Newbie 2113 - Shea it ain't So! | Game Over!

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Game Info

Current Game State

Game Over

Current Deadline

N/A

Game Result

Spoiler: Winners?!?!

Black and BBT, as mafia!

Master Playerlist (bold is confirmed)

Simon.

Empathice

Dionysus

hadriaaan

bewolkt

Black

patchwork

KawaiiKame

skitter30 (SE)

Herta

Furtiveglance(SE)

BlueBloodedToffee (SE)

SE - Indicates a Semi-Experienced player, a player who has played at least four games on mafiascum.net

Spoiler: Alive

Black
skitter30 (SE)
Furtiveglance (SE)
BlueBloodedToffee (SE)

Spoiler: Dead

1. Empathice,
   vanilla townie
   , eliminated day 1.
   
2. Bewolkt,
   vanilla townie
   , Killed Night 1.
   
3. Patchwork,
   vanilla townie
   , eliminated day 2.
   
4. Dionysus,
   cop
   , Killed Night 2.
   
5. Kawaiikame,
   vanilla townie
   , eliminated day 3.

Newbie Setup

Newbie Setup

NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

	A	B	C
Mafia	Mafia Roleblocker	Mafia Rolecop	Mafia Goon
Row 1	Town Cop and Town Doctor	Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2	Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker	Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3	Town Mason and Town Mason	Town Tracker and Town Doctor	Town Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role. The remaining six roles will be filled in by

one mafia goon

and

five vanilla townies

appropriately, to create a

2-mafia

and

7-town

setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.

Mafia Roleblocker

action takes precedence over a

Town Jailkeeper

action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.

Spoiler: Full Setups

Column A & Row 1:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column A & Row 2:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column A & Row 3:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column B & Row 1:

Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column B & Row 2:

Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column B & Row 3:

Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column C & Row 1:

Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6

Column C & Row 2:

Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6

Column C & Row 3:

Mafia Goon x 2, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5

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The Basics

1. Day Phase: 10 days for day 1, 7 days after that. Night Phase 2 days
   
2. 48 hours before prod, 24 hours before replacement.
   
3. Respect everyone's basic humanity. Do not be an asshole to people. Don't be a racist or sexist or really any other -ist. Respect other players displayed pronouns.

General Rules

1. Have fun. This is not an option. Games are only good when players are having fun. If you are not having fun, replace out. There is no shame in this. I have no problem with it. You are not a bad person. Both you and the game will be happier for it.
   
2. The mod is always right. Always. Yes, even then. However, if you think there’s some confusion, and it absolutely can’t wait until the end of the game, send me a PM; do not break my game because you died when you didn’t think you should’ve.
   
3. Days will continue until one of two things happen: a player is killed or a deadline passes.
   
4. Do not be toxic in my game. Being toxic is subjective and I am the final say on what that means. If you have a problem with that, don't play my games. But I will forcibly remove players from the game if I feel like they are playing in a way that is insulting or rude to the other players in the game. You don't get to be an asshole just because you're playing a game on the internet.
   
5. Do NOT quote your role PMs, OR any other form of communication from me unless it is something I have already posted on this thread
   
6. Do not discuss the game outside of the game thread unless your role allows you to, in which case you may only do it during the specified times and in the specified threads.
   
7. You’re required to post regularly. I prod after 48 hours of inactivity and replace after 24 hours of no response to the prod. This can be flexible if you PM me in advance.
   
8. Once you’re dead, you’re no longer subject to the previous rule. As a matter of fact, once you’re dead, stop posting. I will permit one simple “bah” post and nothing more.
   
9. In the event of a modkill, it will end the day.
   
10. If a deadline passes without a player receiving the majority of the votes the day will end with no kill.
    
11. The days in this game the first day will last 10 days and subsequent days will last 7.
    
12. If you don't get your choices in, your default action is NO ACTION.
    
13. Votes must be in the form of the vote tags or bolded using a similar format. Please try to use the vote tags as they're much easier to count. So there's no confusion if it looks like a vote I will count it as a vote.
    
14. Please do not use any cryptography, really small text with the intent to mislead or provable randomness in this game.

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Sample Role PM's (click on the spoiler button to reveal)

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie

Welcome!

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Jailkeeper

Welcome!

You are a

Town Jailkeeper

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Cop

Welcome!

You are a

Town Cop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are

Town

or

Mafia

. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Mason

Welcome!

You are a

Town Mason

.

You know that [player] is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town Tracker

Welcome!

You are a

Town Tracker

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Doctor

Welcome!

You are a

Town Doctor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Friendly Neighbor

Welcome!

You are a

Town Friendly Neighbor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Mafia Goon

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Goon

.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia Rolecop

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Rolecop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.

Vanilla Townies

and

Mafia Goons

will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a role cop in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia Roleblocker

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Roleblocker

.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

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7/9 players confirmed, game is go.

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VoteCount 1.O

Dionysus [ 1 ]

skitter30

Not Voting [ 8 ]

Simon., Dionysus, Hadriaaan, Black, Patchwork, KawaiiKame, Herta, BlueBloodedToffee,

With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline:(expired on 2023-02-28 21:26:00)

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Hey Y'all, please refrain from questions about others sexuality in this game. It's not your business and it's not an appropriate topic for the game

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VoteCount 1.1

Herta (SE) [ 2 ]

black, Dionysus

KawaiiKame [ 1 ]

Patchwork

patchwork [ 1 ]

BluebllodedToffee

Black [ 1 ]

kawaiikame

Dionysus [ 1 ]

Hadriaaan

Not Voting [ 3 ]

Simon., Skitter30, Herta,

With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline:(expired on 2023-02-28 21:26:00)

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Simon. Has not picked up their role pm. They have 48 hours from the time it was sent or they will be replaced

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It's ok, just please refrain from discussing topics that might make other users uncomfortable in the future.

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VoteCount 1.2

Herta (SE) [ 3 ]

black, Dionysus, kawaiikame

BlueBloodedToffee (SE) [ 1 ]

KawaiiKame [ 1 ]

Patchwork

patchwork [ 1 ]

BluebllodedToffee

Dionysus [ 1 ]

Hadriaaan

Not Voting [ 3 ]

Simon., Skitter30, Herta,

With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline:(expired on 2023-02-28 21:26:00)

MS Tips and Tricks!

Enjoying Mafiascum? Want to get more involved in the community? Check out our discord!

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Simon. has not picked up role PM and will be replaced.

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Empathice replaces Simon.

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My name isn't bolded. Can I post yet?

Yes, just a bookkeeping error on my part.

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VoteCount 1.3

skitter30 (SE) [ 2 ]

Black, Empathice

Dionysus [ 2 ]

Hadriaaan, skitter30

KawaiiKame [ 1 ]

Patchwork

patchwork [ 1 ]

BluebloodedToffee

Not Voting [ 3 ]

Dionysus, Herta, kawaiikame

With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline:(expired on 2023-02-28 21:26:00)

Mod Notes

The original version of this vote count was not correct and has been changed from the previous version found here

Spoiler: Original VC

VoteCount 1.3

KawaiiKame [ 3 ]

Patchwork, black, Empathice

Dionysus [ 2 ]

Hadriaaan, skitter30

patchwork [ 1 ]

BluebllodedToffee

Not Voting [ 4 ]

Empathice Herta, kawaiikame, Dionysus

With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline:(expired on 2023-02-28 21:26:00)

MS Tips and Tricks!

If you're ever unsure about what a word means or a concept in game, a great place to check is the MS Wiki! There are tons of helpful articles on all sorts of topics! Here's a link, or go to the quick links at the top left of the page and click 'Mafia Wiki'

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Hmm, my vote counter seems to be having issues. Let me do one by hand and then trouble shoot it.

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VC has been updated.

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If you'd like me to fix a tag please pm me exactly which tag you want fixed and in which post

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VoteCount 1.4

patchwork [ 3 ]

BluebloodedToffee, skitter30, black

Dionysus [ 3 ]

Hadriaaan, Empathice, kawaiikame

KawaiiKame [ 2 ]

Patchwork, Dionysus

Not Voting [ 1 ]

Herta

With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline:(expired on 2023-02-28 21:26:00)

MS Tricks and Tips!

If you're interested in playing other games besides mafia on the site there's lots here to try! Large Social Games is for online reality games like survivor or the genius and Whole Sort of General Mish Mash is for playing online versions of your favorite board games and more!

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VoteCount 1.5

Dionysus [ 3 ]

Hadriaaan, Empathice, kawaiikame

patchwork [ 2 ]

BluebloodedToffee, dionysus

Not Voting [ 4 ]

Herta, Patchwork, skitter30, black

With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline:(expired on 2023-02-28 21:26:00)

MS Tips and Tricks!

There are tons of different games to play when you venture outside the newbie queue. Games are divided by size (micro, mini, large) and by theme (normal mafia or werewolf flavor with standardized roles or any theme and any mechanics of the mods choosing. My favorite kind of game is a mini theme.

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Especially since scum are known to almost always care much more than town about people's reads on them.

I don't think I agree here. Regardless of my alignment I'm calling anyone out that tries to get me lynched for bogus reasons. This is especially the case if I'm town early in D1 and someone is tunneling on me over a mistake I made in RVS. Do you really think asking to explain reads is alignment indicative?

Hey there, just a note: We do not use the L word here because of its ties to a deep culture of racial violence in the US. Please try to use a different phrase like limmed or eliminated.

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Additional mod note: Please take care to check displayed pronouns before referencing someone. There's been a bunch of misgendering in the last few pages and there's no excuse to not get it right.

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VoteCount 1.6

Dionysus [ 2 ]

Empathice, kawaiikame

Herta (SE) [ 1 ]

Hadriaaan

patchwork [ 1 ]

BluebloodedToffee

hadriaaan [ 1 ]

dionysus

Empathice [ 1 ]

Black

Not Voting [ 3 ]

Herta, Patchwork, skitter30

With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline:(expired on 2023-02-28 21:26:00)

MS Tips and Tricks

If you're interested in getting in a game immediately the replacement requests queue is where you can find mods looking for players to jump into ongoing games immediately. If you want to replace into a newbie game you can find replacement requests in the newbie queue.

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VoteCount 1.7

Empathice [ 3 ]

Black, dionysus kawaiikame

Dionysus [ 2 ]

skitter30, empathice

Herta (SE) [ 1 ]

Hadriaaan

patchwork [ 1 ]

BluebloodedToffee

Not Voting [ 2 ]

Herta, Patchwork,

With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline:(expired on 2023-02-28 21:26:00)

No tips or tricks this time. Your mod is exhausted.

Hadriaaan has requested replacement and herta has been prodded.

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Herta has not responded to prod and will be replaced.

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Furtiveglance replaces Herta

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VoteCount 1.8

Dionysus [ 3 ]

skitter30, empathice, furtiveglance

Empathice [ 2 ]

dionysus, kawaiikame

Furtiveglance (SE) [ 1 ]

Hadriaaan

patchwork [ 1 ]

BluebloodedToffee

Not Voting [ 2 ]

Patchwork, black

With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline:(expired on 2023-02-28 21:26:00)

MS Tips and Tricks

Did you know that you can get a referral bonus from Zoraster directly if you tell all your friends about mafiascum? It is paid out in increments of 10 million otter bucks per referral. It's backed by a dubious understanding of the blockchain!

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bewolkt replaced hadriaaan

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VoteCount 1.9

patchwork [ 4 ]

BluebloodedToffee, furtiveglance, dionysus, empathice

Empathice [ 3 ]

kawaiikame, black, patchwork

Furtiveglance (SE) [ 1 ]

Bewolkt

Dionysus [ 1 ]

skitter30

Not Voting [ 0 ]

With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline:(expired on 2023-02-28 21:26:00)

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Sorry for going so many pages without a vc. I'm sort of v/la this weekend.

VoteCount 1.10

patchwork [ 2 ]

BluebloodedToffee, dionysus

Dionysus [ 2 ]

skitter30, furtiveglance

Empathice [ 2 ]

black, patchwork

BlueBloodedToffee (SE) [ 1 ]

bewolkt

Not Voting [ 2 ]

empathice, kawaiikame,

With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline:(expired on 2023-02-28 21:26:00)

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VoteCount 1.11

patchwork [ 4 ]

BluebloodedToffee, dionysus, furtiveglance, empathice

Empathice [ 2 ]

black, bewolkt

BlueBloodedToffee (SE) [ 1 ]

patchwork

Dionysus [ 1 ]

skitter30

Not Voting [ 1 ]

kawaiikame

With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline:(expired on 2023-02-28 21:26:00)

MS tips and tricks

To do a quote the best way is to click the quote button the post which will automatically populate a reply with all the necessary data. This is the " symbol in the top right of each post, then you just reply after the final quoted post tag.



If you are going to do it manually or edit the quote to make it shorter you need to make sure that the number of opening and closing quote tags match. This is very important when doing nested quotes.

Code: Select all

[quote]
[quote]
[quote]
Original Quote
[/quote]
Response to original quote
[/quote]
response to response
[/quote]
your response.

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VoteCount 1.12FINAL

Empathice [ 5 ]

black, bewolkt, kawaiikame, patchwork, BluebloodedToffee

patchwork [ 2 ]

dionysus, furtiveglance,

Dionysus [ 1 ]

skitter30

Not Voting [ 1 ]

empathice

With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline:(expired on 2023-02-28 21:26:00)

Empathice is eliminated.

Spoiler: The role

Spoiler: Made you look.

Spoiler: Did it again

Vanilla Townie

Night actions are due by (expired on 2023-03-01 16:07:00)

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You wake up to find that only 7 of you remain.

Bewolkt has been brutally slain during the night.

Spoiler: The role:

Vanilla Townie

VoteCount 2.0

Not Voting [ 7 ]

Dionysus, Black, Patchwork, KawaiiKame, Skitter30, Furtiveglance, BlueBloodedToffee

With 7 alive it takes 4 votes to be executed.

"

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2023-03-08 16:07:00)

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VoteCount 2.1FINAL

Patchwork [ 4 ]

Skitter30, furtiveglance, Bluebloodedtoffee, kawaiikame

KawaiiKame [ 2 ]

Dionysus, patchwork

Not Voting [ 1 ]

Black

With 7 alive it takes 4 votes to be executed.

"

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2023-03-08 16:07:00)

Patchwork has been eliminated. They were

Spoiler: Role REVEAL!!!!!!!

Vanilla Townie

Night deadline is (expired on 2023-03-03 17:23:00)

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You wake up to find one festering rotting corpse. Just kidding, it takes way longer than that for a corpse to fester and rot.

You find the squeaky clean and fresh, even delicious corpse of Dionysus.

Spoiler: The role

Cop

It is now day 3. There are 5 alive so 3 votes will send em to the showers.

VoteCount 3.0

Not Voting [ 5 ]

Black, Kawaiikame, Skitter30, Furtiveglance, Bluebloodedtoffee

With 5 alive it takes 3 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2023-03-10 17:26:00)

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VoteCount 3.1 FINAL

KawaiiKame [ 3 ]

furtiveglance, bbt, black

Not Voting [ 2 ]

Kawaiikame, Skitter30,

With 5 alive it takes 3 votes to be executed.

"

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2023-03-10 17:26:00)

Kawaiikame was eliminated.

Spoiler: The role:

Vanilla Townie

A win condition has been achieved.

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CONGRATS TO BLACK AND BLUEBLOODEDTOFEE!

MAFIA WIN

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Scum PT
Dead Thread

Night actions:
N1: Dionysus investigates patchwork, BBT kills Bewolkt
N2: Dionysus investigates kawaiikame, BBT kills Dionysus.

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furtive, I'm not trying to be rude here, but I think it was an incredibly obvious cop clear to the point that scum immediately picked up on it and I think not wanting to out yourself explicitly is pretty reasonable. I feel very strongly this one is on you.

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Yeah a couple things:
1) You were the mod, so you obviously never considered that Dio could have had a guilty on Kawaii.
2) The Mafia knew Kawaii was town so they were left with the only other realistic option, it makes sense that they picked up on it.

If you look at Dionysus' D2, he's clearly pushing for a Kawaii elimination as well as defending patchwork, so both were possible from my POV.

I'm a mod but I've also been playing mafia for almost two decades. That was an inno on patch. Your reading of it is absurd.

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And even if that was your reading of it: That it was a guilty on kawaii, you voting patch instead of the person who you fyopv has a guilty on them, is extremely bad.

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Yeah a couple things:
1) You were the mod, so you obviously never considered that Dio could have had a guilty on Kawaii.
2) The Mafia knew Kawaii was town so they were left with the only other realistic option, it makes sense that they picked up on it.

If you look at Dionysus' D2, he's clearly pushing for a Kawaii elimination as well as defending patchwork, so both were possible from my POV.

I'm a mod but I've also been playing mafia for almost two decades. That was an inno on patch. Your reading of it is absurd.

If you had to choose 1 option, which did Dionysus seem more certain of? A) patchwork is town, B) Kawaii is scum.

Easily the "the person I was pushing as scum all the entire rest of this game" who they then say this about

It sounds like you aren't sure still on patchwork...my vote stays. Call me a car. (Because I'm parked).

I am quite confident. But this is mafia until the flip happens we can never be certain

I don't see any reading of that as a guilty on someone else. Patchworks alignment is not dependent on kawaii's in any way. There is no reason that kawaii being guiltied precludes patch scum.

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You saw what you wanted to see, which I think is a theme on how you played this entire game.

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I do think in that situation it's probably just best for the cop to just claim, but that's partially because I think it was so obvious as a pseudo claim anyway.

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It's not.

Only innocent on patch causes an incredibly strong town read on patch. Guilty on kawaii does not cause that. You were purposefully ignoring information because you didn't want to be wrong on patch.

And again, I reiterate: In both worlds voting patch is wrong. If you think theres a guilty on kawaii why are you voting patch? If there's an innocent on patch why are you voting patch? Even if I buy your worldview that it could be a guilty on kawaii the play doesn't make much sense.

(kawaii why are you SO bad at quotes lmao)

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What might be mod info is I am incredibly surprised by how town read black was this game.

They were present and reasonable but if you read the ISO they didn't really...Do...anything?

There really weren't any strong convictions or any pushes of note, main thread contributions were just admonishing town for rushing things which is something mafia love to do.

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Furtive I don't know how to say when a player who was hard scum reading someone then turns around and is like "I thought about it more and I now hard town read them" thats a cop claim. It just is. Shrug.

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So? People do new pushes all the time without having guilties. They don't usually flip their hard scum read to town after the counter wagon flips town.

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Yeah scum just sat back and let town eat themselves.

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I think there's a natural sense and tone of being at ease to your posts which is going to lead to you getting town read a lot.

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Yep. I agree.

But you're ignoring the part where he wouldn't suddenly be hard town reading patch.

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My argument isn't that in a vacuum your read that a guilty on kawaii could have existed was bad, my argument was that you were ignoring significant information to only focus on the push because it didn't fit with your world view, and in that context the read is bad.

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I'm going to drop it though, if you don't want to take my feedback that's up to you.

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I think there's a natural sense and tone of being at ease to your posts which is going to lead to you getting town read a lot.

I actually really appreciate this insight tbh

The follow up is as you play against more experienced players they're going to pick up on the underlying things you're advancing rather than just that you sound superficially townie, so if I were to come up with one thing you could work on improving from this game it would be trying to have more concrete scum and town reads and take more stances.

Actively be looking for things to scum read and push, it's easiest if you can find things you think you would naturally scum read as town.

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It seemed to be entirely a meta read so it's hard for me to comment on.