Newbie 1710 - Kittens (Post-Game)

[Nahdia]

sup nerds

VOTE: Desmond_13

[Nahdia]

Reasons.

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I disagree, Percifrax. Forming early wagons is usually better than novel votes because it makes for better reactions.

That said, I didn't want to vote Thor. And my vote on Desmond was not entirely random.

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Eh, you can't expect everyone to have the same thought process, even if they may be the same alignment. Also, I probably woulda unvoted if Desmond was suddenly put at L-1 >_>

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UNVOTE:
-_-'

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Desmond, for the record, claiming is a very very last resort thing in most cases.

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Wow lots of words sorry I fell a bit behind in this.

Likin' copper. Good dude. Good posts.

Likin' Charloux. The sass in 48 sooths my soul. Minor townleans here, nothin' big.

Perci and Thor I'm meh on. Titus I guess I'm also meh on but slightly less meh than Perci and Thor.

VOTE: Algea

[Nahdia]

ahhhh epicmafia...

if this is an epicmafia tell; keep in mind that epicmafia's voting system is wildly different than mafiascum's. the same voting tells won't necessarily work.

[Nahdia]

I kinda doubt Titus is scum here but I don't really know her scum meta. This play just feels too forward to be d1 scum.

[Nahdia]

sorry about my low activity this game. I'm around, if you ever want any specific answers/opinions from me feel free to ask.

rn I still like my vote. I'm townreading copper and to a lesser extent Perci and Desmond. Thor I'm not sure on, i had some bad vibes on him while the game was progressing and looking back i sort of think his reaction to Perci sorta had a "Yes I'm scum but your reason for pushing me is incorrect" feeling.

titus i lean town on i guess. even if she is usually aggro as scum, i buy her push on thor. even if i don't really agree with all the points she's making.

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i sort of think his reaction to Perci sorta had a "Yes I'm scum but your reason for pushing me is incorrect" feeling.

Perci said he was pushing me for being a second vote while admitting that he didn't think scum were more likely to be the second vote.
You felt I was doing a caught for the wrong reasons on that one?

yup that sure is what i just said

i buy her push on thor. even if i don't really agree with all the points she's making.

Which of her points do you agree with?

Agree that you seemed overly defensive early. Disagree that your heavy mechpost is much of an alignment tell in this case since you are kinda the IC here...

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yup that sure is what i just said

Going off the "defensive" comment later (which is actually something I don't think Titus has said at all) can you describe how I seemed defensive? Like, I actually feel that if I had to describe Perc and myself I would describe myself as the aggressor and him as the defensive one, so can you describe the defensiveness that suggests scum caught for the wrong reasons as you see it?

I know you're not gonna like this but it's just my gut feeling from reading the thread. Could I nitpick to an incredible extent and find tiny little details which are making me feel that way? Probably, but I'm not gonna. Too much reasoning for something you could easily just brush off and say "contrived" to. And hell, maybe it would be contrived if I'm just trying to make a reason for the sake of a reason. Sorry, friend.

What do you think about Titus' attack on me for "fishing for reads" from people? Do you find that to make sense(as Titus claims) or to be a blatant scum commentary (as I claim)?

I think it's Titus doing her normal thing of reaching a bit far when she's making cases in her tunnels. I don't think that's necessarily scummy coming from her.

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It's Titus, dude.

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@Nahdia
Don't you think that town_Titus's reaction to unkown_Charl. telling her to ease off the pressure on Thor would be to tell him to GTFO? Instead not a peep; then as soon as Root enters the game we get the gem I quoted above.

i uhh...

*sigh* yes i do see your point im just being lazy about this game, sorry.

VOTE: Root

i'd prefer this to titus. really didnt dig their weird voting algae test. felt iffy/contrived to me.

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I wish no one gets lynched so we can learn more clues to identify who's town and who is scum.

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i think i voted them jjust outta poe to begin with and wanting to pressure the slot but that line pinged me a bit i guess and ive been kinda too lazy to reevaluate

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i'm here

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@Nahdia - considering I showed that Titus' entire case on me is easily disproven by a game Titus just had with townThor and Titus' counter to it is 'I don't do the meta' when...y'know, it's kinda silly to press a scum case on something you know the town player does, and that is explicitly not the way people game their meta, why are you so okay with Titus (ie - why are you not voting her)?

Because I've seen Titus be wrong before as town?

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OK clearly I need to look all the stuff over I'm sorry I've been lazy about this. I have to run some errands and then work but I promise I'll do better than a 1 line answer before the end of the day.

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I'd really rather just vote Root and pray one of you gets nightkilled.

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like, i'm lookign all of this over, and it looks like a bunch of massive walls of dense garbage that don't say shit. you're both projecting like crazy onto each other. "you should do this." "you should know i am like" blah blah blah i've spouted all that crap as scum, none of it is convincing to me either way.

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if im gonna vote either of u i need a succinct case that isn't you screaming at the top of your lungs what this person should or shouldn't know or do or some kinda crazed meta bullcrap stretched till it's 2 freakin' dimensional blah blah blah

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having trouble with learning how to scum.

hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahah no.

like, i'm lookign all of this over, and it looks like a bunch of massive walls of dense garbage that don't say Smurf. you're both projecting like crazy onto each other. "you should do this." "you should know i am like" blah blah blah i've spouted all that Smurf as scum, none of it is convincing to me either way.

I linked you to a very concise case on Titus that showed what Titus was aware of and compared it to this case - how is that dense or a stretch?

clearly we have very different definitions of concise...

[Nahdia]

House I'm no stranger to playing scum. If you wanna dive, go ahead:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=65645
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=65645

Marathon Games
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=65530
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=65551
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=65553
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=65532

Note that I've never lost or even been lynched ^_~

I'm a reasonable scumread to have here I guess since I've been pretty low-content. copper was p much 100% spot on wrt my "RVS" vote btw and I townleaned him a bit at the time for picking up on/defending that reasoning. Still thinking that was a good read. House if you have any specific interactions you want to see from me go ahead and ask. The Titus/Thor thing gives me a headache. Honestly I was kinda just resistant to voting Titus purely bc I like her and wouldn't want to lynch her d1 but fine I'll throw that aside since this a 9p game. I'm still not really convinced on any case on her. Thor seems to be projecting a lot of meta knowledge/"you should do/know this" kinda thing and I lean heavily on using that sort of thing as scum so I'm not buying it for now. Thor I feel like has a playstyle that will always always ping me (I've played a few games with him in them so far) so it's hard for me to read him. our styles just mismatch like crazy.

Titus knows I use mechanics as town.
I have provided a quote that shows this.
She claims I don't.
Ergo - she is scum.

Does that help?

sorry I'm not using my words well. I mean, I did read the post, and some of the surrounding posts, but the case relied on meta knowledge from another game which I'm not really inclined to go read and like... idk. It's circumstantial from a game I just wasn't a part of. For all I know you could be twisting it fuckin' silly, man.

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like, maybe Titus is scum dude, but I really don't think this "lie" is the smoking gun you claim it to be. I've caught townies in "lies" before and pushed the fuck of them out of it when, surprise surprise, I was scum. Open 629 has an example of this when Klingoncelt claimed to metaread me d1 and compared my townplay to my scumplay and said I was scum. I pointed out at the time the only flips I have on site are scum marathon games so she couldn't possibly know my townplay. She was town though and she was right, she just made her point poorly and eventually died for it.

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my base logic is "the basis of your case is invalid in my eyes."

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and uh, the one time I saw you as town for a bit it was because of the slot you replaced into and you were actually scum :T

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my base logic is "the basis of your case is invalid in my eyes."

Why is it invalid?

I've explained this a few times. I think you're projecting way too much knowledge onto her you think she ought to have. You say it's a lie, but I've gotten townies lynched before by saying they lied when really we were both just bending our versions of events to fit our stories. I don't consider that highly alignment indicative; it's part of the goddamn human condition.

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sage.

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wait what i'm looking and i legit don't see any claim

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lol what.

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wait what i'm looking and i legit don't see any claim

Not following the game is scummy.

I'm staring over Titus' ISO. I've been following. I don't see a claim. Help me out here, friend.

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also jesus christ no it's not what kind of low level garbage is that.

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the only one of those posts that was a claim was 330 and it was in the middle of a read wall. so sorry for not seeing it

lmao yes i'm a team with thor you got me.

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it's fucking incredible how like, some times people defend themselves when others say they're scum and it's a stupid reason. the audacity. fucking insane.

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all townies who point out that the people scumreading them are doing so for fucking stupid reasons shoudl be put to death. how dare they point out when other people are being completely idiotic. for shame, me. for friggin' shame.

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"not noticing titus claimed in the middle of a thick wall of text is basically a scumclaim!!!!!"

-House

sage as fuck

[Nahdia]

im going to keep spamming because hopefully it'll give you a nice point of reference for how annoying and stupid your scumread is. it's like my spamming. that's how annoying and stupid it is. except a lot more stupid because i am very smart

[Nahdia]

ive got the midas touch except instead of gold, everything i touch is super duper intelligent.

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that's what they call me. Nahdia "Over the top" Paradox. that's me.

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it's not my middle name because that would be stupid but it is a nickname which i can put in quotes between my first name and my last name

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forgive me, for i have skimmed.

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like, i actually didn't really care what Titus' read on herself was. and that's what the context & sentence leading up to the claim suggested it was. soooooooooooooooooooo i didn't read it lol

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do u want me to claim too, House?

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rememberh ow u caught titus and then u decided she was conftown later? ready for round 2?

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he clearly missed the super hidden claim as well.

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ur p bad at this huh

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i mean ok i take some of the blame because i have been p low effort this game and havent been obvtowning it up so im sorry for that. but ur "tells" r pure bad man.

he clearly missed the super hidden claim as well.

How lame is that excuse?

1) Until I came along, all her walls were in response to his walls. He read it.

2) It was a READS wall, and any decent IC reads... reads, in order to critique the player making them, regardless of alignment.

ok well im not gonna defend thor to a crazy extent im just saying it was p easy to miss.

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like. ur doing that thign where u see a situation and u draw in ur head one explanation for a sea of billions of possible explanations for the event. and the one u drew ends in them being scum and now ur acting like that's the only possibility and ignoring every other potential explanation.

that's what ur doing. that's u. it's bad. u should stop doin' that thing.

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I see what you were trying to do by pushing your role onto me.

I'm going to reread the game now from your perspective. If it checks out, I'm willing to assume Titus town.

I can tell you now though that I'm not willing to dismiss copper being scum nearly as easy as you. I've seen what he's capable of as scum first hand. Dude is scary good.

Anyone that supposedly missed Titus' claim should have caught that in my post and knew they missed something important, so I'm not buying your flailing.

FORGIVE ME LORD FOR I HAVE SKIMMED

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TAKE ME NOW. SMITE ME. FOR I SKIMMED THE GAME AND THEN SAW SOMEONE MENTION A CLAIM AND LOOKED BACK FOR IT AND IT WAS IN THE MIDLE OF A WALL OF READS SO I ASKED FOR HELP FINDING IT AND APPARENTLY THAT'S PUNISHABLE BY DEATH. MY B, LORD.

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see this is how ridiculous u sound man. lol.

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yeah. i saw that. which is why i looked back and tried to find the claim. and when i didn't see it, i asked u for help.

LOL

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do u even listen to urself? open ur mind, man. consider the SEA of posssiiiibbiiilliitiiieeesss

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im not answering that because im honestly tired of this incredibly technical conversation that i promise you isn't going to do anyone any good.

[Nahdia]

ive made my points. sorry if u take objection to the semantics.

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im voting scum.

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my stance is valid because this is a game and im interested in having fun and it's less fun when u want to have massive wall of text conversations tbh. i think ur way of scumreading titus is invalid because she's not a robot. do u want me to say that 9 more times for an even 10?

i think ur way of scumreading titus is invalid because she's not a robot. i think ur way of scumreading titus is invalid because she's not a robot. i think ur way of scumreading titus is invalid because she's not a robot. i think ur way of scumreading titus is invalid because she's not a robot. i think ur way of scumreading titus is invalid because she's not a robot. i think ur way of scumreading titus is invalid because she's not a robot. i think ur way of scumreading titus is invalid because she's not a robot. i think ur way of scumreading titus is invalid because she's not a robot. i think ur way of scumreading titus is invalid because she's not a robot.

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I would also accept links to you in other games, as town, making up things while claiming to have read things over - that would also alleviate my current concerns.

nah.

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i picked up on the fact there was a claim i just didn't see what the claim was that's why i asked.

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my stance is valid because this is a game and im interested in having fun and it's less fun when u want to have massive wall of text conversations tbh. i think ur way of scumreading titus is invalid because she's not a robot. do u want me to say that 9 more times for an even 10?

Yes, except you accused me of making up what I believed Titus knew.
But Titus claimed that she did know that she knew what I said she knew.
So how can you then still dislike the case?
It doesn't make sense.

nah you're misunderstanding my point. im not accusing u of making up what titus knows, i'm telling u ppl aren't robots.

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because root is scum.

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the amount of bad noise in this game is actually fucking ludicrous. too much pushing on people t hat aren't getting lynched.

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the amount of bad noise in this game is actually fucking ludicrous. too much pushing on people t hat aren't getting lynched.

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im sorry if im not making myself clear but ur honestly being really really stubborn about this incredible logical leap u've made on titus.

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how about we stop talking abotu that though. bc we're not lynching titus today. and we're not lynching me today. so can we PLEASE stop making so much unnecessary noise and start talking about slots that might actually be scum?

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hey thor if House's push on u seems familiar it's because he's using the exact same logic you've been using in your push on Titus. are u now confscum?

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well im town this game so

but i've also never been lynched as town. except once being blitzed in lylo.

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he's claiming he didn't miss the claim so i'm not sure what u point is lol.

who isn't reading now? it's u.

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im bulletproof.

can u stop making noise about slots that aren't getting lynched now? pls?

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im claiming because honestly this town needs to get their heads out of their asses and stop making an insane amount of rabble about shit that's not happening.

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this is like the densest game ive ever been in and ive played larges with hundreds of pages. this is cray.

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right because im totally so close to being lynched. that's clearly why i claimed, because im afraid of being lynched.

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lmao

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practice what u preach and stop voting the conformable PR claim, House.

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i don't think the blatant hypocrisy makes u scum but it is silly.

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nah, roleblocker takes priority.

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Scum is likely to leave Titus alive because she can just be blocked.

This assumes I'm town. If I'm scum, we'll kill her, because we have no blocker.

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yes, but if there's a blocker, I'm town.

[Nahdia]

thor if u still think titus may be scum despite her claim how come u swung to me and then Algae? maybe i missed somthing but i thought you were scumreading Root on the basis that she's partners with Titus.

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that was awhile ago tho so it's totally possible i missed something if so mb.

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yes, but if there's a blocker, I'm town.

Precisely, so jailing you clears you either way.

If there's no kill, you swing. If there's a kill, you're confto wn.

but the only way im scum is if there's a blocker... and if there's a blocker, the jailer is negated...

Happy Birthday Nahdia.

Thanks! <3

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wait i mean

nevermind i got that backwards.

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right bc i was so desperate when under pressure of a grand total of... 1 person.

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right bc i was so desperate when under pressure of a grand total of... 1 person.

You flailed retardulously because I got you dead to rights out of the blue.

nope, I was laughing at you bc of how stupid ur reasoning was.

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If he flips blocker I'm literally confirmed town.

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If he flips blocker I'm literally confirmed town.

No you're not.

If he's blocker, you're uncountered PR claim.

Not the same at all.

If I'm going to be CC'd with my partner dead d2 it's autowin for town anyway.

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If we lynch goon you jail me.
You should say publicly who you're going to jail we lynch roleblocker. And it shouldn't be me.
If we lynch town just jail whoever you want. You're dead anyway.

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lmao nope.

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anyway, getting out of boring setup speculaton and back to scumhunting

I'm fine lynching Thor, though I'd prefer Root. It'd be nice to have any content from the Ness slot since it's entirely unreadable atm.

p-edit im voting Root.

[Nahdia]

eh, ok. deal.

VOTE: Thor

@mod do u have any idea when the Ness slot is returning? an 11 day VLA is... more than a bit ridiculous.

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i defer to my PR sister titus.

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titus who will u jail if we lynch RB today?

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oh that was copper my bad

[Nahdia]

if you meant bulletproof, yes of course it's a plausible fake claim. in my newbie game we were in row one and my partner (hi drixx!) fakeclaimed bulletproof. it's about context though. and copper is reading the context of my claim as town. i had a single vote on me at the time of the claim; L-4. might i have used a tactic like early claiming as scum to win townpoints? sure i would. but he's reading it as genuine and I don't think he's wrong to. it seems like you're just telling him "don't trust your thoughts because you should be paranoid and this player and assume they're scum". it's something of a stretch to call him scum for townreading me there, I think.

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V/LA until Monday the 6th

Should still be able to post a little bit.

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hi im still not a big fan of MURDERCAT's slot

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wew lads

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lots of weird votes itt

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idk i havent really analyzed i jsut feel like there's a lot of votes hopping around and scum really really really doesn't want their roleblocker lynched

[Nahdia]

mizzy maybe just start skimming lol

[Nahdia]

we should lynch something.

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lol

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I'm still here.... really sorry about my level of participation this game.

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If I'm understanding right we basically just have 12 hours now and Performer is at L-1 right?

VOTE: Performer

Hopefully a flip breathes some life into this game.

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True. I have a feeling scum could have easily steered an apathy lynch away from either of them and likely did but we'll see.

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bwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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ha

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oh man oh man oh man hi cerb

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man this sure is a great NEWBIE GAME huh guys?

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gut had me thinkin it was town but honestly i barely skimmed the day and saw he self-hammered and just checked out mentally

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i think zyf is town.

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dont like either of these wagons

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VOTE: MURDERCAT

[Nahdia]

why this

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oh.

lol.

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hEY GUYS IM CONFTOWN!!!!

[Nahdia]

why this

Dudette you really suck at this game lately...

lately???????

[Nahdia]

i believe u.

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tbf i am extremely uninvested in this game but i consider my towngame to be very weak anyway so

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cerb is town, house is town, copper is town, im town.

[Nahdia]

ima say thor tbh.

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between thor and murdercat i could see either tho so im just shot in the dark-ing.

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maybe i just want to sheep titus, u kno?

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VOTE: Zyf

Zyf > House > Thor right now.

We got pushed off of mizzy yesterday by someone.

This put the focus back on Zyf, not his buddy Nahdia.

well put, i havent really read for associations yet.

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im still kinda riding on my desmond townread tbh otherwise i'd think about house. idk.

[Nahdia]

Vote: Cerberus

Doubtful.

[Nahdia]

idk i remember saying with AUTHORITY that ur town at one point and im just gonna go with that.

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im not even sure who u replaced tbh.

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i dont really know that thor has a particular distaste for bussing? i mean, i've played with him as scum a couple times and he didn't buss but... maybe i missed some big "i never buss" speech???????????

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i kinda think thor is maybe gonna flip town based on the bussing thing.. idk.

[Nahdia]

prodge will get to this

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what i ahve to hammer?

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i mean idk. it's PROBABLY one of them? are ppl really sure House is town?

[Nahdia]

leaning towards lynching thor.

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i mean. i use self-meta all the time when im scum.

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@Nahdia - here's the thing, does your self-meta-ing include lies when scum?
Can those lies be verified?
That is your meta.

Often times yes.

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And I mean yeah, it's MY meta, but the point is that I know for a fact people can lie about themselves convincingly.

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I very rarely buss.

When I do buss, I'm sure to point out that I don't buss and that means I'm town.

That's all I'm sayin'

I guess I can do Cerb. What's the VC at.

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i think at this point it's more a question of what IS town about it, not the inverse.

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i just dont know man

maybe i should replace out. im super detached from this game. im sorry.

[Nahdia]

you deserve someone better but idk i mean i dont wanna force drixx to find a replace and then have some1 read everything up to this point.

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So you think it has to be Thor, Cerb?

[Nahdia]

So like.

If I lynch you today and then promise to lynch Thor tomorrow if you flip town, you're cool with that?

[Nahdia]

aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA the AtE :[

[Nahdia]

Town can AtE too >_> it's AtE either way.

[Nahdia]

I'm having trouble believing Thor never ever ever ever busses ever. That's dumb. That's just bad play.

[Nahdia]

Like, you're essentially telling me that if we do ever play together again and you flip scum, I can look through your votes and anyone you ever voted is 100% clear town.

Dumb.

[Nahdia]

i have no idea waht the VC or deadline even looks like :T

[Nahdia]

VOTE: Cerberus v666

i just want this to be done with. sorry, i dont really see who else it can be.

[Nahdia]

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uuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhggggggggggggggggggg

[Nahdia]

uhg.

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ive read the game, fucker, i just dont know.

[Nahdia]

I actually consider the Nahdia shot either bad play or suggestive of you being scum.

really really want to believe this but eugh.

[Nahdia]

I think I was scumreading Root so if I'm doing the whole "just sheep my early reads" thing I guess I'm lynching MURDERCAT?

i'll do some rereading i suppose.

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i mean

sigh.

you guys both say MURDERCAT should have been killed under certain circumstances but clearly not since he's now under the hammer.

ehh.

[Nahdia]

i suppose that's a possibility.

i mean, one of you voting MC is town. i can just sheep them and then blame them if we lose?

no no, i'll think this through. i looked a bit at the vote counts but there aren't many :\

copper said MURDERCAT isn't scum but....hrrrgggg...

[Nahdia]

the only thing keeping me from hammering MURDERCAT rn is Copper's read on MURDER.

[Nahdia]

yes

[Nahdia]

the only thing keeping me from hammering MURDERCAT rn is Copper's read on MURDER.

What about Copper's read on Murder is speaking to you?

The fact that Copper said they're not partners (and made a convincing point as to why) and then died?

I mean, yes, MURDER might have killed Copper so he could up the apparent validity of that post. but isn't it more likely MURDER would just... leave copper alive?

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i mean

"evidence" doesn't exist in mafia. there's just arguments. i haven't seen a convincing argument for why i should be considering House scum yet.

[Nahdia]

Why leave Copper alive though? He was a universal townread who was never getting lynched - you have to shoot that guy eventually.
First kill was a PR, second kill was the top universal town read who had just helped lead a lynch on scum - reads very generic as kill choices to me.

Who would have been a better scum kill at that point?
House, if town, makes some sense.
Murder, if town makes some sense.
Neither makes as much sense as Copper.

I was a strong suspect of House.
You were a non-entity.
Cerb was a non-entity.

Copper was wearing a 'scum needs ta kill mah face!' t-shirt.

::shrug::

I'll look back at his case, I don't recall being impressed by it, but if it sells you we should examine it.

good point.

[Nahdia]

VOTE: Mizzy

Prefer this anyway.

Hurm...

Unvote: Murdercat

@Nahdia - look at Day 1, near Vote COunt 6 onwards.
*That* feels a little awkward as a bus.

he hops right off it like 5 posts later?

[Nahdia]

probably not shooting for a NL; he goes on the largest wagon just as he agreed he would.

[Nahdia]

eh. lots of stuff pointing me towards MURDERCAT and even if the copper read does still hold a tiny bit of weight for me, there are equal or better reasons to consider the other slots town.

probably gonna hammer murder at this point but i'll give him a chance to respond? i still need to see a good case on house and i haven't yet.

[Nahdia]

Zyf iso still feels more like a Murder buddy than a House buddy to me.

how do u figure

[Nahdia]

you're making me hella paranoid thor

[Nahdia]

how about i just vote MURDERCAT and if you're scum, you hammer and we finish this

[Nahdia]

probably not shooting for a NL; he goes on the largest wagon just as he agreed he would.

Yeah, he did, but why the dance in the first place?

Do you think Zyf looked like he was bussing House?
He did a pretty hard House push on arrival.

He was dancing between his preferred vote and what was actually going to go through. Makes sense to me but NAI.

Eh... I'm not sure Zyf would come out of the gate swinging with a buss unless House instructed him to do so.

[Nahdia]

Is this a gut read, or do you have Zyf experience that is steering that thought?

He's new.

[Nahdia]

Yes and like i already said i didn't find a convincing goddamn case.

[Nahdia]

just a bunch of petty mudslinginyg

[Nahdia]

The only time I townread you was copper saying you were town? Don't overstate your position, friend.

[Nahdia]

Sure.

[Nahdia]

Shame. I believe House just made an innocent mistake and it sucked that it resulted in this. I offered to replace out as soon as I realized what was going on but I don't really blame Drixx for just calling it a game here.

I'm assuming MURDERCAT was scum? I'd like to say I was leaning towards him but his last post DID certainly give me pause. I really can't say which way I woulda gone. MURDERCAT's play was reminding me a lot of my own when he lynched me when I was SK in a mini we recently played together. Very similar situation actually. Everyone played well. Good game guys. I'm sorry I was kind of disconnected from here at times; I've been struggling with finding what's my ideal load of games I can take on at one time. Appreciate everyone's patience with me as well as the effort you all put in.