Newbie 1094: Let us simulate. Game over. Scum win.

[Nexus]

You've all agreed to take part in a life-simulation. As in, you've decided to try and escape your current mundane lives by pretending to be living elsewhere. A couple of days into the simulation, and things are going wrong. You all awoke and found the guide in charge of the simulation brutally murdered. Not only that, but you also found a note that said “We will take over the simulation. Anyone who opposes us will die.”

Accusations begin to fly, and you decide that the best way to deal with things is to take votes and string up the person whom the majority wants to get rid off. After all, it's only a simulation, isn't it?

Moderator: Nexus.
Backup: Haylen

Player List:

(Bolded means confirmed)

jmurph3 (SE)

Debonair Danny DiPietro (IC)

*prodded


The IC(s) are here to help you learn to play the game. Their play is governed by the wiki article Being a Good IC.

Dead Players:

Quilford

- Vanilla Townie - Lynched Day 1

Supreme Overlord

- Town Cop - Murdered Night 1

Trendall (SE)

bv310**

- Vanilla Townie - Lynched Day 2

Cobblerfone

- Vanilla Townie - Murdered Night 2

izakthegoomba

- Vanilla Townie - Lynched Day 3

Heliman

- Vanilla Townie - Endgamed Day 3

Spadille

- Vanilla Townie - Endgamed Day 3

Deadline/Lynch threshold:

[Nexus]

The Rules:

Rule 0. Don't be a jerk. Please adhere to the site rules, and especially don't get personal. Personal attacks may lead to ejection (possibly immediate) from the game. Be nice. Play to win. It's only a game.

General:

- Please adhere to the site rules.
- Do not discuss this game of mafia outside of this thread unless your role PM allows you to do so.
- Day phases will last exactly 3 weeks.
- Night Phases will last 72 hours.
- During night phase, no talking may be done in the thread at all.
- Do not quote PM's from the mod at all (real or fabricated). Paraphrasing is acceptable.
- If you have any questions about your role, or the game, feel free to PM the mod.

Voting/PlayerActions:

- All votes must be in bold format:

vote: Nexus

for example.
- Try to unvote before voting. Unvotes must also be in bold.
- Any and all votes will be counted, if you wish to waste a day phase voting for someone not in the game,that's fine by me.
- You may vote

No Lynch.

- Voting tricks are not acceptable. If you misspell someone's name intentionally, but I get the gist of it, the vote will count.
- A lynch will occur once a majority decision is reached. If no majority is reached by deadline, then no lynch shall occur.
- Following a lynch, it is twilight. You may continue to post until I lock the thread and declare it night.
- If you are killed, one Bah! type post is permitted. No game related information must be relayed during them, however.
- If you have a Night Action, you may not submit an action during Night 0 (aka confirmation stage). Each subsequent night, you may submit an action to me via PM.

Activity:

- You are expected to post at least once every 48 hours. If you haven't posted for 48 hours, I shall prod you. If you do not respond to the prod within 48 hours (either in thread if it's Day, or via PM during the Night) then I will replace you.
- Similarly, if you require more than three prods, I will force-replace you.

Mechanics:

- Blue is my colour. Please don't use it.
- Do not edit your posts at all.
- No impossible/hard to read text, or cryptography.
- The Mod may make mistakes - please point out any mistakes gently. Mistakes will be corrected where possible, but sometimes mistakes are made that cannot be reversed. These will stand as final to be commiserated over after the game.
- Do not use spoiler tags. You have no need to do so. Doing so will invite a warning.
- If you need to get the mod's attention, either PM me, or bold the text you wish to draw to my attention.
- I reserve the right to alter/remove/add any rules as I see fit. You will, of course, be notified if that happens, however.

[Nexus]

Possible Role P Ms:

The F11 set up is currently used in Newbie Games. To prevent the development of game-breaking strategies, these Newbie Games are Semi-Open, wherein the actual game setup is randomly chosen from one of four possible setups as detailed below:
1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Sane Cop, 1 Sane Doctor, 5 Townies
1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 7 Townies
2 Mafia Goons, 1 Sane Cop, 6 Townies
2 Mafia Goons, 1 Sane Doctor, 6 Townies
If either of the first two setups are in play, and the situation occurs where the Goon is lynched first, the Roleblocker will still be able to submit both night kills and roleblocks (roleblocking is a function of the Roleblocker; night kills are a function of the scum team as a whole).

These are the role PMs that may have been sent out to players:

Player Name, you are a Mafia Roleblocker, your partner is Player name, who is a mafia goon, and you may talk to them during confirmation and at night in here: Link

Abilities:
Roleblock-Once per night, you may send me the name of a player that you wish to roleblock.

Your team mate must send in the kill, however, if you are the only member of your team left, then you may kill and roleblock in the same PM.

You win when you and your team mates control town, or nothing can prevent the same.

The game thread is here link

Please reply to this message with your rolename in order to confirm you are playing.

Player Name, you are a Mafia Goon, your team mate is Player name and he is a mafia goon/roleblocker and you may talk to them during confirmation and at night in here: Link

Ability:

Kill - Once per night you may PM me the name of a player who you will attempt to kill with your gun.

If you are both goons, decide who sends the kill in. If you are the only goon, you must send the kill in. You should decide between the two of you who should die.

You win when you and your team mates control town, or nothing can prevent the same.

The game thread is here Link

Please reply to this message with your rolename in order to confirm you are playing.

Player Name, you are the Town Doctor. You have the ability to protect one of your town from death each night.

Ability:

Protect - Each night while you are alive, you can PM me the name of one person who you can protect from a night-kill. The person you target will not be killed that night, provided you are not roleblocked if the mafia have a roleblocker. You may not protect yourself

You win when all threats to the town are removed.

The game thread is here Link

Please reply to this message with your rolename in order to confirm you are playing.

Player Name, you are the Town Cop. You have the ability to investigate one of your town each night.

Ability:

Investigate - Each night while you are alive, you can PM me the name of one person who you wish to investigate. You will then find out whether they are guilty or innocent in a return PM, unless there is a mafia roleblocker and you are roleblocked, in which case you will get "No result" All results are 100% reliable.

You win when all threats to the town are removed.

The game thread is here Link

Please reply to this message with your rolename in order to confirm you are playing.

Player Name, you are a Vanilla Townie, you have no abilities.

Abilities:
None

You do however have your vote, use it wisely.

You win when all threats to the town are removed.

The game thread is here Link

Please reply to this message with your rolename in order to confirm you are playing.

[Nexus]

Role PMs are going out now. The game will start when I receive 7/9 confirmations.

Edit: All role PMs are out. Game will start as soon as I've got 7 confirmations.

[Nexus]

7/9 people have confirmed! Day 1 begins!

Day 1 will end on the 8th May 2011, at 17.00.

With 9 people alive, it takes 5 people to lynch.

Supreme Overlord and Heliman have 48 hours to confirm otherwise they will be replaced.

Simulation: Initiate.

The day is sunny. You are all stood in the park, looking at one another suspiciously. In the middle of the circle is the dead body of

Nexus, moderator.

He was brutally murdered. Some of your number are responsible. Who was it? You need to make a decision. Who will you lynch?

[izakthegoomba]

Right, let's get going!

[Cobblerfone]

Random vote for an SE to get the ball rollin'. (To explain: They're not in the teaching role of the IC, while they've had more games than any newbie, thus one of them gets my "random" vote.)

I will change if I think someone elso is more suspicious.

Vote: jmurph3

[izakthegoomba]

Random vote for an SE to get the ball rollin'. (To explain: They're not in the teaching role of the IC, while they've had more games than any newbie, thus one of them gets my "random" vote.)

I will change if I think someone elso is more suspicious.

Vote: jmurph3

Makes sense. I won't vote yet, but you have a good point. But an SE could be useful as a Townie. Even more so as a doc or cop.

[izakthegoomba]

Oh, hang on... Just had a thought. What if Cobblerfone is scum? And is trying to damage our chances?

[Trendall]

VOTE: izakthegoomba

Get an avatar.

Hello.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Oi, to head off questions of this nature: I respond to nearly any variation of my name from the full thing to DDD, Danny to DDDP to "Hey, you" as long as I know that I'm the "Hey, you" you're referring to. As the IC, I'm here to answer questions and provide some order to the game while also playing the game. If you have some question not related directly to your role (those questions should be sent to Nexus) feel free to ask them. It is much better to ask a question than to blunder and hurt the town accidentally.

Other than that, you get out of this game what you put in. So if you want to have fun, come in with a positive attitude, don't take any debate, arguments, or accusations personally and just pretend it's Pat Benetar and give it your best shot. I think experience is the best teacher and so unless otherwise prompted I'll be playing the game the same as the rest of you.

~

VOTE: Trendall

Law of averages says he's likely to be scum this time.

[izakthegoomba]

VOTE: izakthegoomba

Get an avatar.

Hello.

Is that really a reason to vote for me? FYI, I was going to use my normal avatar, but it's too big. I'll get it resized though. I

have

only been here a few days.

[Trendall]

I do it to everybody who doesn't have an avatar. Don't take it personally.

UNVOTE:

[jmurph3]

VOTE: Supreme Overlord LYNCH ALL LURKERS RAWRRR

[Supreme Overlord]

VOTE: jmurph3
Lynch all policy lynchers!

[Cobblerfone]

I don't know if it's changed, but from what I understand, when we're in a "random voting stage" it's considered impolite to vote for someone that already has a vote on them. Is that right, DDD?
Since I believe that's the case I'm going to:

unvote

And

vote:Quilford

Nothing personal.

[izakthegoomba]

@jmurph3 I hardly think he's a lurker yet

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@Trendall actually, thanks. I might have forgotten if it wasn't for that.

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@DDDP The law of averages cannot be used here. The only situation in which we could use the law of averages for mafia roles would be

before

any of the games concerned had started. Let me use an example:

Jimbob has never played mafia before. He is now going to play nine consecutive games, all of which use the F11 setup. This means that, on average, he will be scum in two of those games. This is a perfectly safe conclusion.

However, look at the following scenario:

Jimbob has now played eight of those games. In seven of them he was innocent; in the remaining one, he was scum. However, that

does not

necessarily mean that he will be scum in the final game just to make up the numbers. In fact, the chances of him being scum are still only 2/9.

See what I mean? Sorry if that sounded a bit high-and-mighty, but it's the truth.

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Back to the point, I'd be in favour of getting D1 out the way with before things get tedious. Even a random lynch is better than no lynch, right?

VOTE: jmurph3

Kind of random, just trying to speed things along a bit.

[jmurph3]

@izakthegoomba: At the time when I voted Supreme Overlord, he had not yet confirmed. It was a joke more than anything. Additionally, I'm highly concerned by your eagerness to get D1 over with. A quick D1 is disastrous for town as it leaves us with nothing to talk about on D2. FoS:izak

@Cobblerfone: it's neither polite nor impolite to vote someone who already has a vote on them during RVS. If anything, it's not a bad idea to get a wagon going to see how the person reacts and how other people react to it. However, tossing a third or fourth vote onto someone during RVS is normally bad taste without having some kind of reason (thus making it not really a random vote).

[Cobblerfone]

@izak Well, that depends if twilight takes up the rest of the day we

would

have had. And D1 is where we all get information for the next day.

Hmm... This is quite interesting. Not interesting enough for a vote quite yet, but interesting. Since a goon would want as little info for the town to go on as possible. But it

could

be a newbie mistake. One I probably would have made if I hadn't done some reading on here.

FOS: izakthegoomba

[izakthegoomba]

Is a quick D1 is disastrous? Oops. Sorry. How, though?

[Cobblerfone]

@jmurph3: Thanks.

@izak: A quick D1 gives us no information of who to vote for the next day. All the voting and all of the reactions to the voting gives us the info we need for the next day.

Am I learnin' it good, guys?

[izakthegoomba]

Oh, right. I've only ever played with clues before. I guess it's quite different.

UNVOTE: jmurph3

[Heliman]

Hey people, Pardon the unbridled aggression you're about to see here, it's how my last forum liked to play the game.

Back to the point, I'd be in favour of getting D1 out the way with before things get tedious. Even a random lynch is better than no lynch, right?
VOTE: jmurph3
Kind of random, just trying to speed things along a bit.

VOTE: izakthegoomba, There are two things about this that make you look scummy.

One, only scum would want to get D1 out of the way early, unless you'd care to explain otherwise.

Two, You're statement is a direct contradiction with this post, where you took issue with Trendall for voting randomly in the same way you just voted randomly here.

Spoiler: PS

( For everyone saying

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[b]Vote: Username[/b]

It's much easier just to say

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[vote]Username[/vote]

instead. There's a button for /vote on top of the reply box.)

[Supreme Overlord]

I don't really like these posts from izakthegoomba:

But an SE could be useful as a Townie. Even more so as a doc or cop.

Oh, hang on... Just had a thought. What if Cobblerfone is scum? And is trying to damage our chances?

This is just speculation. There's no point asking 'what if?', since that's what we're all doing anyway, to try to identify scum. Rather than asking "What if Cobblerfone is scum? And is trying to damage our chances?", you should be looking at his posts to decide if he

is

actually trying to damage our chances. It looks a bit like you're putting out possibilities here, and expecting them to be taken as fact.

Back to the point, I'd be in favour of getting D1 out the way with before things get tedious. Even a random lynch is better than no lynch, right?

VOTE: jmurph3

Kind of random, just trying to speed things along a bit.

At this point, were you thinking it would have been a good idea for two other people to vote jmurph and end the day? Also, I would actually argue that a random lynch is worse than a no lynch, but we're not trying for a random lynch, we're trying for an

informed

lynch (which may or may not hit scum), and that is definitely better than a no lynch.

Hmm... This is quite interesting. Not interesting enough for a vote quite yet, but interesting. Since a goon would want as little info for the town to go on as possible. But it could be a newbie mistake. One I probably would have made if I hadn't done some reading on here.

I'm thinking a newbie mistake is likely. But a newbie-scum or newbie-town? I think it's worthy of a vote and some pressure.
UNVOTE: jmurph3
VOTE: izakthegoomba

PREVIEW: Heliman, how convinced are you?

[Heliman]

PREVIEW: Heliman, how convinced are you?

I'm not. It's day one and not even a page into the game. This is just scum hunting. I'm putting Izak on the spot with a vote and some questions about his actions to see if he can tell me any other good reasons why he made mistakes like these besides being scum.