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I might have a really busy day at work today but I’ll be checking in as often as I can!-
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Wait, where do I sign up for coaching?! I’m sure everyone knows I need it lolIn post 20, DragonEater70 wrote: Oh wow Dannflor is in this game. So I can get live coaching from him on this.-
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In post 22, Hu Tao wrote: Hi.
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I think we should just hug it outIn post 26, Hu Tao wrote: The only 2 players I fear. Kay and Dannflor. How will I survive this game-
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Tell me who the scum are please, I’m exhausted todayIn post 58, Hu Tao wrote: Not yet. I feel comfortable reading most of the players though except like 3 so I'm not worried-
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I don’t know these people well enough to know if this is all sarcasm or not.-
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YesIn post 81, DragonEater70 wrote: Which part, Kay?-
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You tell meIn post 85, DragonEater70 wrote: Then in this case I will say they are sarcastic. Unless you think a game with 5 scum and 4 town is possible.-
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Well if it eases your worry - that was, in fact, a joke.In post 105, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
I feel like you're playing the newbie / "I'm so lost" card too much for it to be natural and hiding behind it sortaIn post 92, KayJayQueue wrote:
You tell meIn post 85, DragonEater70 wrote: Then in this case I will say they are sarcastic. Unless you think a game with 5 scum and 4 town is possible.
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Okay well since it’s a micro, these busses can’t get too long or you’ll actually kill me so please stop.-
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You may see things as AI but I’ve only played with 2 of these people so for everyone else, I can’t tell if it’s their personality, their play style or something that would indicate to me that they are scum. If you say there has been a lot, I can honestly say I can’t pinpoint much if any yet. If that’s going to make me a target or read as using being new as an excuse for being scum, I don’t know what else I can do. But it gets a little tiring when everything I do is construed as faking my inexperience or using it as an excuse, and that being used as a scumread on me.In post 129, Gimli wrote:
do you have reads tho, kay?In post 125, KayJayQueue wrote: Okay well since it’s a micro, these busses can’t get too long or you’ll actually kill me so please stop.
I think the game has had a lot of AI content and yet you gave no input
This isn’t just about this game, it’s been in every game so I’m sorry for being a bit exhausted from defending myself from those specific accusations.-
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Well my only 2 finished games was one where I was scum and my partners…I don’t think they should ever be a baseline. The micro I just finished…scum 1 was just trolling, scum 2 was completely MIA and then replaced out. So I don’t have much experience actually reading how scum act. I guess I’d look for someone avoiding the conversation. (without V/LA)In post 139, Black wrote: Kay how do you expect scum to start the game?-
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Maybe it’s because, and here’s a wild thought, I am new. And the players I’m joking with are the only ones I’m acquainted with so I feel better engaging with them with lighthearted banter.In post 141, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
There were also these other posts that gave me this impression, which in spite of the light-hearted framing, still comes across as emphasizing your newness. I guess it's this behavior plus not commenting on other things in the game, hence giving me the "hiding behind it" feelingIn post 124, KayJayQueue wrote:
Well if it eases your worry - that was, in fact, a joke.In post 105, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
I feel like you're playing the newbie / "I'm so lost" card too much for it to be natural and hiding behind it sortaIn post 92, KayJayQueue wrote:
You tell meIn post 85, DragonEater70 wrote: Then in this case I will say they are sarcastic. Unless you think a game with 5 scum and 4 town is possible.
VOTE: KayJayQueue
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That was my very first game, ever. It’s true that I didn’t know anyone’s meta. How am I supposed to? And it’s still true. Just because I was scum doesn’t mean everything I did or said was a lie. I know that will probably be twisted or written off as a lie as well but I don’t know what to say. I basically ignored the fact I was scum and just used that game to familiarize myself with how a long form game is played.-
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I’ll reconsider Gimli if enough people tell me they have a good read but so far, I’m not loving the ISO. Especially regarding me.-
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Am I only boring if I’m scum?In post 299, Gimli wrote:
I'm about to see a classIn post 298, Dannflor wrote: where are you gimli
if its just kay and kage this game is kind of a bore-
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To be fair, this game started during my work weekend so I couldn’t be as active as I usually am. I just worked 43 hours in the past 3 days, then I had a 5 hour flight home. Ive just actually gotten home now but I’ve barely slept. Once I get refreshed I probably won’t shut upIn post 326, Gimli wrote:
I didnt say you were boring, I said the game would be a bore cause the solve is just two slots doing not much to get townreadIn post 323, KayJayQueue wrote:
Am I only boring if I’m scum?In post 299, Gimli wrote:
I'm about to see a classIn post 298, Dannflor wrote: where are you gimli
if its just kay and kage this game is kind of a bore
also I did replace into that game where NM/nurse were scum and you were pretty much a lock town read by page... 5? this so far is very far from it-
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I usually travel on Thursdays, work insane hours Friday-Sunday, fly home Monday. So I’m usually active Monday-ish to Thursday and then when I’m being irresponsible at work lolIn post 335, Gimli wrote:
jesus man how do you guys even find the time to mafia?
I'm having my university classes but from home
also working from home
just having a whole lot of staying home this week
thank god cause its so hot here you have no idea-
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What do you mean may not be a bus?
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Didn’t want a possible elimination when I didn’t think I had a full grasp on the game or my reads. I need to really go back through now that I’m not distracted at work and get more solid feelings about people.
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I don’t know his play style but this ISO just seems so erratic and reflexive. It seems pretty dependent on other people’s ideas, thus changing too quickly to seem like he’s really developing his own thoughts instead of just seeing someone else post something that looks good and altering his “reads” to fit the current topic. It’s not that someone can’t change their mind but I don’t see being so quick to flip flop over and over being a good way to play as town.In post 353, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
Can you say why those reads and progressions are not believable from a town perspective?In post 351, KayJayQueue wrote:
114 122In post 341, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: KJQ what about Gimli's ISO do you not like?
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Sorry I just got out of a game where the scum was trolling and threatening to hammer anyone that was E-1 so I guess I was still in the mindset of “shit E-1, day is going to end” and I don’t feel like I have established enough stable reads to go into day 2 confident I’d have something meaningful to contribute.In post 354, Hu Tao wrote:
No one is gonna hammer and it takes pressure off of himIn post 352, KayJayQueue wrote:Didn’t want a possible elimination when I didn’t think I had a full grasp on the game or my reads. I need to really go back through now that I’m not distracted at work and get more solid feelings about people.
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I think you’re seeing what you want to see. No matter how I answered your question, you’d have found a reason to believe it was scummy. That’s what I think.In post 371, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
YeahIn post 369, May wrote:
Are you saying Kay is scummy?In post 368, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
Ehhh it seems like scum reading a certain anti town behavior rather than believing it is scummyIn post 365, Gimli wrote: I kinda don't think its kay now. I understand her scumread on me.-
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At least 2 of thoseIn post 378, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
What am I? Town, scum, annoying?In post 374, KayJayQueue wrote:
I think you’re seeing what you want to see. No matter how I answered your question, you’d have found a reason to believe it was scummy. That’s what I think.In post 371, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
YeahIn post 369, May wrote:
Are you saying Kay is scummy?In post 368, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
Ehhh it seems like scum reading a certain anti town behavior rather than believing it is scummyIn post 365, Gimli wrote: I kinda don't think its kay now. I understand her scumread on me.
lol kidding
You’re just wrong, I don’t know if it’s informed or not.-
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Looks like a “anyone but me” strategy in full effect.-
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Just adding it to the list of questionable things to do if you’re town and actively trying to win the game, not just avoid being voted. You can’t just be only defensive as town.In post 393, Gimli wrote:
welcome to forum mafiaIn post 392, KayJayQueue wrote: Looks like a “anyone but me” strategy in full effect.-
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Honestly it’s leaning that way.In post 396, Hu Tao wrote:
Revote?In post 392, KayJayQueue wrote: Looks like a “anyone but me” strategy in full effect.-
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This is just getting ridiculous.
If you’re town, this gameplay is baffling. Just take a minute and get a solid read for once, like damn lol-
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VOTE: Gimli
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If you think that’s the only reason I’m voting him you haven’t been paying attention.
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I was asked to explain my reads and I did. I said I don’t know your play style. I said I find it baffling. I don’t think I was telling you how to play but I was telling you how I was feeling about how you are playing. I find it so funny that when people want to sus me, I get the “she’s using bring new as an excuse” and yet when I explain my reads on someone it becomes “she’s only played two games, she knows nothing”. Damned if I do, damned if I don’t.In post 446, Gimli wrote:am I the arrogant one? I'm not telling anyone how to play mafia, you know.
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That’s true…am I the catalyst?In post 536, Doctor Drew wrote:Hey Kay, you just can't avoid a game where things get overly heated lol
At least you know it isn't the same player repping into to the slot
I didn’t really have a good read on DE so I need something good from you, please and thanks.-
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I was working all weekend, I couldn’t be as annoying as usual.In post 549, Doctor Drew wrote: Anywho, kinda up to page 8 or so, kinda just skimming to pick up vibes. I do feel like Hu is town, Kay seems a bit more reserved than our previous game......but I won't call her scum for that quite yet.....maybe-
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Ah there it is again. It’s giving me whiplash.-
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Literally giving an opinion that someone else just gave…word for word.In post 564, Gimli wrote:
you made one read this entire game and its this readIn post 561, KayJayQueue wrote: Ah there it is again. It’s giving me whiplash.
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Just because I’ve only given one in-depth read doesn’t mean I’m wrong. Until proven otherwise, I don’t see anything wrong with my read.-
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Weird how before you were content not to defend yourself because you thought I was town and understood why I was scum reading you? Now you’re just being dismissive that I’m scum and giving the condescending “it’s fine”. I really do hope you’re scum and are just playing the part to put sus on me because if this is really how you are as town when you get heat (such as saying I’m not on your level and that I was wrong because I’m new) then it’s not a very inviting environment as a new player to come into. If everything is based on meta and “how they normally play” or “I always do this as town” it alienates anyone that is new and unfamiliar with past games or the players. It feels like a crutch to just say it’s a meta.In post 574, Gimli wrote:
its fine you're just probably scum this gameIn post 572, KayJayQueue wrote: Just because I’ve only given one in-depth read doesn’t mean I’m wrong. Until proven otherwise, I don’t see anything wrong with my read.
being on my wagon is smart-
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Well I’ll happily prove you wrong. Vote me out of this game then it’ll accomplish 2 things: proving I’m town and not having to put up with your arrogant, passive aggressive bullshit. If you’re not scum, I’d highly rethink the way you approach people. It feels like you’re targeting me because I’m not an established player so no one is going to come to my defense. So by all means, vote me out and eat crow.-
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SameIn post 590, Gimli wrote: I never felt so unwelcome in any game as I do in this one fwiw.-
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I don’t think I’m able to be unbiased right at this moment.In post 601, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
Sorry if I contributed to this in any sense. Though I get aggressive sometimes, the intent is never to make anyone feel unwelcome, you includedIn post 591, KayJayQueue wrote:
SameIn post 590, Gimli wrote: I never felt so unwelcome in any game as I do in this one fwiw.
I asked earlier if you had any other reads. That was a genuine reach out if you want to talk about that instead?-
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You’re the only person I can understand feeling this way and I get it. The only thing that’s going to make you feel better going forward is 1. You’re town here and 2. The game ends and you see I’m town this time.In post 611, Hu Tao wrote: I want to Town read Kay. But I'm weary based on last game. Either way I don't think I want her today
Basically, I think this game will only be useful to inform you on future games. As it is, you’re going to have a really hard time with me being in this game because you’ll always be slightly scumreading me, especially if you start feeling I’m clearly town.-
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I think Dann is town. I’m leaning town on black.In post 619, Doctor Drew wrote:
Kay, forgetting about Gim's.....what is your honest take on a few other slots in the game.....doesn't matter whoIn post 616, KayJayQueue wrote:
You’re the only person I can understand feeling this way and I get it. The only thing that’s going to make you feel better going forward is 1. You’re town here and 2. The game ends and you see I’m town this time.In post 611, Hu Tao wrote: I want to Town read Kay. But I'm weary based on last game. Either way I don't think I want her today
Basically, I think this game will only be useful to inform you on future games. As it is, you’re going to have a really hard time with me being in this game because you’ll always be slightly scumreading me, especially if you start feeling I’m clearly town.
I want to trust Hu but I need more time to see what she does.
I don’t get the sus on kage but I think I was distracted during the time that sus came about so I may be missing something obvious.
May and your slot - null, no idea.
CSF could be anything and I’m still too affected by recent posts to form an unbiased opinion so I want to wait.
I’ve been too focused on Gimli. I can openly admit it. I don’t take back any of my reads on that situation though, tunnel or otherwise. I am very much not enjoying the game because of it and I’m sorry for not having better or more impactful reads to aid town in making the right decision here.-
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Maybe the reason Gimli is under so much pressure is directly related to having >100 posts. The one thing I’ll agree on that kage said is that Gimli accused nearly everyone of being scum and town at some point. Throwing reads out like they’re candy doesn’t instill much trust in someone because they’ve shown that come the next page, they’ll have moved onto a different read. It’s hard to work with someone that is that indecisive when every time they give a new read, it feels like it’s with full confidence. I can’t trust that behavior, no matter the alignment.-
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How this game has played out so far, if I were gone for a day, I could come back to dead chat. And what's worse is I don't even think my death would help town solve anything. Lose, lose scenario.In post 634, Doctor Drew wrote:
I have been in your spot more times than I would like to admit lol.....don't be afraid to take a day away from the game, that sometimes can help reset things and let you come back with a fresh outlook on things and help you enjoy yourself some more.In post 627, KayJayQueue wrote:
I think Dann is town. I’m leaning town on black.In post 619, Doctor Drew wrote:
Kay, forgetting about Gim's.....what is your honest take on a few other slots in the game.....doesn't matter whoIn post 616, KayJayQueue wrote:
You’re the only person I can understand feeling this way and I get it. The only thing that’s going to make you feel better going forward is 1. You’re town here and 2. The game ends and you see I’m town this time.In post 611, Hu Tao wrote: I want to Town read Kay. But I'm weary based on last game. Either way I don't think I want her today
Basically, I think this game will only be useful to inform you on future games. As it is, you’re going to have a really hard time with me being in this game because you’ll always be slightly scumreading me, especially if you start feeling I’m clearly town.
I want to trust Hu but I need more time to see what she does.
I don’t get the sus on kage but I think I was distracted during the time that sus came about so I may be missing something obvious.
May and your slot - null, no idea.
CSF could be anything and I’m still too affected by recent posts to form an unbiased opinion so I want to wait.
I’ve been too focused on Gimli. I can openly admit it. I don’t take back any of my reads on that situation though, tunnel or otherwise. I am very much not enjoying the game because of it and I’m sorry for not having better or more impactful reads to aid town in making the right decision here.
I also need to look at Kage some more, and everytime I see CSF post I am reminded that they are in this game lol-
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My sentiments exactly. And one person I was excited to play with isn’t even here still.In post 638, Duelist Kage wrote: Sorry I expected this game and the players to be fun, I guess.
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I don’t even know tbhIn post 639, May wrote:
Do you refer to "town" in third person in town gamesIn post 627, KayJayQueue wrote:
I think Dann is town. I’m leaning town on black.In post 619, Doctor Drew wrote:
Kay, forgetting about Gim's.....what is your honest take on a few other slots in the game.....doesn't matter whoIn post 616, KayJayQueue wrote:
You’re the only person I can understand feeling this way and I get it. The only thing that’s going to make you feel better going forward is 1. You’re town here and 2. The game ends and you see I’m town this time.In post 611, Hu Tao wrote: I want to Town read Kay. But I'm weary based on last game. Either way I don't think I want her today
Basically, I think this game will only be useful to inform you on future games. As it is, you’re going to have a really hard time with me being in this game because you’ll always be slightly scumreading me, especially if you start feeling I’m clearly town.
I want to trust Hu but I need more time to see what she does.
I don’t get the sus on kage but I think I was distracted during the time that sus came about so I may be missing something obvious.
May and your slot - null, no idea.
CSF could be anything and I’m still too affected by recent posts to form an unbiased opinion so I want to wait.
I’ve been too focused on Gimli. I can openly admit it. I don’t take back any of my reads on that situation though, tunnel or otherwise. I am very much not enjoying the game because of it and I’m sorry for not having better or more impactful reads to aid town in making the right decision here.
I feel like I do but at this point I feel so far removed from the “town” that I don’t feel like anyone is actually on my team here. So if I seem distant it’s because that’s exactly how I feel.-
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So I’m making the game dysfunctional?In post 642, May wrote:
Ok but like you do know you have to like prioritize alignment over all the other stuff at some juncture this game rightIn post 632, KayJayQueue wrote: Maybe the reason Gimli is under so much pressure is directly related to having >100 posts. The one thing I’ll agree on that kage said is that Gimli accused nearly everyone of being scum and town at some point. Throwing reads out like they’re candy doesn’t instill much trust in someone because they’ve shown that come the next page, they’ll have moved onto a different read. It’s hard to work with someone that is that indecisive when every time they give a new read, it feels like it’s with full confidence. I can’t trust that behavior, no matter the alignment.
You kinda make the game dysfunctional if you treat "bad is the same as being on the other team!" As part of the game nothing is possible to accomplish
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Okay, I get it.-
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Good game everyone
Sorry for repping out
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If you did, I get half the credit lolIn post 1520, JacksonVirgo wrote: I carried for sure-
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I hope I never roll scum ever with anyone ever-
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Nooo I didn’t mean that I take it back!!!In post 1559, Duelist Kage wrote: Rolling scum by yourself is the best way to do it.
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