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Masquerader Olive Townie
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I think I like blue.In post 18, Masquerader Blue wrote:
Hello, Magenta.In post 17, Masquerader Magenta wrote:@ blue, why? Do you just not love fall out boy?
@yellow, what's going on with the sample pm?
I like My Songs Know What You Did In The Dark (Light Em Up) and Immortals. I don't know any of their other songs.
I find you suspicious because you said "Yay, roleplay!" even though we aren't really roleplaying. We're using false identities, but these identities aren't known to us in any way. We have no basis of a character to imitate.
I find Teal suspicious because they would rather interact with the DJ than their fellow guests. This could be to avoid the glare of suspicion.
I also would like to know what is going on with Yellow's 'confirm the sample role PM'. On second thought, I may not want to know. It doesn't seem game-related or important. I don't find Yellow suspicious for this though.-
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Masquerader Olive Townie
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Masquerader Olive Townie
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Yeah, good point. I could see that as a possible perspective slip.In post 41, Masquerader Yellow wrote:The usual phrasing would be "Äre you still confused
about why I do not trust olive, red?"
Not why red should not trust them.-
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Masquerader Olive Townie
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lolwut(If you noticed what I did there, yes it was intentional: do you think an intruder is especially unlikely to express difficulty understanding how to divide your post into separate quotes and respond to all of them within the same reply? Do you believe that is a good reason for you to trust me? I encourage you to distrust both olive and myself for implying you should think so.)-
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Masquerader Olive Townie
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I am sorry that you either actually are an intruder or are just very bad at actually finding them. I’m still trying to determine that and jsyk, I currently would oppose your pairing with red, blue and yellow until I can confidently determine whether or not you are actually one of the bad guys or just plain wrong in your assessment of me.In post 50, Masquerader Purple wrote:
I'm sorry that you had to be aligned as an intruder against me in one of your first social deduction games, olive. This is another tell indicating olive is an intruder which is accepted on principle in any developed social deduction game (https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... 8.2B1.0.29). Players will usually only behave like olive when they are very inexperienced intruders.In post 48, Masquerader Olive wrote:
lolwut(If you noticed what I did there, yes it was intentional: do you think an intruder is especially unlikely to express difficulty understanding how to divide your post into separate quotes and respond to all of them within the same reply? Do you believe that is a good reason for you to trust me? I encourage you to distrust both olive and myself for implying you should think so.)
If we were aligned together olive I would do my best to help you handle this situation. Unfortunately --or fortunately -- it goes against my win condition to not attempt to induce you into as many mistakes as possible.
At this point in time I am vehemently against olive or yellow pairing with any player except each other, and I'm especially against either of them pairing with either red or blue.-
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Masquerader Olive Townie
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Then. in the case if you’re actually an invitee - DOUBT - I can most definitely assure you that I do absolutely believe what I posted. It looks extremely scummy the specific way you phrased it because I know you’re wrong and I’m finding it extremely difficult to honestly see that you’re an invitee actually confibiasing me when you have constantly misinterpreted something that really makes very little logical sense for a invitee with a modicum of common sense to so egregiously misperceive.In post 49, Masquerader Purple wrote:
I find your implication here ugly on both an aesthetic and a practical level, yellow, and especially unlikely to progress toward winning the game. I believe categorizing lines as those that are agenda driven and those that are not to be an unhelpful way to view the game, as most of the content written in this game will have some agenda behind it in some way shape or form, even if it's purely for self-amusement. Your statement is also an oxymoron in that I asked a question: it's assumed I have an agenda of inducing red to reveal information about himself. (is this pronoun acceptable to you, red, or do you prefer they or she or something else?)In post 40, Masquerader Yellow wrote:
Yeah this line looks agenda driven.In post 32, Masquerader Purple wrote:Are you still confused about why you should not trust olive, red?
1) Do you know what I mean when I say your statement is an oxymoron, yellow?
The most critical issue I have with yellow's post isn't that it's aesthetically myopic and impractical on a number of levels, it's that it directly interferes with masqué's ability to win the game. Discrediting players who are obvious majority is an accepted tell in any developed social deduction game as it's necessary for the minority to do this in order to win the game (https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... 8.2B1.0.29).
The fact that yellow is disregarding everything I've written to focus on the syntax of a single line and claim that it makes me less credible indicates a lack of strategic and social awareness about the game we are playing. Regardless of yellow's alignment it goes against their own win condition by damaging their credibility. They are furthering the agenda of the minority for superficial reasons in plain sight for all to see: why would we take yellow seriously, and what does yellow have to gain from doing that? The answer is that yellow does not know what they are doing (unless they are playing dumb, which is always a possibility) and unless they can demonstrate more strategic and social awareness they are a liability if they are a masqué.
I believe this information is valuable purely because it comes from you.In post 41, Masquerader Yellow wrote:The usual phrasing would be "Äre you still confused
about why I do not trust olive, red?"
Not why red should not trust them.
Yes it was a proper and witty response. Fortunately, the rest of red's reply suggested they are thinking about the game and able to communicate their ideas effectively, something which you have not displayed thus far, yellow. You would have given yourself a chance to appreciate that if you were not skim reading our posts, yellow.In post 42, Masquerader Yellow wrote:
This is the proper response.In post 34, Masquerader Red wrote:Well, I'm certainly less confused as to why you don't trust them.
I do not believe that olive actually thinks yellow made a good point or that the way I worded my question actually appears to them as a perspective slip. You're in luck yellow: olive appears to be a wealth of information about the identity of the intruders. I believe that olive's reply indicates they know yellow is a masqué and would prefer to see us fight each other.In post 43, Masquerader Olive wrote:
Yeah, good point. I could see that as a possible perspective slip.In post 41, Masquerader Yellow wrote:The usual phrasing would be "Äre you still confused
about why I do not trust olive, red?"
Not why red should not trust them.
If you don't believe me, watch for olive's response (I know you posted "lolwut" a few minutes ago, olive, and are likely reading this soon after it's posted:)
Olive, why did you think yellow made a good point, and how is the way I worded my question a perspective slip?
I don't know if these are reads or if you're just stating your opinion in stream-of-consciousness. Do you believe players who you like are more common to be intruders or less likely? I'm not sure if there is any meaningful correlation as the intruders are often focused only on getting you to like them and can refrain from telling you when they dislike something you write.In post 44, Masquerader Yellow wrote:It's early but I like blue red and olive
and dislike purple and green so far.
If these are reads, I do agree with the majority of your reads except I don't believe you have any meaningful reason to trust olive (telling you what you want to hear isn't a meaningful reason to trust someone, yellow, it means they might be an intruder and you should be reading them with more scrutiny, not less) and obviously I believe the idea that you would distrust me based on my play so far to be comedic. I believe this list indicates yellow to be a strong contender to be eliminated first in order to improve masqués chances of winning the game.
2) Yellow, why did olive write that you made a good point and why do they believe my question to red indicates a perspective slip?
Yellow, I believe that you are likely to be a masqué, however, I have a suspicion that you are not reading any posts which contain multiple lines of text with the necessary level of scrutiny, and you are motivated in part to "dislike" me because you can't be bothered to read my posts, and are therefore an ideal candidate to be eliminated first (rather than myself who is able to read and write competently enough to play this game.) If you would like to prove me wrong, then demonstrate you can read:In post 45, Masquerader Yellow wrote:These pfps are jarring btwfind the two bolded underlined questions I asked you and reply to them.
So, I would greatly appreciate you stop telling me and others what they do or do not think. These words will most likely be lost on you, whether it’s because you are actually an intruder or are completely incapable of detecting nuance is yet to be determined but you are definitely posting like an intruder, that much is beyond clear. Whether you actually are one, I don’t know but you’re posting is making it extremely difficult to see your intention being towards solving as opposed to agenda driven takes. So if my assessment of you is wrong, it’s totally incumbent on you and only you, to change that perception.
I intend no disrespect by anything I said in this post. My intention is to get through to you why you look like an intruder to me and if you’re actually not one, you need to change that.-
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Masquerader Olive Townie
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I agree, we need to see more from Green, like if they actually do follow up. Any thoughts so far to who you think could be a possible intruder?In post 55, Masquerader Teal wrote:I track people by avatars so having them all be the same but colorswapped is going to be difficult for me.
Holy hell what is even going on in purple's posts
I don't think I like calling green mafia for posting just to post while being sick, I think that's an easy trap to fall for but doesn't actually tell you anything AI-
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Masquerader Olive Townie
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Well that post you quoted from them as “uncharitable” didn’t even make any sense. I couldn’t log into my account, so them hypothethizing that I met my hypothetical scum partner is is just like dude, do you actually even bother to read what you type? It’s just such a ridiculous post, it’s almost too ridiculous. I’m not going to yet assume anything about their alignment but i have been fooled by fps posting before, so I’m going to try to keep an open mind but if they’re town, they are not exactly making it easy to be able to read them. It’s just hard to also believe anyone has such horrible takes.In post 59, Masquerader Red wrote:And another p-edit.
I'm not writing them off as TVT, I just thinktheyare writing each other off as scum prematurely. Having read Purple more closely than when I started that post I think they're at least somewhat viably scum but I don't think they've done anything actively suspicious; I do think them casting themself as obvious town and those discrediting them as detractors is a bit.... gauche.-
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Masquerader Olive Townie
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fancy playstyle but I see they’ve now abandoned it, thank God.In post 67, Masquerader Magenta wrote:@olive, what's FPS posting?-
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Masquerader Olive Townie
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Can you give me your case for both of them? And thank you for making your posts actually readable.In post 86, Masquerader Purple wrote:This game is won on the first elimination if we force yellow and green to pair with each other.-
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Purple, why are you so eager to pair with me? Why do you think I specifically should accept your invitation? I don’t get it. You’ve gone from having me as your top intruder pick to to having me as your preferred partner? Why exactly?
One slot I’m kind of wondering about is magenta. They consider red negative but have most of the playerlist as likely intruders? If I misunderstood you magenta, I apologize but I don’t understand your takes. Perhaps yoican explain them better?-
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Masquerader Olive Townie
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Why don’t you just retract the invites you’re less sure of then?In post 122, Masquerader Purple wrote:
The automaton mechanic indicates that the intruders must guess the identity of both players simultaneously in order to kill them. This implies it's helpful to pair invitees so that at least one player is difficult to guess. I believe your dislike of fps play has caused you to take less precautions in protecting your identity than I have, so we will be safe in that regard, and I am eager because I believe that I extended an invitation to at least one intruder if not two. In other words, I'm hoping that you will protect me by not giving time for an intruder to pair with me, so I can protect you by making my identity difficult to spot, so we will not die if an automaton is used upon us.In post 121, Masquerader Olive wrote:Purple, why are you so eager to pair with me? Why do you think I specifically should accept your invitation? I don’t get it. You’ve gone from having me as your top intruder pick to to having me as your preferred partner? Why exactly?
As for the changing read, I misjudged you initially, and now I think I understand you better and I believe you are unlikely to be an intruder.
I’m not entirely sure I understand the automan mechanic but I would strongly advise you to retract your invite to magenta.
What about what Yellow said about you using the word “mask”? Are you saying you know who I am? I really want to trust you but I’m scared.-
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Masquerader Olive Townie
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I think you probably don’t tell me that as intruder but I’m still scared. I still don’t understand why you don’t uninvite teal and magenta whom you’re suspicious of? or you cannot retract invites?In post 122, Masquerader Purple wrote:
The automaton mechanic indicates that the intruders must guess the identity of both players simultaneously in order to kill them. This implies it's helpful to pair invitees so that at least one player is difficult to guess. I believe your dislike of fps play has caused you to take less precautions in protecting your identity than I have, so we will be safe in that regard, and I am eager because I believe that I extended an invitation to at least one intruder if not two. In other words, I'm hoping that you will protect me by not giving time for an intruder to pair with me, so I can protect you by making my identity difficult to spot, so we will not die if an automaton is used upon us.In post 121, Masquerader Olive wrote:Purple, why are you so eager to pair with me? Why do you think I specifically should accept your invitation? I don’t get it. You’ve gone from having me as your top intruder pick to to having me as your preferred partner? Why exactly?
As for the changing read, I misjudged you initially, and now I think I understand you better and I believe you are unlikely to be an intruder.-
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Masquerader Olive Townie
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You were right that I didn’t really understand the automan mechanic and really didn’t put too much thought into trying to disguise my identity beyond the obvious. However, I don’t think it’s extremely obvious either based off of what other people have told me about my posting, so if you can remain enigmatic, I hopefully don’t have to be too concerned about that.In post 131, Masquerader Purple wrote:Thank you, you were right, I am an invitee.-
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Masquerader Olive Townie
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Yellow, the invitee role pm is right in the setup post. Everyone in the playerlist had access to that post. In fact, it was the intruder role pm that was posted after game had already started.In post 2, RH wrote:Setup
- This is a Secret Alt game.
- There are against7 Invitees.2 Intruders
- Both DaytalkandMultitaskingis enabled by default.
- During the Reception, Masqueraders form pairs.
- During Sessions, Masqueraders force pairs to exit.
Spoiler: Invitee
Spoiler: Intruder
Spoiler: Mask-
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Masquerader Olive Townie
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The fact that it was in the pre-game setup post, invalidates your argument.In post 134, Masquerader Yellow wrote:
If you had received a green PMIn post 128, Masquerader Purple wrote:I don't fully understand how yellow is perceiving that I slipped
it would be unequivocal that invitee is the proper label.-
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How am I buddying anyone and when did I ever say I scumread yellow even a little bit? Why are you putting words in my mouth? The only player right now who’s currently worrying me now is you.In post 143, Masquerader Magenta wrote:I can't work out I'd olive is massively buddying purple or just really really strongly scum reads yellow because that tone change between the two on this page gives me whiplash.
I merely pointed out that the setup post invalidates Yellow’s reasons for thinking Purple slipped.
Also, very much disliked your characterization of Red’s posts. I guess I must be buddying them too.-
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I don’t understand then, how so? Your argument is that Purple slipped but they had access to the invitee role pm because of the setup post, so why would they use the word “masque” in lieu of that? If there was no sample role pm, then I could see why your argument would make sense but they’re was.In post 151, Masquerader Yellow wrote:
No it really doesn't.In post 141, Masquerader Olive wrote:
The fact that it was in the pre-game setup post, invalidates your argument.In post 134, Masquerader Yellow wrote:
If you had received a green PMIn post 128, Masquerader Purple wrote:I don't fully understand how yellow is perceiving that I slipped
it would be unequivocal that invitee is the proper label.-
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In post 153, Masquerader Yellow wrote:
And invitees were not, so?In post 145, Masquerader Green wrote:
or, try this: Purple read the opening flavorIn post 134, Masquerader Yellow wrote:
If you had received a green PMIn post 128, Masquerader Purple wrote:I don't fully understand how yellow is perceiving that I slipped
it would be unequivocal that invitee is the proper label.
Intruders were mentioned in there
What about this then?Known only to their possessors!
Alas, those Intruders, they'll be the guessers!
How they wish to unmask you all!
How they want to use them to cause your downfall!
Beware, friends, and confide to none!
Heed this advice or you're done!-
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Masquerader Olive Townie
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They didn’t offer it to you or green at the time. I don’t know. I’m thinking they’re continuing to re-evaluate their reads is a sign of possible inviteeness. I initially intruder read them for their ridiculous tunnel on me but their continual reassessing the playerlist is generally something that town is far more likel to do than scum. Am I nervous, sure. Purple wasn’t my most confident invitee read but I also like their assessment of that I really didn’t put too much thought into trying to disguise my posting and how that might possibly make me more vulnerable and then when I asked why they didn’t retract the offers they were less sure of to give me more time to think about it, they did. I just think that intruder Purple would be more likely to want to keep me as viable nightkill option, based off of what they said about me. Because apparently they think my identity is less difficult to guess, so why did they want to pair with me the most?In post 154, Masquerader Yellow wrote:One more post about Purple
Does no one see that offering
to as many people as they reasonably could so early on
maximize their odds of not being squeezed out?
And does no one find this scummy?
What is the intruder motive for all of that?-
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Masquerader Olive Townie
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My read on Purple changed because it looked like they were genuinely trying to solve me. When it looks like someone is doing that, it tends to affect my read on them. I feel your mischaracterizing Red’s posting as somehow negative and I’m really not seeing that.In post 155, Masquerader Magenta wrote:@olive, it's a million % a tone thing, what really stood out was the difference between your 129 and 141: you must see the difference? But then your tone to purple changes massively between 125 and 129 so maybe I'm jumping ar shadows.
With red, what specifically do you disagree with me about?
Blue could be town, their original opening was fine.
I want teal to come back. *pout*
I like this post from you more than any of your others and now I’m even more confused than ever on who the intruders are.-
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I agree because I don’t think Purple was in much danger of not getting picked. It seems the only player really suspicious of them is yellow. If Purple was widely intruder read, then Yellow’s point would be more compelling. What impressed me was that it seemed their main reason for preferring me was that they thought that my identity wasn’t less hard to guess, which would be a reason for intruder Purple not to pick me. Preferring me for that reason, makes way more sense if they’re an invitee.In post 160, Masquerader Red wrote:I think the Purple offering to all but two people thing is a shtick, and it does have obvious utility as scum but there's also intrinsic risk to making that post and I don't think it's like Purple was particularly likely to be left out by taking a different tact. So I don't really think it was Purple panicking as scum. The invitee thing is, eh, more or less meaningless in my mind. Purple could be scum who didn't realize that town are invitees, but in some respect I'd think if Purple were scum they'd have been more careful about that; I don't think they're particularly more likely to make that mistake as scum than as town.-
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I think I liked what they said about Purple but I’m now wondering why they aren’t considering the possibility that yellow could be a tunnelled invitee.In post 161, Masquerader Red wrote:Olive, what are you liking recently from Green? I can see Cyan being more town in the past page.-
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I definitely want red to be paired but with Cyan now off the market, whoever I think is more likely to be invitee between you and blue.In post 171, Masquerader Magenta wrote:@red, i re read your post and while I think my initial 'negative vibes ' impression is still valid, it's not quite as bad as I thought. There are some take.aways, but I guess I find it easier to find town than scum and that affects my take on those kind of posts. In particular, I think what you said about green was well thought through, that their logic seemed backwards.
Their posting on this page is terribad.
I wanted to dance with teal but also really want their catch up. Would anyone oppose this pairing?
Rn, I lean you over blue because they’re not doing as much.-
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I’m not commenting on posts that I don’t see as currently relevant. If you’d been paying attention, you’d know I no long hold that opinion.In post 179, Masquerader Green wrote:
how could you see it as thatIn post 43, Masquerader Olive wrote:
Yeah, good point. I could see that as a possible perspective slip.In post 41, Masquerader Yellow wrote:The usual phrasing would be "Äre you still confused
about why I do not trust olive, red?"
Not why red should not trust them.
I think in context Purple's comment that Yellow was reacting to made way more sense. The most charitable interpretation of this is you were taking Yellow's comments at face value, which shows lack of effort on your part to determine the quote was not doctored.
Also, @Magenta, what makes my posting on the previous page "terribad"?-
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I liked magenta’s recent posts. Blue could be anything. I don’t have any issue with anything they’ve posted but it’s more that they haven’t really done too much for awhile, so with little time left, I’d expect them to be more active. I suppose they could just be a bored invitee?In post 180, Masquerader Purple wrote:Magenta seems the most suspicious to me. I'm not sure where their interest in teal comes from or their suspicion of red. Magenta seems to be the most worried about finding a partner (and how they will be perceived for asking or accepting) and the least worried about finding the intruders. If they wish, olive can elaborate on the depth of their feelings toward magenta and I will listen. I have read magenta's recent posting and am not impressed.
Green looks like an invitee who was wrongly accused or an intruder who is angry because they feel they were caught for wrong reasons. I don't know. The fact they seem unlikely to receive a partner probably means they are most likely to be invitee of the players I suspect. It's possible that magenta saw through the layers of wifom and asked to be paired with teal so that they would end up paired green, however, unless someone objects, since magenta and green seem so anxious to receive a partner and haven't voiced too much suspicion of each other, why not pair up together?
Teal dropping out looks like intruder who was pushed from the beginning of the game and lost morale over time. It could also be an invitee who lost morale or became sick and ran out of energy, though I consider this alternative explanation less likely. It hasn't escaped my attention that despite their claims to be slow in forming reads, here as the eleventh hour approaches they are even more absent than they were at the beginning. I think teal avoided outting reads and when they did out reads they sounded suspicious. I prefer that teal be left without a partner just to be rid of them.
I'm a bit at odds with olive here on blue: I'm willing to gamble blue is invitee (though it would be amusing if the intruders were blue and teal and the intruders have given up posting altogether) and I'm optimistic their absence is as frustrating to the intruder's as it is to us. Red will likely be an ideal target to be killed with an automaton and being paired with new blue may be a double edged-sword. The intruders have little information to guess new blue's identity, as we have little information to sort them. I prefer to tempt fate and hope new blue's absence is nai and that they will provide some protection to red by being awkward for the intruders to guess.
All I can say about cyan and yellow is that I really hope they are invitee. Cyan seemed genuine in their ketchup and yellow is yellow. I mean I can say more than that but I'll leave it there.-
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It was an opinion that I held that I no longer do and good for you I guess,In post 186, Masquerader Green wrote:like, I recognized you no longer held that stance, but I think it was a bad stance to begin with.-
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In post 147, Masquerader Cyan wrote:Unfortunate. I had hoped there was something more.
Why did you ignore Olive's participation in that exchange?In post 148, Masquerader Cyan wrote:In post 142, Masquerader Magenta wrote:I don't have veru strong reads at all and have very clearly not understood the automaton thing - can someone explain like I'm five?- Intruders, per the sample role PM, have an ability called "Automaton." Spoiler:
- This ability states that if they can correctly identitfy the true identity behind bothof the masqueraders in a pair, the automaton ability will remove their masks.Spoiler:
- If a masquerader loses their mask, they must leave the masquerade. Spoiler:
- This effectively allows Intruders to eliminate Invitees outside of the standard method during Sessions should they be able to correctly identify both of the players behind the masque in a pair.
Blue, I liked their questions and takes so far on the game. What is your issue with Cyan?In post 169, Masquerader Cyan wrote:
Alright. Would you speak of their actions now, specifically with regard to that exchange?In post 164, Masquerader Green wrote:
I don't really have a cut-and-dry feel for Olive's actions so I haven't really spoken on them yetIn post 147, Masquerader Cyan wrote:Unfortunate. I had hoped there was something more.
Why did you ignore Olive's participation in that exchange?-
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I do too, I just hope Blue is invitee.In post 200, Masquerader Purple wrote:I highly encourage accepting red's invitation to pair.-
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In post 225, Masquerader Blue wrote:In post 222, Masquerader Blue wrote:
because this is a dance game and the way you eliminate your scumreads in this phase of the game is to convince nobody to pair with them so that they get flipped.In post 218, Masquerader Cyan wrote:Why should Purple care if Red trusts Olive at that point? Purple had stated they were unclear on the alignment of everyone except for Blue and Olive at the time that post was made. One could posit that by saying “you” in that statement, Purple presumes Red town that needs to not trust Purple’s “scum read.”
like it literally does not matter what red's alignment or any other player's alignment is.
if purple scumreads olive
then purple is trying to eliminate olive
and the way purple eliminates olive is to convince every other player in the game to not pair with olive.
whether the other players are town or scum is irrelevant to purple's goal of eliminating olive.
saying that purple needs to townread red before convincing red to not pair with olive is just wrong and shows you haven't really thought about how to eliminate players.
Do either of you realize I’m already paired with purple? Cyan and yellow are also paired as is now red and blue?In post 226, Masquerader Teal wrote:Offer Hand to Masquerader Red
Offer Hand to Masquerader Green
Offer Hand to Masquerader Blue
Offer Hand to Masquerader Yellow
Offer Hand to Masquerader Cyan
Offer Hand to Masquerader Magenta
Offer Hand to Masquerader Olive
Offer Hand to Masquerader Purple
Offer Hand to Masquerader Teal
Will try to catch up now but I don't know who's still unpaired. If anyone finds me worth pairing I'd love to continue playing but I understand if I'm the one left out.
Only unpaired players are teal, magenta and green.-
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In post 230, Datisi wrote:
Masquerader Green - Masquerader Teal
Masquerader Magenta - Masquerader Teal
Not In A Pair- Masquerader Green, Masquerader Magenta, Masquerader Teal
- The combined mod ISO is here.
- As long as both players reciprocate the pairing, the pair will be formed.
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I liked that Cyan was asking Green about their not commenting on my participation and I also liked his explaining why they didn’t think purple slipped. My strongest invitee reads right now are red and purple, which I’ve been pretty consistent on recently. I also don’t understand what your issue is with Cyan?In post 227, Masquerader Blue wrote:
which of these posts do you think is town indicative and why?In post 202, Masquerader Olive wrote:In post 147, Masquerader Cyan wrote:Unfortunate. I had hoped there was something more.
Why did you ignore Olive's participation in that exchange?In post 148, Masquerader Cyan wrote:In post 142, Masquerader Magenta wrote:I don't have veru strong reads at all and have very clearly not understood the automaton thing - can someone explain like I'm five?- Intruders, per the sample role PM, have an ability called "Automaton." Spoiler:
- This ability states that if they can correctly identitfy the true identity behind bothof the masqueraders in a pair, the automaton ability will remove their masks.Spoiler:
- If a masquerader loses their mask, they must leave the masquerade. Spoiler:
- This effectively allows Intruders to eliminate Invitees outside of the standard method during Sessions should they be able to correctly identify both of the players behind the masque in a pair.
Blue, I liked their questions and takes so far on the game. What is your issue with Cyan?In post 169, Masquerader Cyan wrote:
Alright. Would you speak of their actions now, specifically with regard to that exchange?In post 164, Masquerader Green wrote:
I don't really have a cut-and-dry feel for Olive's actions so I haven't really spoken on them yetIn post 147, Masquerader Cyan wrote:Unfortunate. I had hoped there was something more.
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You currently have approximately 17 hours to pair with them.In post 233, Masquerader Teal wrote:I don't like green anymoreRescind offer to dance with greenI think their posts are little empty. I think finding me suspicious after page 1 after blue did as well seems like piggybacking onto something that doesn't actually have substance.
I like Magenta though I am liking their thought process on a couple of things.
If they want to pair that's fine I guess but I think green is more likely of the two to be scum so I'd rather pair with Magenta.-
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Oh shit, I was kind of having doubts at the end.In post 251, Datisi wrote:Masquerader Green has exited the masquerade. They were anInvitee.
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I think Magenta is really town. Will need to reread Teal, Cyan, Yellow.In post 263, Masquerader Magenta wrote:Red, I get what you are saying, but I think I was just wrong .I'm relying on tone a lot in a game with little outside clues, which is just bad.
I'm struggling looking for pairs. I think the enw blue is really strongly town and his predecessor looks town in context. I like that blue is aware of the levels of manipulation in the pairing mechanic, which I think some of us have been a bit naive to.
I think this reflects really badly on purple - it was really obvious they wanted to be a 'game leader ' early on, and had a fair bit of influence, but their contributions have died off and the last thing I remember doing was throwing shade at me after other people had, which felt inorganic.
I think olive, red and blue are town and I'm going to catch up with teal on the PT: their recent posting looked fine. My wekatest read is on red, but their reads look thought through and consistent. I'm in almost the opposite boat to res and blue: It seems unlikely that scum!yellow and scum!cyan are paired, but that's the pairing I'd most like to vote in.
My theory is that Purple switched their read based on their identity read on me and I think them pairing with me reads town indicative to me, because if intruder, why don’t they want me paired with someone else since intruders want to nk invitees that are relatively easy for them to guess.-
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I think most likely one invitee/intruder pairing most likely in the two pairings being current voted but right now, I feel extremely confident in magenta being town, so need to hear more from the teal, cyan and yellow.In post 268, Masquerader Blue wrote:Olive who do you think is mafia at this point?
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I thought that they’re posts looked like they were genuinely trying to solve me, so I’d say wholistic.In post 277, Masquerader Red wrote:In post 269, Masquerader Red wrote:Olive, is your Magenta read based mostly on that post or is it wholistic?-
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I’m assuming what I posted in our pt, my reasons for invitee reading you.In post 285, Masquerader Magenta wrote:@purple, what changed? Last time I noticed you were throwing shade at my slot.-
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Well that was a bust. :/In post 372, RH wrote:Masquerader Cyan has exited the masquerade. They were anInvitee.
Spoiler: Invitee
Masquerader Yellow has exited the masquerade. They were anInvitee.
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In post 375, Masquerader Magenta wrote:If people want to vote this pair because they think it's teal (or me, it isn't) then fine. Although they made one post with town vibes in the PT, it's very much a repeat of their 'this is hard' post. I think I'm particularly susceptible to it, but there's been enough content in the thread that reads shouldn't be impossible.
I don’t know what to do because I was wrong on both green and an intruder being in that pair, so maybe I’m wrong on blue? I know I’m invitee and I believe you and purple are as well. No one should exit prematurely. Let’s not rush this.-
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Yeah, I totally agree with that.In post 378, Masquerader Red wrote:Here's the situation
If we have scum paired together, we'll have to lim.
If scum are separate, then we have to do a leave.
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Since teal is your partner, I’m obviously going to trust your read on that the most. Why do you intruder read purple?In post 380, Masquerader Magenta wrote:The pairing with most likely scum/scum, for me, just flipped town! I strongly believe believe that Olive, red And and blue are still town: the flip hasn't changed the fact that teal and purple aren't in that category.-
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Do you not have reads on anyone else other than purple? Why no opinion on magenta’s read on you?In post 383, Masquerader Teal wrote:I apologize for being absent still.
It is ridiculous to assume me joking in the first post was an attempt to hide my identity. If anything, and I probably shouldn't be saying this, but it helps give it away.
I'm starting to think purple's leaps of logic are too wacky. I am concerned. There are too many false assumptions about my slot alone that just look like they're potentially trying to sandbag me.-
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Not really a fan of this post. You aren’t really taking a stand on anyone. That really isn’t an invitee way to think.In post 387, Masquerader Blue wrote:the way magenta is shading teal doesnt really feel theatrey
it is paving the way for an elimination in that pair and i dun see why he would do that unless galaxybraining?
- so if magenta/teal isnt s/s ; then there should be at least one scum in purple/olive/red.
i can see eliminating to flip teal but im worried that if teal is town then we just lose on the spot
i havent ruled out olive/purple being s/s-
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My point is that while in theory what blue said was valid and of course, I only actually know for certain that I am invitee, unless I completely misconstrued their post, which I don’t think I did, they don’t have any player they seem very confident on and that concerned me.In post 392, Masquerader Red wrote:
Then why didn't you object to my theorycrafting?In post 390, Masquerader Olive wrote:
Not really a fan of this post. You aren’t really taking a stand on anyone. That really isn’t an invitee way to think.In post 387, Masquerader Blue wrote:the way magenta is shading teal doesnt really feel theatrey
it is paving the way for an elimination in that pair and i dun see why he would do that unless galaxybraining?
- so if magenta/teal isnt s/s ; then there should be at least one scum in purple/olive/red.
i can see eliminating to flip teal but im worried that if teal is town then we just lose on the spot
i havent ruled out olive/purple being s/s
Blue literally just put his reads the post before too...
If by “theorycrafting”, you mean find out the tvt couple well purple posted something recently in our pt that made my invitee read on them stronger than it was. I won’t say here what it was because I don’t want to do anything to put either of us at risk for the automan mechanic.
My strongest intruder read is still teal and my strongest invitee read is still magenta but purple recently got closer with what they posted in our pt.
The reason I am the most confident on teal is because they seem to be looking for reasons to shade both me and purple.
blue, if I did misread your post, please feel free to set me straight.-
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What happened to this teal?In post 65, Masquerader Teal wrote:
I'm doubling down on "no, I'm still parsing things." I want to hear more from green and something from cyan for instance. I'm still trying to piece together the argument between you and purple but even then I want more to happen before I feel confident laying down any reads.In post 62, Masquerader Olive wrote:
I agree, we need to see more from Green, like if they actually do follow up. Any thoughts so far to who you think could be a possible intruder?In post 55, Masquerader Teal wrote:I track people by avatars so having them all be the same but colorswapped is going to be difficult for me.
Holy hell what is even going on in purple's posts
I don't think I like calling green mafia for posting just to post while being sick, I think that's an easy trap to fall for but doesn't actually tell you anything AI
Yes, and if I were an intruder, I would have lied and come up with suspicions, it wouldn't have been hard to parrot or invent some.In post 63, Masquerader Red wrote:
While that's partially fair, you've still given barely an inkling of suspicion toward anyone's alignment, good or bad. If your intent is to catch up and do so then by all means go ahead; for what it's worth, your participation can chop that fraction of the field that has barely posted down to a third.In post 60, Masquerader Teal wrote:No, I don't because the game just started and just because it's 6 days long doesn't mean it doesn't take me like 6 days to figure out where my head's at. I'm not going to lie and pretend like I know what I'm doing already when half the field has barely posted.
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In post 399, Masquerader Magenta wrote:I think it's increasingly clear that purple is not an invite and Thier flip would conf town blue at the least.
Is no one bothering to read my posts? If this didn’t have the guess mechanic, I could pretty much convince the other invutees but we would then die, so invitees are basically fucked, so gg intruders. I’m not going to waste anymore time on this game if invitees are just going to be content to hand the game over to the intruders. Vote us then and don’t blame us for the loss.If by “theorycrafting”, you mean find out the tvt couple wellpurple posted something recently in our pt that made my invitee read on them stronger than it was. I won’t say here what it was because I don’t want to do anything to put either of us at risk for the automan mechanic.-
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I realize that I’m probably being unfair because none of you have access to our pt and perhaps if I didn’t, I maybe wouldn’t know what to think of purple but I do and no way does intruder purple make the posts in our pt that they are. I am not being pocketed in there and if cyan and yellow were still in the game, I wouldn’t care but I know I’m not wrong here but you need to pay attention the most to what’s happening in your pts because intruders cannot fake the degree of genuine solving that both me and purple are doing in ours. So, I will just straight out let the cat out if the bag. I know who purple is and that is my strongest reason for invitee reading them and unfortunately that’s all I can post about that in the main thread. If you either wrongly think I’m intruder or I don’t know what I’m talking about then I don’t know what to tell you but purple doesn’t make the kinds of posts in our pt as intruder. They just don’t. I’m kicking myself also but it was me who stupidly got cyan and yellow wrong, not purple.-
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If Teal is who I think they are, their read on me is pretty much proof that they are not invitee here.In post 419, Masquerader Teal wrote:I don't see why having a gut read 8 days ago has to equate to a strong read now. Not sure what else to tell you, but things change.
VOTE: Purple/olive-
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They sound extremely invitee like in our PT. I don’t see how they’d be capable of faking all that.In post 445, Masquerader Blue wrote:In post 86, Masquerader Purple wrote:This game is won on the first elimination if we force yellow and green to pair with each other.
purple is full of shit but im ok with letting him win if olive wants to take responsbility for once in their life-
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Teal, which of us do you actually intruder read because your posts read to me like you don’t honestly care and I would expect an invitee you to actually not be trying to ram a vote on us through.
I would also like anyone to explain why teal is invitee here? What even actual solving have they even tried to do?
Also anyone critically reading my interactions with purple should be able to clearly tell we are not aligned, so then ask yourselves, why is purple so confident in their invitee read on me and also, why me, them?
I don’t want to out my identity more than I probably unfortunately already have but you can tell a lot about your partner in your pt.
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