Mini Theme 2290: Open ChatGPT - Game Over

[GrandpaMo]

i lowkey forgot this game existed. just got prodded.


tldr; im a good prompt engineer for chatgpt, so if you want chatgpt to say anything, please tell me to do so, i can do it for u.

also u can find mafia by using specific parameters. u have to basically compose an algorithem for it to find mafia, by using percentages and specific criteria, u can find mafia lol . there is some subjectiviety, but if there is usually consensus on a specific person, then that subjectivity turns into possible criteria for person

[GrandpaMo]

also can anyone give me a tldr on the game i dont feel like reading

[GrandpaMo]

also im pretty sure people who use chatgpt to follow a specific adgenda is 89 percent likely to be mafia. its just an excuse to wifom and openwolf fwiw

im not sure if anyone has done that tho

[GrandpaMo]

also looking back at the five pages of the game, im scumleaning porkens . i dont want to put my full scumcase on them yet but a lot of people who are townreading them is eh.

porkens has provided nothing useful to the game so far and just looks like mafia fluffposting, they are probably being townred because their pargraphs look like they are contributing

but if u really take the time to analyze its jsut all eh

[GrandpaMo]

just looked at the iso, im voting this

VOTE: Porkens

i also advise anyone else who is town to also take a look at porken's posts and see nothing they have contributed so far.

[GrandpaMo]

Horse shit. I’ve contributed more than you.

m8 literally read your own posts. 75 percent of them is just memes and the other 25 percent is chatgpt genreated which i would consider is not even info -- its just all rng.

posts 15 19 61 66 92 96 186 189 194 are all literally memes/no info

205 is probbly the only conribution u made which is literally nothing usefull because ur just stating obvious shit again

ur recent posts, 207 2011 and 243 are the only probably geninue posts u have made and its been like a week into the game but these posts are only in response to what people have said about u since u were being pressured so in reality its not true of ur play

the other posts i didnt mention, were all generated by chatgpt and is just rng subjectivity.

[GrandpaMo]

me pushing u is more contribution then all ur posts combined lol

[GrandpaMo]

Spare me. My posts were a lightning rod that generated the majority of content in this game so far. You are just nipping at my heels as a pet wagon while ignoring the e-2 situation completely.

can u explain more? im not nipping ur heels. i just looked at the past like 2 pages skimming thru it, and saw ur posts as eh, made me iso u and found it scum indictaive.

explain the e2 sitaution

[GrandpaMo]

There is some contradiction here, chatgpt-generated content is clearly not just random as, per your own admission, one can coach it to say wathever.

that was clearly sarcasm. sorry if it wasn't obvious. ai cannot obviously find mafia.

[GrandpaMo]

Spare me. My posts were a lightning rod that generated the majority of content in this game so far. You are just nipping at my heels as a pet wagon while ignoring the e-2 situation completely.

can u explain more? im not nipping ur heels. i just looked at the past like 2 pages skimming thru it, and saw ur posts as eh, made me iso u and found it scum indictaive.

explain the e2 sitaution

Might be a good idea to read the iso of the guy who's at e2.

just came into the game, didnt rlly look into the vcs until prokens said somehting, ill look into them more when im finished with my work

[GrandpaMo]

Imaginality has 5 votes. I had 0. You zoomed in on me because why? My posts were “eh” and I provided “no content.” You aren’t exactly looking for scum as much as (what you perceive to be) low hanging fruit.

P-edit : 50 and 61 were hilarious meta jokes about how an AI would try to look towny and call anyone who objected to that scum. I coached it into saying those things intentionally, but I think the arguments against using chat gpt (it’s terrible at games, it’s highly fallible, it’s obnoxious and vapid) are valid and not inherently scummy.

At no point was I imitating chatgpt in my writing style. I’m not 100% sure what you mean by “the second part of 179” but I copy/pasted what I got it to say verbatim.

ok i will take a look at imaginality. just because u have 0 votes doesnt mean ur not scum lol. i zoomed on u because u were the first name i saw nd and one of ur posts grabbed my attention and alerted a scumping

nd ok so ur syaing ur low hanging fruit. got it.

im not saying u cant use chatgpt but it felt like thats what u were using to use to actually base ur judgement on.

so what are ur real reads then? can u tell me what ur contribtuions are then?

[GrandpaMo]

ok here is grandpa with a hot take.

just skimmed thru imagine's iso

it is 70% way more better than porkens iso.

however, i wont be surprised if porkens is 3rd party.

i dont see the scumpings on imagine. can anyone tell me why they are e2 right now? their contributions seem reasonable.

[GrandpaMo]

Spare me. My posts were a lightning rod that generated the majority of content in this game so far. You are just nipping at my heels as a pet wagon while ignoring the e-2 situation completely.

can u explain more? im not nipping ur heels. i just looked at the past like 2 pages skimming thru it, and saw ur posts as eh, made me iso u and found it scum indictaive.

explain the e2 sitaution

Might be a good idea to read the iso of the guy who's at e2.

i also dont like this post from u . especially considering u have not mentioned imagine at all and is voting menalque rn. seems too defensive for no reason.

[GrandpaMo]

VOTE: grandpa mo

I don’t really care for imaginality!wagon, that was just to have some action, this I actually like for scum

lets go

+townping for menalque

[GrandpaMo]

its funny because i think everygame when i get prodded im always scumread as town lmao because of my multiposts and instant minority takes.

but why the vote in this case?

[GrandpaMo]

also @menalque can we like work together that one time like we did before and figure scum out ?

i missed playn wit ya bud

[GrandpaMo]

I think porkens was in many way the default option for a push bc of the chatgpt gimmick and is therefore a very easy/lazy push to make

P much the LHF argument I guess

Also I like porkens’ explanation for why he switched to normal posting and I like him for town so far, so I’m thinking that increases the odds of him being a target for scum late to the game vs scum himself who was coasting on a gimmick

this is kinda an eh take. u have to realize that i just came in the game, and not have seen anyone that point besides porkens recent post, isod it and found it scummy not because they were ai generated because many people did the same shit.. it is just the way they continued and progressed their play with it. the only contributions they did was with me and when the other person asked them questions on why they . if ur first part was in the case, then i would be pushing other people who technically has worse iso's then porken since it is fulled with chatgpt gimmicks.

also if u see a lot of people who saw porkens, they were all on the fence and tryna deceide if they were scum but never pushed them for example, imagine, this makes me seem like there higher tension for porkens to be scum. i believe i am the only one to really hard claim my scumread on them. also why does porkens claim they are low hanging fruit? possibly because they were called out on it. i dont see how this a pro town utility to just coast.

[GrandpaMo]

Oh also the push seems way overly aggro for what is there in porkens’ posts but I was mostly letting that go from what i remembered of your playstyle

(There was one other thing you did which I think is +scum but I’m trying to work out if it’s an actual tell or not so don’t wanna reveal what it is)

im still analyzing the game. if i am being completely honest, i wanted to come in a stand with a read and work it out -- which in this case, porkens happened. they told me [implied] to not look at them because they have 0 votes and you should look at the person at e2. saw their iso and if u compare the both -- porkens is worse. literally take a look for yourself. i would rather have someone that is contributing and providing an analystic approach to their reads versus someone who hasn't said virtually anything useful in the game, chatgpt or not.

[GrandpaMo]

Oh also the push seems way overly aggro for what is there in porkens’ posts but I was mostly letting that go from what i remembered of your playstyle

(There was one other thing you did which I think is +scum but I’m trying to work out if it’s an actual tell or not so don’t wanna reveal what it is)

im still analyzing the game. if i am being completely honest, i wanted to come in a stand with a read and work it out -- which in this case, porkens happened. they told me [implied] to not look at them because they have 0 votes and you should look at the person at e2. saw their iso and if u compare the both -- porkens is worse. literally take a look for yourself. i would rather have someone that is contributing and providing an analystic approach to their reads versus someone who hasn't said virtually anything useful in the game, chatgpt or not.

tldr; give me like by tonight; (around 10 hours from now) to get me a solid grasp on the game, then reevaulate me to get a fair unbaised judgment.

[GrandpaMo]

Porkens is town. Unsure on Mo and Menalque so far

Grandpa go and read this game for some scum!Porkens

-Furtive G. Lance

ugh i hate meta reading, but thx for this, i will be more analytical.

but keep in mind that this is a different style of game , but i will read

[GrandpaMo]

Porkens is town. Unsure on Mo and Menalque so far

Grandpa go and read this game for some scum!Porkens

-Furtive G. Lance

ugh i hate meta reading, but thx for this, i will be more analytical.

but keep in mind that this is a different style of game , but i will read

hmm i dont know how to feel because i am assuming u wanted me to decipher the change of playstyle,

town!prokens is usually chill, non contributive and meming.

scum!prokens has more motivation to actually try and create more contribution

[GrandpaMo]

alright im back and will start my analysis of the actual game.


i come back and i expected many posts to occur especially when i came back from a prod -- that doesn't happen, weird. instead people just finding an excuse to vote me lol.

anyways give me a sec

[GrandpaMo]

UNVOTE:

the imagineality case by defective doesnt excite me. the 4 bullet point one, you know the one

Ppl suspect imagine but there's not much being laid out, anyone care to enlighten

morning I have a very important question for you when you get back here next but you have to promise not to be mad at me for asking you

Mmm what could it be

ding ding ding! you hit the hammer right on the nail. Why do you think I wasn't so straight forward on imagine? Bloodbot and Prokens were so adament on me checking the person who was on "e2" and take a look on them.

There is nothing being laid out.

[GrandpaMo]

I'm also not loving GrandpaMo's entrance today.

Spoiler:

also looking back at the five pages of the game, im scumleaning porkens .

i dont want to put my full scumcase on them yet but a lot of people who are townreading them is eh.

porkens has provided nothing useful to the game so far and just looks like mafia fluffposting, they are probably being townred because their pargraphs look like they are contributing

but if u really take the time to analyze its jsut all eh

just looked at the iso, im voting this

VOTE: Porkens

i also advise anyone else who is town to also take a look at porken's posts and see nothing they have contributed so far.

I think porkens was in many way the default option for a push bc of the chatgpt gimmick and is therefore a very easy/lazy push to make

P much the LHF argument I guess

Also I like porkens’ explanation for why he switched to normal posting and I like him for town so far, so I’m thinking that increases the odds of him being a target for scum late to the game vs scum himself who was coasting on a gimmick

this is kinda an eh take. u have to realize that i just came in the game, and not have seen anyone that point besides porkens recent post, isod it and found it scummy not because they were ai generated because many people did the same shit.. it is just the way they continued and progressed their play with it. the only contributions they did was with me and when the other person asked them questions on why they . if ur first part was in the case, then i would be pushing other people who technically has worse iso's then porken since it is fulled with chatgpt gimmicks.

also if u see a lot of people who saw porkens, they were all on the fence and tryna deceide if they were scum but never pushed them

for example, imagine, this makes me seem like there higher tension for porkens to be scum. i believe i am the only one to really hard claim my scumread on them. also why does porkens claim they are low hanging fruit? possibly because they were called out on it. i dont see how this a pro town utility to just coast.

I'm not really sure whether these statements all fit together perfectly, particularly the two bolded ones.

I realise that I'm stretching a bit and maybe GrandpaMo just read more of the game in between those posts. I've had some empirical success with this kind of argument in the past, so I'm still gonna mention it. But basically how much GrandpaMo seems to have read of the game seems to basically morph with the point they want to make? In different parts of their posting they oscillate between:
1. others townread Porkens VS are lukewarm on Porkens and GrandpaMo is the only one who has hard pushed Porkens (which kinda requires having read the whole game to know?)
2. awareness of other people's reads VS arguing that Porkens is townread "because they look like they are contributing", which I don't think is a stance that anyone has actually had?

Spoiler:

explain the e2 sitaution

The couple examples that come to mind of people asking me to explain fairly obvious stuff and giving me busywork also come from scum.

Generally I don't think it's impossible for any of this stuff to come from town, but my best judgment is that the pattern is a bit scum-indicative, and I don't really think any post-hoc slicing and splicing can change my opinion on this. So, basically, I'm all for giving people a chance later, I'll look forward to GrandpaMo completely catching up and this is by no means a complete indictment, but the posting so far is still probably a permanent +scum mark.

-Morta

everything u highlighted is very NAI, specifically its NAI for me if you see one of my town or scum games.

" i dont want to put my full scumcase on them yet but a lot of people who are townreading them is eh."
"also if u see a lot of people who saw porkens, they were all on the fence and tryna deceide if they were scum but never pushed them"

you make it seem like these two quotes i said contradict each other while its the opposite . at that first moment i was still tryna analyze the few pages, and then that second quote, look at the context, you would see its me after engaging convo with menalque. i even provide an example. i came up with that conclusion from just looking at their iso and looking at some posts in context.

you literally admit to yourself that i might have read some more posts:
"I realise that I'm stretching a bit and maybe GrandpaMo just read more of the game in between those posts."

which i did!!! especially when a later post I said I was gonna read their iso and then ended up voting them before i engaged in that quote with menalque.

i will also give you further clarification, that i have still NOT read the full game at this point and do not not everyone's full conceptual reads and implied reasonings.

this does from my pov seems like a bit overstretching -- cuz imo nothing so far that i have said have been AI, maybe my eradatic posting style and my determinance could be a townping from ur pov, but other than that look at the followin posts in context -- and you will see my thought process alligns with what i have been doing.

[GrandpaMo]

haha ok i see where the imaigne wagon came from it came from defective agency pushing a certain adgenda and bianco voting

doctor drew just "sheeped the hydras"

and then menalque ur the fourth vote, why? you also ask a question in 204 -- what is the implied presumption?

while reading thru the game, i did not like bloodbot at all. but their posting in 210,212,and vote on 213, makes ithard. however i do not like 212 reason. menaluqe could had just been asking to ask, i do this all the time to find someone else that i perceieve as town to have reassurance.

imaginality looks like they are omgussing in a sense?

@dei ex u become the 5th vote. and u vote them because voting Kt is doing nothing. ok lol . i feel like all ur reads have been sheeps so far. especially the vote on me rn

I'm moving this as voting KT isn't really doing anything in the immediate, I assume KT will play whenever they'll play and maybe then there'll be a bit more to discuss. Mind you, Janus said they thought Imaginality didn't look too different from the previous game they were in, where they were Town, so I may have to change this again in <24 hours, but hopefully it'll do for now!

like rlly? especially when u made this quote earlier

Kitty? Towny? He hasn't said anything new, his only reads were basically parroting thread consensus.
I need to look more into imaginality but for now I'm actually going to VOTE: KittyTacky.

nd u talk about me having this type of posting style LOL

Porkens response to accusations is scummy but I'm not gonna rehash what Titus said.

this from kitty seems to programmed imo

this puts porkens ( i think this is a 3rd party role), kitty, bloodbot, and dei in the bottom 4

with bloodbot being a definite scumlean

there has been nothing useful thru out this entire game funny enough which makes me think mafia is probably in the low post counts

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Bloodb0t

ill have my vote on u now

[GrandpaMo]

Bloodbot and Prokens were so adament on me checking the person who was on "e2" and take a look on them.

Sorry, I was feeling too snarky atm, mea culpa.

might be confbias, but this is a +scum post.

??? why would u say that?

[GrandpaMo]

literally got prodded and now i have almost the highest post count yall r hilarious

[GrandpaMo]

Cause I felt it was too snarky and regretted posting it. I posted it more on impulse than anything.

so who do u scumread then? cuz from my pov that implied that u wanted imagine to be out.

[GrandpaMo]

I was more coming at it just wanting to hear more about imaginality, my read on him was/is still null. I've only given your posts a cursory glance btw.

I mean I do suspect Titus but there's not much to go on. It does fit with your theory of lurkscums.

This game deserves a bit more of my attention and I might do a whole readthrough by the end of the day, if not then I will tomorrow. atm I kinda scumread DEM too but this is a very lazy take, subject to change. Kinda suprised nobody has voted Menalque either but yeah I don't have much more to offer right now.

what theory of lurkscums?

i had no theory on that. people not posting does not equal lurking lol

ill explain more on that later, when i hear more on this specific player to confirm what i had thought.

so, in conclusion u dont have no one as scum?

[GrandpaMo]

UNVOTE:

I don't like the last posts of Blood. The Titus comment looks appeasing. Also the comment on Mena is just weird -- @blood, what relevance do you think the absence of votes has? Do you think there is some blatant reason why people should be voting there but yet haven't?

VOTE: bloodb0t

+townping

we are on the same wavelengh with the line of reasoning that comes from a townmindset. its more of a "since im thinking this and im town, you probably are town too."

[GrandpaMo]

I was more coming at it just wanting to hear more about imaginality, my read on him was/is still null. I've only given your posts a cursory glance btw.

I mean I do suspect Titus but there's not much to go on. It does fit with your theory of lurkscums.

This game deserves a bit more of my attention and I might do a whole readthrough by the end of the day, if not then I will tomorrow. atm I kinda scumread DEM too but this is a very lazy take, subject to change. Kinda suprised nobody has voted Menalque either but yeah I don't have much more to offer right now.

I don't really object to your sus. Not lurking but I didn't vla. I didn't expect to get my ass kicked at work. It's catching up with me.

fwiw I think also I scumread titus that one game where i became angry with u lol because I thought u were lurking . I think u flipped town

[GrandpaMo]

Yeah that’s not going anwywhere and I think you know that. Titus, you are being so obvious.

I’ll do a readslist sometime tonight or tomorrow

r u implying u scumread Titus?

what is up with everyone giving cryptic ass reads

[GrandpaMo]

Yeah that’s not going anwywhere and I think you know that. Titus, you are being so obvious.

I’ll do a readslist sometime tonight or tomorrow

are you implying you scumresding Titus?

what is up with everyone and these cryptic ass reads

[GrandpaMo]

sorry for double post

[GrandpaMo]

bianco + GMo push on me gives me +town for both of them because my posts have been awful.

can we vote this?

[GrandpaMo]

88 DEM +town

102 Imaginality +scum

I'm at p200 right now and I am starting to see why people were so sus on porkens. I was blinded by lulz. And yeah, porken's first nonGPT post 205 does look pretty scummy like just trying to see what sticks.

****

bianco + GMo push on me gives me +town for both of them because my posts have been awful.

can we vote this?

+ town

my town is DEM, bianco, Drew, DA, Mo

can we pls vote this. this sounds like flailing scum

[GrandpaMo]

also i will probably role reveal my role at the end of this day because i feel like it necessary for town to know what my role is to get perspective on the rest of the game.

[GrandpaMo]

Then why did you see the need to say that?

Can you name your top SRs?

also i will probably role reveal my role at the end of this day because i feel like it necessary for town to know what my role is to get perspective on the rest of the game.

Really theatrical statement right there, quite the suspense. Is there a reason you actually need to wait till the end of the day?

lol i said my reason-- it will progress the game. Im just waiting for people who haven't talked since my prod

[GrandpaMo]

I agree that I look like flailing scum and that it makes sense for Mo to think that.

I wanted to hear from imaginality on TRing me but he's my top scum right now, followed by Porkens. Slight scum on titus and narrowparking.

so ur town reading people who scumread u and scumreading people who Townread u . got it

[GrandpaMo]

I'm townreading the 2 people who started getting on my case after I started posting in a distracted/lazy state. That's also why I was saying my posts were bad, because I felt I wasn't giving this game enough attention. I'm probably not the best judge of what is a good or bad post but I felt bad about them.

I'm also townreading Drew and DA who were townreading me right? So your characterization isn't entirely accurate.

so people u are twmownreading because u agree with their consensus on you that you aren't posting . thats ur being scumresd in the first place lol

[GrandpaMo]

This is also a mischaracterization and I'm no longer townreading you.

that wasn't a mischaracterization . that was me talking bout the reads on u . nothing had to do with u . I believe u misunderstood me

[GrandpaMo]

It's not that I wasn't posting, it's that I felt to content of my posts were bad because they were made without much care.

yea u are saying what I said. people are voting u because u admitted that . well atleast I am. it shows ur level of awareness to the game. scum usually do this to earn town credit so people can be like oh if he is self aware about his posts being bad then he couldn't be scum doing that.

and that reaction u just did was just horrible. like now ur not twonrwsding me because of something u misunderstood about and openly admitted about?

come on how is this not obvious scum, @town who sees this. pls tell me im not the only one.

[GrandpaMo]

I'm townreading the 2 people who started getting on my case after I started posting in a distracted/lazy state. That's also why I was saying my posts were bad, because I felt I wasn't giving this game enough attention. I'm probably not the best judge of what is a good or bad post but I felt bad about them.

I'm also townreading Drew and DA who were townreading me right? So your characterization isn't entirely accurate.

so people u are twmownreading because u agree with their consensus on you that you aren't posting . thats ur being scumresd in the first place lol

oh I meant bad posting but same point and technically same thing (not posting anything good) that shouldn't have changed anyway nor ur read should have changed on me since it still had the same meaning when u just change one word .

[GrandpaMo]

It's not that I wasn't posting, it's that I felt

the

content of my posts were bad because they were made without much care.

fixed

how does it feel to be under pressure ?

[GrandpaMo]

so people u are twmownreading because u agree with their consensus on you that you aren't posting

This is false. I townread people who I thought were somehow picking up on the quality of my posts being poor because of lack of effort. Never once have I mentioned quantity. Hence mischaracterization.

Pressure is fine and what I expected, I'm okay with being limmed D1.

bruh regardless quality and quanity its the same point m8

there are still people that you are townreading because you agree with their consensus on what you feel like.

its the same self awareness that a scum might look out for.

see and now you did the number 1 AtE play "im okay with being limmed D1" -- you fell right into my AtE trap

now no one is going to take you serious

[GrandpaMo]

quick question, how long have u been playing mafia for u? and is this an alt or ?

[GrandpaMo]

You may think it's the same point, but I don't. So it's a mischaracterization to say that was the point I was making because I don't agree with you.

This is my new main you could say, I have 2 other completed games on the first account I made, which I will never reveal or use again.

there are still people that you are townreading because you agree with their consensus on what you feel like.

I don't understand what you mean, can you explain in more detail?

now no one is going to take you serious

Okay?????

im meta reading u rn and ur playing very different .ur are more aggressive as town in pushing certain adgendas.

https://imgur.com/a/fZeQrl9

i think this is hilarious

if ur town -- im like teaching u from ur pov -- dont act hostile its ok <3

if ur scum -- im calling u out for being ate.

i already explained why its the same point -- it shows your self awareness of not posting / lack of quality

I don't understand what you mean, can you explain in more detail?

u already understood this quote... and u obviouisly did because u replied to it and this is the reason why we are having this arugment in the first place.......... ....... ..

[GrandpaMo]

now im tryna decipher if this ur playstyle or not, but the more i read into ur meta, the more i think ur scum even tho im already hard scumreading u before.

i was giving u grace that u might be new and that this type of ate comes from a lost town or dismotivated, but i feel like ur doing this on purpose to earn town credit especially when u were at a bad spot. thats the motivation -- u have not really been pressured in any of ur other games, and u finally being pressured results in a basic scum mentality to result into ate, to want town people to vote u out or to scumread u because ur not giving quality material etc.

[GrandpaMo]

You may think it's the same point, but I don't. So it's a mischaracterization to say that was the point I was making because I don't agree with you.

This is my new main you could say, I have 2 other completed games on the first account I made, which I will never reveal or use again.

there are still people that you are townreading because you agree with their consensus on what you feel like.

I don't understand what you mean, can you explain in more detail?

now no one is going to take you serious

Okay?????

im meta reading u rn and ur playing very different .ur are more aggressive as town in pushing certain adgendas.

https://imgur.com/a/fZeQrl9

i think this is hilarious

if ur town -- im like teaching u from ur pov -- dont act hostile its ok <3

if ur scum -- im calling u out for being ate.

i already explained why its the same point -- it shows your self awareness of not posting / lack of quality

I don't understand what you mean, can you explain in more detail?

u already understood this quote... and u obviouisly did because u replied to it and this is the reason why we are having this arugment in the first place.......... ....... ..

fun fact did u know t3 and andante were my first ever two friends on this site, ik them too well!! thats why i find that post hilarious . u pointing that out is also ironic because u dont do that ever here.

[GrandpaMo]

I'm a noob, maybe nobody should have ever taken me serious. :shrug: I don't mind if they do or don't. I'm just playing my game and learning as I go.

I decided to change my approach because I got burnt out in my previous games so I'm conserving my energy so I don't have to take another long break.

I don't mean any hostility. Just correcting you where I think you were wrong about me. It's all good bro I just think you're being a little scummy from my newbie perspective, maybe I'm making mistakes but I gotta make them to learn from them.

I'm not demotivated, maybe you were getting that impression because of the distraction I was talking about earlier. I'm having fun.

I was pressured hard in my first 2 games, limmed early and I won anyway, hence being fine with getting limmed early here.

I really feel like you're not being fair but that's fine, this is a mafia game and you might be scum trying stuff. Or we just have a misunderstanding but I am reading you scum. It's all good bro.

im a noob too its ok.

im only pressuring u because u resemble a lot like how i played back then.

this is how i usually play -- its funny because u were townreaidng me hard and now im pressuring u , reaction testing u, and even tried a ATE trap question on u, and u fell for it. this me as town tryna figure someone out.

me implying u were demotivated comes from the fact that u have stated multiple times that u was "distracted/lazy" and people wanting to vote u.

im trying my best to fair to u -- there is slight bias and thats because i do WANT this game to be moving, and so finding u as scumlean then pressuring u was the only thing to get the game moving

u see how i came into the game and started pressuring people instantly porkens and u ? this is my townplay . i want people to get more perspective on these people and what best way to do it by reaction testing and seeing their pressure handleing skill.

im not misunderstanding u nor ur misunderstanding me. i dont think there is anything for us to misunderstand here. u called me town because i was scumreading u for the right reasons. i continue to reaffirm that. u then call me scum because u think i was saying something different. i keep telling u what i mean and meant. i am still scumreading u for the original reason that u sounded like flailing scum and ur recent posts have been scummy. do u understanad? or do u need more clarification?

[GrandpaMo]

Or you may disagree that I was pressured hard, but I felt like I was.

were u ever scum? if so, can u link me to a game to read. also link me to a game where u are town which is a fair evaluation of ur playstyle that should slowly resembling this one. explain what ur town playstyle is

[GrandpaMo]

Well this 393 seems townie but what do I know lol^^^

Things are getting clearer.... If you wanna explain more go ahead but hopefully our interaction is somehow pro town for everyone, I don't want to fill the game with noise. I guess this game is slow in general so meh.

Pedit: I've never been scum. Even in my secret account of shame. So no linking to that account. This is basically my only account, never had any others.


I mean, I've decided to deliberately change so I don't feel like I have an established playstyle, I'm trying to develop one. So I can't link you to any games that represent my "current playstyle" even if I had one. These are all my games:

viewtopic.php?t=89796
viewtopic.php?t=89804
viewtopic.php?t=90000

+ another that I replaced out of super early and I haven't read it
viewtopic.php?t=89819



I guess I feel like I'm better at reading people by tone and what I call "motive", it's hard to explain, and when I explain things people seem to get confused.

My previous games I felt like I put in a lot of effort but was misunderstood and ended up burnt out so what was the point? I'm trying to learn how to be more efficient with my energy.

ok thx lol . u literally just explained how I was back in the day so ima back off u for now and im probably gonna reevaluate u after . im at a restaurant rn

I def see where u are coming from tho. I was exactly like u. tryharding in the game trying to earn town credit as town . even with my first scum game that I remember sorta-- I was being tryhard . I then gave up because I realized people like N_M (sorry mm) and T3 sometimes went on about their days and still were being townread. I sorta don't like playing like that but I adapted that playstyle a lil bit and wanted to have fun so I become energetic and thats where my signature comes from haha that I tried that in .

I want u tbh to do whatever ur mind tells u . if u are naturally a tryhsrd person, do not be scared to let do of that meta. if u are naturally just a person who is laid back and don't feel like reading or posting long wall posts that I used to do, then don't! adapt a unique playstylr that u have fun with . that's how u make the game fun.


where do u think my energetic posting and reaction testing and instant claiming, Wifoming, trolling, comes from? it's all NAI to me because I adapted in both my scum and town Meta and I just wanted to have fun and make something fun out of a text game

[GrandpaMo]

To you know actually answer

I mindmelded with you at some points and more often than not but not perfect I like what y'all have said.

Just don't fight.

Mama Bear doesn't like it when her babies fight

ok mom

[GrandpaMo]

VOTE: Porkens

im actually willing to pressure this slot and go back to it since I backed off for some reason(I'll have to go back and see why once I'm back)

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Porkens

[GrandpaMo]

Good now hug it out a vote Porkens

okie. come here my little sibling *hug* @bloodbot

[GrandpaMo]

UNVOTE:

[GrandpaMo]

UNVOTE:

I have been waiting for both of us to be online at the same time.

Just to say hi.

r u a hydra?

[GrandpaMo]

UNVOTE:

I have been waiting for both of us to be online at the same time.

Just to say hi.

r u a hydra?

nvm ur not. but hello. what do u need? u don't say hi 435 posts in

[GrandpaMo]

UNVOTE:

I have been waiting for both of us to be online at the same time.

Just to say hi.

lp

r u a hydra?

nvm ur not. but hello. what do u need? u don't say hi 435 posts in

wait i see u scumread Titus, why is that?

[GrandpaMo]

Maybe they can sense I'm about to call them lurkscum?

- Nyx

all 4 of us?

whose alt r u

[GrandpaMo]

I don’t see the use in fully evaluating this slot until after the promised role reveal, but their ISO feels towny enough.

this is an eh statement.....

[GrandpaMo]

UNVOTE:

I have been waiting for both of us to be online at the same time.

Just to say hi.

r u a hydra?

nvm ur not. but hello. what do u need? u don't say hi 435 posts in

Well jeez, fuck me for trying to be polite.

Also, I should take you out to pasture with Titus for thinking I am a hydra.

I just haven't interacted with you yet, maybe understand why you and bloodshot having being going back and forth so much. Why you keep going back to Porkens(and as I have said, don't get the heat on Porky).

So again, hi.

Pre Edit: Protection of Imaginalty with the only defense being they are mis-elim bait, and offering no more explanation. But mainly mad that I I didn't want to sheep her anymore?? And used that as a way to make me look bad, even though I have made that joke before in games with her, and even alluded to it when I made said post. And even if she thought it was serious and missed the reference(I get it, has been a bit since we played together), she said she didn't want to be sheeped yet........then claimed I made some 180 spin on my read of her when I stopped sheeping here.

I don't care how high she is, even if a random player you never heard of said they would sheep you.....do you take them seriously? If you do take them seriously wouldn't you pressure them right away for that, since it would be a bit odd? If you get the jokiness of the sheep, why would you call them out as she done when said person then makes a case for them.

Just doesn't make sense how Titus has acted, and personally she knows how I can be and thinks that other people who haven't played with me would jump on me if she just lit the spark a bit.

LOL IM SORRY I KNEW U WERE GONNA CALL OUT MY HOSTILITY

im usually nice i just wanted to act cool in front of u; it was lowkey sarcasm

but hi!! <33

[GrandpaMo]

Why you keep going back to Porkens

their whole iso seems to be programmed from mafia pov

they meme throughout the game > dont contribute > town pressures > finally contributes > town lays off [because of imagine wagon i believe] > i come in and pressure > porkens changes entire playstyle > gets pressured more > now no update from porkens.

[GrandpaMo]

Maybe they can sense I'm about to call them lurkscum?

- Nyx

all 4 of us?

whose alt r u

i don't think ive ever played with u

r u sure

[GrandpaMo]

Maybe they can sense I'm about to call them lurkscum?

- Nyx

all 4 of us?

whose alt r u

i don't think ive ever played with u

r u sure

because i have played with you

[GrandpaMo]

Pre Edit: Protection of Imaginalty with the only defense being they are mis-elim bait, and offering no more explanation. But mainly mad that I I didn't want to sheep her anymore?? And used that as a way to make me look bad, even though I have made that joke before in games with her, and even alluded to it when I made said post. And even if she thought it was serious and missed the reference(I get it, has been a bit since we played together), she said she didn't want to be sheeped yet........then claimed I made some 180 spin on my read of her when I stopped sheeping here.

I don't care how high she is, even if a random player you never heard of said they would sheep you.....do you take them seriously? If you do take them seriously wouldn't you pressure them right away for that, since it would be a bit odd? If you get the jokiness of the sheep, why would you call them out as she done when said person then makes a case for them.

Just doesn't make sense how Titus has acted, and personally she knows how I can be and thinks that other people who haven't played with me would jump on me if she just lit the spark a bit.

idk see the point of this ? what narrative r u tryning to push im confused here. give me a tldr.

[GrandpaMo]

I don’t see the use in fully evaluating this slot until after the promised role reveal, but their ISO feels towny enough.

this is an eh statement.....

I guess I understand why, but I stand by that statement. I'm assuming you're not vanilla, so your role reveal is probably going to have an impact on how I read you. If it's confirmable or strongly AI, then I don't see why I'd want to put work into analyzing your slot until then. If it's not, then I can go back and re-evaluate. I'm not trying to have the whole game solved today.

- Nyx

u are reading way too much into it.

[GrandpaMo]

How was I supposed to read it?

- Nyx

exactly how someone else read it. keep in the back of your mind. once I do it, you will get it. if I don't do it, call me out on it. just don't make it into a big deal thats all

[GrandpaMo]

Pre Edit: Protection of Imaginalty with the only defense being they are mis-elim bait, and offering no more explanation. But mainly mad that I I didn't want to sheep her anymore?? And used that as a way to make me look bad, even though I have made that joke before in games with her, and even alluded to it when I made said post. And even if she thought it was serious and missed the reference(I get it, has been a bit since we played together), she said she didn't want to be sheeped yet........then claimed I made some 180 spin on my read of her when I stopped sheeping here.

I don't care how high she is, even if a random player you never heard of said they would sheep you.....do you take them seriously? If you do take them seriously wouldn't you pressure them right away for that, since it would be a bit odd? If you get the jokiness of the sheep, why would you call them out as she done when said person then makes a case for them.

Just doesn't make sense how Titus has acted, and personally she knows how I can be and thinks that other people who haven't played with me would jump on me if she just lit the spark a bit.

idk see the point of this ? what narrative r u tryning to push im confused here. give me a tldr.

I have said before I would sheep Titus, I allude to that this game, I then back off that statement for reasons, she says I pulled a 180.

But the main point I was making is that she knows how I play, and she knows I say I would sheep her mainly as a joke, so it doesn't make sense for her to be mad when I stop sheeping her and vote her. And also doesn't make sense if she doesn't remember that, because why take me sheeping you as serious if you don't remember the reference? And why not apply pressure to me when I make to original post about sheeping you?

The tldr of the tldr is, she is being incredibly disingenuous.

ill read this later becasuse this is actually intersting

[GrandpaMo]

And even the shade she just threw at me.

She just throws it out there in the ether, hoping it will stick and someone will start questioning me.

No explanation of what she is doing, no accountability for her actions when called out, no real content provided, and no real town motivation from her.

Pre Edit: Why does Grandpo seem like the 'I will bully you until you accept my reads' type?

what i bully me no bully <3

[GrandpaMo]

How was I supposed to read it?

- Nyx

exactly how someone else read it. keep in the back of your mind. once I do it, you will get it. if I don't do it, call me out on it. just don't make it into a big deal thats all

I don't feel like I'm making it into a big deal, but alright.

- Nyx

ur not getting my hint haha . its ok

[GrandpaMo]

I agree with all the points made in 468, especially about the buddying thing, the whole "you remind me of me" thing seemed unnecessary. Another thing I don't get is why he brought up his friendship with T3 and Andante

I think GM is just bad at arguing fairly, not sure what to read from that point, could just be part of his personality.

Also I forgot about his promised role reveal during my argument with him, maybe I would have given him more grace for bad arguing in light of that. I agree with the idea of shelving a read on him until the role reveal. 455 and the lead up to it seems weird because I think DEM's approach is totally reasonable.

i brought up t3 and andante because they were in the game with you. i was relating to them since now they have improved significantly and show the contrast between u and their playstyle.

u calling me bad at arguing is a very weird statement. we werent arguing imo

[GrandpaMo]

I think GM is just bad at arguing fairly, not sure what to read from that point, could just be part of his personality.

It's probably just his playstyle.
Though, I've only played with him like once (from memory) and he seemed to be the sort who is really confident in his reads.
~Janus

ding ding ding. i try not to be confident sometimes because ik sometimes im wrong.

thats why i try to understand other people

[GrandpaMo]

can we stop making up different wagons

can we focus on either porkens or bloodbot. porkens name keeps being thrown out as scumpings but no one is pushing them frfr

[GrandpaMo]

I don't especially like how GrandpaMo was "at the end of today I'm gonna tell you stuff that town NEED to know" and then more recently "oh it's nothing important not a big deal" but I don't think there's any value in pressing on it now.


Re. my Titus read I feel like she might be soft defending me maybe partly to get me on side and also to set up a "told you so, listen to me instead of going for easy wagons" to have more sway on future days when I flip town if I get limmed.

She feels different this game to the last I was in with her (where she was town) but that could be due to various factors (our roles that game, the fact she was sparring with Mathblade in particular, out of game stuff) so I don't place enough weight on the difference to make a meta case. It just feels less reassuring than it would if she felt the same tonewise.

Fairish. I am at idgaf. Let's go after scummy people.

narrow parking exists

-Mr. Glance

Convince me he's possible partnered with Drew. I don't see it based on recent posting unless the "not yet" post is a post meant for a PT which is stretch even if they are partners.

I'm townreading the Doc. Baffled that you're so tunnelled already as to be pre-flipping every other player based on a scumread.

-Mr. Glance

pedit: GrandpaMo, do you TR narrow parking? I townread Porkens

whats the case on narrow parking? other than they had bad reads , they were just voted randomly and someone else sheeped them .

[GrandpaMo]

WAIT I MISSED A WHOLE PAGE OF INFO LOL hol up let me catch up

[GrandpaMo]

@KT How do you feel about Mo's announcement of a role announcement? Is that factoring into your town read of him and what do you think is the purpose/benefit of it?

bru can yall pls stop talking bout it LMAO

like is it not obvious?? i obviously dont want this to be out there just in case mafia does something -- its sort of a bait thing im doing.

just back off it now. i have not forgotten about it. i will do it when its necessary to do so. on that page when i said that, someone said it could be a possible trap / bait for mafia. so lets take that into consideration and please stop bringing it up -- it is very unncessary for u to keep bringing it up since it is not going to progress the game at all. just focus on it when i actually do it. u still on it is eh

[GrandpaMo]

I don't especially like how GrandpaMo was "at the end of today I'm gonna tell you stuff that town NEED to know" and then more recently "oh it's nothing important not a big deal" but I don't think there's any value in pressing on it now.


Re. my Titus read I feel like she might be soft defending me maybe partly to get me on side and also to set up a "told you so, listen to me instead of going for easy wagons" to have more sway on future days when I flip town if I get limmed.

She feels different this game to the last I was in with her (where she was town) but that could be due to various factors (our roles that game, the fact she was sparring with Mathblade in particular, out of game stuff) so I don't place enough weight on the difference to make a meta case. It just feels less reassuring than it would if she felt the same tonewise.

Fairish. I am at idgaf. Let's go after scummy people.

narrow parking exists

-Mr. Glance

Convince me he's possible partnered with Drew. I don't see it based on recent posting unless the "not yet" post is a post meant for a PT which is stretch even if they are partners.

I'm townreading the Doc. Baffled that you're so tunnelled already as to be pre-flipping every other player based on a scumread.

-Mr. Glance

pedit: GrandpaMo, do you TR narrow parking? I townread Porkens

haha nvm i see the case on narrow lol i just read their iso and reread our interaction .

i can see narrow being scumlean. im open to that or bloodbot but bloodbot could just be townnewb

idk. the case on porkens comes from confbias tbh and also like people are saying they are scumming porkens because of the chatgpt discussiojn but its really not that . i reread the iso from their other game where they were scum and i see the difference but at the same time idk . ill still have porkens up for discussion

but i see narrow parking

VOTE: narrow parking

[GrandpaMo]

do u think scum is in the low poster or high poster sheme

i thought they are a low poster group especially considering the game has not being moved naturally. it has to be forced multiple times from people hedging at different times.

i feel like this game is a little unfair due to the amount of hydras because i feel like no one has called them out frfr and thats because their contribution comes from different people and therefor they could easily just take control of the game since of much influence. but its ok because i see the town alligned mindset where they could be helping town.

but there is always that probablity and tbh im not gonna really focus on u yall until later . ur a slot that gets naturally solved once the natural progressions of a mafia game occur. if u are to be mafia then you picking on lowhanging fruit and low posters would be obvious as a strat especially considering they flip as town.

so tldr; we can focus on the ones that havent contributed and are scummy in terms of context. then focus on the mid-high posters who have contributed to at least what titus have contributed imo

[GrandpaMo]

im not a fan of the game state

[GrandpaMo]

Okey-dokey. On mobile so not pretty.

Town:
Drew - we lose if scum
Dei Ex - see above
Def Age -see above
Biancospino -vibes

Iffy:
MT - kinda detail obsessed early on a hit vacant at times focuses on easy to talk about things
Imag - started out kinda waffles but I don’t hate more recent posts
Menalque - nothing outstandingly town or scum, kinda just there. Tinfoil hat theory with Grandpamo.
Gpmo - super loosely gooses and happy to luck kinda sus kinda endearing
Titus - rough like gravel. Third party stench. Kinda omgus on my part hard to be objective.

Scumlean:
KT - really empty not an effort to scumhunt
BB - weird ATE reminds me of noobscum
NP - pops in and out not scumhunting just narrowly keeping pace

WHEW, thank you thank you no need to applaud.

this is a fine elim for today:
VOTE: Narrow Parking

yo this is an actual good readlist. i mess with that. we are on like the same wavelenght on a lot of the people here -- this makes me townlean u more

[GrandpaMo]

Town:
Drew - we lose if scum
Dei Ex - see above
Def Age -see above
Biancospino -vibes

haha to be more specific, this is the people that i hjad in mind when making the lowpost/high post post lol

[GrandpaMo]

Someone E-1 and we can get a claim and make some progress

-Mr. Glance

yes yes sounds good, finally some action going on! @bloodbot, vote narrow parking for u. retrospectivly, ur titus vote looks like a sheep and an excuse to not vote narrow parking

but do it

[GrandpaMo]

BB - weird ATE reminds me of noobscum

pls pls expand on this. i REALLY need reassurance so im not going crazy that this is exacly how i played as scum, when i first got it.


so i can have them on a hard scumread. someone else said that this remind them of noobtown and not noobscum and that just was a like a bullet shot to me because i swear thats how newbscum plays from my pov especially when i was scum

[GrandpaMo]

NP - pops in and out not scumhunting just narrowly keeping pace

how have i not been scumhunting??

i feel like town in this pos after being pressured would actually try to explain more on why that isnt true. im not to sure

[GrandpaMo]

do u think scum is in the low poster or high poster sheme

i thought they are a low poster group especially considering the game has not being moved naturally. it has to be forced multiple times from people hedging at different times.

i feel like this game is a little unfair due to the amount of hydras because i feel like no one has called them out frfr and thats because their contribution comes from different people and therefor they could easily just take control of the game since of much influence. but its ok because i see the town alligned mindset where they could be helping town.

but there is always that probablity and tbh im not gonna really focus on u yall until later . ur a slot that gets naturally solved once the natural progressions of a mafia game occur. if u are to be mafia then you picking on lowhanging fruit and low posters would be obvious as a strat especially considering they flip as town.

so tldr; we can focus on the ones that havent contributed and are scummy in terms of context. then focus on the mid-high posters who have contributed to at least what titus have contributed imo

Agreed on this. Partially because gamestate and partially because I scumread Kitty and NP.

Who's the "you" in this post?

- Nyx

i was speaking to defective initially since i was responding to a post from earlier to them and defective was in mind, but then looking back at it, can be answered by anyone

[GrandpaMo]

How

have

you been scumhunting?

176, 214, 253, 434, 437, 468

like wat?

NP - pops in and out not scumhunting just narrowly keeping pace

how have i not been scumhunting??

i feel like town in this pos after being pressured would actually try to explain more on why that isnt true. im not to sure

obviously i have to ask him for clarification before i respond bro

im sorry i thought more 20+ mins was enouigh time for u to have responded .

but those posts arent really scumhunting. like u ask the questions but u never follow up. or u make the reads but u never explain them . like why havent u push anyone yet if u are scumhunting? why havent u said oh this person and this person is scum im pushing them or im voting them? do u even have anyone as a townread and explained them? whats ur readlist "bro"

pedit: is that a bet? @bloodbot vote rn u wont :p

[GrandpaMo]

pedit: is that a bet? @bloodbot vote rn u wont :p

hammer me then
VOTE: narrow parking

but those posts arent really scumhunting. like u ask the questions but u never follow up. or u make the reads but u never explain them . like why havent u push anyone yet if u are scumhunting? why havent u said oh this person and this person is scum im pushing them or im voting them? do u even have anyone as a townread and explained them? whats ur readlist "bro"

its just not my style mane

i don't think anything u just posted is town indicative, in fact spamming superfluous questions until someones E-1 and then declaring to have sorted them seems more to me like scum info play to me.

and im not posting a readlist

bruh unvote rn

RIGHT NOW. GRANDDADDY MO SAYS TO UNVOTE!!

i can use the same argument against u then -- sorry, thats just how my playstyle is! in fact, I have been doing this posting style since the beginning of the game. it is necessary, because u obviously answered my questions haha. like all u could have told me who u scumread? u didnt have to do no readlist -- it was just a suggestion.

[GrandpaMo]

also i think i do know u... "sadge"

[GrandpaMo]

VC 1.13

Grandpa Mo (1)-

Menalque

KittyTacky (0)-

Morning Tweet (0)-

Dei Ex Machina (0)-

Defective Agency (1)-

imaginality

Doctor Drew (0)-

narrow parking (6)-

Defective Agency, Dei Ex Machina, biancospino, Grandpa Mo, Porkens, narrow parking

(E-1)

Titus (1)-

Doctor Drew

Porkens (3)-

KittyTacky, Titus, Bloodb0t

Menalque (0)-

imaginalty (0)-

Bloodb0t (0)-

biancospino (0)-

Not Voting (1)-

Morning Tweet

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to instantly eliminate.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2023-02-27 02:00:00)

- Feb 27th 02:00 GMT

HAMMER THIS SCUM!!!

u softed pr and u havent claimed and resulted in self voting??? BLOOD BOT U WILL EARN TOWN CRED IF U VOTE THIS. SO I AM DOING U A FAVOR AND TO VOTE THIS .

before you do i will now role reveal!!!!

i am just a regular villager role! now, i did want to initially say this RR because it is in fact useful to the town that there are vanila villager roles in play here that chatgpt decides or that mod probably had to put in to balance. but it was also 2ndly used to bait . Bloodbot looks the worst so fwiw i say lets look at them tmr.

i will most likely die tonight -- so pls do me a favor and get blood bot out and follow the poe of Porkens <3

[GrandpaMo]

This will 100% flip scum by the way, so whoever wants town cred I believe you should move forward right away!

[GrandpaMo]

Porkens (3)- KittyTacky, Titus, Bloodb0t

also i find this hilarious.

[GrandpaMo]

ok lol

Any last words scum?

[GrandpaMo]

Yelp
UNVOTE: narrow parking
-Morta

NO WHAT R U DOING . PLLSSSS LITERALLY GET ME TMR IF IM WRONG BUT THIS WILL FLIP SCUMM PLSSSSS

[GrandpaMo]

@narrow parking
My case on you isn't that you aren't scumhunting at all, but that you're really only doing enough to not get prodded.
It's so easy to just pop in and make posts like 176, 214, 253, 434 to look like you're doing something. Anybody can do that. There's very little effort there to actually sort people. I don't know how 437 is an attempt at scumhunting. 463 is longer and does involve more effort, but it's really just interpreting a post without actually concluding much about GM's alignment (someone tell me if I'm misunderstanding that post though).
I'm not exactly experienced, but every time I've seen this type of play, it's been from scum.

- Nyx

NYX CONVINCE UR BUDDY PLSS THIS NEEDS TO FLIP ITS TOO LATE

[GrandpaMo]

ok lol

Any last words scum?

get better

[GrandpaMo]

@narrow parking
My case on you isn't that you aren't scumhunting at all, but that you're really only doing enough to not get prodded.
It's so easy to just pop in and make posts like 176, 214, 253, 434 to look like you're doing something. Anybody can do that. There's very little effort there to actually sort people. I don't know how 437 is an attempt at scumhunting. 463 is longer and does involve more effort, but it's really just interpreting a post without actually concluding much about GM's alignment (someone tell me if I'm misunderstanding that post though).
I'm not exactly experienced, but every time I've seen this type of play, it's been from scum.

- Nyx

NYX CONVINCE UR BUDDY PLSS THIS NEEDS TO FLIP ITS TOO LATE

I agree this needs to flip, just need a minute.

- Nyx

ok u need to trust me . im like999% confident

pedit: what is that??

[GrandpaMo]

@narrow parking
My case on you isn't that you aren't scumhunting at all, but that you're really only doing enough to not get prodded.
It's so easy to just pop in and make posts like 176, 214, 253, 434 to look like you're doing something. Anybody can do that. There's very little effort there to actually sort people. I don't know how 437 is an attempt at scumhunting. 463 is longer and does involve more effort, but it's really just interpreting a post without actually concluding much about GM's alignment (someone tell me if I'm misunderstanding that post though).
I'm not exactly experienced, but every time I've seen this type of play, it's been from scum.

- Nyx

NYX CONVINCE UR BUDDY PLSS THIS NEEDS TO FLIP ITS TOO LATE

I agree this needs to flip, just need a minute.

- Nyx

ok u need to trust me . im like999% confident

pedit: what is that??

I was kind of talking to Aisa there, but DoP is a game where I made a jester of myself, got hardpushed by Andante (and everyone else lol) in much the same manner that you're pushing NP now, and self-hammered as town 24 hours into D1. This situation is kind of reminding me of that, and it's giving me a slight existential crisis. Idk. Like, all the evidence points towards scum!NP but I have this (probably irrational) paranoia about the whole thing.

- Nyx

just do it . uwill thank me later.

[GrandpaMo]

trust me. i am pushing because of something else. yes i just gave u hint. now just hurry and voteeee

[GrandpaMo]

pedit: is that a bet? @bloodbot vote rn u wont :p

hammer me then
VOTE: narrow parking

but those posts arent really scumhunting. like u ask the questions but u never follow up. or u make the reads but u never explain them . like why havent u push anyone yet if u are scumhunting? why havent u said oh this person and this person is scum im pushing them or im voting them? do u even have anyone as a townread and explained them? whats ur readlist "bro"

its just not my style mane

i don't think anything u just posted is town indicative, in fact spamming superfluous questions until someones E-1 and then declaring to have sorted them seems more to me like scum info play to me.

and im not posting a readlist

bruh unvote rn

RIGHT NOW. GRANDDADDY MO SAYS TO UNVOTE!!

This will 100% flip scum by the way, so whoever wants town cred I believe you should move forward right away!

Why did you say these two things a short amount of time apart from each other?
-Morta

i just hate the act of selfvoting. regardless of allignment even if confirmed as scum, i will still tell people to unvote. its just such a ugh way of moving the game forward. regardless of ur allignment u should never self vote because ur hurting others not just urself.

[GrandpaMo]

NOW VOTE

[GrandpaMo]

What's the hurry? For my part I promise that I won't stop considering if I want to flip np, and I promise I won't fall into the defeatist trap of being like "oh lol I unvoted guess I can't put my vote back on"
-Morta

do u rlly wanna know? i have info from my role that np is scum lol

ima just give that much information. the game has literally been stale for the past week. this is the only action it will get, so if ur town i recommend for u to vote so we can get a flip, move the game. because i have already gamesolved.

[GrandpaMo]

i have info from my role that np is scum lol

ok i might be bsing that (maybe who knows)

but no literally like lets get the game moving, we all literally have been going throuhg different wagons and no one has been ever confident, so as ur town hero, i will literally be confident and have a concise wagon where we are not HOPPING everywhere like we did.

just vote em out already

[GrandpaMo]

Lemme see what Nyx says
-Morta

kk

[GrandpaMo]

Also, I'd like to see a claim from NP.

u see how they stopped talking?? also, nah i dont have to say anything.


im dying tonight -- everything will make sense.

[GrandpaMo]

I agree that NP is scum and I would like to execute them today, however I'd like them to claim and you to explain yourself before the hammer.
I mean, you've claimed VT and then claimed that your role gives you info that suggests NP is scum. That makes zero sense.
And if you're dying tonight, you can surely just explain now? If we'll all know after the flips, there's no reason to hide that information now.

- Nyx

they are scum nyx. if they were town pr, they would have claimed something by now -- they would have made it known to not vote them. they softed and once i told them to claim they responded to everything else besides for the claim.

also look at my previous posts, you would know i was just bsing. i already rred.

just pleaseeeeeeee trust me. if whatever reason it flips town, feel free to kill me tmr ok? like pls.

just trust, im tired of the game stalling, and im 100% sure thsi will flip scum. and if 6 other people thought so too, idk why we are waiting after we have been waiting for almost 2 weeks now.

[GrandpaMo]

Someone E-1 and we can get a claim and make some progress

-Mr. Glance

i won't claim off of a bogus wagon lol no free clout

[GrandpaMo]

I agree that NP is scum and I would like to execute them today, however I'd like them to claim and you to explain yourself before the hammer.
I mean, you've claimed VT and then claimed that your role gives you info that suggests NP is scum. That makes zero sense.
And if you're dying tonight, you can surely just explain now? If we'll all know after the flips, there's no reason to hide that information now.

- Nyx

they are scum nyx. if they were town pr, they would have claimed something by now -- they would have made it known to not vote them. they softed and once i told them to claim they responded to everything else besides for the claim.

also look at my previous posts, you would know i was just bsing. i already rred.

just pleaseeeeeeee trust me. if whatever reason it flips town, feel free to kill me tmr ok? like pls.

just trust, im tired of the game stalling, and im 100% sure thsi will flip scum. and if 6 other people thought so too, idk why we are waiting after we have been waiting for almost 2 weeks now.

I think I've made it plenty clear I'm not going to just trust you on it, so why keep repeating the same logic?

- Nyx

yea but ur logic makes no sense . if u want em dead and have had voted them and scumread them, why not vote them rn? whats holding u back? just because of ur paranoia? im reassuring to u thats not it

[GrandpaMo]

GM, let's pretend that I believe your claim. Do you know that NP is scum, or just not town?

i know np is scum. pls vote them. dei ex machine is gonna look bad tmr.

[GrandpaMo]

o nvm u already voting

[GrandpaMo]

did yall forget this was an AI generated game

[GrandpaMo]

bruh why do i have to say anything. i dont wanna say anything. like everhything will make sense by tmr.


why cant we vote them out. they flip scum. and regardless of the flip that happens tonight (me). you will all get the information that you are asking me.

i just dont want to out that information because of mafia knowing some game influential info that might get an important town role killed (there is ur big hint!!!), is it like not obvious? im not tryna out ok. like i have a really good reason not to and u will thank me for it later.

so pls like give me some grace.

[GrandpaMo]

did yall forget this was an AI generated game

Ok, and the point is?

oh i just wanted to say it to say it -- it was a just random side thought in my head.

(it has no context/relation to anything i said)

[GrandpaMo]

What's the hurry? For my part I promise that I won't stop considering if I want to flip np, and I promise I won't fall into the defeatist trap of being like "oh lol I unvoted guess I can't put my vote back on"
-Morta

do u rlly wanna know? i have info from my role that np is scum lol

ima just give that much information. the game has literally been stale for the past week. this is the only action it will get, so if ur town i recommend for u to vote so we can get a flip, move the game. because i have already gamesolved.

Hum you might need to spell this out completely. You rolled into the game and voted me “without reading” now u say you have role info that np is maf? Supwidat?

YES PORKENS.

i didnt have that info till later. were u not able to make that deduction?

[GrandpaMo]

Im getting third party vibes from gpmo? Do you win with the town?

ofc i win with town.

also im pretty sure u third party LOL or bloodbot is im not too sure

[GrandpaMo]

top

[GrandpaMo]

Can you point out the two posts between which you got this info?

yes i can happily do that!

[GrandpaMo]

Ok I was just launching into a ramble about how these two statements literally contradict themselves

Spoiler:

@narrow parking
My case on you isn't that you aren't scumhunting at all, but that you're really only doing enough to not get prodded.
It's so easy to just pop in and make posts like 176, 214, 253, 434 to look like you're doing something. Anybody can do that. There's very little effort there to actually sort people. I don't know how 437 is an attempt at scumhunting. 463 is longer and does involve more effort, but it's really just interpreting a post without actually concluding much about GM's alignment (someone tell me if I'm misunderstanding that post though).
I'm not exactly experienced, but every time I've seen this type of play, it's been from scum.

- Nyx

NYX CONVINCE UR BUDDY PLSS THIS NEEDS TO FLIP ITS TOO LATE

I agree this needs to flip, just need a minute.

- Nyx

ok u need to trust me . im like999% confident

pedit: what is that??

i have info from my role that np is scum lol

ok i might be bsing that (maybe who knows)

but no literally like lets get the game moving, we all literally have been going throuhg different wagons and no one has been ever confident, so as ur town hero, i will literally be confident and have a concise wagon where we are not HOPPING everywhere like we did.

just vote em out already

But ok, I guess that's a side thought now
Let me think

-Morta

eh thyey dont contradict. in retrospect, i just didnt want to out a lot of info thats why i put in parentheiss (maybe who knows) like i was softing something

[GrandpaMo]

Can you point out the two posts between which you got this info?

so i will tell u that i got the info from either 525, 526, 527, 554.

im not gonna tell u exactly what post i got the info right after just in case maf is pr hunting

[GrandpaMo]

Lol Ok i see. I also asked chatgpt and it spilled the beans. Nice. Go ahead and hammer.

therr u go . we are on the right track.

[GrandpaMo]

holy shit im like so big brain no way

[GrandpaMo]

Hey who are NPs partners?

im like 75 percent sure its bloodbot.

50% sure u are third party with generative ai.


and kitty / mena third mafia

[GrandpaMo]

Intent to hammer shortly (Morta is on board now).

- Nyx

I think deb's hydra also has a 45 percent of flipping mafia btw

[GrandpaMo]

Intent to hammer shortly (Morta is on board now).

- Nyx

I think deb's hydra also has a 45 percent of flipping mafia btw

dei*

[GrandpaMo]

just rlly depends on who dies tonight haha. im not hoping its u tho

[GrandpaMo]

don't forget about the nonexistent the two other wagons that happened. look at the vc for both of them. im too lazy to do it rn but there was a time where towns consensus poe was on one person. this probably means that there is one high poster who is probably scum

[GrandpaMo]

Intent to hammer shortly (Morta is on board now).

- Nyx

I think deb's hydra also has a 45 percent of flipping mafia btw

dei*

It's DEM, and why?

sorry just got ur first name but idk u were being very idk how to say it. like out of everyone, I would have expected u to be on board.

[GrandpaMo]

I'd like to get a readwall down before hammer if possible.

from who? from np? if so, u are not getting one. they already had made us very clear that it is not

[GrandpaMo]

I'd like to get a readwall down before hammer if possible.

from who? from np? if so, u are not getting one. they already had made us very clear that it is not

theywil not*

[GrandpaMo]

I can give you time to write one if that's what you're referring to, how long do you need?

- Nyx

oh lol im dumb

but titus i think u are fine. people are pushing u because ur acting coasty

i have seen worse from titus. i pushed titus for that exact reason some game ago, and i got clowned on because they ended up town iirc

[GrandpaMo]

i say titus gets solved eventually probably late day2, day3

[GrandpaMo]

@KT How do you feel about Mo's announcement of a role announcement? Is that factoring into your town read of him and what do you think is the purpose/benefit of it?

I think it's +town, just doesn't "feel" like a scum action imo. It's hard to explain vibe reads for me.

hey scum! ur late to the afterparty

[GrandpaMo]

we hammered ur scum partner, narrow parking. how do u feel?

[GrandpaMo]

I think GP is obv town regardless of flip

Narrow's response to pressure is underwhelming

Porken's feels almost too suspicious of Grandpa (like 622), I just find it odd

YES MORNING TWEET to the resucue!!! hii how r u.

i def agree, narrows repsonse is VERY underwhelming. what do u feel about DEM?

[GrandpaMo]

I can give you time to write one if that's what you're referring to, how long do you need?

- Nyx

@Titus, it would be nice if you could answer this.
I'll try to give time but I'd like to drop the hammer before I go to bed. I don't want to drag the day out when I've made my decision.

- Nyx

I will be up and around for a bit, I will hammer if you want to wait for Titus, but also want sleepy time.

just hammer pls

we can do that tmr

[GrandpaMo]

lets go

[GrandpaMo]

I think GP is obv town regardless of flip

Narrow's response to pressure is underwhelming

Porken's feels almost too suspicious of Grandpa (like 622), I just find it odd

I was thinking of a role from epicmafia that wins when a specific player is eliminated, it wins with the scum

Like an Executioner/Condemner type role?

- Nyx

yea greedy exec, i got narrow parking as my target. AND NOW I WIN !!!

this is just a joke btw.

[GrandpaMo]

hey yall, sorry i had to replace -- something bad really came up with my gma. its not because i couldnt take the heat from my actions lol

i just personally thought that person that we condemned day 1 was always the vote. game wasnt progressing nor was it moving so i decided to create action for town. i was gonna def take 100 percent responbility.

i lowkey did kinda doubt it by the end since their reaction was town but it was kinda too late.

they had fluff / scum content.

[GrandpaMo]

1-shot Bulletproof Serial Killer

haha called it! had a 3p between porkens and imag

[GrandpaMo]

Doctor Drew Kills Kitty Tacky
Menalque Jailkeeps Kitty Tacky
Porkens Targets Kitty Tacky

this is funny lmao