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Post Post #13 (isolation #0) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:44 pm

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Post Post #14 (isolation #1) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:45 pm

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DAYVIG: SOMETHING COOL


FOR GREAT JUSTICE!
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Post Post #25 (isolation #2) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:06 pm

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In post 18, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 14, Aureal wrote:
DAYVIG: SOMETHING COOL


FOR GREAT JUSTICE!
DAYBLOCKER: Aureal


Nuh uh!
YUH HUH

I CANNOT BE STOPPED

I MUST SMITE THIS ABOMINATION FOR I AM A MIGHTY DEFENDER OF GOODNESS AND ORDER

AND DEFINITELY NOT A PIRATE

DON'T LOOK AT MY HAT
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Post Post #71 (isolation #3) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:28 pm

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In post 68, Night Lights wrote:
In post 65, Hu Tao wrote: Is there night kills in this?
In post 67, Hu Tao wrote: Nvm I forgot they don't
Ok chill with the townslips you're making me doubt myself
:lol:
Probably wise. Hu can definitely fake cluelessness as scum.
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Post Post #85 (isolation #4) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:51 pm

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In post 74, Night Lights wrote:
In post 71, Aureal wrote:
In post 68, Night Lights wrote:
In post 65, Hu Tao wrote: Is there night kills in this?
In post 67, Hu Tao wrote: Nvm I forgot they don't
Ok chill with the townslips you're making me doubt myself
:lol:
Probably wise. Hu can definitely fake cluelessness as scum.
Yeah? You've seen this before?
Well she has recently claimed that she was in fact really confused by this game but I still think my pushback on her supposed confusion holds :P
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Post Post #93 (isolation #5) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:57 pm

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In post 78, Doctor Drew wrote: Stupid question incoming.....

Are we voting like normal, or some weird 'Enlighten: Aureal' sort of thing?

Was reading the OP, just wanna make sure how exactly I make sure Aureal dies........I mean how anyone is voted off

:shifty:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Not gonna be so easy to get rid of me as you want, eh?

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In post 79, Night Lights wrote:
In post 77, Alianna wrote:
In post 75, Night Lights wrote:
I didn't see any of that in Mini Normal 1094. She was very logical and sharp. I'm not doubting you but I'm curious where the read comes from
Are you sure you have the right game name? Mini Normal 1094 was 13 years ago.
:lol:

Micro Normal 1094, my b
Man, makes me feel old that I played in the very first Micro games here.
Pfft, I played in Newbie 138, well before micros existed. :P
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Post Post #96 (isolation #6) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:04 pm

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Maybe someyear you will get the chance!

This year not looking good.

Next year I'm gonna like, get all of them Mafia roles and never have to solve again. You'll see!

*staring wistfully into space*
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Post Post #98 (isolation #7) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:10 pm

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In post 95, Night Lights wrote:
Imagine being scum and getting caught by Aureal. Couldn't be me
Yeah, you and Hu are good at taking me out of the picture first. :P

I don't know if the nightkills or the elo voting method is worse. :igmeou:
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Post Post #104 (isolation #8) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:12 pm

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Oh right

DAYVIG: Sakura Hana


MUST SMITE THIS TOO
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Post Post #120 (isolation #9) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:24 pm

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In post 107, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 97, Sakura Hana wrote: VOTE: Sakura
I don't understand how anyone can townread anyone strongly enough to be voting for them within 4 pages at this point in time.
Scum post. Trying too hard to look town
That seems like looking town to you? Dissuading town from townreading other town is what scum need to do here - all we have to do is form a correct townbloc of three to win, we don't even need to figure out exactly who the scum are.

I'm assuming scum can't change the enlightenment level via night action, anyway. Even if I'm struggling to think of what exactly their night actions might be.
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Post Post #128 (isolation #10) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 7:15 pm

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If people just keep up with the townslips like this, nobody is going to take any of it seriously. :P
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Post Post #140 (isolation #11) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 7:40 pm

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In post 132, Something Cool wrote:
You wanna TvT, don't you?
No.
Alianna faking cluelessness?
Alianna faking cluelessness again?
You think those are faking?

- do I even need to sign?
Yes I have no idea who you are.
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Post Post #141 (isolation #12) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 7:41 pm

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In post 138, Night Lights wrote:
In post 132, Something Cool wrote: Alianna faking cluelessness again?
Good thing I'm already voting her
I might be missing the joke but you want to vote for town this game
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
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Post Post #144 (isolation #13) » Fri Dec 08, 2023 7:48 pm

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In post 142, Night Lights wrote:
Do you really think that could be python
:lol:
Oh yes definitely. Can't imagine that other guy doing something like posting in color.
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Post Post #176 (isolation #14) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:13 am

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*looks at the start of Python's mech*

Wait a sec, I was assuming 2/7 but I guess that's not actually said anywhere is it? And actually the sample PM for the dark jester saying "You win if all Dark Jesters in your Troupe have been Enlightened, preventing the Level of Enlightenment from ever reaching 3" indicates there are 3 of them because math and lack of self-voting power.
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Post Post #183 (isolation #15) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:46 am

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In post 156, Something Cool wrote:
We'd never miss a chance to represent Ice Mafia
:good:

-Python
Everyone else wants to forget that game though :(
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Post Post #185 (isolation #16) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:47 am

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In post 159, Something Cool wrote:
In post 120, Aureal wrote:
In post 107, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 97, Sakura Hana wrote: VOTE: Sakura
I don't understand how anyone can townread anyone strongly enough to be voting for them within 4 pages at this point in time.
Scum post. Trying too hard to look town
That seems like looking town to you? Dissuading town from townreading other town is what scum need to do here - all we have to do is form a correct townbloc of three to win, we don't even need to figure out exactly who the scum are.

I'm assuming scum can't change the enlightenment level via night action, anyway. Even if I'm struggling to think of what exactly their night actions might be.
Kinda feels like what you're doing with
In post 71, Aureal wrote:
In post 68, Night Lights wrote:
In post 65, Hu Tao wrote: Is there night kills in this?
In post 67, Hu Tao wrote: Nvm I forgot they don't
Ok chill with the townslips you're making me doubt myself
:lol:
Probably wise. Hu can definitely fake cluelessness as scum.
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Yup! Isn't it great? I don't have to care how my opinion comes off, you can't get rid of me because you think it's sus. :twisted:
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Post Post #222 (isolation #17) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:42 am

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In post 182, Hu Tao wrote: Aureal seems different so probably not voting them today.
*honks and throws Hu Tao's newspaper in the pool*
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Post Post #226 (isolation #18) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:54 am

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In post 186, Night Lights wrote:
In post 183, Aureal wrote:
In post 156, Something Cool wrote:
We'd never miss a chance to represent Ice Mafia
:good:

-Python
Everyone else wants to forget that game though :(
The only thing I want to remember is how I correctly nailed you and python as scum. The rest of it can go
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Night Lights might be scum
Drew might be scum
Sakura might be scum
Hu might be scum
Alianna might be scum
Gamma might be scum
Kitty might be scum
That horrific abomination which should not be might be scum

*stretches in satisfaction after nailing the scum* :good:
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Post Post #232 (isolation #19) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:06 am

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In post 191, usesPython wrote:
In post 185, Aureal wrote: Yup! Isn't it great? I don't have to care how my opinion comes off, you can't get rid of me because you think it's sus. :twisted:
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VOTE: Aureal

-Python
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Post Post #263 (isolation #20) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:57 am

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In post 229, Something Cool wrote: It's actually hurtful.
I can't really focus on this enough to figure what you're talking about right now but if it's directed at me, sorry. I'm just teasing, not trying to be hurtful.
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Post Post #277 (isolation #21) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 8:37 am

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In post 267, Something Cool wrote:
In post 263, Aureal wrote:
In post 229, Something Cool wrote: It's actually hurtful.
I can't really focus on this enough to figure what you're talking about right now but if it's directed at me, sorry. I'm just teasing, not trying to be hurtful.
It was about calling us an abomination.

Apology accepted :D
Take it more in this sense ;)
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In post 243, Taly wrote: i personally consider "fucking eldritch horror who Should Not Be" to be a compliment, but to each their own
I can hardly think of a higher compliment! Don't waste them on wesley. ;)
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Post Post #280 (isolation #22) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 8:43 am

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In post 268, Something Cool wrote:
In post 233, Something Cool wrote:
Aureal what's your opinion on limming Kitty today?
@Aureal any chance you can answer this?

Also wouldn't mind a comment from Gamma and Black.
Not sure why you think I in particular should have an opinion here but you seem to be using the reasoning that you expect Kitty to be less useful later on. And I don't know that I'm comfortable using such reasoning.

Also that reasoning would apply just as well whichever alignment Kitty is. :igmeou:
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Post Post #308 (isolation #23) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:27 am

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In post 283, Something Cool wrote:
In post 280, Aureal wrote: Not sure why you think I in particular should have an opinion here
I just felt I didn't really have much content from you, you popped in so I used the opportunity to ask you a question, then I just continued to nag you about it because I like getting my questions answered lol.
So you decided to ask me something random rather than say, answer the question I asked you right off the bat which remains unanswered? :igmeou:
In post 280, Aureal wrote: you seem to be using the reasoning that you expect Kitty to be less useful later on. And I don't know that I'm comfortable using such reasoning.

Also that reasoning would apply just as well whichever alignment Kitty is. :igmeou:
Not exactly.

My thinking is this: I think Kitty has slightly higher than random chance to be town. If I'm correct about that, then sparing him is a pro town move, regardless of whether we do it today or on Day 3. However, if we spare my slot right now (the whole discussion started when Sakura voted to spare me and Python), then there will be one less person willing to spare Kitty on a later day. And I doubt Kitty can get himself super townread in ELo.

Therefore, since I think it's a good idea to spare him, I would like to do it BEFORE ELo. Because I am THAT confident I will be able to get my slot spared in ELo.

PEDIT: Also what Python said in the above post.
Why do you think Kitty is over random to be town?
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Post Post #310 (isolation #24) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:30 am

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In post 236, Something Cool wrote:
In post 226, Aureal wrote:
In post 186, Night Lights wrote:
In post 183, Aureal wrote:
In post 156, Something Cool wrote:
We'd never miss a chance to represent Ice Mafia
:good:

-Python
Everyone else wants to forget that game though :(
The only thing I want to remember is how I correctly nailed you and python as scum. The rest of it can go
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Night Lights might be scum
Drew might be scum
Sakura might be scum
Hu might be scum
Alianna might be scum
Gamma might be scum
Kitty might be scum
That horrific abomination which should not be might be scum

*stretches in satisfaction after nailing the scum* :good:
Sorry; you forgot Aureal might be scum, B for effort though

-Python
It's not forgetting, I know for a fact that Aureal has a 0% chance of being scum, so including her in this would be silly.
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Post Post #330 (isolation #25) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:55 am

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I townread Alianna.
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Post Post #356 (isolation #26) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:27 pm

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I feel like Hu wouldn't ever expect to get enlightened herself if she pushed a scumKitty wagon through here based on ~vibes~ :o
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Post Post #370 (isolation #27) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:50 pm

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In post 364, KittyTacky wrote: I think Cool is town. Vibes. I don't think scum would tryhard like this so early.

Reads list coming later today.
Uh... Ever play with usesPython before? This is almost low-key for them.
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Post Post #379 (isolation #28) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:55 pm

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In post 375, Alianna wrote: Pagetop get.
I townread Alianna.
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Post Post #394 (isolation #29) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:28 pm

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In post 388, Alianna wrote:
In post 160, Something Cool wrote: I townread Alianna.

-Python
In post 330, Aureal wrote: I townread Alianna.
In post 331, Night Lights wrote:
I townread Alianna.
In post 332, Something Cool wrote:
In post 160, Something Cool wrote: I townread Alianna.

-Python
In post 379, Aureal wrote:
In post 375, Alianna wrote: Pagetop get.
I townread Alianna.
It's like I have a cult dedicated to me.
I townread Alianna.
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Post Post #402 (isolation #30) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:49 pm

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In post 206, Night Lights wrote:
In post 204, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 202, Night Lights wrote:
In post 201, Sakura Hana wrote: i'm more curious why people scumread SC
Who scumreads SC?
I thought i read something about them being scumread.
Wouldn't it make sense to look back and double check and also try to find their reasonings for it?

just feels performative
Hmmm, really Black? You actually expect town to be more accurate about what's going on? Even people who have said they're not trying very hard?
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Post Post #403 (isolation #31) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:51 pm

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In post 397, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 396, Alianna wrote:
In post 161, Something Cool wrote:
Python wrote:Guessing Drew is that low cause of this?
*snip*
Actually it's mainly because of how if you look at his ISO, he doesn't make a single attempt to solve, makes tonally weird fluff posts that try to sound serious, and has not made any remotely towny-sounding post.
I would need to check how much experience Dragon has with Drew, but I know I scumread town!Drew for similar stuff in WDM Redux, which Dragon was in. It wasn't
exactly
the same thing, but he was coasting, not being all that solvy, and I thought his tone was off. The point being that it feels like maybe Dragon should have known that wasn't scum-indicative.

Funny enough, Drew also bet his life on town!Snivy that game, but it wasn't quite as early as the Sakura locktown.
I also bet my life on scumTitus and townPython quite literally, which did work out fairly well lol. I forget, was Snivy town that game?

Also, to make things clear, my Sakura read was based in jokes......brb let me explain
Drew seems like town here.
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Post Post #431 (isolation #32) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:22 pm

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In post 253, Night Lights wrote:
In post 249, Something Cool wrote:
In post 248, Night Lights wrote:
In post 245, Something Cool wrote: Also Black can you commit to a read on us?
No. I think it's +scum for you to ask this though
DE always does that though?

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Not that I can recall but my memory is also shit so I'm willing to admit I just don't remember him doing it
Lucky you.

:neutral:

Don't look to me to read Dragon though, I have a terrible success rate with that.
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Post Post #441 (isolation #33) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:34 pm

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In post 276, Something Cool wrote:
In post 274, Something Cool wrote:
UNLESS
we have reason to think that lowering enlightenment/increasing enlightenment has a mechanical effect beside advancing us toward wincon (EX: a town role that only works at 1+ enlightenment would make us want to spare a confident townread Day 1).
I don't have a read on this outside of not seeing any mechanism to make this work other than gating Dark Jester factional abilities behind the LE

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I am curious to know what sort of night abilities you think could potentially be in play for anyone. 🤔
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Post Post #466 (isolation #34) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:06 pm

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In post 291, Something Cool wrote:
In post 288, Night Lights wrote:
In post 287, Something Cool wrote:
A perfect game would require 0 jesters to be widely townread and 3/7 townies to be widely townread, do you think that's likely to happen this game?

-Python
I think it's generally easier to find town than scum, so it's possible. I'm not sure the liklihood though
Playerlist is:
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  2. Doctor Drew
  3. Alianna
  4. Hu Tao
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  7. Something Cool [DragonEater70 + usesPython]
  8. Aureal
  9. Night Lights [Black + Alisae]
Drew is always scummy, Sakura's expressed an interest of taking it chill this game, Kitty's meh, We're beefing so that'll split the playerlist

That leaves:
  1. Gamma Emerald
  2. Alianna
  3. Hu Tao
  4. Aureal
Odds of a perfect game where we only lim consensus town doesn't look good to us tbh

-Python
...

You seem to be missing an opinion on a slot here... :igmeou:


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Post Post #467 (isolation #35) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:09 pm

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In post 307, Something Cool wrote:
Also Black I think I was subconsciously still thinking that scum had an ability to interfere with day play (aka nightkills) when I suggested the plan of not sparing consensus towns. So you are probably right that just doing consensus town works the best here.
Dragon, how many jesters do you think are in this game?
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Post Post #471 (isolation #36) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:14 pm

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In post 311, Something Cool wrote:
In post 308, Aureal wrote: So you decided to ask me something random rather than say, answer the question I asked you right off the bat which remains unanswered? :igmeou:
What question is that?
This is gonna be one of those games, huh? :neutral:
In post 140, Aureal wrote:
In post 132, Something Cool wrote:
You wanna TvT, don't you?
No.
Alianna faking cluelessness?
Alianna faking cluelessness again?
You think those are faking?

- do I even need to sign?
Yes I have no idea who you are.
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He doesn't feel like he's trying to be townread
This doesn't really feel like a thought you would typically have. More like, you'd be annoyed at him not giving reads.
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Post Post #476 (isolation #37) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:18 pm

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In post 469, Night Lights wrote:
In post 466, Aureal wrote: ...

You seem to be missing an opinion on a slot here...


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He did say we were beefing
Yeah, which would refer to their slot, not yours.

Unless "beefing" is supposed to be some sort of action involving both of you I guess? Randomly verbing a noun does not lend itself well to interpretation.
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Post Post #502 (isolation #38) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:02 pm

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In post 500, Night Lights wrote:
In post 491, Something Cool wrote: Random question but what does "boo" mean? Is it like "hun"?
:lol:

Yes it's just the American slang version
I disavow any knowledge of this slang.
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Post Post #514 (isolation #39) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:11 pm

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In post 510, Night Lights wrote:
In post 502, Aureal wrote:
In post 500, Night Lights wrote:
In post 491, Something Cool wrote: Random question but what does "boo" mean? Is it like "hun"?
:lol:

Yes it's just the American slang version
I disavow any knowledge of this slang.
You've never heard of it or you don't like it?
Is... Is it supposed to be some corruption of "beau"?

Why do I have such a hard time figuring out people's non-standard language? :igmeou:
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Post Post #527 (isolation #40) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:22 pm

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In post 372, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 274, Something Cool wrote:
In post 270, Gamma Emerald wrote: Why Kitty?
After Hu Tao said she's confidently TRing him I did an ISO of him and I think he's nulltown.

I also think that mechanically it's more optimal to spare a nulltown on Day 1 than a top townread
UNLESS
we have reason to think that lowering enlightenment/increasing enlightenment has a mechanical effect beside advancing us toward wincon (EX: a town role that only works at 1+ enlightenment would make us want to spare a confident townread Day 1).

Pedit: I am also fine with doing Alianna. What's making you doubt your Hu Tao read?
I know this is modWIFOM but this seems like the kind of mod to make complex games so enlightenment definitely affects SOMETHING.

However! I just realized. To reduce swing and give negative feedback, what if enlightenment buffs evils?

UNVOTE:

WIFOM wifom...
I... feel like the very mechanism of enlightenment itself reduces swing compared to a standard game. Trying to vote out your own team instead of the other means that when you succeed, there's less support to help you continue to succeed; as opposed to standard rules where voting out the opposite team gives you proportionally more support to continue to succeed.
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Post Post #530 (isolation #41) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:25 pm

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In post 521, Night Lights wrote:
@Aureal what do your reads look like?
I townread Alianna.



:twisted:

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Post Post #536 (isolation #42) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:42 pm

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In post 533, Night Lights wrote:
In post 530, Aureal wrote:
In post 521, Night Lights wrote:
@Aureal what do your reads look like?
I townread Alianna.



:twisted:

(Autosuggest now completes that sentence properly for me :D )
Can you give me some other reads?
Draaaaaaaaaaagooooooooon

You gotta stoooooooop her

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Post Post #539 (isolation #43) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:46 pm

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In post 408, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 363, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 188, Something Cool wrote:
In post 187, Hu Tao wrote: Kitty is the first lucky contestant to have the chance to join my town core. I'm close to just locking him as town.
I'm not seeing it, what makes Kitty town?

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This is the towniest I've seen kitty. I've seen kitty twice as scum.
You were scum, or Kitty was scum?
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Post Post #542 (isolation #44) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:48 pm

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In post 538, Black wrote:
In post 536, Aureal wrote:
In post 533, Night Lights wrote:
In post 530, Aureal wrote:
In post 521, Night Lights wrote:
@Aureal what do your reads look like?
I townread Alianna.



:twisted:

(Autosuggest now completes that sentence properly for me :D )
Can you give me some other reads?
Draaaaaaaaaaagooooooooon

You gotta stoooooooop her

:cry:
??????
I don't wanna TvT you like when he does that to me :(
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Post Post #544 (isolation #45) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 8:08 pm

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Typical game with Dragon:

Dragon: Aureal do you have reads???
Aureal: :igmeou:
Dragon: AUREAL GIVE ME READZZZZZZZ
Aureal: :igmeou: :igmeou: :igmeou:
Dragon: AUREAL NO HAVE READS AUREAL SCUM
Aureal: DRAGON OVER THE TOP WITH DEMANDS DRAGON SCUM
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Post Post #560 (isolation #46) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:08 pm

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In post 517, Something Cool wrote:
In post 512, Night Lights wrote: Wait why is Aureal in the towncore? Can you explain your read there
She isn't in the town core, she's in he hypothetical town core, and the reason for that is a combination of flippancy which I read as possibly towny and her approach to my slot which is consistent with how Aureal approached my slot as town, I would say. What gives me pause in townbinning her is the lack of "wow I'm on the same page with Aureal" moments which happened in Love Child, but maybe that was a one-off (I sincerely hope not because being on the same page with Aureal is considerably more fun than fighting with her about stupid things).
Hey! This is a post which exists and am just now seeing. Blaaaaaack, Dragon already explained this dynamic before I even started messing with you two based off of it. :(

Ugh does this mean I need to give him town points now too? :igmeou:
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Post Post #561 (isolation #47) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:20 pm

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In post 545, Night Lights wrote:

Then she quickly goes back and responds to something completely unrelated from 150 posts before this in
Yeah I have kinda been doing this all evening? :lol: Literally spent the entire time since getting home from work going back through the many pages I couldn't give much attention to while there, and sniping some responses to more recent stuff as I notice things I want to respond to come in.

I suppose if I felt like going to the computer I'd have been done reviewing stuff already but sometimes I'm just lazy and just keep phone posting from the couch with my cozy blanket.
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Post Post #563 (isolation #48) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:24 pm

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In post 552, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 539, Aureal wrote:
In post 408, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 363, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 188, Something Cool wrote:
I'm not seeing it, what makes Kitty town?

-Python
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This is the towniest I've seen kitty. I've seen kitty twice as scum.
You were scum, or Kitty was scum?
I was scum with kitty once. And I was town and kitty was scum.
What is Kitty doing here that feels different than his scum games?
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Post Post #565 (isolation #49) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:27 pm

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In post 553, Something Cool wrote:
In post 544, Aureal wrote: Typical game with Dragon:

Dragon: Aureal do you have reads???
Aureal: :igmeou:
Dragon: AUREAL GIVE ME READZZZZZZZ
Aureal: :igmeou: :igmeou: :igmeou:
Dragon: AUREAL NO HAVE READS AUREAL SCUM
Aureal: DRAGON OVER THE TOP WITH DEMANDS DRAGON SCUM
Dragon: NO U *kicks Aureal off a cliff*
This is such a blatant misrep

Typical game with Aureal:

Dragon: I'm living my life in peace
Somebody: Aureal scum
Dragon: hmm maybe u right *votes Aureal*
Aureal: HOW DARE U TVT ME DRAGON. DO YOU NOT REMEMBER THAT ONE TIME WHEN YOU MISTAKENLY SCUMREAD ME?
Dragon: sorry Aureal you right, I would never TvT you *unvotes*
Dragon: Actually let's vote the person scumreading Aureal because they are pushing LHF. *tunnels Aureal's attacker*
This does not seem to describe any game which has ever happened, and the closest one was not a TvT because you were scum :igmeou:
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Post Post #567 (isolation #50) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:31 pm

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In post 562, Something Cool wrote:
In post 560, Aureal wrote: Ugh does this mean I need to give him town points now too? :igmeou:
of course
Noooooooooooo

My scumread

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo :(
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Post Post #572 (isolation #51) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:37 pm

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In post 566, Something Cool wrote:
In post 565, Aureal wrote: This does not seem to describe any game which has ever happened, and the closest one was not a TvT because you were scum :igmeou:
So I never voted Titus for voting you in Love Child? Really?

Also I never said
I
said it was a TvT, I just said that I unvoted.
In post 568, Something Cool wrote:
Or more precisely I never said it was a TvT, only that you said it was. And I unvoted because I knew that's what town!me would do, not because it was some elaborate scum manipulation.
Wuh

You're conflating different games

You voted then unvoted me as scum in C9++ after I griped at you

You didn't TvT me at all in love child, you went "Not voting Aureal, she's busy being a goose" and let me do my thing
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Post Post #573 (isolation #52) » Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:39 pm

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In post 570, Something Cool wrote:
In post 567, Aureal wrote:
In post 562, Something Cool wrote:
In post 560, Aureal wrote: Ugh does this mean I need to give him town points now too? :igmeou:
of course
Noooooooooooo

My scumread

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo :(
YES! It's time for veggiebird 2.0.
We'll see :o
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Post Post #601 (isolation #53) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:56 am

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In post 582, Something Cool wrote: VOTE:
Alisae (Night Lights)
Why cite Alisae here, lol?
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Post Post #602 (isolation #54) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 4:59 am

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In post 583, Something Cool wrote:
In post 579, Something Cool wrote:
In post 578, Roden wrote: Night Lights looks really townie early on
I'm kinda down to speed-spare them. If they are town, we get a level of enlightenment and also a person SRing me out of the way, so it's a win-win.
We're not down for this cause we're pretty sure Black is scum here

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Why? What happened to chilling and sheeping Dragon?

Also I asked for your input on potential night actions. :(
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Post Post #613 (isolation #55) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:09 am

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In post 609, Something Cool wrote:
In post 607, Gamma Emerald wrote: I townread Alianna.
Great. So do I. But nobody wants to spare her right now because "the day phase should be longer".
Not true, I don't want to spare her right now because then I'd be left alone without the only voice of sanity and reason in a pile of loonies. :(
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Post Post #641 (isolation #56) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:24 am

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Post Post #662 (isolation #57) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:07 pm

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In post 610, Something Cool wrote:
In post 602, Aureal wrote: Also I asked for your input on potential night actions. :(
Missed it the first time. If town have night actions it's gonna be any of:
  • A protective action if jesters have a nightkill
  • A low power investigative role that doesn't get red/green checks like Motion Detector, Detective, or Role Cop (Can't be high power because a red check mechanically autowins the game and a green check is also strong as hell)
  • A low power co-ordination role like Neighborizer or Messenger (Can't be something like Mason because that probably autowins town the game)
-Python
You seem pretty convinced that there should be a nightkill though, and having a protective in that case also has investigative power because blocking a kill on someone means they're clear. There would likely be some question still of whether there just wasn't a nightkill at all or it was blocked, depending on the timing, but it could still be decent info. Which seems a little unbalanced if there's nightkills. And how would there even be nightkills, when it's a fact there isn't a factional one and vig is apparently restricted to town only? Could there be some sort of two-part killing action that requires two jesters to both use their action in order to make a kill? Something along the lines of arsonist where a target is marked and killed later?

On the other hand, if there's no nightkills, why is there even nights when there can't reasonably be useful investigations either? Nights are basically about play and counter-play around the primary thing each faction uses to try to get an advantage- kills and investigations.

You and Dragon don't seem to be on the same page with this- you're talking like you expect 7/2 with nightkills. Dragon seems to have talked himself out of the idea that there's nightkills though, by his backtracking on the idea that voting a more null slot like Kitty early would be a good idea.
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Post Post #663 (isolation #58) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:11 pm

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In post 650, Something Cool wrote: I feel like as town you tend to have a more flowy state where you push people for being scum without really being invested in it that I'm not seeing in your Sakura push, idk how to explain it

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Black is more aggressively focused on her pushes as scum whereas she pushes in more places but less vigorously? Something like that?
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Post Post #664 (isolation #59) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:12 pm

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In post 663, Aureal wrote: Mmm

Black is more aggressively focused on her pushes as scum whereas
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Post Post #668 (isolation #60) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:24 pm

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In post 667, Something Cool wrote: Actually hot take, if there's night actions but no nightkills is it worth it to no lim?

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...

Okay fine, maybe you can have a townread after all.

Though I bet you'd be better at faking this than Snivy. :igmeou:
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Post Post #669 (isolation #61) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:33 pm

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In post 665, Something Cool wrote: Jailkeeper would keep the nightkill ambiguity, and the specific wording is that Dark Jesters do not have a factional kill
by default
so you can make it work without being bastard by just gating the nightkill behind LE or by requiring a Jester gets limmed to use it
JK is just an extra layer of ambiguity about
what part
the JK's target played in the kill attempt: killer or target, it doesn't make it any more ambiguous whether there was a kill than a standard doc protect would be. I guess gating it where the enlightenment level is 1+ would fit, though.
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Post Post #670 (isolation #62) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:36 pm

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Likewise, I suppose it wouldn't be completely out of the question for there to be an investigative that only works at level 2 (which should only happen when there's only one more town than jester I think?) because forcing a 1v1 isn't an autowin there.
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Post Post #673 (isolation #63) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:58 pm

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Okay yeah, I see what you meant about only being able to have two nightkills, so just being tied to the LE is inadequate.

Spoiler: a few examples
Start: (LE0) 7:2 -Jester (LE -1) 7:1
D2: -Patron (LE0) 6:1
D3: -Patron (LE1) 5:1
D4: NK -Patron (LE1) 4:1 -Patron (LE2) 3:1
D5: NK - Patron (LE2) 2:1


Start: (LE0) 7:2 -Patron (LE 1) 6:2
D2: NK -Patron (LE1) 5:2 -Patron (LE2) 4:2
D3: NK -Patron (LE2) 3:2


Start: (LE0) 7:2 -Patron (LE 1) 6:2
D2: NK -Patron (LE1) 5:2 -Jester (LE0) 5:1
D3: (LE0) 5:1 -Patron (LE1) 4:1
D4: NK -Patron (LE1) 3:1 -Patron (LE2) 2:1
D5: NK -Patron 1:1 is game over


If this is how the game will play out, with us being forced into a situation where town only outnumber jesters by one regardless of how successful we are, does that counter-balance the difficulty of jesters needing to all be voted out? Hmmm
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Post Post #682 (isolation #64) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 1:16 pm

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In post 671, Something Cool wrote: plurality rules
In post 681, Something Cool wrote: I think mechanically optimal play is to no lim fast night until boon forces us to either lim or draw but that'd also probably kill all dayplay so I'd rather not
....

:igmeou:

*thinking more about that townread*
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Post Post #684 (isolation #65) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 1:27 pm

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OK apparently so, but I kind of doubt the setup was created with that in mind and seems like it could have high potential for totally messing with things... Like if the factional kill is replaced with more like arsonists that could be bad.
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Post Post #695 (isolation #66) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 2:47 pm

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In post 691, Night Lights wrote: VOTE: Drew

Can we do this over Alianna today
You have a stronger read on him?
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Post Post #696 (isolation #67) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 3:01 pm

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In post 664, Aureal wrote:
In post 663, Aureal wrote: Mmm

Black is more aggressively focused on her pushes as scum whereas
when town
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This was also a question directed at you, Python.
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Post Post #732 (isolation #68) » Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:52 pm

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In post 729, Alianna wrote:
In post 728, Doctor Drew wrote: Your name should be Black Sabbath, for as Paranoid as I would be about you two together.

Your welcome for the name, the least I could do
Admittedly had to Google that one.
:o

Drew, why are these people so young? :(
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Post Post #789 (isolation #69) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:58 am

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In post 783, Something Cool wrote:
In post 779, Night Lights wrote:
In post 772, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 769, Night Lights wrote:
Like if you are town then please run me through your thought process of wanting to end the Day before they catch up and share reads?
Because nothing will change except people get bored.
Wdym nothing will change? We should hear the opinions of all the players. If they are scum then we force them to give reads and thoughts about people. If they are town then we can use their reads and thoughts later when they flip

I just don't understand the logic of wanting to end the day before two people have shared their thoughts. It's an anti-town thought process
We don't need to find scum, we need to find 3 townies. Letting the game replacementspiral is worse for town than maybe missing someone who wasn't even a candidate for getting limmed post something kinda scummy

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We need to find more than 3 town if some of them get killed :shifty:
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Post Post #792 (isolation #70) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:01 am

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In post 787, Something Cool wrote:
In post 786, Night Lights wrote:
In post 783, Something Cool wrote: We don't need to find scum, we need to find 3 townies. Letting the game replacementspiral is worse for town than maybe missing someone who wasn't even a candidate for getting limmed post something kinda scummy

-Python
This argument sucks. If we find scum then that makes it even easier to secure three townies

We wait for T3 to talk. I think his slot has a decent chance of being scum and I want him to say more stuff
Literally everyone except for Alianna is gonna be here the next day, unless you think Alianna has something more to say then who cares

-Python
I'm really not finding your position to be very consistent here, you mostly seem confident it's a 7/2 with some form of nightkills available, then you post stuff like this :?
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Post Post #793 (isolation #71) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:04 am

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In post 790, Night Lights wrote:
Ya'll are frustrating


VOTE: Alianna
Awww, I was arguing with Python. :(

Don't worry though, I'll be throwing a pokeball at you next, you're towning it up too much ;)
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Post Post #796 (isolation #72) » Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:14 am

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I've never heard of this philosophy and Alianna flipping town here means the LE will be 1. :igmeou:
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Post Post #1030 (isolation #73) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:13 pm

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In post 1007, Boonskiies wrote: I say those who got enlightened (including Aureal) get like a half win.
Oh, I won as soon as a got a role that's both a paladin and a pirate. :cool:
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Post Post #1053 (isolation #74) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:13 pm

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In post 1049, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1047, KittyTacky wrote: I feel I failed this game.
In post 1048, Black wrote: Nah don't beat yourself up kitty. This was more of a scum win than a town loss imo. They played great
If there is anyone to blame it is Alianna, she is a policy lim now haha
But... She was a jester. Stop trying to help her newfound scum career! :o

GG to the jesters and mod though, I was greatly amused by the shenanigans :lol:
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Post Post #1059 (isolation #75) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:19 pm

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I didn't even get to vote this game, guys. You're all so impatient. :o

I guess it's appropriate. :lol:
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Post Post #1062 (isolation #76) » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:27 pm

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Hilarious but accurate! ;)
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