VOTE: ketchup777In post 17, ketchup777 wrote: no content? guys would you rather be a horse or a dung beetle
Srs vote find scum vote scum easy peasy.
VOTE: ketchup777In post 17, ketchup777 wrote: no content? guys would you rather be a horse or a dung beetle
The lack of rvs voting. Others were talking to people they knew and making rvs votes. Ketchup comes in no rvs voting and no talking to people they knew.In post 46, usesPython wrote:How is their posting meaningfully different from everyone else doing the same thingIn post 37, Political Clout wrote: First ketchup makes an entrance post that's nai imo. Then makes a joke post followed by a question that could only generate fluff followed by another joke post then now followed by another fluff post. Looks like they are just posting to post or looking to fit in.
That's going to be a huge my bad. It changes my entire analysis. One sec.In post 54, usesPython wrote:ketchup rvs'd koba though?In post 51, Political Clout wrote:The lack of rvs voting. Others were talking to people they knew and making rvs votes. Ketchup comes in no rvs voting and no talking to people they knew.In post 46, usesPython wrote:How is their posting meaningfully different from everyone else doing the same thingIn post 37, Political Clout wrote: First ketchup makes an entrance post that's nai imo. Then makes a joke post followed by a question that could only generate fluff followed by another joke post then now followed by another fluff post. Looks like they are just posting to post or looking to fit in.
Alternative theory didn't talk to anyone they knew because those players hadn't posted yet
So far I'm happy with my vote.
wasn't ketchup saying I was scum? odd.In post 134, ketchup777 wrote:I would neverIn post 127, Titus wrote:Don't like the fencesitting.In post 63, ketchup777 wrote:in tone but not in content methinks as disengagement tends to maf probably but who knowssss
VOTE: Titus
I think it's a joke hiding as a sick omgus vote.In post 165, Doctor Drew wrote:Didn't they explain that the Titus vote was a poor joke?In post 163, Political Clout wrote:wasn't ketchup saying I was scum? odd.In post 134, ketchup777 wrote:I would neverIn post 127, Titus wrote:Don't like the fencesitting.In post 63, ketchup777 wrote:in tone but not in content methinks as disengagement tends to maf probably but who knowssss
VOTE: Titus
i really thought I was cooking. it's alright if they are scum they will give me another opportunity. I think he might have slipped up on his vote on titus. why was he frustrated at that point in the game with only 2 people on him part joke vote part scum read? I'm not sure I buy it.In post 180, Ranger wrote:Disappointing. You had a good thing going.In post 160, Political Clout wrote:After considering it. I decided it was probably my alternative theory of them just being excited.
You have no idea how hard it is for me to get off of someone. To me it looks like you flailed from a slight push titus made.In post 213, ketchup777 wrote:The stuff sounded impressive but you’ve got the wrong person.In post 209, Political Clout wrote:i really thought I was cooking. it's alright if they are scum they will give me another opportunity. I think he might have slipped up on his vote on titus. why was he frustrated at that point in the game with only 2 people on him part joke vote part scum read? I'm not sure I buy it.In post 180, Ranger wrote:Disappointing. You had a good thing going.In post 160, Political Clout wrote:After considering it. I decided it was probably my alternative theory of them just being excited.
I feel like too much is being made of my Titus vote.
so you were very aware of where your vote was and wanted to move it?In post 220, ketchup777 wrote:a slight push is better than whyever the hell i voted KobaIn post 217, Political Clout wrote:You have no idea how hard it is for me to get off of someone. To me it looks like you flailed from a slight push titus made.In post 213, ketchup777 wrote:The stuff sounded impressive but you’ve got the wrong person.In post 209, Political Clout wrote:i really thought I was cooking. it's alright if they are scum they will give me another opportunity. I think he might have slipped up on his vote on titus. why was he frustrated at that point in the game with only 2 people on him part joke vote part scum read? I'm not sure I buy it.In post 180, Ranger wrote:Disappointing. You had a good thing going.In post 160, Political Clout wrote:After considering it. I decided it was probably my alternative theory of them just being excited.
I feel like too much is being made of my Titus vote.
Do scum ever make this kind of post? I think so. Trying to make people doubt their town reads.In post 93, light_ganski wrote:I'm not saying you're wrong, but this feels very prematureIn post 81, Black wrote:Not really, but I'm gut townreading his tone and his eagerness to reevaluate
In post 94, Black wrote:How? It's a gut read. I'm not locktowning himIn post 93, light_ganski wrote:I'm not saying you're wrong, but this feels very prematureIn post 81, Black wrote:Not really, but I'm gut townreading his tone and his eagerness to reevaluate
this is the only slightly interesting thing that happened on page 4 LG pushed black for her read on me then backed off immediately wasn't ready for the smoke.In post 95, light_ganski wrote: I see your point then
In post 106, Black wrote: VOTE: LG
I think the mindset displayed in 93 is probably more likely to come from scum. Scum don't want townies to find each other and it feels like she's bothered that I have a gut townread already
town points for these peeps.
This misunderstanding feels like it should never have happened dumbtelling tbh.In post 177, Ranger wrote:Which one was accompanied with a declaration of being a serious vote?In post 131, ketchup777 wrote: Is top of your list most scummy or least scummy?
I agreeIn post 178, Ranger wrote:I like this fire from JV, vibe it town, and agree.In post 141, JacksonVirgo wrote:How’s your first scum game going?
In post 230, light_ganski wrote:I actually though ketchup was newer than he is, but I'm still very inclined to townlean this way of thinkingIn post 127, Titus wrote:Don't like the fencesitting.In post 63, ketchup777 wrote:in tone but not in content methinks as disengagement tends to maf probably but who knowssss
I skipped paged 9 just light hedging their bets here.In post 234, light_ganski wrote:having just said that, this response makes me feel very nervy about ketchupIn post 134, ketchup777 wrote:I would neverIn post 127, Titus wrote:Don't like the fencesitting.In post 63, ketchup777 wrote:in tone but not in content methinks as disengagement tends to maf probably but who knowssss
VOTE: Titus
skipped a few pages nothing interesting. This is interesting to me though. How two players arrived at two different conclusions I thought it was more of a scummy post because of their next post where they vote jackson. how two players arrived at two different conclusions seems at cross purposes. what you think?In post 290, Laplacian wrote:townpostIn post 271, light_ganski wrote:again, I feel like the focus on ketchup is very much picking the low hanging fruitIn post 269, Black wrote:I did this a lot in my first game as scum :igmeou:In post 266, ketchup777 wrote: VOTE: Arko
Will let Titus further develop her not remembering me claim.In the meantime, I will mercilessly target the AFK slot.
these two aren't a team clearly. Lap just entered the game a few pages ago and then lg goes after them irony abounds.
I think this is wrong or a lie. Unless I am misremembering. let me look through pythons meta after I finish here.In post 436, DkKoba wrote: town python be big srs mode and scum python constantly cracks jokes and has trouble being serious
why?In post 456, Black wrote:python town
This is just a lie now imo.In post 470, DkKoba wrote: tbh this is potentially me being naive due to not knowing ketchup but i get the vibe that ketchup is like one of the most obviously town players here based on how holistic their posting feels, having no real bias with what they interact with or analyze and such.fits the archaetype of a town leader who is actively pushing the game forward.
so like pushing on ketchup feels like it requires suspension of reality in that it ignores the body of work theyve posted thus far
post feels weird especially after jackson called ketchup maybe town. Does drew just like to argue? I don't that true thinking about it now. I could be wrong on that though.In post 576, Doctor Drew wrote:Umm, you have made a big to do, and still are, that you are not tunneled even though you are..... that's what I mean.In post 563, JacksonVirgo wrote:I also have no idea what u mean hereIn post 558, Doctor Drew wrote: Wasn't that a big to do that you were yet you were saying you weren't?
Case in point what I posted, someone else said that this seems like ketchups town game, to which you responded 'you can't say that without comparing to their scum game(paraphrasing here)'. That is a tunneled response.
I even asked you if you have seen their scum game, because just throwing away evidence to someone being town without showing evidence to to contrary shows to me someone who is either severely tunneled as town.......or just simply scum.
So which one are you?
Ok back to work for real this time lol
which games? I'll look at 3 different ones see if we come to same conclusion.In post 655, DkKoba wrote:i skimmed 3 recent games and 2 of those were scum gamesIn post 652, Political Clout wrote:I think this is wrong or a lie. Unless I am misremembering. let me look through pythons meta after I finish here.In post 436, DkKoba wrote: town python be big srs mode and scum python constantly cracks jokes and has trouble being serious
i went through bonneytoonz open 888 and micro1079 the isos felt very serious in mini normal2316 A feels very loosey goosey? so maybe you're right.In post 659, DkKoba wrote:idr but there are 2 mafia games in recently completed like very recent lolIn post 657, Political Clout wrote:which games? I'll look at 3 different ones see if we come to same conclusion.In post 655, DkKoba wrote:i skimmed 3 recent games and 2 of those were scum gamesIn post 652, Political Clout wrote:I think this is wrong or a lie. Unless I am misremembering. let me look through pythons meta after I finish here.In post 436, DkKoba wrote: town python be big srs mode and scum python constantly cracks jokes and has trouble being serious
This certainly feels like a town post.In post 101, usesPython wrote:Drewpoints can only be redeemed by registered Drewidians, not sure if ketchup qualifiesIn post 98, Doctor Drew wrote:I did not expect the first Drew post of the game to come from someone else besides me lolIn post 97, ketchup777 wrote:because we can go with our true feelings and our mind will pick up from where it left off probably whereas (I imagine, haven't got to try it yet) mafia can easily slip up over who they had decided to fake suspicions onIn post 96, light_ganski wrote:why do you think town are *less* likely to make accidents and slips? considering that we are the uninformed faction? (i am aware this is kinda the opposite question of the one I asked black, but humour me)In post 72, ketchup777 wrote: I don’t think it was a lie, I believe it was an accident. I just think the accident is more likely to come from maf doing a half-hearted job of scumhunting than an awesomely excited very eager to catch all of the mafia townie (hi you’re going down mafalafs)
Town points for Ketchup, but will need Python for a proper analysis
(And ftr, for me personally I make sure my ducks are all in a row more as scum than town.......so Ketchup, I think you are looking at something NAI)
We actually wouldn't give townpoints here simply cause we're associating this read with having an underdeveloped understanding of how scum act which wouldn't really change based on what PM they got
I'm slightly confused what did you gain out of this?In post 146, Hu Tao wrote:I didn't actually think it was sus. I liedIn post 74, light_ganski wrote:join me on the jackson train hu taoIn post 43, Hu Tao wrote:SusIn post 31, JacksonVirgo wrote:Cuz I’m a wolf and we have a traitor I don’t wanna accidentally killIn post 30, light_ganski wrote:any particular reason you dont wanna go scumhunting jackson? :igmeou:
this doesn't feel like a towny post.In post 207, JacksonVirgo wrote:If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Early daysIn post 205, Black wrote:But you've been wrong about me twice very recently. Why are you not concerned that you could be wrong again?In post 202, JacksonVirgo wrote: I always happen to TR you
this also feels like a towny postIn post 588, Black wrote:Are you not curious at all why JV suddenly reversed course on you?In post 556, ketchup777 wrote: pedit: hell yeahhh
They seem to not really be playing the game. They ask questions but don't pursue the end of the thought imo and fail to sort people. The backed off blacks tr on me when black pushed back they backed off their black/jv theory when jv responded. Feels performative.In post 897, Laplacian wrote: @Political Clout the only reasons for your L_G vote seem to be from page 9. Was there anything else there that you didn't elaborate on?
well said, extremely profound and insightful like a bolt from the heavens really.In post 24, JacksonVirgo wrote: wdahdadwadwawhdiahdawidoawhdwa
Why did you vote ketchup here?In post 137, JacksonVirgo wrote: Completely unrelated
so, why are they town?In post 554, JacksonVirgo wrote: Okay I think ketchup actually is Town, not because of 552
I want to hear it from you.In post 918, JacksonVirgo wrote: Reading my ISO like you said you're doing would answer both of those
your explanation didn't really make sense to me.In post 921, JacksonVirgo wrote:Not interested in repeating myself for the sake of repeating myselfIn post 919, Political Clout wrote:I want to hear it from you.In post 918, JacksonVirgo wrote: Reading my ISO like you said you're doing would answer both of those
They're not 'deflecting because of the push,' 'push is meaningless,' 'trying to get me to be more productive,' 'scum reading them is useless,' 'want to do something to progress the game'.In post 592, JacksonVirgo wrote: They don't seem to be deflecting because of my push, the push is seemingly absolutely meaningless to him but instead he's trying to get me to be more productive in a way that they seem to truly think that scum-reading them is useless/meaningless and they want to actually do something to progress the game. I don't know how to put this into words properly
I think I believe you. You seem sincere and earnest. I should clarify your read seems sincere. but I'm thinking leaning town for now.In post 926, JacksonVirgo wrote:It's their focus that was elsewhere, it wasn't on the push at all. Deflecting would generally show their focus is at least somewhat on the push but it wasn't. I guess that's a way to word itIn post 923, Political Clout wrote:your explanation didn't really make sense to me.In post 921, JacksonVirgo wrote:Not interested in repeating myself for the sake of repeating myselfIn post 919, Political Clout wrote:I want to hear it from you.In post 918, JacksonVirgo wrote: Reading my ISO like you said you're doing would answer both of those
They're not 'deflecting because of the push,' 'push is meaningless,' 'trying to get me to be more productive,' 'scum reading them is useless,' 'want to do something to progress the game'.In post 592, JacksonVirgo wrote: They don't seem to be deflecting because of my push, the push is seemingly absolutely meaningless to him but instead he's trying to get me to be more productive in a way that they seem to truly think that scum-reading them is useless/meaningless and they want to actually do something to progress the game. I don't know how to put this into words properly
Wouldn't scum want you to think that scum reading them is useless? or are they doing it in a unique way or a towny way? I'm not sure I follow.
I called one of your posts not towny I should do due diligence and follow up and investigate yeah?In post 927, JacksonVirgo wrote:Why me in particular?In post 914, Political Clout wrote: let me iso jv brb
where am I here?In post 838, Laplacian wrote: reads list time
towny:
usesPython: great catch in 813. I can't see scum cross-referencing lists & pages like that.
ketchup: while I don't agree with their reads, they're actively trying to scumhunt and think
drew: good logic, I like how he argued with both usesPython and JV
neutral:
HT: i said they were towny earlier, but that dropped back to neutral after mischaracterizng me in JOAT.
JacksonVirgo: frustation over tunneling chat seems genuine. But I can't tell is frustration is from not wanting to admit tunnel or scum mad that their pushed collapsed. good taste in gifs tho
DkKoba: miller claim, ignore until d3 unless something super scummy happens
scummy:
Ranger: still dont like dem magic lists. Super easy to fake the progression to just coast along with prevailing opinions while looking like you're scumhunting
light_ganski: see 827
Everyone else either has low posts or I'm having trouble reading still.
for some reason my first instinct was that it was scummy that laplacian forgot me or am I just being sensitive?In post 838, Laplacian wrote: reads list time
towny:
usesPython: great catch in 813. I can't see scum cross-referencing lists & pages like that.
ketchup: while I don't agree with their reads, they're actively trying to scumhunt and think
drew: good logic, I like how he argued with both usesPython and JV
neutral:
HT: i said they were towny earlier, but that dropped back to neutral after mischaracterizng me in JOAT.
JacksonVirgo: frustation over tunneling chat seems genuine. But I can't tell is frustration is from not wanting to admit tunnel or scum mad that their pushed collapsed. good taste in gifs tho
DkKoba: miller claim, ignore until d3 unless something super scummy happens
scummy:
Ranger: still dont like dem magic lists. Super easy to fake the progression to just coast along with prevailing opinions while looking like you're scumhunting
light_ganski: see 827
Everyone else either has low posts or I'm having trouble reading still.
I for the life of me can't see how any of this is alignment indicative.In post 838, Laplacian wrote: reads list time
towny:
usesPython: great catch in 813. I can't see scum cross-referencing lists & pages like that.
ketchup: while I don't agree with their reads, they're actively trying to scumhunt and think
drew: good logic, I like how he argued with both usesPython and JV
neutral:
HT: i said they were towny earlier, but that dropped back to neutral after mischaracterizng me in JOAT.
JacksonVirgo: frustation over tunneling chat seems genuine. But I can't tell is frustration is from not wanting to admit tunnel or scum mad that their pushed collapsed. good taste in gifs tho
DkKoba: miller claim, ignore until d3 unless something super scummy happens
scummy:
Ranger: still dont like dem magic lists. Super easy to fake the progression to just coast along with prevailing opinions while looking like you're scumhunting
light_ganski: see 827
Everyone else either has low posts or I'm having trouble reading still.
we can talk about ketchup but I don't know. I feel like it might be a bit unproductive.In post 955, DkKoba wrote: can someone talk to me about ketchup btw
what convinced you to vote ganski?
can you expand on this. I guess I do wanna talk about ketchup.In post 964, DkKoba wrote:im ngl i reread their ISO and i immediately was like "nah this is not scum lol" lmaoIn post 962, Political Clout wrote:we can talk about ketchup but I don't know. I feel like it might be a bit unproductive.In post 955, DkKoba wrote: can someone talk to me about ketchup btw
ketchup has basically been all over this game and in a way that suggests independence and uninformedness. like if theyre scum who is it with? i guess one could make the argument with me but obviously I personally otherwise would be unable to see that argument xd
although my uneasy feeling could very well be from the fact there might be a traitor/traitors and thus we are among somewhat uninformed scum. idk.
I'm calling bull.In post 984, Laplacian wrote:You're in the "Everyone else either has low posts orIn post 947, Political Clout wrote:where am I here?In post 838, Laplacian wrote: reads list time
towny:
usesPython: great catch in 813. I can't see scum cross-referencing lists & pages like that.
ketchup: while I don't agree with their reads, they're actively trying to scumhunt and think
drew: good logic, I like how he argued with both usesPython and JV
neutral:
HT: i said they were towny earlier, but that dropped back to neutral after mischaracterizng me in JOAT.
JacksonVirgo: frustation over tunneling chat seems genuine. But I can't tell is frustration is from not wanting to admit tunnel or scum mad that their pushed collapsed. good taste in gifs tho
DkKoba: miller claim, ignore until d3 unless something super scummy happens
scummy:
Ranger: still dont like dem magic lists. Super easy to fake the progression to just coast along with prevailing opinions while looking like you're scumhunting
light_ganski: see 827
Everyone else either has low posts or I'm having trouble reading still.I'm having trouble reading still". Was the main reason I asked about your LG vote, since I wanted to see the thought process and try to get you more
you should have done your homework and counted my posts I only had 27 when you posted your reads list so I also would have accepted your first reason that I hadn't posted enough. I believe you less now.In post 995, Laplacian wrote:I treat neutral as "I have thought about them a bunch but I'm still not sure what's going on" or "you did something towny but then you did something scummy and they've cancelled out". DkKoba's in neutral because miller claim. HT had town vibes and then mischaracterized stuff hard. Neutral to me is "there's some shit going on with them, but I'm not sure how to resolve it yet", not no information. Tossing people in neutral because I haven't found anything interesting to discuss yet is just a waste of spaceIn post 993, Political Clout wrote: I would have accepted it slipped my mind. I forgor oopsie. if you're having trouble reading me why am I not in the neutral bin as I assume that is what it's there for.
do you just want to argue? where's your vote for lap?In post 1011, Doctor Drew wrote:You don't think it is easy to find a viable fake claim with this?In post 1004, Political Clout wrote: disloyal does appear in the thread aliana linked.
I mean, why would you think they would fake claim something NOT in that thread?
VOTE: rangerIn post 1230, usesPython wrote:what do you mean by thisIn post 1228, Political Clout wrote: Lap should have been the only real cop anyone making allusions to that should probably be voted