In post 1001, implosion wrote:
You can talk about replace-outs after they happen (I think, I could be forgetting something but don't think I am). I personally think it's a good idea to never ascribe meaning to them on principle. I think it makes the game less fun but also essentially the rules right now are designed so that it is minimally possible to learn anything about the replacee from their replacing out, since they aren't allowed to say anything about it, so it's fundamentally a hard place to learn anything concrete.
Oh we can talk about this stuff? In that case, yes I think Andante is town because they replaced out, and this is a meta read based on previous Andante replace outs. I will show my work:
In
Music hits of 2010-2014 Andante was town and they replaced out shortly after making this post:
In post 1967, Andante wrote:
cause when I go "here's my reads up to post 100" and people start attacking me like "WTF???" it's just like, chill out... reads evolve as you keep reading... but hey yall basically told me to stop so I did, and I'm here in live time
The players in that game had this to say about that replace out:
In post 1996, angela wrote:
have recent past experience with andante leaving in a very similar manner as town
so yes, of course i don't
In
House of the Dragon Andante was town and they replaced out shortly after making this post:
In post 3503, Andante wrote:
none of yall even have a legit reason to sr Johnny... I don't have many confident reads, but johnny is town, thanks.
The players in that game had this to say about that replace out:
In post 3544, Thestatusquo wrote:
I have been informed by datisi that andante has done the replace out when questioned before as town so I'mma slow my roll just a little bit.
VOTE: unvote
In post 3548, Andresvmb wrote:
To be fair, Andante wasn’t really getting their way and they didn’t have tremendous influence, so it could be that just as it could be the back and forth.
In
TM 2023 | Open: PYP S_TM Andante was mafia and they replaced out shortly after
claiming VT. I don't really have a specific post to point to from andante here, but it should be noted that Andante is being pressured by several other players to finish their claim (what they picked in this setup)
The players in that game had this to say about that replace out:
In post 3399, Ythan wrote:
Alisae we wonder if Andante is so easy to read and obviously town why are you asking if we're gonna wait?
Alisae we have a theory Andante is a scum PR that doesn't know what to guess. I can immediately cc if she guesses wrong.
Note that Andante almost immediately
signed up for a new game a mere 5 hours after replacing out of that one, so there can be no argument that Andante simply did not have time to play the game.
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My conclusions here: Andante will replace out for 2 reasons:
1. Other players are not listening to what they are pushing and they don't like that.
2. Other players are pushing them and they don't like that.
In the first game above, they replace out for reason 1. In the 2nd and 3rd games, it is for reason 2. I think the first reason above can only come from a town perspective, while the second reason can come from either alignment. In this game, I'd argue the replace out was due to reason 1: they didn't like that their reasoning wasn't sheeped, and somebody they thought was town was eliminated instead.
So I think they replaced out for a reason, and that the reason can only come from town, and that they very rarely, if ever, actually replace out in a "nai" way, or due to real life circumstances instead of their thoughts on the current game. So Andante's slot is almost always town in this game.