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In post 21, Klick wrote:
It's a preemptive offensive play when one wasn't really needed
so you think I am preempting you on page one of RVS when I don't need to because?
In post 24, Aristeia wrote:
like why does scum!me need to pre-empt you again? Do you think scum!me would fear town!you ? why?
These were the initial posts that pinged me, but I decided to hold back for a bit (which Dann can verify)
These just don't seem like a natural way to react on literally page one. I know Ari is defensive but these posts just read like they are trying to start something that doesn't exist.
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Post #98 (isolation #4) » Wed Sep 13, 2023 1:31 pm
Postby SirCakez »
In post 96, SirCakez wrote:
Ari immediately slapping the meta button and being like omg why would Cakez do this doesn't make me want to move my vote
Like Ari herself pointed out that when I pushed her recently it backfired terribly. Why would I immediately repeat the same mistake as scum? But she called me agendaed for it.
In post 96, SirCakez wrote:
Ari immediately slapping the meta button and being like omg why would Cakez do this doesn't make me want to move my vote
Like Ari herself pointed out that when I pushed her recently it backfired terribly. Why would I immediately repeat the same mistake as scum? But she called me agendaed for it.
I dunno but you've seen me interrogate people who push me so its weird to me you think its unnatural for me to do it to Klick.
Klicks posts didn't even read as a push to me, it looked like page 1 rvs bs. That's why it feels so odd.
In post 96, SirCakez wrote:
Ari immediately slapping the meta button and being like omg why would Cakez do this doesn't make me want to move my vote
Like Ari herself pointed out that when I pushed her recently it backfired terribly. Why would I immediately repeat the same mistake as scum? But she called me agendaed for it.
I dunno but you've seen me interrogate people who push me so its weird to me you think its unnatural for me to do it to Klick.
Klicks posts didn't even read as a push to me, it looked like page 1 rvs bs. That's why it feels so odd.
well thats why i asked him about his "omgus scummy af" line
i didnt know if it was a push or a rvs joke
he then doubled down on it being a push
I just reread pages 2 and 3 and I don't really see where he doubled down on this. He called you defensive at one point but then said he thought you were like mildly
scum leaning
In post 98, SirCakez wrote:
Like Ari herself pointed out that when I pushed her recently it backfired terribly. Why would I immediately repeat the same mistake as scum? But she called me agendaed for it.
like are you actually making the case "hey i did this thing of shitpushing Ari as scum" and she absolutely murdered me for it.
thus i would not do it again because it ended so badly!
Also ari who has already experienced being shitpushed by me as scum on D1 has no reason to suspect I would do the same move again because it failed last time.
Like that's some pretty hideous logic.
if I know you have the capability of making a shitpush d1 as scum on me, you doing it again is the first thing I suspect because you've shown a capacity and preference for it in the past.
This doesn't make any sense. I'm not great at mafia but I'm not bad enough to the point where I'm going to repeat a tactic that failed like two months ago. Do you really think I came in here as scum with a game plan to immediately stir shit with you? What kind of plan would that be? What would my goal even be? We both know that I'm not going to be able to get anywhere close to elimming you by myself
In post 98, SirCakez wrote:
Like Ari herself pointed out that when I pushed her recently it backfired terribly. Why would I immediately repeat the same mistake as scum? But she called me agendaed for it.
like are you actually making the case "hey i did this thing of shitpushing Ari as scum" and she absolutely murdered me for it.
thus i would not do it again because it ended so badly!
Also ari who has already experienced being shitpushed by me as scum on D1 has no reason to suspect I would do the same move again because it failed last time.
Like that's some pretty hideous logic.
if I know you have the capability of making a shitpush d1 as scum on me, you doing it again is the first thing I suspect because you've shown a capacity and preference for it in the past.
This doesn't make any sense. I'm not great at mafia but I'm not bad enough to the point where I'm going to repeat a tactic that failed like two months ago. Do you really think I came in here as scum with a game plan to immediately stir shit with you? What kind of plan would that be? What would my goal even be? We both know that I'm not going to be able to get anywhere close to elimming you by myself
I think you saw me at a number of votes, you thought it would be good to elim me, and then you decided to vote me and made up an excuse to do so.
I certainly do not believe you think my treatment of Klick is "unnatural" as you put it since you have literally seen me do it to you when scum!you shitpushed town me.
You are now using refuge in audacity as a defense by saying that pushing me is so dangerous that you wouldn't do it as scum.
This is a basic logical fallacy and an excuse used by scum players to justify shady looking votes with little to no reasoning.
Also it doesn't make sense for you to try to convince me that you're town who thinks I'm mafia as my plan is to flip myself and Klick on D1. If I'm scum as you claim to believe and I turn scum, I think you would hardly need to worry about the town listening to a flipped scum ari. Your attitude towards me can only make sense if you think I'm town.
you were at a "number of votes" on page two
where am i going to get the thought process that oh I can elim Ari here with these votes. that just is not going to happen.
im arguing with you because you're calling me scum for bad reasons. i don't really like taking that stuff sitting down.
In post 119, SirCakez wrote:
I don't even have a take on Klicks push itself honestly, it seems pretty mid to me and it's not a factor in my read on Ari
ok so you think I'm mafia do you oppose me pairing with klick and flipping both of our slots then?
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Post #234 (isolation #15) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 4:19 am
Postby SirCakez »
In post 149, yessiree wrote:
cakez immediately coming to the defense of Klick just screams scum tactic strongarming the conflict and trying to take control of the narrative
i don't even have a take on klick right now, ftr and i'm down with ari's proposed plan to elim her and Klick
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Post #536 (isolation #22) » Sat Sep 16, 2023 4:07 pm
Postby SirCakez »
basically i don't think Ari is scum anymore, I've been thinking about it for a few days which dann can confirm
and now we have a red flip so we can find something interesting
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Post #538 (isolation #23) » Sat Sep 16, 2023 4:09 pm
Postby SirCakez »
I bet the entire Ari/Klick/me argument from early game was town because if you iso yessiree they were obviously trying to stir the pot and elim Klick first
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Post #571 (isolation #25) » Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:06 pm
Postby SirCakez »
Klick Dann are my strong town reads right now
Ari and RH9 a level below that
Ausuka and Meuh and Infinity this is null and down
Ydrasse/Alisae definitely looking the most sketch rn
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Post #580 (isolation #27) » Mon Sep 18, 2023 3:42 am
Postby SirCakez »
I mean to me they both look like scum giving up
We have a red flip on the first elim and they've both been basically absent since, just look at the last two pages
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