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Bwahhh I'm trying to read Ari independent of meta but it's just NOT WORKING
Like I am looking at her ISO and each post I am trying to think whether it could be a real thought or it's a fake one
But I keep not answering it and instead saying "yeah this is something scum!ari could say" (meta)
FFS brain, shut up about meta for one second-
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You forgot the word "before"In post 1679, Black wrote: Meta this, meta that, have you ever meta girl?
But that's the whole point, I am trying to look at things without meta and my brain is REFUSING to do it.-
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You're evilIn post 1680, Aristeia wrote:In post 1677, DragonEater70 wrote: Ari explain thse last 3 posts???
I'm messing with you because it's funny-
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The fact that it's Meuh is why you should townlock her instead of weak TRing her.-
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What makes me "trying to appear solvy" instead of just town trying to progress the game?-
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Okay I have no idea what's going on with Ari
This isn't town ari's OR scum ari's meta-
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Truly haveIn post 1692, Aristeia wrote:
the royal dragon has been put into the royal bbq grill by the queenIn post 1679, Black wrote: Meta this, meta that, have you ever meta girl?
I will make my exit now and come back when I am less embarrassed-
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No, I was running away from youIn post 1696, Aristeia wrote: dragoneater running away from firebringer because he can't handle the heat
I can totally handle Firebringer
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So it's interesting that you say I don't have frustration. I felt I was being frustrated earlier when nobody was voting yess, then after that I sort of didn't really fully think about the game and it was at the back burber for a while so maybe I wasn't really feeling a whole lot about it. Right now I am in fact frustrated and if you noticed I am trying to engage with you to find a new wagon because I am not happy about the current ones and I also tried to ISO dive Ari and I will continue to do so shortly.In post 1693, Firebringer wrote:
I don't feel like you are actually interested in pushing the game forward. I think you are doing it to appear like you care. Theres no urgency or pressure for things actually happen from what I looked at. I would think I would see more frustration of lack of things happening from town!DE to whats going on. But you seem pretty content while continuing on.In post 1689, DragonEater70 wrote: What makes me "trying to appear solvy" instead of just town trying to progress the game?
In essence. You are out of place for the amount of ~effort~ your putting in. So it seems like fake effort.
Like just to be clear, I am not trying to discredit your claim that I am not frustrated, I am trying to explaim how come you get that imoression and also that I am now starting again to be frustrated.
Yeah Ari was trolling me so I was trying to figure out of she was actually scumreading me or what. Then she said it was a troll so I gave up on that. I will go back to ISO diving her now.In post 1695, Firebringer wrote: Also scum have no incentive to actually continue to press the game forward and when you could make waves to try to force this game forward. You go for the option of blending in with the joke posts. Instead of honing in to focus on pressing someone like you are doing with Ari right now. You just put out question of how she is playing but went immediately to joking with her.
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Okay
If we try our best to ignore meta (and this is HARD), I'd say Ari is like nulltown. I feel a lot of her posting is something that she could easily fake as scum (and this is not a meta read, it's simply a comment about the posting itself), but I do feel there's enough townvibes, solviness, and towny frustration that it gives me pause from actually scumreading her.
It's actually a very frustrating ISO to read (no fire, I am not saying this to appease you).-
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Fire who do you wanna wagon right now? If you don't give me a straight answer I will unironically jump on your wagon.-
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Dang it, how did they find outIn post 1710, Firebringer wrote: look at dragoneater try to appease me
(I just realized I have no idea what your pronouns are)-
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OkayIn post 1712, Firebringer wrote: ill give u a serious response tomorrow dragon, I am tired and now going to bed-
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Didn't you say you are going to sleep
And I would jump on a wagon with you because I want to drive the game forward. I'd jump on your wagon if you resist driving the game forward.-
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Like
I feel there's a need for a fresh wagon because it's sort of been going in circles between yess and Titus and yourself. So I want a fresh wagon and I had been townreading you so I am asking who do you want to wagon
But then if you are just gonna call me scum for not advancing the game, without actually starting a wagon (on me or anybody else), then I do actually think that's scummy of you. Hopefully that explains it.-
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davesaz didn't replace RCE?In post 1681, Firebringer wrote:
davesaz.. I am putting weak here because I think theres some points RCEnigma had on the way that I got defended and was pushing that was both out of place and not very townie. Davesaz I got no opinion on tbh.Weak Scum Lean
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Okay maybe that's a stupid reason to scumread you but I am currently running out of wagons and I just want a good wagon.-
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Fun fact, I started typing out the above post and then I realized it's word for word what I would post as scum in this situation. I posted it anyway because I frankly don't care, it does reflect my current thoughts accurately.-
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Scum case her thenIn post 1719, davesaz wrote: I don't like how Aristeia gets a free pass. Similar to the free pass that Hu Tao gets.-
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Sorry I get you
Let me put this differently
dave if you don't like Ari getting a free pass, you should poke her for reads.-
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Meh, horrible post
Let me try a third time
If you don't like her getting a free pass, do something about it-
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VOTE: dave
Not the most exciting wagon, but this could work I guess.-
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In post 1852, Meuh wrote:
Heeheehee, okay I believe you!In post 1849, davesaz wrote:
This type of question always cracks me up.In post 1845, Meuh wrote: Dave are you town?
Yes
I'll just sheep my n0In post 1853, Meuh wrote:
Vote Titus then, free winIn post 1850, Naerys wrote: i just decided i will win this game in Black´s honor
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Imagine ignoring every single post I made this vame except one bad vote which you also ignore the context for, and thinking you can figure out my alignment from that one contextless vote.In post 1754, Hu Tao wrote:
I think dragon is scumIn post 1751, Aristeia wrote:
what do you think of dragoneater telling davey to scumcase me and then when I point out lol davey doesnt even have as much content as me deciding to vote for davey.In post 1749, Hu Tao wrote:In post 1725, DragonEater70 wrote:
Scum case her thenIn post 1719, davesaz wrote: I don't like how Aristeia gets a free pass. Similar to the free pass that Hu Tao gets.-
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I was already feeling guilty for it, now I am feeling extra guiltyIn post 1858, Firebringer wrote: She figured out her pet dragon was stealing from her and couldn't deal with the betrayal-
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Yeah I agree with you there's no reason to continue the discussion
I also feel kinda lost here-
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Okay good pointIn post 1867, Firebringer wrote: giving reads and takes and asking for engagement on those reads and takes.
I will do so.-
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Okay here's my reads from most likely to be correct to least likely to be correct (NOT from towniest to scummiest):
Confident:
Meuh- N0 inno, deep in town meta, I just don't think scum Meuh posts half of what Meuh posted this game (not an attempt to insult Meuh's capabilities as scum). This is very obvious town and I will eat my hat if I'm wrong.
Gamma- yeah.
Python- yeah.
Probably correct:
Firebringer- I feel like they are actually pretty sincere about their thought process in a way that scum!fire probably wouldn't be? I may be completely wrong on that but I do think I am *probably* correct.
davesaz- I have correctly identified him as scum by tonereading him in two different past games, and he definitely doesn't have the same tone here, so it's pretty likely he's not scum.
furtive- I was scumreading here earlier, I still feel slightly concerned since furtive is not being the same solvey energy to the table as in Love Child, but I don't actually see anything scum indicative from this slot and I do think some of his posts sound pretty innocent so I think this is probably town.
gob- I didn't really put a lot of thought into this read.
My read here could change any moment:
yessiree- Idk I still think he's ooenwolfing but I also saw some towny posts by him so maybe I am just tunneled.
Ari- yeah.
RCE- yeah IDK I guess I could maybe see his thought process as town but right now I think it's scum.
I'm really unconfident about these reads and frankly not sure why I even have them:
Naerys- Honestly maybe I should scumlean her instead because her behavior toward my slot is kinda sus, but I feel like the posting is par for the cpurse for Naerys?
Titus- just sheeping Meuh and Hu Tao
Black- I don't think I really tried to sort Black this game. Which I guess means I am pocketed? I should probably try to sort her replacement. Could definitely be scum I guess.
I would be lying if I said I had a real read here:
Hu Tao - I don't think she's really done anything AI, though maybe that fact by itself makes me slightly townlean her.
Theta - kinda forgot this slot even existed
Bella - ditto. I guess of I HAD to say I would be townleaning her but I don't really think it would be justified.-
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I am going to use this list to decide who I should be sorting, starting from the bottom 3 and going up-
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Wait
Did Naerys ever answer my question to her
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Pedit: I am sheeoing people (i.e you) who I trust have good read accuracy on gob.-
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@Naerys please answer thisIn post 1436, DragonEater70 wrote: Wait what
Why is Naerys on yessiree
In fact, why is Naerys the first one on yessiree
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Oh then nvmIn post 1888, Firebringer wrote: i put gob in a extremely weak scum read grouping....im not confident on jack shit for gob lol
I don't have a read on gob-
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I'll believe thatIn post 1891, Naerys wrote:
Bcz yessiree was my suspect? I didnt really like ( i still dont) the way yessiree was playing so i remained there. Now i moved to Hu Tao bcz she is sus and needs to feel some pressureIn post 1889, DragonEater70 wrote:
@Naerys please answer thisIn post 1436, DragonEater70 wrote: Wait what
Why is Naerys on yessiree
In fact, why is Naerys the first one on yessiree
In fact, why has Naerys only voted on page 8 as a meme and never changed her vote since then
Here, I sorted a slot.
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Naerys, can you exolain to me wyour full read on Hu Tao and how did she become scummier than yess?-
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Hmm it's late, hopefully Naerys answers at some point, good night for now.-
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I see
Do you have a take on Ari and/or Fire? Ineterested in your thoughts on these two slots because I had been going back and forth about them for a while.-
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I think this is a town!dave thoughtIn post 1902, davesaz wrote: Taking a closer look, I'm less sure of Naerys resembling prior games.
I also happen to agree with said thought.-
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Gamma who are your scum reads right now?In post 1900, Gamma Emerald wrote:
It’s because I made an empty post to steal pagetopIn post 1875, Firebringer wrote: davesaz reads from what i gathered since he can't make it easily accessible:
Gamma - town (was voting her for some reason at one point i don't get it)
Pedit: lol-
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Dang only now I realized how un-caught up I am
Like I have zero clue what's going on
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Could you tell me who? Because I have the opposite problem, sort of.In post 1908, Gamma Emerald wrote: I’m not sure how I feel rn
There are players that I feel are scum in some moments but I want to believe are town in others-
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@NaerysIn post 1903, DragonEater70 wrote: Do you have a take on Ari and/or Fire? Ineterested in your thoughts on these two slots because I had been going back and forth about them for a while.-
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Nah I don't think vanity wagons will get us anywhere in this gamestate
We should sort the null slots and then townblock and shred the PoE.
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How about you help me sort the nulls instead? And then we can wagon whomever you want.In post 1914, usesPython wrote:
Turn it into a real wagon thenIn post 1913, DragonEater70 wrote:Nah I don't think vanity wagons will get us anywhere in this gamestate
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I am very smart and can form conclusions about people's alignments based on things they post, especially when they have easy to read meta and are not the world's best scum players.In post 1917, Naerys wrote:
And how do you know that? Weird wordingIn post 1913, DragonEater70 wrote: For example, did you know davesaz is town this game?-
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We WILL wagon them. Just LATER.In post 1919, usesPython wrote:
Sort the nulls but don't wagon themIn post 1918, DragonEater70 wrote:
How about you help me sort the nulls instead? And then we can wagon whomever you want.In post 1914, usesPython wrote:
Turn it into a real wagon thenIn post 1913, DragonEater70 wrote:Nah I don't think vanity wagons will get us anywhere in this gamestate
Didn't you read my back and forth with Fire?-
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What's scummy about Fire?In post 1915, Naerys wrote:
Ari feels towny, i have got a feeling she is genuinly engaged in the gameIn post 1912, DragonEater70 wrote:
@NaerysIn post 1903, DragonEater70 wrote: Do you have a take on Ari and/or Fire? Ineterested in your thoughts on these two slots because I had been going back and forth about them for a while.
FB- light scummy vibes
but not certain in either case, i feel more confident with players i have already finished few games-
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