Open 897 - Cop 17er [DAY 6]

[Firebringer]

davesaz reads from what i gathered since he can't make it easily accessible:
Gamma - town (was voting her for some reason at one point i don't get it)
Black - Town
Titus - Scum
RCEnigam - Town
Hua Toa - Concerned (not clarified if this is a scumread)
Ari - Concerned (not clarified if this is a scumread)
Theta - Town (personal note: makes me want to dig into Theta now)
yessirre - is acting. No indication if its NAI/scummy etc. Could use follow up here
Gob - didn't ever give reads list before. Seemed interested in this as something to chase but doesn't follow up on. Not sure what read is here if any

So I see 5 reads with a lot of clarifications needed so you tell me where I am missing the other 5 davesaz

[RCEnigma]

It’s gonna be kinda out there but yessirs play is a violent 180 from the townplay I’m used to seeing out of them, I’ve only played against them as scum though. So much so that I don’t see such a drastic play difference as coming from scum. I’d expect some kind of emulation of their town game if they were. So that’s where I’m at.

Yes, it's out there. You don't give any thought to scum 180ing from town play in order to avoid the issue of being close but not close enough?

There’s a lot of self awareness that goes into making the choice to do that from the beginning of the game. The go to for scum is, for the large majority of players, to emulate their town game.

[Firebringer]

Meuh feels weak town by interaction.
Naerys seems the same as she does as town, but I don't think I have seen a scum game and wouldn't put a lot of confidence on this.

Two more reads. You increased reads list by 40%!

[Naerys]

Naerys seems the same as she does as town, but I don't think I have seen a scum game

bcz i have none

[RCEnigma]

Siri, play despacito.

I'm totally out of touch with whatever meaning this has, if any.

The kids call it a meme.

[RCEnigma]

Having to explain gen z memes gives me weird feelings

I too, feel gross after being part of it.

[davesaz]

"why them not me?"

This is mostly an accumulated ~50 years of not fitting in way too often.

[davesaz]

since he

can't

hadn't yet

make it easily accessible:

Edit for accuracy.

[DragonEater70]

Okay here's my reads from most likely to be correct to least likely to be correct (NOT from towniest to scummiest):

Confident:

Meuh

- N0 inno, deep in town meta, I just don't think scum Meuh posts half of what Meuh posted this game (not an attempt to insult Meuh's capabilities as scum). This is very obvious town and I will eat my hat if I'm wrong.

Gamma

- yeah.

Python

- yeah.

Probably correct:

Firebringer

- I feel like they are actually pretty sincere about their thought process in a way that scum!fire probably wouldn't be? I may be completely wrong on that but I do think I am *probably* correct.

davesaz

- I have correctly identified him as scum by tonereading him in two different past games, and he definitely doesn't have the same tone here, so it's pretty likely he's not scum.

furtive

- I was scumreading here earlier, I still feel slightly concerned since furtive is not being the same solvey energy to the table as in Love Child, but I don't actually see anything scum indicative from this slot and I do think some of his posts sound pretty innocent so I think this is probably town.

gob

- I didn't really put a lot of thought into this read.

My read here could change any moment:

yessiree

- Idk I still think he's ooenwolfing but I also saw some towny posts by him so maybe I am just tunneled.

Ari

- yeah.

RCE

- yeah IDK I guess I could maybe see his thought process as town but right now I think it's scum.

I'm really unconfident about these reads and frankly not sure why I even have them:

Naerys

- Honestly maybe I should scumlean her instead because her behavior toward my slot is kinda sus, but I feel like the posting is par for the cpurse for Naerys?

Titus

- just sheeping Meuh and Hu Tao

Black

- I don't think I really tried to sort Black this game. Which I guess means I am pocketed? I should probably try to sort her replacement. Could definitely be scum I guess.

I would be lying if I said I had a real read here:

Hu Tao - I don't think she's really done anything AI, though maybe that fact by itself makes me slightly townlean her.

Theta - kinda forgot this slot even existed

Bella - ditto. I guess of I HAD to say I would be townleaning her but I don't really think it would be justified.

[DragonEater70]

Looks I really nailed the rule of 3 in this post tbh.

[DragonEater70]

I am going to use this list to decide who I should be sorting, starting from the bottom 3 and going up

[Firebringer]

gob - I didn't really put a lot of thought into this read.

why is this probably correct if ur not putting a lot of thought here

[DragonEater70]

Wait

Did Naerys ever answer my question to her

One sec

Pedit: I am sheeoing people (i.e you) who I trust have good read accuracy on gob.

[Firebringer]

i put gob in a extremely weak scum read grouping....im not confident on jack shit for gob lol

[DragonEater70]

Wait what

Why is Naerys on yessiree

In fact, why is Naerys the first one on yessiree

In fact, why has Naerys only voted on page 8 as a meme and never changed her vote since then

@Naerys please answer this

[DragonEater70]

i put gob in a extremely weak scum read grouping....im not confident on jack shit for gob lol

Oh then nvm

I don't have a read on gob

[Naerys]

Wait what

Why is Naerys on yessiree

In fact, why is Naerys the first one on yessiree

In fact, why has Naerys only voted on page 8 as a meme and never changed her vote since then

@Naerys please answer this

Bcz yessiree was my suspect? I didnt really like ( i still dont) the way yessiree was playing so i remained there. Now i moved to Hu Tao bcz she is sus and needs to feel some pressure

[davesaz]

davesaz
Black n0. scum queen thing felt uncomfortable but I can see how confident town player can pull it off

Gamma Emerald Both meta and gameplay feel town
Meuh mostly vibe
Theta Alpine very difficult to read, approach to game seems town
RCEnigma I would expect inorganic reads if scum, these seem more accurate than not
Naerys Haven't noticed any departures from her usual, but this is a weak lean given lack of scum games to compare with.

DragonEater70 Feel is primarily town but the quantity is large enough that I haven't absorbed it. I like to keep people null till I fully understand what they're doing
Firebringer The claiming scum thing is within scum range. Approach to game seems solvy. Will need some VCA or a better feel of whether interactions are genuine
Aristeia I don't see anything either overtly town or scum.
Hu Tao Acting null on purpose, which is easily within range for either alignment so null she is.
gob I flat out don't know how to read gob.
usesPython I've read a lot of stuff which didn't really register one way or the other.

Bellaphant There isn't enough material to truly read this slot, scum lean on lack of proactive hunting
furtiveglance Very weak lean. Does not seem as inquisitive as previous games.

yessiree Felt off but I have a hard time saying exactly why. More a least town feel than a most scum.
Titus Something is missing. I'll feel bad if the reason it's missing is RL, but I have to call the posts the way I see them.

[DragonEater70]

Wait what

Why is Naerys on yessiree

In fact, why is Naerys the first one on yessiree

In fact, why has Naerys only voted on page 8 as a meme and never changed her vote since then

@Naerys please answer this

Bcz yessiree was my suspect? I didnt really like ( i still dont) the way yessiree was playing so i remained there. Now i moved to Hu Tao bcz she is sus and needs to feel some pressure

I'll believe that

Here, I sorted a slot.

(yeah I know, this is like the most blatant openwolfing I could ever do)

[DragonEater70]

Nah okay let's actually sort Naerys

[DragonEater70]

Naerys, can you exolain to me wyour full read on Hu Tao and how did she become scummier than yess?

[DragonEater70]

Wow I shouldn't play mafia on my phone.

[Naerys]

Naerys, can you exolain to me wyour full read on Hu Tao and how did she become scummier than yess?

I dont like her bossing around. Could be scum trying to intimidate us. Plus general unhelpfulness makes me wish to sort that slot first.

[DragonEater70]

Oh okay

So you don't scumread her more than yess?

[DragonEater70]

Hmm it's late, hopefully Naerys answers at some point, good night for now.