Open 820: The Siege of Aurelia — Game Over!
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Hi seal food... I mean Penguin!In post 16, PenguinPower wrote:-
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I'm not sure whether that's supposed to be a townread or a scumread.In post 19, unwnd wrote:Right now I would put T3 at the Keep as a preemptive take-
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I orginally thought this was scummy, but then I thought it was towny, now I realize this is NAI
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Congrats. You are scum who has pulled reads out of your ass.In post 37, implosion wrote:unwnd is quite town for page 2. catboi to a lesser extent.
I think there's some amount of advantage we could eke out by controlling where people go but I think we also can get a fair amount of useful info just from where people decide to go on their own. unwnd, since you were specifically worried as scum about town's options to synchronize, I'm curious what exactly you didn't want town to have the option to do.-
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*says that in main thread*In post 40, unwnd wrote:
Yeah I'm willing to divulge a bit. I'm sure scum is already aware of it, but there's a mechanic that allows them to switch people. This works in town's favor as well however givenIn post 37, implosion wrote:unwnd is quite town for page 2. catboi to a lesser extent.
I think there's some amount of advantage we could eke out by controlling where people go but I think we also can get a fair amount of useful info just from where people decide to go on their own. unwnd, since you were specifically worried as scum about town's options to synchronize, I'm curious what exactly you didn't want town to have the option to do.that two scum cannot be in the same place. Therefore, my intent in the last game was to not make any sudden movements. I didn't want to confirm any information basically. The town in that game tried to use I believe Keep(?) to box in scumreads or something to that effect. We ended up exactly 1-1-1 in terms of wagon makeup where Ydrasse followed my lead, and then catboi just happened to find himself elsewhere too. I think it's a dangerous game (for scum) if they just let townies start plotting because then the onus is put onto them, and it becomes a matter of reacting less to what town does and more about complying and hoping that their plans are misguided.-
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I don't lurk.In post 44, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
That's funny you thought that as scum before, because I didnt want to give scum time to plan anything.In post 34, unwnd wrote:It's hard to interpret really. I was scum there so I can tell you my motivations for doing so previously-- which was basically mitigating control. I jumped early because I wanted to limit town's options to synchronize, and because I felt the ~~no fear~~ approach would be townie. Is Kyouko doing the exact same thing? I don't know because he doesn't have the same experience as I do now.
T3 you're a lurksack so if you dont get into Gate I'll treat it as a scumclaim. Scum does not want you at Gate as they either have to swap you (takes away their agency), IC you (gives you a clear when lurkers are usually bait), or try to mislim you (you have the defense that you're bait)
So if you're town get in. If any others hammer gate before T3 that's also a scumclaim-
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Keep.In post 55, PenguinPower wrote:Someone please direct this valiant avian knight.-
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Amen.In post 62, PenguinPower wrote:Not all birds fly.
I'm super obvscum when scum and super obvscum but I get correctly meta read when town.In post 63, unwnd wrote:
Yeah his takes are so undercooked that I have to believe they're genuineIn post 60, catboi wrote:I dislike both kyouko's explanation and T3's reaction to it, but will take the level 0 read that this makes them unlikely to be teamed. Although looking at 52 again, it might be a town post despite none of the conclusions being good. Or because of that.-
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I'm not limbait some of the time.In post 67, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:So T3 is scum, that wasn't too hard-
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In post 79, PenguinPower wrote:I mean - I think implosion is scum as well.In post 65, skitter30 wrote:I actually think t3 is town and am liking unwnd so far
I'm getting some bad vibes from implosion but i'm not good at reading him so i'm not sure how much stock to put into that-
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In post 116, skitter30 wrote:
@t3In post 98, skitter30 wrote:Where did you come up with that trio fromIn post 113, T3 wrote:In post 79, PenguinPower wrote:I mean - I think implosion is scum as well.In post 65, skitter30 wrote:I actually think t3 is town and am liking unwnd so far
I'm getting some bad vibes from implosion but i'm not good at reading him so i'm not sure how much stock to put into that-
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Agreed.In post 128, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Oh and that's quoted because Dunn seems talkative this game-
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Because contrary to popular opinion, I am not limbait this game.In post 132, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
Mmm, elaborate from both angles:In post 131, T3 wrote:Like Kyo's plan with me at the gate is anti-town but not necessarily scum.
Scum!T3 at Gate
Town!T3 at Gate
How is you coming to the gate anti-town, in both cases-
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I'm basically always seen as limbait. Take almost any completed towngame of mine.In post 137, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Also you say popular opinion like there are a lot of people that share my viewpoint. As far as I can tell I'm alone in this. Could it be the pressure is getting to you already?-
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I'm trying to basically triple my average postcount.In post 140, PenguinPower wrote:Maybe you should work on that.-
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Yeah but you can swap.In post 162, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
Say for arguments sake I am scum, and I want town!T3 and town!Implosion in there with me. I'm going to have to IC one of them, and if i forced them both into the keep with me, is the IC really going to vote the other one over me? Keep in mind I sr both of them, so the ICed one would have reason to be thinking very critically about my motivation for bringing them both into Gate.In post 156, catboi wrote:Were this a regular game, I could maybe see it as an attempt to pressure him but in this setup that doesn't really work, and the approach here makes more sense as either trying to make T3 an elimmable suspect on day 2 or pit him against implosion based on his existing stated suspicions - I'm not sure why as town you'd actively try to get 2 scumreads into a location with you but it makes great sense as scum if you believe one will surefire vote the other. I'm struggling to see much of any of it as town motivated play.
I dont think you've really thought this through from both perspectives. You should probably join T3.-
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If he's active then he's town.In post 171, implosion wrote:My townish pile is similar to skitter's actually, but dropping the "maybe" on unwnd and swapping catboi for Penguin.
I don't know how to read dunnstral at all though.-
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All I see is protown benefits.In post 185, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I also think it's a good idea to grab people in pairs for Gate and Keep. If we do that, then the group consensus on those pairs should be that they are both town. And pairs should have to TR each other too. If we can pair people off like this it makes it harder for scum to sneak into a pair. Then we decide where the pair should go, Gate or Keep, and then decide on another pair. And you can always put your scumreads together in a pair and put them with me or with T3 if you think either of us are scum
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If skitter is scum then she's actively pocketing me so:In post 201, T3 wrote:I'm not really sure how to read skitter but I think town!skitter usually is less sure of her reads.Draft: penguinpower-
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That was way different to my mental image of you.In post 218, unwnd wrote:I am a male, a geriatric one
pedit: True. I know I'm town and I think my play this game is pretty different to my scum meta.