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[bob3141]

find it odd that iambrad came in playign dumb. When a first glance would show 2 out 3 scum are dead and that kim went down day 2 after guility

Would that tell you he's more Scum or Town?

I have this feeling that maybe he *could* be Town, and Scum, like Naerys/STD/Hu/some other lurker is just waiting.

We're far ahead so even if we *DO* mis-lim on CS/iab it won't hurt much, we'll have answers, and we did try to work with him.

leaves me feeling they are scum pretending that they havnt read up key details. They have an entire analysis yet miss that 2 scum are dead and that i got a guilty on kim.

and the hole not wanting to claim just looks like they are doing AtE to try and make players think they couldnt possibly be scum. Town would just come in and claim after seeing two scum are dead and mass claim in progress

[bob3141]

yimmy dont hammer until mass claim is complete.

[bob3141]

also we dont want to end the end the day with an empty slot. As PC slot has been prodded, whether he will post is another question though but we do need somethign from every slot today

[bob3141]

UNVOTE:

before we end the day we need pc slot claim and then Hu tao claim

[bob3141]

Hi worst what are you intial reads

their are few role claims

yimmy, Dragon and Happy have claimed VT
nurse a lazy novice tracker - claimed bp miller day 1
naerys a 2 shot complex jailkeeper
im a odd night gunsmith neighbour and i guilty on kim n1

iambrad has refused to treu claim. Day one his slot claimed bp then 2 shot vig

Hu Tao claimed their role to me day one so they will be claiming last

As things stand its just your slot and iambrad slot that havnt claimed

[bob3141]

well im leaving scum guessing if im odd nights or 2 shot with all my shots gone

also hu tao is my neighbour

[bob3141]

Hey Bob! Hey everyone!

Do you want me to claim? Is there a reason we're doing it in f9 with (probably) one scum left alive rather than in f5 or f7? Genuine question I can see lots of reasons just curious which one/s are true

Bob why do you think you survived n2?

Naerys claimed to have jailed me. And bbmola looks like a vig kill as they looked pretty bad after kims flip. There are two different reasons, one scum expected me to be proteced and shot bbmola or that scum shot me and a vig shot bbmolla.

The mass claims is due to fact we already have allot of pr claims already and one flip town pr. so we needed to sort if we had scum hidden in the pr claims

[bob3141]

i think the first places i want to look are like; nurse, happy, dragons

second tier is you (brad for posterity), hu tao & yimmy

naerys like, can be scum, but it's in a weirder world than any of those 6.

anyone here on your radar?

honestly, i just did some basic analysis on votecounts and relative nightkills. nothing crazy, i felt like the day 2 wagon had obvious bussing from the weird patterns of all the voters day 1 (all being off wagon) to suddenly being on the katy wagon. didn't look organic, but also the day 1 wagon had clear bussing as well from katy. i'm going to have to read eod to make sense of why this all occurred.

random nurse and happyimhere specifically have some pretty ??? voting from voting each other day 1 off any considerable wagon to voting together on katy day 2. plus the bbmolla kill implies that there has to be a wolf on that wagon with a kill off wagon. bob i think also is equally worth looking at after being on some random wagon day 1, katy day 2, and no voting late into today until he got into conflict with me & my slot forcing the vote.

your wagon is technically a counterwagon to mine as well, but i didn't think too poorly of your slots decision making. present day 1 lynch off katy lynch day 2 etec etc, but since there's only one scum left (supposedly), then it could be realistic your slot is wolf without me doing any informative reads.

dragons looked fine to me, but aside from that, our reads are pretty mirrored. i dunno anything about naerys the name doesn't even sound familiar.

Not much can be learnt from the day 2 kim wagon as it was a result of guilty and the hole day only last 8 hours. scum could bussed scum, scum could of not bussed and there is even the possibility that scum was in 2-4 slots that didnt even get post that day

[bob3141]

i did, used my gunsmith action to get if they had gun. Was prety sure they were scum but last day that had been allot of push back against my scum read. That way my push next day would go through.

thats what caused the wagon shift. At first i got run up after pointing out all the signs that they were scum. So i just revealed my guility at that point, was hoping to keep it secret and not out myself.


I would of prob been executed otherwise lol

[bob3141]

Last pr town game i vig scum n1 and this game i gunsmith scum n1

[bob3141]

They claimed bp miller day one and latter claimed novice lazy tracker day 3 i think

And im pretty sure there is vig in the deck. As i doubt scum would ever shoot bmolla as with kims flip that would of been an easy misexecution. I know i was sure they scum after their hard defense of kim, one of teh reason i got run up.

[bob3141]

But ive recently played two recent games with nurse were they were scum in both and it doesnt feel like they are scum here. Plus there push on me feels like it was driven by paranoia casued by think this time i could of roled scum.

[bob3141]

known power roles

Town novice one shot cop

scum odd night rolestopper
scum disloyal doc

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Claims

Nearys- complex 2 shot jk
nurse- novice lazy tracker
bob- gated gunsmith neigbhour
neighbour

[bob3141]

what do we know on save the dragons?

They were the one that flipped leading day one wagon from PC to looker. pc was at 4 and looker 3, at that point they switched from Pc to looker. With deadline approaching they effectivly ensured scum would be executed



Greeting had a few intereactions with them. one was post 512 were greeting ask dragon on their view on civils case against kim. Concidering dragons response it doesnt look like scum asking scum about town read on their scum partner. Feels like it would be unnecessary assoications especially when they dodnt do anything to capilitise on the interaction. as dragon responed witha one line. Felt very much like scum casing if any town was biting on civils read


And generally overall their interactions dont feel s/s.

[bob3141]

reading back through kim iso i starting to wonder were their claimed town read on yimmy actualy came from. Whiel at the same time kkfc landed in top two town reads in yimmys read list


Greetings landed in the bottom yet it took greeting/looker getting to e-1 plus a day to deadline. For them to even vote that slot. Their only vote all day

[bob3141]

For now

VOTE: Yimmy

[bob3141]

I dont understand, why the low suspicion towards brad. His early refusal to claim was anti town at best. I might be affected by a tunnel vision tho.

The thing is anti town doesnt automatically mean scum. and anti-scum automatically doesnt mean town.

If you look at kims iso does it look like kim/civl was s/s to you. To me it looks s/t

[bob3141]

last last scum is most likely in worst/yimmy/dragon

nurse/naerys leaves a hole in town power and thats with the assumption that one of the vt is actualy a vig.

[bob3141]

386 and Kims next 5 posts show a serous push against civil

[bob3141]

For now

VOTE: Yimmy

Why Yimmy, Bob?

I'd prefer an iambrad lim to get some answers, and I do not trust worsts's slot either. I'm OK with one of these three so far, but STD and Naerys and the others need to start posting more, especially STD.

I think your just tunneling cvil/iambrad slot. You might want to take a fresh pass at kim iso and greetings iso. To see if there associtaions with the civil slot looks s/s or rules s/s

[bob3141]

the way is see it

last scum is worst/yimmy/dragon plus one misexecution on iambrad to avoid tvt misexecution in elo


to me nurse, naerys, hu tao and happy are all town. First two leave a hole in town power, the thirs knew i was gunsmith when at very min i could get a clear

[bob3141]

VOTE: dragons if i'm here for d4 i'll do some more work on iavh i'm sheeping bob there

yimmy is a remote compromise lim for me. i'm kind of confused that nobody else is seeing what i'm seeing there and like if i'm right i think i'm making this game harder by dooming myself.

if we misyeet today i'd appreciate not being vigged tonight because i think i'm quite capable of solving this game tomorrow, and i think it's going to become very obvious that i'm town.

There's no Vig in this game so why are you saying that?

I hope im not outing a gambit from naerys but if there was no vig that would mean nearys would actualy be a full complex JK. In which case it would be funny is scum try and kill me tonight hoping naerys would be out of shots like me. Only to find out their kill is blocked with us going into 8p with one scum

[bob3141]

VOTE: yimmy

yep i was voting yimmy

[bob3141]

thanks for modding dragon

[bob3141]

no redactions for me

[bob3141]

i wonder which is longer the hood or the mafia pt