Lucresia, why on earth did you claim?
I claimed because I was at L-2 with one person who had already stated they were probably going to vote for me (Peabody) but wanted to re-read the thread again. Also, I thought I would have been hammered before getting a chance to claim (since that additional vote which seemed likely would have put me at L-1.)
To promote more conversation in this game and to get better reads on people I am going to post my current thoughts on the players below.
Hopefully this will spawn some additional discussion. I apologize actually for not doing this sooner, but as you can see from my couple disappearances I've had a very unexpected busy week in RL.
Short list:
Romanus - Leaning towards being town
lynchking - leaning towards scum
ICEninja - hard to get a read on him but even with all the ups and downs of tells I think he's most likely town.
Trendall - pretty confident he's town
Erratus Apathos - not sure...can't get a read on him
RangeroftheNorth - Leaning towards being town
Peabody - Leaning towards being town
Valern - Pretty confident he is scum
DeathRowKitty - pretty confident he's town
Pine - Pretty confident he is scum
AMP - not enough posts for me to get a read on him
Long list (PEdit:Yes this took awhile so number of posts may have changed since I started writing this..):
Romanus - Posts this game = 5, Has kept his vote on Pine most of the game due to Pine's quick jump to a bandwagon and a post he felt was "very weak". Did not like the bandwagon against me. Changed his vote to Ice Ninja beleiving his posts were more scummy based on supporting my bandwagon but keeping a bad vote on Erratus.
lynchking - Posts this game = 1. Has only had one post the entire game which apologizes for lack of activity due to RL but promises to be more active. Agrees with DRK and Erratus' comments against me and jumps on the bandwagon. Despite his promise to be more active, it is now almost 2 full days later and hasn't provided any input to the game besides his jump on the bandwagon including his own feelings on any other player. Possibility of lurking scum although I can understand being busy as I too have had a very unexpected busy week. After the promise of activity without any follow through, I think he deserves an
FOS: Lynchking
. This will however turn back to a vote if I don't see a more substantial post from him soon.
ICEninja - Posts this game = 18, (You will see a lot more information and notes on him just due to activity). Immediately draws everyone's attention to the day deadlines and requests everyone be very active. He maintains to be very active throughout the game having 18 posts overall. --consistency makes me lean towards town, however the next aspect I will discuss makes me think otherwise.
He asks everyone to answer a few questions that he wants just for his own personal knowledge, which I assume was also his way of starting conversation and activity. He also states he will be posting walls of texts. Brings up an old game and casts a vote on Erratus based on the questions ice asked. Although he says they weren't used to find scum,
then contradicts himself
by saying someone was lying and that they must be scum based on the answer to a question that wasn't supposed supposedly being used to find scum in the first place.
Feels the reasons DRK has for voting me are very sound. Then quotes my reasoning for answering the questions he had and beleives that I was trying too hard to look town in my post and considered joining my bandwagon. I find this interesting because again, the questions that were only for his knowledge are being used in a way to help him determine if someone is scum or not.
Mentions he also thinks Pine is trying to hard to not look like he is sheeping but does not feel it is enough to change his vote from Erratus.
Mentions that the activity in this game is low and brings up the following as people who haven't posted much or posted anything he feels is worthwhile: Valern, Trendall, Romanus, & AMP. Does NOT mention LynchKing who hasnt even posted at all! Possible scum buddy? But wait, makes a post the next day after lynchking makes his first post and identifies all the obvious things Ive already stated in this post (1 post, jumps on bandwagon) and changes his vote to him. I wonder though how heartfelt this vote really is. I think that his response to romanus the next day might be
him
trying too hard to look like he isnt interested in my bandwagon nor still voting for erratus for no good reason. Then again as soon as I feel he might be scum, the next things he does seem town to me...he thinks valern has a bad mindset by wanting to just quick lynch me anyways (agreed btw...a quick lynch with barely any information is NOT a town mindset at all). He then confirms his previous posts throughout the game that he doesn't think anything Ive done or said yet is lynchworthy yet, just suspicious. Then decides after going back and forth a bit that Valern's bandwagon jumping You are a hard one to get a read on..that's for sure.
Trendall -posts this game = 7, I beleive the low activity was only due to his V/LA. Brought up some good points concerning what he felt about my posts and my bandwagon. He also based off that was not entirely sure that I was the right choice.He pointed out a few things he didn't like while ommitting things that had already been covered *(I like this because it allows you to want to read his posts and not just skim since the content is fresh and there is actual thought provoking ideas to consider. He also brings rangerofthenorth into the picture who accussed trendall of being strongly behind my wagon and even for voting for me which never happened. Neither of those 2 things were true based on Trendall's posts. I am pretty confident Trendall is town.
Erratus Apathos - posts this game = 10, answered ICE's questions but the answer's were obviously sarcastic. Voted peabody for being "nervous scum" which he later explains why he thought he acted like nervous scum, good enough for a first vote. Then gave a bs answer to a bs accusation ICE had based on him "lying " which was really just him being sarcastic to his questions. Then just said he agreed with DRK's post and hopped on my bandwagon. Then he is thoroughly convinced that I am scum and keeps urging people to vote for me and hop on my bandwagon. Then after my claim, erratus agrees with Romanus that he does not think my post was a scum gambit and unvotes me to vote for ice ninja based on thinking that his "lie" is noteworthy. (a "lie" which still was just frickin sarcasm from a game that shouldnt have been brought up since its ongoing anyways and ice hasn't dropped it yet) . Either way I can't get a good read on him.
RangeroftheNorth - posts this game = 13, answer's ICE's questions and discusses he prefers night 0's due to any information is better than none and more information = less chance of mafia manipulation. All these are fair statements. He then goes on to explain the congratulating the doctor tell and agrees with DRK's case on me. Then hops on the bandwagon. Then nitpicks and asks for clarification on something Erratus said. I think it was clear what Erratus meant, but perhaps ranger just wanted to post for the sake of posting? I can't imagine who really needed clarification on that statement..He then explains why he asked it but...it still seems strange to me. Regardless, strange doesnt necessarily mean scum. The rest of his posts are really saying that he finds me suspicious still but is not sure about me after my claim and unvotes. Then admits that re-reading trendall's posts he was far off on his analysis. He also does not see a reason for a case against ice ninja. Overall I am leaning towards town based on his activity and scum hunting posts he has made.
Peabody - posts this game = 6, answered ICE's questions, questions AMPs late RVS vote and erratus points out he beleives that is a nervous scum comment.He questions the validity of erratus post (valid imo) peabody thinks pine might be afraid to jump on my bandwagon but agreeing with the bandwagon calling him inconsistent. This is a good read imo. I am leaning towards Peabody being town, but would like to see a bit more action from him.
Valern - posts this game = 9, made a few comments on his playstyle probably spawned from ICE's questions but he didnt answer them directly. Liked DRK's case on me as well as Romanus' vote on Pine. He then decided I was probably the best choice to hop on as a bandwagon and hopped on. Doesnt post unless he has something worthwhile to say and skims walls. So he may or may not even be reading this
He likes Romanus' posting and questions ICE on whether he thinks less posts = scummy. even after claiming he feels I would be a good lynch if I dont show "improvement" even though thusfar he had barely posted and jumped on a bandwagon himself. So what I have from Valern is that he wants a quick lynch which is VERY anti-town as it does not allow us to gather any information which is essential on day 1. Valern then decided I can wait due to an over-reaction from ICEninja. He keeps mentioning in a few of his additional posts that everyone shoudld be looking for scum yes I really dont think he's doing a good job. IMO he's trying to seem hepful to the town without actually being helpful. Pretty confident he's scum.
DeathRowKitty - posts this game =17, makes random vote, then switches to a pretty much other random vote, doesnt mind larger posts as long as it is not all the time, then he would skim through. Didnt seem to like having a night 0 or any of ICE's questions. Started a bandwagon on me from things I considered to be pointless or irrelevant however I think with nothing to go off of, it probably was good enough for day 1. Made several osts to me and others ecplaining his reasoning. He endorsed the lynch based on his reasonings and tried to get other people on his bandwagon. After my claim he no longer agreed with the wagon and unvoted. He doesnt like the ICE wagon and says AMP, Trendall and Valern were peaking his scumdar next. Then voted for Valern stating he was too cool to give a reason. He also critisizes Erratus for his quoting of ICE and considering everything ICE says to pretty much be scummy. I think DRK is town based on the quality of most of his posts thusfar. I think he has good intentions in this game.
Pine - posts this game = 14, pro-wall, answers questions from ICE, calls out the dumb comment made from ranger of the north (who was asking for clarification on a stupid statement...), liked my bandwagon but decided he'd rather keep his vote on peabody for some extra pressure. Then rescinds his feelings that the post was dumb since ranger didnt get ofended..I think Pine is acting scummy and inconsistent. Unvoted peabody then decided he was going to re-read the thread and maybe put me at L-1 the next morning, which he never made another comment. I am leaning towards him being a following piece of scum. I'd actually go with pretty confident.
AMP - posts this game = 5, Answered ICE's questions, Discusses that he hates night 0 and why. Posts to tell us he forgot about this game and is reading now and will give opinions.Discusses why a townie may lie in response to the whole erratus thing. Then disagrees that the congrats to the doctor tell is a valid scum tell. Then says I had an OMGUS vote (not sure what this was about since I didn't have one?) but decides to sit back and let other people pressure me since they were dong a good enough job (I think that's more lurking..keep providing input please..if you have questions..ask them.) Then discusses that he feels ong posts pretty much usually contain fluff. Then goes back on a V/LA for 48 hrs due to a family emergency. Not much going on here since most of the time he has not been in the game. So the only confusing thing to me was the comment on the OMGUS vote which he thinks I made that I didnt. Perhaps he was reaching at air trying to think of something to bring to the table. Either way I dont have a good enough read on him.
