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Herro! I'm all caught up on the thread. Prod me as needed/wanted:
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Be gentle with me. I bruise easily.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Well, to be honest, no. Very little is contained in the thread, and most of it in the beginning is dominated by arguing over JDodge.Incognito wrote:I'm still around. Mizzy, do you have any thoughts after your read?
I sent out some messenger invites but I haven't heard from anyone.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Looks like my vote's still on xyzzy from Slayer...I'll keep it there for the time being.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Not until I see some participation. No one has responded to my buddy list additions (I hate PM on this site) and there's next to nothing in here worth giving a darn about.NabakovNabakov wrote:@Mizzy: Can't you come up withsomethingbetter than that?PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
Nightson: "I'd be more then happy to play with Ether and Mizzy. At the same time."
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You could try, you know, bothering to talk to me. No one has even attempted to contact me, ask me anything, etc.NabakovNabakov wrote:*shrug*
I still like my vote on Disciple Slayer, and by extension, I dislike the xyzzy bandwagon.
It would appear my vote on DS is now on Mizzy, and yet my opinion hasn't changed.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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[bMOD:[/b] Perhaps it might be beneficial to do a mass-prod or a reverse-prod and also make a listing of everyone's contact information in the first post so that no one has any excuses for not participating?
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Mizzy has been Mod-kille- oh okay, one more chance. I'm prodding everyone who hasn't posted in the last 48 hrsPokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Repost for bold:
MOD:Perhaps it might be beneficial to do a mass-prod or a reverse-prod and also make a listing of everyone's contact information in the first post so that no one has any excuses for not participating?PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Even if we did that, participation would still be shot and we have no idea who is inactive and who isn't.Adel wrote:or we could just lynch xyzzy and call it a day...
I'm not sure if lynching someone who isn't responding to anything is worth it until we prod him and see what happens. Would rather have a replace.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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I did send one but it's been wonky lately. I prefer AIM these days...less spam.Incognito wrote:Mizzy, did you send a request to me for Yahoo? I didn't see anything last time I checked. I'm gonna list my AIM address also since that seems to be what most people use here.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Unvotebecause I'm doing some, you know, talking? And I may have some questions soon. I don't want a lynch just yet.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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I think people, well most of us, were wagoning just to get information...I wouldn't have been terribly impressed with anJDodge wrote:
I think it'll get us useful info about the people pushing your wagon and the people trying to defuse it. Why do you think otherwise?xyzzy wrote:Adel, your attitude of "let's just lynch randomly to see what it gets us" is super-scummy. Why, specifically, is that a good idea? Because I can't see ANY reason to random lynch. My death wouldn't even provide the town any useful info.
Unvote, vote Adelactualrandom lynch.
Adel's play makes me wonder...she's a bit terse.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Since the High and Mighty Moogle would probably kick my ass seven ways til Sunday if I tried to claim Temporary Insanity as a way to get out of this game, I have some questions.
vollkan:Why did you vote Adel for a scum claim where she also names you as scum and you don't go, "NU UH!" at all?
Adel:Do birds talk to you often? What do they say about being wrong?
@All:Anyone have any Advil I can have? This game gives me a headache the size of Kentucky.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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I replaced DS who was originally on the wagon, so I can't really explain why for him. I stayed on as long as I did because I was hoping for some content...but that pretty much failed.Incognito wrote:Adel, just what exactly are you trying to accomplish by acting the way you are? If you're town, I can't think of any reasons for why your actions might actually be beneficial towards helping us out in any way. There's no village idiot in this game but yet you seem to be trying to set yourself up as this unproductive, village idiot character. Ican, however, think of possible benefits for acting this way if you're scum.
In other news, I'm finding myself having a hard time believing that all six of the people who were originally on the xyzzy wagon are pro-town. xyzzy peeps, what are your feelings about one another?PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Imma get shot for this, you watch, but no, he DID pre-plan it. We (vollkan and I) spoke about "traps" via daytalk way before he "ran in" and I knew he was going to do what he did. He didn't stumble in by accident.JDodge wrote:Personally, I don't think you "ran in and defused the trap" like you said. I think you stumbled right into it and are now trying to cover that up.
That is all, carry on.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Yes, but I wanted him to know that (at least in this instance where I know better) you didn't screw up and try to cover your butt later.vollkan wrote: She speaketh the truth. However, that discussion was in the context of Adel saying:Adel wrote: or we could just lynch xyzzy and call it a day...PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Agreed, but I didn't want to interrupt them, either.Phate wrote:The walls-o-text were extremely informative, both to the current game and to mafia theory in general.
JD is extremely good at holding up his end of an intelligent debate/conversation and does ask very good questions...but he can do that as town and as scum. I do agree that Volkan isn't answering as directly as I'd like him to, and doesn't answer always in the context of this game as much as I'd prefer, but I'm not entirely convinced as to whether or not his actions/replies are scummy or not; a conversation like that usually leads to one of two things. 1) "I hate your guts and I will want to see you dead for the rest of the game" or 2) "Let's make up and be friends" and I'd really like to see some input from other people before going further with that train of thought.Phate wrote:JDodge's line of questioning is simple, direct, and hard to dodge without it being obvious. Vollkan has continued to dodge JDodge's questions and to reduce them to questions of pure theory rather than discuss them as they relate to the game at hand. I predicted as I read the last page the "Well, I concede the argument, let's be friends" ending that vollkan made on the beginning of this page. From what little I know of vollkan and from what I can percieve of his play this game, such a compromise and manner of reacting to questions = scummy enough for a vote.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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So, how's the weather? Crappy here, lemme tell ya.
Anyway, I'm not sure I agree with the case on Volkan at the moment...I think his defense of himself was sufficient and I feel there's better choices for lynches out there than him.
I feel comfortableVoting: Adel. I have to admit, I don't understand her play and I don't like it. It's not helpful, by any means. I realize that unhelpful != scum, but she did help kill a townie D1, and I have my eye on her and JDodge who have seemed to pair up together quite nicely. It's odd, I haven't seen a rendition of Bad Cop-Bad Cop before.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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I'm voting Adel because her blatant desire for a lynch doesn't feel pro-town. Regardless of meta, it's generally understood that longer days (with more talk and therefor more information) are better for town, and she seems quite happy ending a day here. Not to mention that with the deadline so close, all she'd have to do is wait it out and she'd probably get what she wanted.Phate wrote:Mizzy, I don't think your vote is justified. Adel's play is different than others she's played in, but that doesn't make her scum - have you ever seen her play like this in a game where she was scum? If so, please cite it.
They've both been on both wagons and their playstyles in this game are very, very similar.Phate wrote:What do you mean by "her and JDodge who have seemed to pair up together quite nicely"?
Today: Vollkan (2): Jdodge, Adel
Yesterday: Xyzzy (3): Jdodge, Sir Tornado, Adel
I don't likes it.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Playstyle is a problem because they are both coming off as anti-town, whether it's on purpose or not, in the same fashion. JD I'm used to seeing that from, but not necessarily from Adel. It seems noteworthy enough for a vote.vollkan wrote:Why is playstyle similarity a problem?
Why is Adel/JDodge being on the same wagons a problem?
Because the first wagon was wrong. I had expressed distaste for that wagon multiple times, not just here but in chat with others. The lynch and the NK gave us pretty close to zero information. I don't like that they were the driving force behind the mislynch and I don't like that Adel is pushing for another lynch now.
Don't ask me questions just for the sake of looking active.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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I mean their playstyle in this game thus far coupled with what meta I know of them. But MOSTLY their playstyle this game.vollkan wrote:So you meant they are both seeming anti-town?
Ordinarily, when someone says "playstyle" I think of meta things like "Well, so-and-so is always very emotionally reactive/bandwagon hops/has an aggressive tone/ etc." Hence, my question.
I'm sorry, I should have elaborated...that wasn't just aimed at you. It feels like because Mister Moogle's wrath is imminent, that I will be/am being targeted because I posted right before it in an attempt to up participation. Not just by you.vollkan wrote: That wasn't the point. The first question was because your use of the word "playstyle" confused me, and the second was to get you to elaborate on exactly what your problem with the wagoning was.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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FoS: kabenon007 for being a lemming.kabenon007 wrote:I agree with JDodge on this one.Vote: vollkan.You are in fact dodging questions with your long posts that can seem contentful but shirk around the important stuff sometimes, by preventing reactions. Reactions to the words written on this thread are, in my opinion, the most telling of all the information we have. Okay, so it's not quite THAT important, but it's pretty high up on the list. And your stepping in did in fact hamper those reactions, and therefore the information given to the town. And plus, you are acting way too close to our first game. It's almost word for word.
Voting someone without adding anything concrete or reasonable (prior meta is great and all but it's kind of BS) is scummy to me.Think for yourself.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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It was a vote out of left field, really, without much comment on things before hand. You also yes-manned JDodge, and while you changed some words around, you basically said the same things that others have been rehashing over and over with no new information or input beyond meta.kabenon007 wrote:@Mizzy- What should I have done differently? I did think for myself. That is why I said I agree with JDodge. I didn't just say exactly the same things as JDodge did, I said "Yes, this makes sense." And now I am digging deeper.
If you had spoken up about things first, done some chatting over it, and then decided to vote, I wouldn't have found the vote scummy.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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But Volkan isn't acting here like it never happened. He's taking responsibility for his actions and admitting his faults; something I can't see scum doing easily. He's sticking to his guns, too, and his answers haven't changed. Any argument against what he did is going to stink of wine.Kabenon wrote: @Vollkan- The last time we played, I said something, you attacked me long and hard about it, and then, after a little banter, you backed off. Someone pressed you for backing off suddenly and acting as if it hadn't happened and then you said basically exactly the same thing as this post:PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Both of them are. You missed the "what was." As in, you cheapened it.kabenon007 wrote:
Followed closely by...Vollkan wrote:In an instant,what wasa pretty strong accusation (ie. my play here allegedly being similar to my play in Newbie 358) is shown to be an absolute nullity
Hm... which one is the truth?Vollkan wrote:I didn't take it as a strong accusationPokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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I'm not defending him, I think you're over-analyzing and I'm attacking you for it. You're acting like you've been backed into a corner and I don't like it.kabenon007 wrote:No, you see, the fact that he called it a strong accusation and said "WAS" as you pointed out, meant that he took it, at one point, to be a strong accusation. As in the past. But then it was downgraded. But at one point he did in fact take it as a strong accusation. Why are you defending vollkan for him?
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Since when is there no neutral ground? Just because I didn't accuse him, it doesn't mean I defended him.kabenon007 wrote:@Mizzy- Yes you sort of attacked me, but it was in the process of defending vollkan's posts. You take a stance on vollkan's posts that is not accusatory, and therefore is defensive of them.
I pointed something out because I wanted to see your reaction to it specifically and rather than wait around and see if anyone else would say something, I did.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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The fact that you missed two words in a sentence when analyzing it isn't opinion, it's fact...hence starting this with "the fact that."kabenon007 wrote:Yes... and that isn't putting her opinion out there...PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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At the risk of sticking my neck out again, I think the reason Volkan would have taken the "your play matches your play while scum" thing as a strong accusation was because it could have been an underhanded and passive-aggressive way to call him scum. I would have taken it that way if someone had said it to me. He then didn't take it as a strong accusation, and I wouldn't have either, when you cheapened the whole thing.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Have you not been paying attention at all? I'm not going to answer this because it's already been said. Go read.kabenon007 wrote:What do you mean I cheapened it?PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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I'm here, just listening, and checking out the meta information you found. I don't personally like meta because it's often times unreliable, but it does make an interesting read sometimes.NabakovNabakov wrote:
Change "I" to "Somebody", and you have my perspective. That's why I think you're too harsh.vollkan wrote: "I might reasonably do that as town".
But too harsh =/= scum, even when there's a meta on it.
Where's everybody else?
I feel volkan's answers have been sufficient and don't find his actions scummy at this time.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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I do want to point out that the Volkan <--> Nab exchange has allowed kab to slink to the shadows once more and I'd like to hear more from him.
Unvotebecause after reading the entire exchange between JDodge and Volkan again, I find myself wondering if Adel would be so blatantly scummy if she were actually scum. Considering that I've just smacked myself in the kisser with a WIFOM argument (I hate me) I can't keep a vote on her and sleep at night for the moment.
Not that I can sleep anyway, but you know.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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I didn't really defend you, I just pointed out what I thought was something he was either missing completely, or trying intentionally to make others miss. I didn't like it that he tried to make someone seem contradictory who had not been.vollkan wrote:Then you start pushing against Mizzy for defending me.
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4) Why should Mizzy not have defended me?PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Just a heads up:I will be away with limited or no internet access until late Monday, Feb. 18th.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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It bothers me a lot that Guardian is all pro-daytalk-and-tell and yet only tells us who he spoke to...not any of the info he gained from the conversation...only the outcome. He just expects us to understand his opinion after a chat with kab. It comes off as slightly hypocritical.
I feel at this point that a volkan lynch is an easy way out, and a terrible one. In fact, it feels like that people want volkan dead because he's an easy target...and I can't imagine that anyone who bothered to read the entire conversation between him and JD could feel that he was trying to talk circles in order to appear less scummy.
Volkan has answered everything quite beautifully, and the continued wagon/attention on him is nothing but a smoke screen, if you ask me.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Saying who you are talking to and when is fine, but I really dislike that you aren't giving any reasonings here in your posts about why you feel the way you do beyond, "I spoke to him and formed an opinion." If you're going to advocate that the bulk of our exchange is inside the thread, then I hope to see you setting an example.Guardian wrote:Mizzy, explain how I am being hypocritical. I think who is talking to who should be of record so if someone dies, the people they talked to could be asked to reveal what the conversation was about. Also, I wouldn't want someone I never PM'd to claim to have had extensive PMs with me if I died.
That doesn't mean we should reveal the contents of the talk as they happen.
I'm not saying you post a log of what was said, but I expect to see some logic and reasoning behind your votes and expressed opinions within this thread. I expect the same of everyone.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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If your opinions on scum were true, scum would win a lot less than they do. They blend in as town by knowing how the town acts in a specific game. That means reading. It's when a scum fails that blending in that we find them.kabenon007 wrote:Well, scum don't have to read thread because they know who the scum are, and therefore do not have to search the thread for information as to who they need to investigate. They can just pick and choose and make up crap to instigate things against townies, or better yet just allow townies to kill each other off. So scum can save themselves time by not reading useless information. And I see no reason that any other role would not read the thread.
Regarding your perceptions of scum - JDodge and volkan don't fit this at all...JD hasn't made up crap from what I can tell, and neither has volkan. And if what Guardian's hint about what he thinks of me is indicative of anything, I'm, being grouped with them, and I certainly don't fit this, either.
And you do realize that your play has come off as "instigating things against townies" that are "made up crap" right?
@Guardian: Before you judge my alignment, I suggest you look at the voting history and maybe try asking me questions/talking to me, first. Just accepting Kab's views on me and anyone you haven't spoken to is the lazy way out.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Can we see some statistics that you didn't pull out of your ass to back up the claim that scum read less often than townies? Can you provide proof that said person making mistakes is because their of their alignment and lack of reading the thread and not due to any other factor such as level of business or because of an honest mistake?kabenon007 wrote:The truth of the matter is that, statistically speaking, scum are more likely to not read the thread than town. And JDodge doesn't strike me as a townie who would not read the thread or would make such a simple mistake as misjudge who the post was aimed at if the post in question was only one or two posts under the question you posed.
If you can make a valid case of this, I will listen to you. However, as it stands right now, you're falling into your own opinion of scum in the sense that this is a crap case aimed at who I feel are townies with the intention of causing a distraction.
In fact, this bullshit case is such a distraction that I can't imagine a kabtown would be doing such a thing. He'd be trying to validly scumhunt, not pull random "facts" out of thin air that are actually groundless opinions that are most likely based on his own tendencies of playing scum himself...in which case, there is proof in this thread (his making errors due to mis-reading, whether intentionally or unintentionally) that fit him square into his own case for scum.
I do not feel that a townie would be playing the way kab is, and I have had suspicions about him for a long time now.
Vote: kabenon007
If he can provide a VALID case against JD and volkan, then I will not only consider taking my vote off of him, but I will most likely listen to him a bit. I, however, don't think he's capable of doing such a thing.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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I doubt he'd get hammered because the folks that haven't voted him seem to think he's sincere...otherwise I would not have put him at -1L. I wanted some pressure on him to respond well to what I've said and what others have said...I'm sick of his wishy-washy responses.Incognito wrote:Woah. I'm not exactly ready for kabenon to be at L-1. I'd rather kabenon follow up with this:
before having him that close to lynch.kabenon007 wrote:You misunderstood. I can't post now about it, I have class, but when I return, there shall be some clarification. You misunderstood something that has become a point of contention that I believe can alleviate some stress here.
Damn... You guys posted a lot while I slept. I have to catch up on what happened last night.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Well, he's not at -1L now, so that fixes that. On your point about Adel, people have tried to question her directly in the past and we've not gotten good responses. You can only lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink. It sucks, but if a player is unwilling to play along, we can't force them, even if it does give them a free ride.Incognito wrote: While I agree with you for the most part, I don't think L-1 is the right way to go about it at this time. kabenon promised that he would follow up with content and while the likelihood of someone hammering him while he's at that position is unlikely (especially if he's scum), I'd rather not take that chance. I'm still extremely interested in seeing what Xtoxm has to say about the game so far, and I still dislike Adel's posts in this game. I feel like she's almost getting a free ride while other people scrutinize each other or defend her actions.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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I SAID why I unvoted. I spoke with 2 people via daytalk and between those conversations and another full re-read, I felt that the xyzzywagon was bullshit. There was no evidence of scum, and no, I didn't want to be on a townie lynch because (funny that) lynching townies is anti-town.Guardian wrote:fos: MizzyMizzy, explain your unvote? Why'd you do it?
Arguing about why I didn't want to be on the wagon lynch (both scum and town have equally valid reasons for not wanting to be on a townie lynch) is terribly WIFOM.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Here's the posts that say or hint to the reasons I unvoted:Guardian wrote:can you quote for me where you said all that explicitly?
Mizzy wrote:Unvote because I'm doing some, you know, talking? And I may have some questions soon. I don't want a lynch just yet.
I was doing some talking with at two people about the xyzzywagon and a third about Adel and JDodge...one of which I outed later as being Volkan. I also spoke with both Phate and Primate.Mizzy wrote:I think people, well most of us, were wagoning just to get information...I wouldn't have been terribly impressed with an actual random lynch.
I had questions to ask of a couple folks, the ones I contacted, and actually spoke at length with Primate about the upcoming xyzzy lynch...it was pretty obvious by that point that it was happening.
I didn't want a lynch because I was pretty undecided at that point who a good lynch would be. I, as I admitted previously (same page as the unvote, in fact), was not getting much info from the thread and had trouble getting anyone to daytalk with me. I had very, very precious little to go on.
I had no idea at that point who was scum, and a quick meta on me will tell you that I am a very cautious player...I vote when I am okay with that person being dead. I don't vote until that point. The wagon was already going to cause a lynch...my voting someone else wasn't going to help that.Guardian wrote:If you thought xyzzy lynch was BS, and you didn't want to lynch a townie (him), then why didn't you vote for someone else before deadline?
To those interested:I have logs of the conversations I have had with Phate, Volkan, and Primate, complete with date and time stamps. I can share them, in private, with anyone who IMs me and asks, but I cannot quote them here.Mod,if this isn't okay for me to do (share quotes in private) please let me know and I won't do it.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Can you stop being a dumbass andGuardian wrote:That being said, I don't buy your response to the second part. If you voted Adel, Adel & xyzzy would have been equal. Instead, you did nothing, and let xyzzy be lynched.READ THE RULES?
[05] If I impose a day deadline (which I will be very likely to do if a day lasts over an unreasonable point of time or discussion lags), the player with the most votes will be lynched.In case of a tie, first come, first served.In case of an endgame (six players or fewer) only simply majority lynches will occur.
There would have been a tie, yes, and xyzzywould have been lynched anyway.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Wait, so you're suggesting that I should not vote to lynch one person whom I was not convinced was scum in favor of someoneGuardian wrote:So you knew that no one else was going to vote Adel?
You knew that, for certain, at the time you unvoted and chose not to vote anyone else? And it wasn't worth putting Adel closer, since there was no chance of anyone besides xyzzy being lynched?
That's amazing.elseI was not convinced was scum? I didn't support the lynch of ANYone at that time, because even after daytalking, I had no real notion of who was scum.
I would seriously appreciate it if you would not put words in my mouth...that's scummy as hell.
I had no way of knowing for sure that Adel would not get another vote, and never said I did. However, after talking with 3 people and chatting in the thread, I was pretty sure we weren't going to have a real lynch and I sure as hell wasn't going to vote with no evidence that anyone was scum.
While you're pressuring me about my apparently scummy-as-hell unvote to not partake the lynch of someone I didn't think should be lynched, why don't you get on Phate's case, because he voted a totally useless vote and he could have tied things, too. In fact, scotmany didn't even bother PLAYING, and could have helped. Primate wasn't voting, either. So why am I getting all of the flack from you for a crappy case with no foundation?PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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My point in mentioning others is that a) I had recently replaced in, b) there was so little information that I didn't feel comfortable going to D2 with any votes out there, and c) I'm not the only one who didn't have a vote out. I still fail to see how you could continue to keep this WIFOM case in your mind as justified.Guardian wrote:Vollkan: Mizzy unvoted later. She both unvoted in closer proximity to deadline -- and after you did so. Her protection/buttering to you is a main pillar of my suspicion. So imo finding her suspicious over you is very legitimate. I could see you two being scum together, I could see her being scum and you not, I'm not really sure I could see you scum and her not.
Mizzy: note that I am on Phate's case. He was my first vote after replacing in, and still, no one has wanted to comment at all about him being scummy. I find that infuriating, but just sitting there would breed stagnation, so I'm considering other suspects.
Primate's post near the end of day 1 was his last post in the game, I'm hesitant to characterized him as anything other than bored. But I'll look into him/Xtoxm.
scotmany is dead.
So Mizzy, I don't see how I am being inconsistent at all in voting you for that unvote.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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I can try, yes. I will try to explain my feelings on him as best as I can.Guardian wrote:Let me try a different tact:
Mizzy, in one post in your own words, without referencing a case you or someone else has previously made, could you explain why you find kab suspicious?
Kab comes off as all talk and no action. What I mean there is that he makes accusatory posts that reference prior events that are recollections of those events and doesn't bother to go back and make sure. He seems to have a bit of a commitment problem until he gets backed into a corner, and even then he's as fickle as the wind. He is trying very hard to build cases that are insubstantial. He's playing on the defensive, not the aggressive, and I can't remember him doing very much of what I consider to be real scumhunting. All in all, his plays seem half-hearted, at best.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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That type of post is exactly why I suspect you so strongly, Kab. You don't learn from your mistakes and you don't pay attention.
Exactly...it was a page of banter. It accomplished nothing, and within that page, I can't find evidence of you getting off your rear and doing anything. Just debating. All talk, no action. A LOT of talk, really, and no action. You even failed to defend yourself properly.kabenon007 wrote:All talk and no action... what do you call basically an entire page of me and vollkan going at it? That's not action... hm... I guess I'll write an entire page next time? Commitment is something I get a lot of flack for, I'd rather be sure of myself than just fling my vote around.
Commitment problems from you come in more forms that just lack of voting. You seem to try and put as little real content in your actions and posts as possible, and saying something plainly, and clearly, is a form of commitment in this type of game.
I've read and reviewed your arguments very carefully, Kab, and I find them to be insubstantial. Volkan's arguments and opinions have nothing to do with that conclusion of mine.kabenon007 wrote:My case against JDodge is not insubstantial, you are just all listening to vollkan and not taking into account my arguments. You all just listen to him, thinking him to be the all knowing voice of wisdom. I learned that scumtell from very experienced players, it is not insubstantial, and yet you all disbelieve it just because vollkan is arguing against it.
I also don't believe in scumtells in the same way that the majority tends to, on these forums. There are only a few reliable universal scumtells, and this is not one of them. So honestly, I don't care where you learned it, or how experienced those people were, it's not a valid reason for me to believe or follow you, and even though I have offered you a chance to sway me, you have not even bothered to TRY to do so with anything worth giving a second glance to.
What more do I want from you? Answer Guardian's question. Properly.
For the record, that whole paragraph I just quoted by you (right above this) comes off as whiny, childish, and a pity party invitation. It's a serious blow to what little credibility you had in my eyes.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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1) I never said I didn't see wrong in Volkan. Don't put words into my mouth, because I'll bite your arm off.kabenon007 wrote:Sigh, at least she's consistent. Consistent in her refusal to see wrong in vollkan. He does exactly the same thing I did that whole page, except that you only target me. Pay attention to this, as this should cause red flags in some people's scumdars. Talk is action in this game, it's the only action we have. Any posts, be they short or long, provide some sort of information. And obviously I didn't fail to defend myself, as some people's opinions have changed of me. Granted, they changed back, but that's beside the point.
2) Volkan did NOT do exactly what you did. The fact that you think what you and he did were exactly the same shows that you didn't read it.
3) Talk is NOT action when it's empty talk.
4) You did fail to defend yourself in my eyes, and no, the fact that they changed back is very, very important.
Again, you didn'tkabenon007 wrote:I have voted for basically only two people this entire game. JDodge and Vollkan. How is that not showing committment in some way? You are very selective in what you bring to the table. I also believe you are not voting me. Are you noncomittal as well? We should make a club.read. I already said how that's not sufficient commitment. Look:
Mizzy wrote:Commitment problems from you come inmore formsthat just lack of voting.You seem to try and put as little real content in your actions and posts as possible, and saying something plainly, and clearly, is a form of commitment in this type of game.
1) You use completely made-up "facts" and "statistics" to back up your claims that are unprovable and have no supporting data.kabenon007 wrote:Tell me what is insubstantial about them, so that I may refute certain parts rather than try to read your mind and guess which parts are insubstantial, so that I may better give information.
2) You make points that are incomplete or wholly incorrect because you post without double-checking the information you're presenting (aka getting past facts incorrect and presenting them as truth.)
3) You build cases around "scumtells" that you constantly perform yourself, the most blatant of which is the "scum don't read threads" bit from you, when there are multiple proven spots in this game where you have been caught not reading the thread.
4) You blow off your inconsistencies, misrepresentations, illusions, and mistakes without actually explaining them, nor do you make any noticeable attempt to avoid making them again in the future.
5) You selectively ignore parts of sentences, posts, and cases against you and ask for things when they have already been said because you are either too lazy or couldn't be f*cked to read the thread yourself.
6) You insert insults, passive-aggressive jibes, and fluff into your defenses to make them appear more "full."
7) When you are asked to answer questions, give reasons, or own up to your actions, you hesitate until the last possible moment, and often attempt to direct attention onto someone else without ever actually responding sufficiently, unless you are asked in such a way that you cannot dodge.
Of course I view scumtells as mostly utter nonsense, however, I am more than willing to see them as valid with sufficient proof. You, instead of providing proof, choose to attack me. That's as good as admitting you have no proof. I could say a scumtell is someone with blue in their avatar, and if I present it with no truth or evidence to back it up, I would expect everyone to shoot me down. I'm shooting your evidence-less scumtells down. Provide me with evidence or get a better scumtell list.kabenon007 wrote:If this is the case, then you view scumtells through biased eyes. You do not like them and therefore carry a certain view about them even before you hear about them, and it seems to me that it is likely that you wouldn't listen to the greatest scumtell in the world. Therefore, there is nothing I can do in relation to trying to convince you that this tell is worthwhile.
According to Guardian:kabenon007 wrote:Whiny, according to dictionary.com is complaining, fretful, cranky.
I complain about nothing. Mostly it's sarcasm. I take what you accused me of, repeated it so anyone who hadn't seen your accusations might know what I was referring to, and then refuted it. That's not complaining, that's going about refuting your argument in a logical and organized fashion. I am however cranky, but wouldn't you be too if no one is believing you?
And I can't think of something clever to say about not being fretful, but, eh, I'm not. That about sums it up.
And these are pretty cranky, complainy and fretful, not to mention childish:Guardian wrote:When I replaced in, I was suspicious of him, asking him a question about vollkan, but then I got sypathy for him when I PM'd him, thinking he was just a newer player having troubles(he complained about all the experience in this game, etc). looking at it, hist join date is only a little after mine...
kabenon007 wrote:I am however cranky, but wouldn't you be too if no one is believing you?
Ball's back in your court.kabenon007 wrote:My case against JDodge is not insubstantial, you are just all listening to vollkan and not taking into account my arguments. You all just listen to him, thinking him to be the all knowing voice of wisdom.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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Oh, and just to prove my point about the fluffed-up Kab posts, I have crossed out all of the fluff from this one:
kabenon007 wrote:Sigh, at least she's consistent. Consistent in her refusal to see wrong in vollkan.He does exactly the same thing I did that whole page, except that you only target me.Pay attention to this, as this should cause red flags in some people's scumdars.Talk is action in this game, it's the only action we have. Any posts, be they short or long, provide some sort of information. And obviously I didn't fail to defend myself, as some people's opinions have changed of me.Granted, they changed back, but that's beside the point.
I have voted for basically only two people this entire game. JDodge and Vollkan. How is that not showing committment in some way?You are very selective in what you bring to the table. I also believe you are not voting me. Are you noncomittal as well? We should make a club.
Tell me what is insubstantial about them, so that I may refute certain partsrather than try to read your mind and guess which parts are insubstantial, so that I may better give information.
If this is the case, then you view scumtells through biased eyes.You do not like them and therefore carry a certain view about them even before you hear about them, and it seems to me that it is likely that you wouldn't listen to the greatest scumtell in the world.Therefore, there is nothing I can do in relation to trying to convince you that this tell is worthwhile.
Whiny, according to dictionary.com is complaining, fretful, cranky.
I complain about nothing. Mostly it's sarcasm.I take what you accused me of, repeated it so anyone who hadn't seen your accusations might know what I was referring to, and then refuted it. That's not complaining, that's going about refuting your argument in a logical and organized fashion. I am however cranky, but wouldn't you be too if no one is believing you?
And I can't think of something clever to say about not being fretful, but, eh, I'm not. That about sums it up.P.S.I voted your scum-encrusted rear in post #392. READ THE THREAD.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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What, no response to any of my case? My points? My retorts? Just, once again, a simple, contentless post with some bullshit in it?kabenon007 wrote:Vollkan, I've already said that it's an obvious thought process. Scum have reasons not to read the thread, even if that is one out of one hundred scum that don't read thread, that is still more than townies who don't read thread.
Mizzy once again attacks my posts, reducing the so called fluff. Most of said fluff that she crossed out is directed at her and so she declares it to be fluff. Awesome.unvote, vote: Mizzy.
What I crossed out were filler sentences that I ALREADY ADDRESSED in the previous post of mine.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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I marked it as fluff because it's an extra he threw in that didn't help his case; it hurt it. He tried to play it off like it didn't matter. It didn't need to be in there; it may help us, but to the purpose of his post, it's fluff.vollkan wrote: I'm not sure this bit is actually fluff. The fact people changed back just reflects how your play is being viewed, which is important.
Fluff because he's trying to pass a lie off as truth, and again toss in a diss. It didn't need to be in there; it may help us, but to the purpose of his post, it's fluff.vollkan wrote:Not fluff. She had voted you though. YOU AREN'T READING THE THREAD!! The stuff about her being noncommital is meaningless swiping.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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You ARE dead. That was the lynch vote, unless I miss my guess.kabenon007 wrote:Eh, if being suicidal is the only way to open the eyes of the town once I am dead and gone to the deeds of Mizzy and perhaps vollkan and JDodge, then so be it. Nothing else was working. Maybe once I am revealed to be town, you'll think more about what I said.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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I'm going to re-read too...I thought I had a really solid case and I feel like a good bit of butt about being wrong. I'm sorry. I'll understand if I come under fire for it.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
Nightson: "I'd be more then happy to play with Ether and Mizzy. At the same time."
Muerrto: "Mizzy is my hero and I wanna be like her when I grow younger <3"-
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Before we all start voting, perhaps we should do some talking? I back a no-lynch but we can get some info from this, too, before we hammer a no-lynch home.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
Nightson: "I'd be more then happy to play with Ether and Mizzy. At the same time."
Muerrto: "Mizzy is my hero and I wanna be like her when I grow younger <3"-
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*sigh* I just feel like it's giving up, I guess. But you're right.vollkan wrote:No Lynch is the best option for us today. We will then open up tomorrow with more information. Prolonging discussion today will not be of any substantial help (at best) and will potentially give the scum more of a lead regarding who to NK.
Vote: No LynchPokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
Nightson: "I'd be more then happy to play with Ether and Mizzy. At the same time."
Muerrto: "Mizzy is my hero and I wanna be like her when I grow younger <3"-
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Phate, who have you been talking to? If it's a townie, then you might get mod-killed, and if you don't get mod-killed or mod-smacked in some way...then you didn't break the rules...PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
Nightson: "I'd be more then happy to play with Ether and Mizzy. At the same time."
Muerrto: "Mizzy is my hero and I wanna be like her when I grow younger <3"-
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