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Post Post #107 (isolation #0) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:24 am

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In post 96, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I haven’t reveived my role pm. Ahh.
I’m not voting Espeonage for council president btw. Fuck you.
Bitmap, take my vote.
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Post Post #108 (isolation #1) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:25 am

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VOTE: Adorable
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Post Post #111 (isolation #2) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:40 am

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Whichever of Bitmap or Espeonage makes me the better avi gets my vote.

I reserve the right to retract, rescind, or revise this offer as new information, win condition, or personal whim dictates.
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Post Post #381 (isolation #3) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:54 pm

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As amused as I am by Eragon's recent posting, I'm fine with the wagon on him. I'm suspicious of this slot for personal reasons and the filler walls aren't helping him for me.

I like my vote. felt very forced and unnecessary from Adorable and the vote was mostly just OMGUS anyway. feels very empty to me. The Xtoxm, Norway, and Bitmap townreads just feel too easy as well. I feel like these players were/are already gaining traction from other players as townreads and the lack of any real suspicion from this slot is concerning.

I'm fine with Bitmap + Espeonage neighborhood. I would like one of Shadow or myself to be included though (preferably me).
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Post Post #413 (isolation #4) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:34 pm

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In post 385, Adorable wrote:You didn't give any reasoning to your vote and I saw it odd you voted a player who didn't say anything at the time.
When you vote someone, you need to at least explain why rather than saying nothing.
Normally I tend to scum read a player who doesn't give any reasoning to their votes. Also, I couldn't even tell if this was a serious vote or not.
Fair.

However, your vote on me is the least of my reasons for keeping my vote on you. And my votes are always serious, they just aren't always substantiated by something.
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Post Post #417 (isolation #5) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:39 pm

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In post 391, Espeonage wrote:
In post 79, Wondertime wrote:Are we ready to play some mafia? Yee haw!
-Time
In post 84, Wondertime wrote:who knew scum!krazy would be such an easy fucking catch
VOTE: Yumeko and Kirari
I would argue this is when rvs STARTED. It's after that point.

I'd rather not deal with sorting the slot bc I already have four null-scum reads which is far too many.
I disagree. I believe RVS started here:
In post 20, Espeonage wrote:Well then, guess we play normally.

Vote: Norway


You scum slipped.
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Post Post #448 (isolation #6) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:57 pm

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In post 248, Farkran wrote:Catchup finished. Admire my almighty truthfully readlist:

TOWN
NorwegianboyEE
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Xtoxm

Amrun
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Yumeko and Kirari
Brian Skies
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TOO MUCH NULL
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In post 358, Adorable wrote:I'm leaning town on Xtoxm and Norway.
In post 359, Adorable wrote:First time playing with Bitmap and his play also looks town.
:!:

I think Adorable may have copied Farkran's townreads.
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Post Post #450 (isolation #7) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:44 am

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In post 406, Wondertime wrote:
In post 366, Bitmap wrote:VOTE: Eragon

I support this. The first few pages were just fluff posting from Eragon.
SO WHY AREN'T WE KILLING THIS?
Are you advocating Bitmap's or Eragon's death here?
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Post Post #451 (isolation #8) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:45 am

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In post 408, Espeonage wrote:They theory. Why didn't Adorable OMGUS Brian if they thought it was a naked serious vote with no real reasoning.

Does it mean Adorable is scared?

Like the closest thing to analysis is a soft omegas without a vote.
Adorable did actually OMGUS vote me.
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Post Post #452 (isolation #9) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:53 am

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In post 421, Farkran wrote:I think you need to elaborate better on your read of Eragon. And Shadowless.

Also, while i might agree with you on Adorable, i think the proper way to address the issue would have been asking Adorable to elaborate their reads first. Why do you assume there should have been suspicion? Do you have any suspicion towards Xtoxm, Norway and Bitmap?
No, I don't.

I feel like I've already been fairly straightforward regarding Adorable's reads. It doesn't have to do with me thinking Xtoxm, Norway, or Bitmap being suspicious, but me thinking Adorable threw out easy townreads without reasoning and hasn't pushed anything resembling an fos or scumread up to this point.
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Post Post #454 (isolation #10) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:07 am

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What did you ask me?
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Post Post #456 (isolation #11) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:10 am

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I literally just responded to those.
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Post Post #458 (isolation #12) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:13 am

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In post 421, Farkran wrote:I think you need to elaborate better on your read of Eragon. And Shadowless.
I don't need to elaborate on this, so I won't.
In post 421, Farkran wrote:Why do you assume there should have been suspicion?
I don't understand what you're asking here.

I don't believe the slot was scumhunting, hence the 'lack of suspicion from this slot'.
In post 421, Farkran wrote:Do you have any suspicion towards Xtoxm, Norway and Bitmap?
No, but that is not the point.
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Post Post #460 (isolation #13) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:18 am

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I appreciate your understanding.
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Post Post #529 (isolation #14) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:14 pm

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In post 463, Shadowlesscloud wrote:Also i think im in a neighborhood by my self?
This amuses me much more than it should.
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Post Post #531 (isolation #15) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:21 pm

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In post 505, Wondertime wrote:I advise that Brian and Espeonage move to another wagon! While Adorable certainly is focused on one target I can't help but tell they're two good waifus going after each other. Poor things. With our powers combined, we can defeat the evil that lurks within our group!
I feel like I was misguided. I was hoping I could catch Adorable the same way I caught scum-Regfan (although I don't want to say 'caught' since I ended up letting him get away), but meh.
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Post Post #532 (isolation #16) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:40 pm

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I'm actually not a huge fan of Shadow. He posts a lot but it's mostly just noise.

Espeonage, why was/is this slot your main candidate for neighboring?
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Post Post #538 (isolation #17) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:18 pm

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VOTE: Xtoxm
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Post Post #562 (isolation #18) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:00 pm

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In post 540, Eragon wrote:
In post 463, Shadowlesscloud wrote:Also i think im in a neighborhood by my self?
this is why no one likes Aqua as a character
In post 545, Eragon wrote:Yes please neighborhood me and Shadow I want to meme on him as the superior waifu lordess.
Why aren't
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Post Post #566 (isolation #19) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:05 pm

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In post 565, Eragon wrote:
In post 564, Eragon wrote:
In post 562, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 540, Eragon wrote:
In post 463, Shadowlesscloud wrote:Also i think im in a neighborhood by my self?
this is why no one likes Aqua as a character
In post 545, Eragon wrote:Yes please neighborhood me and Shadow I want to meme on him as the superior waifu lordess.
Why aren't
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hell if I know tbh
actually I probably know why but its not relevant to this game
???
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Post Post #630 (isolation #20) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:49 am

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You should neighborize me because I'm already in a hood.

I don't feel like farkran is the type of player that needs one to be effective, but I wouldn't mind if he got picked over me. I think he's town anyway.

I'm busy the next few days so
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Post Post #759 (isolation #21) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:09 am

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If there are other people pressuring that slot for me, then why do I have to do it?
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Post Post #766 (isolation #22) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:41 am

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In post 760, Farkran wrote:Brian, why are you voting xtoxm?
I have too many townreads. If Adorable isn't scum, and I'm to trust Espy on Eragon (I do think he might be town off of play, I just suspect him based on flavor), then I don't have enough space in my reads to be giving free towncred to Xtoxm for his claim (I don't subscribe to that school of thought anyway). I also don't think his claim is that townish to begin with since it seems like a way for scum to draw out visiting town roles and so far the only thing resembling an fos from that slot is the lazy shoutout against Shireen for not having posted yet (to which we already know the major reason that hasn't happened yet and nothing new has come from this slot except stating he should be townread for having fullclaimed and yet I don't see a flavor or really anything and I wouldn't townread him for that anyway; like he felt the need to claim a rejected flavor pick and not his real one, what?). Even if he has the role he's claiming to have, there are only two roles I'd treat as town based on claim and they're mod-confirmed.

I'm not really interested in a Shireen lynch right now. It's a toss-up and gives me almost no information either way. It's possible she just hasn't gotten around to catching up in this game (it's still early and we're already up to page 31). Like even I'm really only here right now because I just got back from work and I'm too cold to sleep.
In post 761, Farkran wrote:Are you in a hood with shadowless? Otherwise, what makes you think that being in a hood gives you higher qualifications to join the student council hood over other players who already claimed being in a hood?
Yes, I'm Shadow's neighbor. At first I ignored the neighborhood because I just wanted to post in the game and sleep (athough there's no guarantee I would have posted in there today anyway). It's not like I have anything I'd share with Shadow today that I wouldn't just post in the main game thread.

I was curious to see if Eragon was in my neighborhood and wanted to see how Eragon+Shadow played out, and to see if Shadow could pick up that I was his neighbor without posting in there.

Who else already claimed to be in a hood? As far as I see it, neighborizing me or Shadow is a good way to link both hoods and I'd obviously rather it be me than him, especially since he's already admitted to having fed town false information as scum before.
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Post Post #769 (isolation #23) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:52 am

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In post 768, Wondertime wrote:
In post 766, Brian Skies wrote:I was curious to see if Eragon was in my neighborhood and wanted to see how Eragon+Shadow played out, and to see if Shadow could pick up that I was his neighbor without posting in there.
It was pretty obvious tbh
Let's just say the former turned into suspicion of one slot and the latter turned into my own personal amusement.
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Post Post #772 (isolation #24) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:54 am

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I'm fully capable of posting in a hood. There's just no reason to right now.
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Post Post #773 (isolation #25) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:55 am

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Also, like I said, my desire to be neighborized is mostly to take advantage of the multiple hoods. Like, I would not be heartbroken if I wasn't chosen.
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Post Post #778 (isolation #26) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:01 am

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You mean scum.
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Post Post #782 (isolation #27) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:07 am

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The reason I haven't voted Yumeko yet is because I was convinced Adorable was scum. When I no longer thought this was the case, Yumeko and Eragon were engaging in a long meta discussion I didn't care about and I was still suspicious of Eragon. So I went ahead and joined Bitmap on a different fos of mine.

I can see Yumeko being scum. I just chose to vote Xtoxm instead.
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Post Post #783 (isolation #28) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:10 am

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I also wasn't ready to potentially end the day without either solidifying a read on my neighbor or shoring up my other reads.
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Post Post #785 (isolation #29) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:13 am

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In post 782, Brian Skies wrote:Yumeko and Eragon were engaging in a long meta discussion I didn't care about
This is actually false.

The meta discussion came after I voted Xtoxm? I guess I just wanted to vote Xtoxm. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post Post #787 (isolation #30) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:16 am

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In post 786, Xtoxm wrote:follow this logical train of thought for more than 2 seconds, schmuck
what happens when i cant prove the role exists?
as scum, i have precluded myself from endgaming, immediately at the start of d1
why do i do this as scum?

if the role ive claimed is real, and town aligned, hypothetically, then do you agree that it needs to be claimed to get any value out of it?
do you think pissing in the dark and hoping we hit each other is a better way to play my role?
I literally do not read players off of claims and am known to shamelessly attempt to lynch investigative claims from players I think are scummy.

Like I literally do not care about your claim.
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Post Post #788 (isolation #31) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:17 am

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Alisae was a mafia loud doctor and I tunneled him for the entirety of like 5 or so in game days until I stole a gun from his buddy and shot him. Like that should let you know how I feel about claims and players that think they should be townread from it.
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Post Post #792 (isolation #32) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:19 am

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They all happened around the same time so it's a little jumbled. Also they're not strictly cause and effect (like they all happened around the same time but are only indirectly related to each other if that makes sense).
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Post Post #796 (isolation #33) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:21 am

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In post 793, Wondertime wrote:(You also said it was scummy I didn’t doc Tammy)
I don't remember this specifically.

But I did mostly scumread you for how you handled your role.
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Post Post #798 (isolation #34) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:24 am

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In post 794, Farkran wrote:
In post 532, Brian Skies wrote:I'm actually not a huge fan of Shadow. He posts a lot but it's mostly just noise.

Espeonage, why was/is this slot your main candidate for neighboring?
So... what is this post about?

Why are you expressing doubt on Shadowless joining the student council hood?
Why didn't you support Espeonage for president, and sheeped bitmap instead?
I just don't think my neighbor is that particularly townish. Like, on play I thought Eragon was townier. But on flavor I suspected Eragon (like I'd expect Eragon to be in our hood but he isn't?). It's a weird dilemma I'm in.

I don't understand the bolded.
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Post Post #800 (isolation #35) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:26 am

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Also, I'm not the fastest reader and have to reread games several times to get a comprehensive idea of what's going on in a game. This game has reached the point where it would take a lot of time to do that and I don't have that right now. It's also why I tend to tunnel or ignore interactions.
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Post Post #804 (isolation #36) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:32 am

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In post 799, Farkran wrote:Are you a konosuba hood?

Wrt the bolded, Espeonage wanted Shadowless in the student council hood. What's your read of espeonage?
Yes, I'm in a Konosuba hood. It's not confirmed to me who has access, so it doesn't surprise me that Shadow didn't know I was his neighbor (I only knew because he's been posting in there).

I think Espeonage is town. I have other stronger townreads, but I'm not really that concerned about him right now.
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Post Post #807 (isolation #37) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:37 am

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I like the Wonder head better.
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Post Post #810 (isolation #38) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:38 am

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You can do better Ali.
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Post Post #811 (isolation #39) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:38 am

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Also kind of hard to draw a bullet if you're shading me.
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Post Post #814 (isolation #40) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:41 am

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In post 808, Xtoxm wrote:4. Amrun - i dont tr, there was a post about "choo choo" for a wagon that i felt was pretty out of the place at the time and pinged me but eh.
You didn't like Amrun supporting her own wagon gaining traction?
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Post Post #816 (isolation #41) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:42 am

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In post 815, Wondertime wrote:Oh or xtoxm can just scum it up great love it
:igmeou:
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Post Post #818 (isolation #42) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:44 am

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I'm also pretty sure I never called him a POE lynch.
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Post Post #819 (isolation #43) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:45 am

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Didn't really pay that much attention to that to be honest, but I'm also already voting him.
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Post Post #823 (isolation #44) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:50 am

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I'm already voting him Ali.

What are
you
doing? (This is rhetorical, I already know you're lyching Yume).

Also, I'm more interested in the other issues with that post than him just OMGUS'ing the guy that won't let him get a free ride off his claim (which apparently some people didn't like me doing anyway, but now all of a sudden he's scummy and it's a reason to FOS him instead?).
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Post Post #826 (isolation #45) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:51 am

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I don't even want to call it an OMGUS. He's not even throwing suspicion back at me. Just doesn't like my stance on his claim.
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Post Post #828 (isolation #46) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:53 am

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VOTE: Yumeko
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Post Post #1068 (isolation #47) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:11 pm

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I don't understand why you think Eragon is basically conftown. It's possible that it's just his role.

VOTE: Xotxm
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Post Post #1073 (isolation #48) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:14 pm

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Not really.

Xtoxm is scummy independently of the wagons.
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Post Post #1074 (isolation #49) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:15 pm

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In post 1069, Amrun wrote:It has absolutely nothing to do with his silencing and everything to do with the interactions with both flipped scum.
I agree that he's really town based off of play.
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Post Post #1078 (isolation #50) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:17 pm

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Actually, I think I know what may have happened last night but if it's true, then lol.
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Post Post #1080 (isolation #51) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:18 pm

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In post 1076, Farkran wrote:Thanks to a certain passive perk of mine, i know exactly what happened last night regarding the kills, and i will explain in due time.
Actually maybe not.
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Post Post #1082 (isolation #52) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:20 pm

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In post 1075, Amrun wrote:Like are you seriously arguing that the scum double busses their partner on day 1? And had a long, drawn out argument? No. Eragon is town.
You do realize that I'm agreeing with you that he's town, just not for the same reasons, right?
In post 1075, Amrun wrote:So you think the two top wagons at eod 1 were both on scum?
Yes.
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Post Post #1083 (isolation #53) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:21 pm

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In post 1075, Amrun wrote:So you think the two top wagons at eod 1 were both on scum?
I'm Darkness. I can't die until certain conditions are met.
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Post Post #1085 (isolation #54) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:22 pm

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Idk why I quoted that, but that's my fullclaim.
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Post Post #1087 (isolation #55) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:23 pm

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Scum gets a free night phase.
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Post Post #1089 (isolation #56) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:25 pm

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I'm also trashtier and can still upgrade, which I find hilarious.
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Post Post #1090 (isolation #57) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:27 pm

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Oh, and Shadow can confirm I'm in his neighborhood now.
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Post Post #1094 (isolation #58) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:34 pm

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I would not be surprised if it was self-induced.
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Post Post #1098 (isolation #59) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:37 pm

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In post 1096, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 1094, Brian Skies wrote:I would not be surprised if it was self-induced.
I expected Eragon's role ability to be blowing people the fuck up.
Me too. But it would make sense to me if he just goes out of commission afterwards.
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Post Post #1101 (isolation #60) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:39 pm

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In post 1097, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Brian why are you voting Xtoxm, don't you have better scumreads?
I could buy maybe shadow or tse, but I really just think it's Xtoxm.

He has no townish content, no real fos's, and his play is centered around 'I'm town because of my claim' which is generally scumplay and not townplay.
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Post Post #1103 (isolation #61) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:40 pm

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I'm aligned with town. I have no active abilities yet, but I don't even know if I can gain them even if I upgrade.
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Post Post #1104 (isolation #62) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:41 pm

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Also, as claimed, my role does not synergize with Xtoxm's.
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Post Post #1107 (isolation #63) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:42 pm

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I'm not giving scum a free roadmap to killing me.
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Post Post #1108 (isolation #64) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:43 pm

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We don't go into double night. We just go into night and start over again tomorrow.
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Post Post #1110 (isolation #65) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:44 pm

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In post 1109, Amrun wrote:So you don’t die is what you’re saying?


This really doesn’t seem like a town role.
Yes, that is what I'm saying.

Well I'm town, so it must be.
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Post Post #1113 (isolation #66) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:47 pm

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In post 1111, NorwegianboyEE wrote:You talk big, but are you really that big of a threat to the scum to justify this secrecy?
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Post Post #1115 (isolation #67) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:50 pm

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Oh, I'm just speculating based on flavor.

I'm probably wrong though.
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Post Post #1125 (isolation #68) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:21 pm

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In post 314, Shadowlesscloud wrote:btw i think bitmap and esp either have to be t/t or s/s.

them being t/s would offset the balance of their roles, and im assuming this is their only ability which would mean the scum gain the advantage here while the town one of them would be pretty weak considering.

that being said i like both to a certain degree so far so t/t is where im sitting
I could buy this being indicative of Shadow scum, but I still just want to end Xtoxm on principle.
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Post Post #1134 (isolation #69) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:29 pm

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I'm actually fine with tse's play so far. I think everyone else is town.

Xtoxm is the only person I'm scumreading. I can see Shadow being scum, but it's not a read I would be confident in.
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Post Post #1166 (isolation #70) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:10 pm

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2-3 scum is standard for a mini.
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Post Post #1169 (isolation #71) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:15 pm

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Typically you won't see more than 3 scum unless you're in a Large, it's multiball (2 teams of 2 scum), or there's an SK.

This game's win condition is explicit in that there is one scumteam (so we don't have to worry about multiball or an SK).

There could be more than 3 scum, but it's unlikely, since townplay on this site is bad enough that when left to their own devices, they play worse than expected EV.
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Post Post #1174 (isolation #72) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:30 pm

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Wonder.
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Post Post #1177 (isolation #73) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:57 pm

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TSE, why did you choose to vig Farkran?
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Post Post #1179 (isolation #74) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:09 pm

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Can you point out specifically what you disliked about their interactions?
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Post Post #1181 (isolation #75) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:01 pm

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Adorable wagon happened before Yumeko wagon.
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Post Post #1183 (isolation #76) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:06 pm

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Aren't UPicks great?
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Post Post #1186 (isolation #77) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:11 pm

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I'm going to adjust my reads to:

Xtoxm is probably just the last scum here.
TSE is my maybe scumread but it's probably just Xtoxm.
Everyone else is varying degrees of town.
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Post Post #1188 (isolation #78) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:20 pm

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I don't. You're just at the bottom of my townreads (you moved down because Shadow moved up).

I still just think it's Xtoxm.
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Post Post #1191 (isolation #79) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:47 pm

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In post 1179, Brian Skies wrote:Can you point out specifically what you disliked about their interactions?
I asked you for this first.
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Post Post #1193 (isolation #80) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:07 pm

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Pretty sure Amrun led the lynch.
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Post Post #1194 (isolation #81) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:11 pm

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In post 1192, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:I’d have to ISO everything but what I remember is Farkran was at first town reading the scum lynch then changed vote.
I only see Farkran putting the Yume slot somewhere in the middle of his reads list.
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Post Post #1196 (isolation #82) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:15 pm

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post Post #1197 (isolation #83) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:16 pm

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I'll get a more developed reads list up in a bit.
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Post Post #1207 (isolation #84) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:50 pm

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I could probably elaborate more on some of these reads, but I'm lazy and you said I didn't have to. Also not an exact order (slots can be moved up or down a spot or two). But the general idea here is that I think all these players are town and Xtotm is scum (Xtotm gets his own post though).

Amrun:
Starts the Yume wagon here. Pushes against Yume and Bitmap in a way that I don't find scummy. Townish solvey posts (, , etc). This post felt town-motivated as well, especially since Amrun just finished modding a game for Adorable (scum-Amrun may not have felt the need to hold this stance regarding Adorable).

Eragon:
I'm going to cheat and reference Eragon wagon here with two scum jumping on (credit to Amrun; I just don't feel like nitpicking posts).

Farkran:
Presses Wonder to vote Yume right after Wonder votes Adorable in . They both join the Yume wagon in and . This is probably not the scum you're looking for. He also points out the questionable stuff I do and presses me on it in a way that doesn't feel scummy to me.

Norway:
Nothing specific that I can point to that says 'this guy is definitely not scum.' However, I feel like he's playing in a way that feels natural and chaotic and probably not scum-motivated. Just this solid stream of scumhunting mixed with lighthearted fun (I should probably revisit this read but I don't think Norway has been scummy).

Shadow:
Started off okayish but then generated a high noise-to-content ratio. He's helping me lynch Xtotm though, and I can buy him trying to fly under the radar so he can use his ability.

Adorable:
Everything after seems fine to me even though I don't agree with it.

TSE:
Yume votes this slot here (felt like a grab for low hanging fruit). Once TSE replaces in, chooses to vote Wonder instead of Xtotm (who was their counterwagon at the time). You could argue they didn't do so because that Xtotm was offering to upgrade them here, but I just don't see how that couldn't have been scum trying to find a way to diffuse the Yume wagon. is probably not SvS? The vig shot is also kind of ? but still somewhat consistent. You could also argue that they were trying to bus, but same argument could be said regarding Bitmap/Xtotm.
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Post Post #1208 (isolation #85) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:52 pm

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In post 484, Adorable wrote:From what I remember scum normally vote an inactive player and they do this so that they don't have to worry about getting a response back and inactives are also easy mislynches for scum.
Why do you find me voting for you scummy, but not Xtotm voting Shireen?
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Post Post #1211 (isolation #86) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:54 pm

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In post 1202, Farkran wrote:Eragon claimed (and now confirmed) vigilante in the hood, with the ability to shoot one target, killing him and all the players who visit said target. The drawback is that after shooting, he cannot talk or act for the next game phase. That's megumin for you.
This is actually really close to what I thought happened, although I thought he just straight up vigged the entire hood.
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Post Post #1215 (isolation #87) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:58 pm

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In post 1202, Farkran wrote:We win by lynching TSE (has a counterclaim pending) > Brian > xtoxm > adorable
This is enticing, but what happens when I don't die? I don't want to spend 6+ days watching you guys give scum free night phases.
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Post Post #1218 (isolation #88) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:01 pm

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VOTE: TSE
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Post Post #1219 (isolation #89) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:09 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #1221 (isolation #90) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:12 pm

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In post 1202, Farkran wrote:Bitmap visited me and espeonage to create the hood.
Are you sure this is how that ability works?
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Post Post #1224 (isolation #91) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:15 pm

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Did you have the neighborhood during Night 1, or just the one with Eragon?
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Post Post #1226 (isolation #92) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:16 pm

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VOTE: TSE
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Post Post #1227 (isolation #93) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:18 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #1229 (isolation #94) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:19 pm

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In post 1202, Farkran wrote:Wondertime was the nk.
If Wondertime was the NK, and Eragon shot Espy/Bitmap, it's possible Wondertime protected you from the vig shot.

Why can't we wait to see if they get resurrected and can confirm/deny this?
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Post Post #1231 (isolation #95) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:24 pm

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That is definitely not what I said.
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Post Post #1232 (isolation #96) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:25 pm

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We're talking about vig shots, not nightkills.
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Post Post #1234 (isolation #97) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:28 pm

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I agree that Elite BG would have killed TSE. But we don't know if that's what they chose.

Wonder is a super doc and I'm unkillable. I would not be surprised if there are multiple ways to kill players in this game.

I'm also having difficulty seeing TSE hardclaim vig in this position if he wasn't one.
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Post Post #1236 (isolation #98) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:35 pm

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In post 1229, Brian Skies wrote:it's possible Wondertime protected you from the vig shot.

Why can't we wait to see if they get resurrected and can confirm/deny this?
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Post Post #1238 (isolation #99) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:37 pm

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In post 1237, Farkran wrote:And honestly, herovigging me over almost literally anyone else in the playerlist is a REALLY, REALLY poor choice based on yesterday's events.
I've seen worse vigs.
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Post Post #1241 (isolation #100) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:39 pm

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VOTE: Xtoxm
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Post Post #1243 (isolation #101) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:45 pm

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In post 1240, Farkran wrote:If TSE is town this is almost gamethrowing.
Couldn't the same be true for TSE-scum claiming vig here?
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Post Post #1245 (isolation #102) » Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:55 pm

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Okay. Lynch TSE and tell me how it goes.
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Post Post #1247 (isolation #103) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:03 am

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I get that you're going is hurt by someone claiming to vig you, but I really don't think TSE is the play here.
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Post Post #1248 (isolation #104) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:03 am

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Ego*
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Post Post #1251 (isolation #105) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:39 am

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I'm gonna be real here. I'm really only worried about us both being wrong.
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Post Post #1266 (isolation #106) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:29 am

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In post 1064, Torque wrote:Welcome, Bitmap, You are
Bernie Sanders.
You are aligned with the
Bad waifus.
Your starting tier is Tier S. This is the highest tier, and thus you cannot be upgraded any further.

You promise more adequate health care services to the entire student body without a raise in their tuition fee.
Once per game during the night, you may activate medicare for all, and no mafia members will die this night, no matter what happens.
This makes me think multiple killing town roles is probably not impossible.
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Post Post #1274 (isolation #107) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:51 am

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In post 1272, Farkran wrote:I just don't buy double vigs in this setup, especially when one is unconfirmed with very unplausible reasons for failure
It's actually very plausible and still confirmable (I've already explained how we could potentially confirm it). You just don't want to.
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Post Post #1277 (isolation #108) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:53 am

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Bernie was actually kind of strong and he could have upgraded one or both of his teammates.
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Post Post #1280 (isolation #109) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:55 am

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Supposedly he died for making the neighborhood which only happened because he got elected.
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Post Post #1281 (isolation #110) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:56 am

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I'm not saying he did upgrade his teammates, just that the potential to do so was there.
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Post Post #1283 (isolation #111) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:57 am

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I didn't think it would have either, but apparently it's a night action?
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Post Post #1288 (isolation #112) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:01 am

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It's like what, one day/night cycle?
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Post Post #1289 (isolation #113) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:02 am

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You could always confirm my role if you'd like (although I'd prefer to just lunch Xtotm here).
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Post Post #1291 (isolation #114) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:03 am

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In post 1290, Farkran wrote:
In post 1288, Brian Skies wrote:It's like what, one day/night cycle?
Seriously?
I don't know how to respond to this.
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Post Post #1296 (isolation #115) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:17 am

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In post 1295, Farkran wrote:
In post 1291, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 1290, Farkran wrote:
In post 1288, Brian Skies wrote:It's like what, one day/night cycle?
Seriously?
I don't know how to respond to this.
Can we just not crumb random stuff for no reason please

If you know of a role with an ability to resurrect, that would explain your request and the existence of multiple town killing roles, otherwise it's unheard of and it makes no sense.
Pretty sure my neighbor has been crumbling it.

I'm not crumbling it. I just don't know what you're trying to say here
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Post Post #1301 (isolation #116) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:56 am

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The person I'm voting.
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Post Post #1310 (isolation #117) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:40 am

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VOTE: Brian Skies
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Post Post #1311 (isolation #118) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:42 am

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I'm at L-1. Test my claim, revive Wonder, and we can figure out which of TSE/Xtotm to lynch tomorrow.
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Post Post #1313 (isolation #119) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:46 am

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In post 1306, Farkran wrote:I find it really, really unrealistic to see both TSE and Brian telling the truth, which means xtoxm and shadowless probably are
I also don't understand these dichotomies here. What does Shadow's role have to do with Xtotm's?
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Post Post #1314 (isolation #120) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:47 am

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In post 1312, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Or we can just lynch one of TSE/Xtoxm now. Self-votes are stupid and it looks scummy that you're trying to make us waste a day just to "prove" your claim.
Then I must be scum.

Vote me to find out.
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Post Post #1316 (isolation #121) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:52 am

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We can potentially confirm as many as all of Xtotm, Shadow, TSE, and myself in one go (and lynch the one that isnt).

So what are you waiting for Farkran?
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Post Post #1348 (isolation #122) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:27 am

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I'm a 1-Shot Deathproof.

If I survive a kill, I become S-Tier. If I get lynched, day just ends.

Please get me out of this game.
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Post Post #1356 (isolation #123) » Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:51 am

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In post 1351, Amrun wrote:
In post 1348, Brian Skies wrote:I'm a 1-Shot Deathproof.

If I survive a kill, I become S-Tier. If I get lynched, day just ends.

Please get me out of this game.

So if we lynched you twice, you’d die?
Yes.
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Post Post #1384 (isolation #124) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:27 am

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VOTE: TSE
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Post Post #1395 (isolation #125) » Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:53 pm

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VOTE: Xtotm
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Post Post #1410 (isolation #126) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:56 am

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He never claimed in the neighborhood. However, he was softing it pretty heavily starting here:
In post 1156, Shadowlesscloud wrote:
/vote xtoxm


This needs to die tbh. Theyve been hella scummy and i have an ability that confirms myself as town if need be, which is why ive been partly coasting.
In post 1160, Shadowlesscloud wrote:It goes into effect tonight but itll be obvious what it is when it happens.
In post 1172, Shadowlesscloud wrote:I need to ask, of all the dead town rn, ehos the most important?
In post 1173, Shadowlesscloud wrote:Like i have my opinion but i wannna leave it up to everyonenelse
It also matches his flavor which is pretty much confirmed to me.
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Post Post #1411 (isolation #127) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:01 am

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In post 1400, Shadowlesscloud wrote:multiball
No.
In post 1400, Shadowlesscloud wrote:mafia having a killing power role?
Maybe.
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Post Post #1415 (isolation #128) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:24 am

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Xtotm's role hasn't been confirmed to us.

He also claims he was compulsive and wouldn't be able to change his target, two aspects of his role I believe a competent town player would have disclosed ON DAY 1 if they felt it was absolutely necessary to claim in the first place.

His entire modus operandi thus far has been to claim his role (and not very well) and claim towncred for claiming it. And his scumhunting is purely mechanical up to this point. He's not town.
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Post Post #1416 (isolation #129) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:25 am

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It would not surprise me if he was a PGO baiting townies to visit him for night kills.
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Post Post #1422 (isolation #130) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:36 am

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In post 223, Xtoxm wrote:so if your role sounds like the counterpart to mine, and you also dont mind revealing that, then reach out to me
otherwise i guess i'll just pick someone at random and state that i'm targeting you and that person can reciprocate if they want i guess
Does this sound like someone with a compulsive role that may or may not be locked on their Night 1 target?
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Post Post #1425 (isolation #131) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:41 am

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In post 223, Xtoxm wrote:if anyone needs their tier upgrading, im your girl
HOWEVER, there is a very niche scenario in which is works.
we BOTH must be targeting each other
even then,
some abilities wont increase your tier. visitor, for example, i'm told wouldn't work.
This also seems oddly specific.

There are too many restrictions and constraints and I don't believe his role is actually a thing. Not to mention his entire claim crumbled the instant Bitmap died. Like I said, it wouldn't surprise me if he were a PGO of some sort and he was trying to bait our better town roles into visiting him.
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Post Post #1426 (isolation #132) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:42 am

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In post 1331, Amrun wrote:I do admit I targeted xtoxm hoping to be upgraded and was not (obviously). But I still think he’s more likely to be town.
Amrun visited Xtotm on Night 1.

Based on her ability, she most likely visited him again Night 2.
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Post Post #1432 (isolation #133) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:51 am

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In post 1431, Farkran wrote:everything points to someone healing me, which could have been wondertime but not with the elite BG power.
Oh gee, if only someone thought of this on Day 1...
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Post Post #1433 (isolation #134) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:51 am

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Day 2, but you know what I meant.
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Post Post #1437 (isolation #135) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:54 am

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In post 1435, Farkran wrote:Why doesn't he activate it n1 then?
Probably because nobody said they were going to visit him.
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Post Post #1440 (isolation #136) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:03 am

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In post 1425, Brian Skies wrote:There are too many restrictions and constraints and I don't believe his role is actually a thing. Not to mention his entire claim crumbled the instant Bitmap died.
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Post Post #1441 (isolation #137) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:05 am

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Also, wasn't Yumeko technically a Day action?

That would leave just Amrun and maybe Norway.
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Post Post #1444 (isolation #138) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:09 am

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She confirmed him as Thot Tier.
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Post Post #1449 (isolation #139) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:14 am

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All that confirms to me is that they were Thot tier. Which would make some sense as a restriction to Bitmap's role (can upgrade a player twice, but one of their partners is immune so would be forced to pick a townie with second use; otherwise it would just be 'I wan't to upgrade both my teammates').
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Post Post #1456 (isolation #140) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:08 am

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In post 1158, Xtoxm wrote:Go ahead and activate your ic then.
If your "conftown" is anything less than that, not interested.
Not into the soft claim either.
Pretty backwards reaction to Shadow's softing here, especially in light of his own claim.
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Post Post #1461 (isolation #141) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:47 am

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In post 1316, Brian Skies wrote:We can potentially confirm as many as all of Xtotm, Shadow, TSE, and myself in one go (and lynch the one that isnt).
In post 1317, Farkran wrote:
In post 1316, Brian Skies wrote:We can potentially confirm as many as all of Xtotm, Shadow, TSE, and myself in one go (and lynch the one that isnt).
Sorry, i'm not following your thought process. How are we going to confirm everything in one go?

You mean lynch you today to confirm immortality, wait for resurrection to confirm shadowless, confirm TSE if wondertime picked doc and healed me, and if all these claims are true we lynch xtoxm?

That's a valid option too, i guess, but i don't see the reason for so much paranoia over lynching the counterclaimed unconfirmable dumb vig instead of wasting a day - assuming you are sincere. There is no reason to townlock you or TSE even if we do this.

Shadow will still resurrect wondertime and be townlocked if this happens, otherwise he's not even scumlocked because scum could have a roleblocker, downgrader or some other shit that could prevent the resurrection to happen.

I just don't see any real reason to defend TSE atm and lynch anyone else over him, why do you?
In post 1324, Xtoxm wrote:we cant confirm me, i cant change target, im stuck on adorable all game now, in a master-servant contract.
she says she can't be upgraded so im functionally vanilla.
i tried my best to set up use of my role yesterday and the only person who reached out to me was scum.
i will never be confirmable so feel free to lynch me today.

after me and tse flip town you will have to start looking at the possibility that brian is scum.
Only claims he
can't
be confirmed after I suggest confirming several slots at once. Pretty sure this is also the first mention of him only being able to select one player to upgrade, and it still doesn't match his Day 1 play.
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Post Post #1465 (isolation #142) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:01 am

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That's not what he meant.
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Post Post #1527 (isolation #143) » Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:09 pm

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Can we finish our massclaim today?
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Post Post #1528 (isolation #144) » Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:19 pm

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@Adorable: Who would you think is scum if I flipped town?
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Post Post #1529 (isolation #145) » Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:24 pm

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In post 1515, Adorable wrote:I also have a passive ability that confirmed Xtoxm did in fact visit me
Is there a reason you didn't mention this before?
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Post Post #1530 (isolation #146) » Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:45 pm

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I can't think of a reason to explain the two Night 3 kills.
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Post Post #1531 (isolation #147) » Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:45 pm

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Night 2* kills.
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Post Post #1532 (isolation #148) » Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:59 pm

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In post 1452, Adorable wrote:We can ask Xtoxm on who did he visit last night to upgrade or did he visit me again.

@xtoxm Who did you visit last night?
In post 1515, Adorable wrote:I also have a passive ability that confirmed Xtoxm did in fact visit me
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Post Post #1534 (isolation #149) » Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:55 pm

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It's a shame I can only be scum if Eragon was lying though.
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Post Post #1536 (isolation #150) » Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:56 pm

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In post 1496, Eragon wrote:actually day 1 ended up being useless information. Farkran learned that the role list was full of anime girls, which turned out to be a lie.

Day 2 Farkran learned that the scum has tiers of S, A, C, but this is a lie as well, so I don't think there's much to go from here (although I do believe it confirms a 3-man mafia team)


HOWEVER

Day 3, Farkran learned that there is NO TOWN WAIFU that can survive death
BUT, as this MUST be a lie

then there WOULD be a town waifu who can survive death

as Brian can survive death, and no one else has claimed so

then I believe Brian to be town.

This leaves the last scum to be either adorable or Shadowless imo
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Post Post #1538 (isolation #151) » Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:00 pm

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Why have you been town reading Shadow?
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Post Post #1545 (isolation #152) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:46 am

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If you think I'm scum, then today is your last chance to get my flip.
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Post Post #1546 (isolation #153) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:48 am

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Although I can buy Eragon as a strong candidate for a Nightkill, there is no world where I can see Shadow being NK'ed over anyone else that has already flipped, much in the same vein that I didn't think Xtoxm's play or claim warranted a NK either.
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Post Post #1551 (isolation #154) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:05 am

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In post 1547, Shadowlesscloud wrote:/God Fist Eragon
/God Requiem Adorable
/Sacred Exorcism NorwegianboyEE
GG bois ezpz
Should I be offended that I was excluded here?
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Post Post #1555 (isolation #155) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:09 am

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If town didn't lynch me today, I was going to lynch you today or tomorrow, so I don't blame you for conceding.
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Post Post #1557 (isolation #156) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:10 am

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Sure, I can accept a friendly hypothetical endgame scenario.
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Post Post #1561 (isolation #157) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:12 am

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The only explanation I could think of for the second nightkill was that your ability was as revealed. So I'm glad to see that was the case here.

Farkran too strong I guess.
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Post Post #1563 (isolation #158) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:13 am

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Yeah, I combed through Norway's iso and he was blindingly town to me.
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Post Post #1567 (isolation #159) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:15 am

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Yeah, I feel like that pretty much sealed your fate.

Game was still probably winnable for you before then (assuming town lynches me and I think there is a decent chance they would have at least tried without that information).
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Post Post #1585 (isolation #160) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:29 am

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Lol. I'm the only player (let alone townie) that voted for Espeonage.
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Post Post #1597 (isolation #161) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:01 am

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I scumread him throughout the game, except for the short period where he claimed he could bring back Wonder and I was still scumreading Xtoxm.
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Post Post #1601 (isolation #162) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:06 am

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I just think there were too many targets.

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