populartajo 151 wrote:Pieces of information that DONT hurt town are TOTALLY DIFFERENT than pieces of information that DO hurt the town. Im criticizing the later, not the former.
Examples of pieces of information that DONT hurt the town are: the name of the ability, what kind of ability it is, its restriction, etc.
Examples of pieces of information that DO hurt the town are: telling the scum what name they shouldnt claim.
This isnt too hard, it is?
Your friend Vi should agree with me in this.
When did I turn into Mr. Rogers?
Nonetheless, given that this game has plagiarized the Mind Screw name, I would say that the name of the ability is NOT a good thing to claim. In addition helping Town, claiming what kind of ability you have can also help scum, its restriction can help scum too. Further, claiming any of these D1 is no good in most cases.
Nitpicking aside, I believe that the G-man claims today were inevitable. You're welcome to criticize how it was revealed that everyone was talking about the same thing - which you are. So yes, I agree with you.
Considering I sparked this argument in 94, I'll continue it.
tajo 124 wrote:1) If I had information regarding that someone from somewhere is antitown, I simply dont share it in the thread. Someone though it was a good idea. I think it was stupid. Who was the first to post that?
2) Maybe scum cant daytalk and scum number 1 who prob get the note used that as a way to tell their scumpartner from HalfLife about it. Anything is possible here.
3) Meh, Ive been thinking lately that our friend from HalfLife is neutral or selfalligned, prob SK.
4) Now, what Im proposing is that we use our information to semiconfirm people, something very similar to what hp just did some posts ago.
5) Of course all is shit if scum did get the note.
6) So, where am I being hypocrite?
1) veerus (58) for what it's worth.
2) Reread what you just said - one scumpartner GOT the note, the other DIDN'T. Doesn't that outrightly invalidate the entire theory right there?
3) Does that change anything?
4) How on earth do you count that as hp "clearing" himself? He said "oh wait, I agree with what everyone else said".
5) Well you've made it seem like you'll believe anything at this point (see 4) and 2) ). You're shooting holes in your own theory, which makes me wonder why you're making it in the first place.
6) Hypocrite = contradictions. So see above.
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I don't think the Kairyuu vs. Illumina argument has any remaining merit to it the way it's being expressed. At this point Kairyuu is justifying beating a dead horse (and attempting to put it in a noose) with playstyle. This is effectively what he's saying here--
Kairyuu 140 wrote:You see, I would agree, except that my main method of scumhunting is argument. If I can get a scum into a heated debate, then they will slip up and trap themselves. You know, like you did. You either cede the points or I keep pushing. Also, this seems like you are backing down to get out of the spotlight, which scum try to avoid usually.
"I would agree that this is over nothing, BUT for the sake of argument, let's assume I don't."
Counterpoint:
Illumina 142 wrote:it's interesting that no one (presumably town-aligned) has admitted to also not having
[the note]
from the start.
Didn't you say you didn't have it? (Isn't that how this fight started anyway?)
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Kairyuu 51 wrote:I see. So Tar, your information is similar to mine? I suspect you may be who I am lookin for. I will origin claim if you do, but I would request that you go first.
Something I saw while I was rereading. I don't see how this makes sense now that (presumably) we know what the information is.
Kairyuu 157 wrote:Thank you. That is all I ask. I know that Nat can be a rather good player when he wants to, so I was hoping you could be persuaded as well. I'm glad I was right.
You're going waaaaaaay too soft on SSK here. Promise everything, deliver nothing, etc.
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@SSK: Why shouldn't I vote you?
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Cool people to lynch:
*Kairyuu
*tajo
*
(Your name could go here! Apply now!)
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@mod: Break out the prodstick.
Everything you say and do matters. People will respond in ways you may never see. May those responses be what you intend.