Mini 914 ~ Mafia Reverberation (Game Over!)

[Nachomamma8]

Welcome aboard Nachomamma.

Aww, thanks . At least SOMEONE noticed I was here.

That being said,

Unincant, Incant: zoraster

I wasn't happy with the good stuff, sorry. That was so lazy you might've just kept the stuff on the hydra and got rid of everything else. 2-5 doesn't really tell me anything, mind explaining some of those just a tiny bit?

[Nachomamma8]

@Nacho: I'm displeased with your entrance to the game. No thoughts on other players besides Zor? Is MO your scum partner?

I apologize for not coming into the game with a BANG, Rhinox. However, I'd advise you to examine your own posting before looking at mine. This is the first post you've made with content, and you haven't replaced into the game 2 days ago...

I also don't like your position on multi-lynching. The only reason you give against it is "we lose wagon analysis". You failed to realize that scum would be forced to actually DEFEND their scumpartner, instead of raising an alternative wagon on a townie. Also, we'd still join the wagon we felt strongest about by INCANTING or vocalizing about it. So, if we felt better about Wagon B and Wagon A was scum, and Wagon B was town, hey! there's something to analyze, right?

Zoraster needs to post with more content before I feel better about him, honestly. His major case on MO is that he really isn't taking stances on anything, but back when he and Zorblag were around, it was pretty early in the game and they didn't have that much of a chance to do a whole lot, so I don't see them being all that scummy.

[Nachomamma8]

Nacho and Jazzmyn, what do you think of Spyrex's lists?

I too would lynch Zoraster, Rhinox, and, to a lesser extent, Sotty.

I don't understand why Porkens and SC are don't lynch at any costs; they seem to me just to be low-activity players that I haven't got a read on yet. Jazz and VP also belong in this category, but I wouldn't mind lynching a lurker or two.

His MO town read is good, I agree with that.

As for the list itself, I can't say I understand it yet. But I'm sure he will explain it all when his wizardy self feels like it, and his double-voting stunt has given me a town read on him for the time being.

[Nachomamma8]

I'm a low activity player?

Glancing at you in ISO says different. I didn't remember you posting a whole lot, thus your addition to the list.

As for town read on MO, I like Papa Zito's aggressiveness. I'd like him to post more, but I don't mind waiting a little while since half of the hydra is missing.

[Nachomamma8]

I'll have a post up tomorrow, I promise. Been catching up with school today, so not a whole time to do a whole lot of reading. I do agree with Nik's parting words, though.

[Nachomamma8]

I'm joining the party now, guys...

MO:
I'm reluctant to lynch a hydra when only half of said hydra is here... If MO is to be involved in the purging, then I say we wait until Zorb shows up (unless he doesn't show up in 3 days or so) before killing.

Papa Zito has been fairly inactive so far, but I really can't rip too much on that, considering I've been one of the more inactive ones here myself. As for the questioning without giving opinions, I'd have to chalk that up to only having half a head, again.

Rhinox:
Rhinox is self-admitted third party. We can purge as many people as we want as once. Why not? Then there's the whole hypocrisy issue, but I don't really need to get into that unless I need to...

Jazzmyn:
Jazz has given more content than I have. Granted, she doesn't have my decidedly lovable personality, but she's still participated in the game a bit more than I have. One of those people who I feel we should give a Day 2 before the purging happens.


SerialClergyman:
His incessant talk about meta bothers me, especially in iso 26. His response when he was starting to come under heavy fire for being under fire was extremely suspicious to me, instead of stopping tunneling or expanding his case on his tunnellee, he sat back and pointed at his meta. MO and Rhinox are suspects that just jump out of the blue, and his former tops (Jahudo, Jazz, [VP/Porkens]), just disappear.

[Nachomamma8]

To be fair to Serial, I think I brought up the meta point first and then he tried to use it as a defense.

I wouldn't mind if SC talked about something more about the meta point. Before that, he spoke about absolutely nothing (save all of about 2 posts), and then when the meta discussion came around, that's pretty much all he's talked about.

Do you have anything to comment on other than the main wagons?

Sure... I'd like someone to explain why 2 is the golden number of lynches, especially if we aren't going to make them crossvote.

@Rhinox: Why did you give Moychendise out on Day 1? The Moychendiser wins when everyone has a piece of moychendise, whether he gives it out or not. In addition, you don't really know what you're doing in giving out the moychendise, so your basically just making the moychendiser's job easier...

[Nachomamma8]

You guys are lunatics. SC/Rhinox. *crosses arms*

This. I like this.

[Nachomamma8]

no u

Why would you want to purge Hero, anyways?

[Nachomamma8]

I'd prefer SC/Rhinox, or even SC/Sotty.

[Nachomamma8]

Wait, so I'm switching to...

Sotty?

Or SC when the time comes?

[Nachomamma8]

Incant: SerialClergymen

There.

[Nachomamma8]

I'd like too, but it's too chaotic >.>

[Nachomamma8]

Porkens, SC is at L-1.

[Nachomamma8]

If Serial votes himself, WE COULD PULL IT OFF

[Nachomamma8]

That was fucking beautiful.

VP, I love you.

[Nachomamma8]

Awww, Vi... that was nice. You gave Jah his birthday present!

VP is hero for squeezing Rhinox into those purging...

I'm betting our two last scum in Gamma, Jazz, Porkens, and Jah.

[Nachomamma8]

My bad then. Then you are a hero for squeezing Rhinox into the purge, better?

Sorry for the mistake; I'm tired right now and I'm procrastinating on writing a paper

[Nachomamma8]

Ohai guys, remember me???

Incant: Jazz

Vote: Jazz

Double Incant: Jazz

Incantum Duelium: Jazz

Anyways, I think the triple purge of Jazz/VP/Gamma is bad because I'm pretty sure that VP and Gamma are town. Instead, the purge should be me, Porkens, and Jazz. I don't mind dying because 1) I'd be going out with a bang, and 2) I'd be bringing the scum with me. Then, if for some off-the wall reason the game isn't over, VP and Gamma double purge one another.


Other than that, she lately really hasn't had any scum reads whatsoever. In her series of analysis posts, she really didn't follow up on any of her scumreads at all, and after those analysis posts, she's called a couple of people town, but hasn't said that anyone is even close to scum. I really don't like how her analysis post was afraid to call scum, instead calling town or neutral or neutral/leaning scum (the epitome of fence-sitting, might I add). And I'd like to add that I love the fact that she's been offering alternatives to the mass purge (like... playing the game), and yet she's not scumhunting at all. She's also putting on the act of the resigned townie "Well, you guys are stupid and this is a horrible idea... but there's nothing I can do to stop this."
I also don't like how timid she's playing, take for example her ISO 26, where she double-votes Jahudo and feels compelled to explain that it's not because she's suspicious of him...

Porkens:
The only evidence I really have against him is Rhinox's and Jazz's weak attacks against him, and the almighty process of elimination. Probably will look into it tomorrow when I have more time, but he's my second choice for scum.

Coming soon to a mafia game near you: Why Spyrex/Jahudo are town! :O

[Nachomamma8]

I don't normally post on Fri-Sat because those days are me-time...

[Nachomamma8]

Nothing in particular... Probably a combination of excessive free time and Jazz's scuminess.

[Nachomamma8]

I think the plan to go with is a triple purge of me, Jazz, and Jah today, then if the game isn't over, solo purge Porkens.

And the only people who still have double votes to use today are VP and Spyrex. If VP uses it today, then we can make sure he wasn't lying about his 2 one shot doublevoting abilities, although I am still wondering about the ability he hasn't told us about yet...

Spyrex, if you're afraid of shenanigans tomorrow, make sure that everyone doublevotes themselves at the beginning of the day, then votes No Purge. That way, everyone will have a placeholder stuck on themselves and no more doublevotes to use.

[Nachomamma8]

So do you approve more of a triple purge, just to be safe, or solo purges like Porkens suggested?

[Nachomamma8]

Would you be happier with me or Porkens?

And I'm pretty sure VP is town...

[Nachomamma8]

But, alas, my preference for three ways involves me, a guy, and another woman, and as far as I can tell, both you and Nacho are male, so that's not my ideal combination.

Well... Claiming abilities and/or saying who you think is scum would be helpful...


@Spyrex: Your read on Porkens continues to confuse me. Enlighten us UNIMPRESSIVE WIZARDS, please.

[Nachomamma8]

Are we talking about that whole "prove to me you're scum" scenario? Because that was way over my head...

[Nachomamma8]

The only person I can see being mafia other than Jazz is Porkens. Which is why I'm still convinced the three of us should have our three way... If there's only three mafia then nothing lost, and if there isn't, then the game will probably be over anyways.

[Nachomamma8]

1.) The scum is a multi-doublevoter

Only doublevoting possibilities we have are VP and Porkens, and Porkens is supposed to die in the big ball of fire, leaving VP as the only problem.

And if there are two scum, I'm pretty damn sure Jazz is one of them.

[Nachomamma8]

Nacho, why do you think VP could doublevote? He tried to and failed in post 782.

Secondly, I have one additional (A) ability on top of my double votes. Given I can only use one (A) ability a day, I planned to use my additional ability at some point during this phase and would thus be out of abilities whenever I chose to use my last double vote after that.

y

Well,I'm sure you don't believe me, but I can't use my double vote today. I'll prove it:

Double Incant: VP Baltar

There, next vote count will reflect that I'm telling the truth about using my other (A) ability today.

y

twice per game I can double vote.

[Nachomamma8]

MY DREAM TRIPLE PURGE:

Jazz, Porkens, VP.

Not only is that a good group to hit scum, but it also kills all chances for scum doublevoters screwing the town over in the end. Plus, I'm damn sure that Spy and Gamma are town, so that would leave us with enough practically confirmed townies tomorrow.

[Nachomamma8]

(this is what Nacho said except with letters)

I do believe I used the letter 'y' a number of times.

[Nachomamma8]

(Jazz, only one killing action can be used by the scumteam at a time).

And I THINK what she's trying to claim is that she has Sixth Sense, used it on someone and saw that they targeted MO, and that she doesn't believe that the killer was protown, etc. etc.

If that's the case, she should just give us a full claim in less words than we're using now, and her and the person she supposedly investigated should crossvote and burn in hell together (which shouldn't be a problem because I don't think a single one of us have called Jazz town). I expect she's taking her dear time because she's trying to think who would be a good person for her to fake-investigate, and she's also treading carefully because she wants to make sure that one of us has Third Eye and has investigated her already before she claims; otherwise, all her careful plotting will have been for naught.

Jazz, y/n?

[Nachomamma8]

Why 2 instead of three? And why me and Jazzy?

[Nachomamma8]

You've called both me and VP town at one point, but also thought it would be a good idea to purge us?

Lesse... When people didn't listen to my Porkens talk, I offered someone else. SpyreX and VP are stronger town reads than you, and Gamma's dissolution thingy moved you to the bottom.

When Porkens talk swung around again and I realized scumVP could screw us over in the end, I formed a DREAM triple purge. That doesn't actually mean the offer to purge myself is gone...

Day 1 was not a good day for me either, in case you didn't notice.

[Nachomamma8]

So VP and Porkens purge is more to eliminate the double voting threat?

VP is, it's a part of that for Porkens.

[Nachomamma8]

I never got to have my 3-way with Porkens and Jazz...