Mini 950: DCI Mafia (The Results Are In...)
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Slaxx Jack of All Trades
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First of all, hello Nacho, Parama, Nic, and Nik. Good to be playing with you guys again.
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1. 6 or 7 games here, a crapton of EM games.
2. I lurk a lot more as scum, but sometimes my real life gets in the way too. So far my scum:town ratio has been really low, the only game I've been mafia in is Jekyll Mafia in the mini them games so feel free to check it out.
3. Since my playstyle is still developing, my meta is still changing. I don't have a set town meta.
4. It depends on who quicklynched them and what my read on them was. No two situations are necessarily the same. In general though, the quickhammer-er would fall under heavy suspicion of me and receive a Slaxx-interrogation the next day =).
5. Same. It could be a buss. Its just as suspicious IMO.
6. Reread and look for connections, of course. And bring them up and present them and judge reactions.-
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Slaxx Jack of All Trades
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Slaxx Jack of All Trades
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This thread can't die already.
Let's try to squeeze some discussion out of people.
Animorpherv, have you bothered to look up Nic's meta or ask some people in the forum (obviously many here have played with him before) if this is true about his meta? Why go straight to the vote? Don't pull the it was random card either, because you stated it wasn't.
Comment on Nacho's Refusal to A RQS: I have refused to answer RQS in the past as town. I'm not for sure why this is an FoS.
muh316, was that vote on Nic for a reason or just for a bigger bandwagon?
I hate the inconsistency between games and players. I'm in another game with an extremely scummy person who everyone says is town because of her META, but no matter how hard I push for her lynch no one bites. I don't get why its okay in that game to let her go but to vote someone in this one. -headesk-
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Slaxx Jack of All Trades
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They are both random. Analyzing those comments lead to WIFOM. I dont look at that stuff. I look at the bandwagons. Anyway we are drifting off into game play debate which is for a different forum. The point is, ive never questioned a random vote on me. I know its random. The fact that you did gives me unsettling feelings.-
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That is just the way Nacho plays. I have played with him before and he is pretty good at picking out mafia. He is a very striaghtforward player who isnt afraid to throw around his vote and use it to his advantage.
Kunk, you're arguments keep failing. Everything in this game is subjective. We have nothing thats concrete, especially day 1. The democracy, the town rather, decides on what is scummy. Right now that subjective democracy is leaning towards you.
Nacho's thought pattern is clear. He was using his vote as a means of pressuring people who haven't contributed or contributed in a while. He was satisfied with the answer and moved on to the next person. When I feel his vote is uncalled for or I start feeling he isnt contributing, then I will ask him why.-
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I see people trying to hop on a lets bash Parama verbal wagon. He tried to create discussion. It doesnt matter when it is. He tried to get things moving forward. If you've got a problem, vote for him. Otherwise just let it go and let his scum reads react. You guys have distracted the entire intent of his post. The only one who has really defended themselves is kunk.
Frankly I agree with Parama's FoSs, although not with the Nacho one.-
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Slaxx Jack of All Trades
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I'm coming to his defense because he has got the game moving again. Why did you not vote until I prompted you to do so in my post?
I am not parroting his reads, I agree with them. They follow a degree of logic. Would you rather me lie and make up some crap that I don't believe just to make myself look better? That's what scum do.-
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Slaxx Jack of All Trades
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Slaxx wrote:I see people trying to hop on a lets bash Parama verbal wagon. He tried to create discussion. It doesnt matter when it is. He tried to get things moving forward.If you've got a problem, vote for him.Otherwise just let it go and let his scum reads react. You guys have distracted the entire intent of his post. The only one who has really defended themselves is kunk.
Frankly I agree with Parama's FoSs, although not with the Nacho one.-
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So what was the sudden change in mindset between this:
and this:Parama, the game was dead because it was fucking Easter weekend. I don't expect people to take time from being with their families to play mafia.
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Vote: Parama
It would be really awesome if you could drop the egotistical arrogance. [/quote]
This discussion is NOT null and it is NOT a distraction. You have come under my suspicion (and vice versa). Where as I want to talk about it and sort through it, YOU just want to dismiss it as nothing. If you seriously FoS me, why do you want to drop our argument?
And what do you mean not caught up with the game? You've been posting consistently for the past few days.-
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Nic's town play is scummy. Go check out Invasion of Liten in the mini normals. We cant just policy lynch people in a closed setup like this. What if Nic is a PR? He could be a doctor or roleblocker and we're going to lynch him for a meta comment on the first page? No. I'm not. The reasoning behind that vote was not protown, it was foolish at best.-
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Honestly, Parama, I believe you would have called out Ani moreso than those first three scum reads. And the fact you dismissed his behavior as VI so early in the game. I don't like that at all. MY reads change just like yours did. I've never played MS with you, so I can't really call you out on Meta. However, from this game, I feel like you're being dodgy about the Ani wagon. And since Ani is my biggest scum read (I've played scum with him before, its pretty much like this) naturally someone who I feel is being dogy about his wagon will also be on my scumdar. Its not that you disagree with me, its more of the fact I feel you let him go too easy on your alls back and forth earlier in the middle of the game, you automatically dismissed him as VI, and you weren't really on me until I started FoSing you. Now you're pushing extremely hard for my lynch, calling me obv scum, before I even present my case.
And...That's not proof, but I'd be happy to hear your opinion on how it is.-
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I said I had a case on you, Parama. My thing with Ani was pretty much everyone else's: Active Lurking (He did that in the fire and Ice game where he was scum), the accent on the RQS, and the lack of scumhunting.
The fact you dismissed his behavior as VI gave me uneasy feelings because it seemed really early to make such decisions.
And yes, I do feel I'm being setup.-
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