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@Dram: No.
I was looking for answers to the questions I later asked. Sue me.Parama wrote:Why did you ask if you weren't looking for a defense?
Jesus, you give me like 5 HOURS (in which I'm busy doing stuff) to post. It's not like I've been lurking or anything.Parama wrote:You can give your own opinions too, which you don't seem to be doing right now - all you've posted since my vote are responses.
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POWERFULVOTE: Parama for seriously coming at me with that half-assed attempt at a case. If someone calls this OMGUS I will punch their cat, dog, fish, and/or mother.TOWN 0/0
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Scumhunting = town tellGammagooey wrote:Dear Karma: Your vote is stupid, no matter what you want or don't want people to call it. Way to vote one of the only people scumhunting.
"Scumhunting" using craplogic = not a town tell
Parama is "scumhunting" using craplogic.
Yes. Very much so, actually.Gamma wrote: Do you still care about what Button thinks of his earlier wagon?TOWN 0/0
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@Parama: Your original case on me was based on a misunderstanding. I told you that, and you should've unvoted.
But no, you had to push.
You posted this 5Parama wrote: Example: Why did you ask if you weren't looking for a defense? You can give your own opinions too, which you don't seem to be doing right now - all you've posted since my vote are responses.hoursafter I posted clarifying my question to TBM. At this point, I don't even know what you're calling me out for. It can't be lurking, since I wasn't doing that. I had already talked about why I asked the question.
You calling me "caught scum" after continually misunderstanding me and not even making any sort of tangible case is scummy, so I voted you. Maybe I overreacted. I can be a dick sometimes. You still have no tangible case against me. Make one.Parama wrote:You just went from mildly scummy to caught scum.TOWN 0/0
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@Parama: I'm seriously thinking you're confusing me with someone else.
Now Parama, we were on Page 2. There's not a whole lot to analyze. I want a reaction from TBM about his wagon. That's all. Calling me hypocritical for responding when not everyone is even posting is a huuuge stretch. My later responses, which you found hypocritical were:Yes but what you asked is hypocritical, which is the problem. This is exactly my point.
1. Clarifying your original misunderstanding of my question
2. Saying "I'm lazy." I am lazy, and I didn't have 5 minutes for a "quick analysis." Sorry.
...I've never directed any questions towards Gamma.Parama wrote:What does this mean? Considering you haven't asked any questions since the one directed towards Gamma, I have no clue what you're trying to say here.
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Whoops I totally meant to hit "Full Editor," not submit. Ignore the last part (tl;dr) of the previous post.
Anyways, let me continue.
No, my vote is not OMGUS. You presented a case based on a misunderstanding - that was that. I cleared it up. The issue should have been taken care of right then and you should have moved on. Calling me hypocritical for asking for analysis from TBM on PAGE FUCKING 2 is fucking scummy. Why don't you attack Andrius - all he's done is ask questions. Why don't you attack 3/4 of the players here for "not providing any analysis"?Parama wrote:Though you really did overreact to my point. And OMGUSed because of it. Yes, your vote is OMGUS. You didn't do anything to disprove my case and you haven't made any good points against me.TOWN 0/0
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Parama's points were NOT. GOOD. He calls my question hypocritical when it wasn't. He didn't give me a chance to do any analysis - it's not that it was Page 2 more than it is a short period of time during which I really did have some RL stuff going on, believe it or not. TBM never gave me a response. I was planning to analyze it, see if it looked scummy.SSBF wrote:Why your defense is crap: Parama made very good points against you and you basically dismissed them. I honestly hated that you said you were lazy (Not an excuse), used the "Don't call this post OMGUS!" excuse, which is very scummy. And as Parama pointed out, you overreact to stuff.
Parama says this himself, right here:
I thought asking TBM for a response on his wagon would generate info for the town. I agree, my "anything to say?" question was vague and useless. But asking him how he felt about the speed, the players on it, etc. is a good question.Parama wrote:Though I will say asking good questions generates info for the town...
And SSBF, I don't care if you hate that I'm lazy. I am. Get over yourself.
And those IoA posts were not IoA. 2/3 of them were fluff and one of them was a legitimate attempt to help out. If you're going to call fluff in the RVS scummy then I don't even know what to do. You're seriously misunderstanding the term.
However, I slept on it, and I realized my frustration with Parama makes this really feel like town on town. Parama's attacks are wrong and horribly misguided but he's trying, which I can't say for most of the town.
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@Gamma: Andrius, SSBF, quite possibly you. Empking is also useless but hasn't posted enough.
Parama, you haven't addressed my pre-Andriusvote post even after I reminded you of it. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it was a mistake, but you're ignoring my perfectly logical and correct defense. So read it and tell me that you've realized the error of your ways.TOWN 0/0
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Hey guys, we need to focus on the real scum here: Andrius.
But you were posting things about once a day - you weren't looking. During that time, un-RVS related things were happening that you could've, and should've commented on. Every part of your post where that quote comes from (god I miss post numbers) is fluff, IIoA, or useless meta reads.Andrius wrote:Ok wow. You're getting on me for participating in the RVS. RVS is a widely accepted way of starting out any mafia game.
And pardon me if I-heaven forbid!- answer the questions posed to me and- even worse!- try to laugh a bit in the game and have some fun.TOWN 0/0
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I'm following kmd's case, sure, but without people following others' cases, you get nowhere in mafia. I think his case is accurate and that you're scum. Where do you get the idea that I'm going to "wagon anyone?" I've only made 3 votes - one RVS vote, one on Parama, and one on you. The first two were not wagon votes, and the one on you doesn't even count as a wagon - it's only two votes.Andrius wrote:Karma wrote: Andrius, I think we're more suspicious of you because you've kind of been popping in and out, asking weak questions, but not contributing to the game and discussion.You think?
Either present a case on me that is original, or just say that you're following kmd's case because you're going to wagon anyone as long as they aren't you. You're just looking for a suitable wagon that is not on yourself.
And you're essentially doing the same thing. Following gamma/Parama's case on me. You hypocrite.
So you only play by meta? Why not analyze his posts if you want to make a read on him?Andrius wrote:
I can't give him a town read because I don't know what he's like as scum. He reminds me of Jack, whose play is aslo similar and yet very confusing.SSBF wrote: I'm also a little uncomfortable with ReaperCharlie. I'm getting a fairly scummy read on him, due to his lack of contents for the most part, however, I'm wondering if this is part of his play style, since people are giving him town reads.
So that's a null on RC.
Doesn't this show your lazinessAndrius wrote:
Whose "I'm lazy" was this?kmd wrote: Hmm. I just looked at the "I'm lazy" in context and I'm really not seeing that coming from scum.
You misunderstood what I said. There's someone who I'm fairly confident is scum (you) sitting aroundAndrius wrote:
I'm pretty sure there are 2 people voting me. That's hardly a "sizeable wagon".Karma wrote: Jesus, Gamma, you still care about that? That's soo 5 pages ago. Why would I care about the TBM wagon anymore when I think there's someone who I'm fairly confident is scum without a sizable wagon on him sitting around?withouta sizable wagon on him. In layman's terms, I want more votes on you.
This reads exactly like arrogant scum.Andrius wrote:
Because they think you're the better lynch.Karma wrote: I don't get why people aren't seeing the case on Andrius.
And only 2 players, yourself included, think I'm the best lynch for today.
But the biggest flaw I have with Andrius is that even when people call him out for it and he's prodded to do so repeatedly, he absolutely REFUSES to provide any content, any scumreads, anything. This post is just telling me to make an "original" case on him, followed by padding of useless meta-null reads, fluffy questions that could be answered with a quick re-read, and telling me that people think I'm scummy. A whole steaming pile of IIoA and STILL. NO. SCUMHUNTING.TOWN 0/0
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So, Andrius, no comment on my last post?
Your scumhunting efforts are crap. Let's look at your suspects, shall we?
RC: Someone who's acting scummy, obviously on purpose. You say he's acting out of character, when earlier, you said this:
Yeah. And your case on RC (your number one suspect) is still based entirely on meta, which is not something to build an entire case on. It can be supplementary, but that's about it.Andrius wrote:RC is acting like RC does.
Budja: Lurker. Not necessarily a scumtell, but lurkers make easy targets for scum to pick on when they don't want to actually try and scumhunt.
TBM: Andrius says he's active lurking, even though Buttons has 13 posts and Andrius has 14, with about 1/3 of them being fluff. So for him to call out Buttons for active lurking is again, quite hypocritical.
And then there's this, which is a great point.Gamma wrote:Andrius- Noooot really who I was expecting. So why aren't you voting...any of them?
Guys, deadline's in two days and we need to lynch Andrius ASAP. If you don't understand my case or don't agree with it, please tell me because just ignoring it is the wrong thing to do at this point.TOWN 0/0
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The thing is, I won't. Can you please trust me on this?
See, I realize that if Andrius flips town (which I really don't think he will), I'll come under some SERIOUS scrutiny tomorrow. I understand that. I'm willing to take that chance if you guys will just go with me and kmd and lynch Andrius today, and if he flips scum (which I really think he will) we can re-evaluate.TOWN 0/0
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Dear town,
I just wanted to say thanks for getting a very fucking powerful wizard NKd tomorrow.
I am the abjurer. I'm taking the loss of SpyreX very personally, cause I could have prevented it with my magical powerz. With no apprentices, I am a doctor, essentially. With one apprentice (which I have now) I am basically a jailkeeper. With more apprentices I become even more magical. I'll get into it if you want me to.
So yeah. You guys should probably vote Andrius right about now.
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