Mini 991 - POWERFUL WIZARD MAFIA (GAME)

[ReaperCharlie]

Psh, your pathetic

Content-O-Meter™

is worthless compared to my complete line of

WIFOMproducts®

! ...

[Karma]

Alright, I'm over the whole Parama vs. me thing - I can't change him. I'll just resign myself to the fact that he's dumbtown.

[Kmd4390]

Ya know,

CONTENT-O-METER

TM probably isn't a good idea to be doing for practically everyone in the game. I feel like it will get mostly ignored if it becomes a theme. Let me just give a rundown of quick mostly one-liner thoughts on everyone.

Empking- Meta says scum so far, but it's early, so hard to tell.
Parama- Actually looks town for once.
TheButtonmen-I wanted to say town until I looked at him in ISO just now. I think the early wagon got to me. Looks scummy in ISO.
Karma-Giving off massive towntells with almost every post.
Budja-I'm seeing town. Mostly because of the "mild gut town" reads.
Super Smash Bros. Fan-Posts seem carefully worded which is a playstyle that tends to throw me off. Seems to be my polar opposite as far as playstyles. Gonna be a tough cookie to read here.
Dramonic- Wow his ISO looks so bad. Prime candidate for a vig shot.
ReaperCharlie-Town. Meta.
Andrius-I think I've said enough here. DIESCUMDIE
MrSuave-See Dramonic.
Gammagooey-Obvtown
Kmd4390-Obvtown.

So this game can be separated into three groups. AWESOMETOWN, DIESCUM, USELESSLURKERDIEDIEDIE.

AWESOMETOWN:
Parama
Karma
Budja (Subject to change)
Reap
Gamma
Kmd

DIESCUM:
Emp
Smash Bros (Subject to change)
Andrius

USELESSLURKERDIEDIEDIE:
Dramonic
Suave
Button (Subject to change)

[Kmd4390]

Psh, your pathetic

Content-O-Meter™

is worthless compared to my complete line of

WIFOMproducts®

! ...

There's a wiki page for it?

Did you make that?

[Gammagooey]

PS goes first-Sorry about this being wallish, but it's important and quite probably the only wall I'm going to make for a while, so please bear with it.

Yesssssssssssssssss I finally got what I was waiting for and can explain why Karma is pretty much guaranteed scum at this point. (I'm fully expecting RC's daykill to be fake I just wanted to see if Karma would actually react if several people indicated that they thought he was dying)

Let's go over Karma's play shall we?

His first actually suspicious post-

So this is L-2. Buttonmen, anything to say?

Doesn't ask for a claim or any specific info, and when pressured gives a few questions to TBM after the fact, and proceeds to crazy overreact to Parama's vote on him. I don't see his "I'm lazy" as a towntell, especially as he was on just minutes before the question was asked and may have felt pressured to answer quickly because of it, with having "I'm lazy" being the best answer he could think of in a short amount of time.

The part I was waiting for-

Do you still care about what Button thinks of his earlier wagon?

Yes. Very much so, actually.

And yet immediately after TBM posts without

ever mentioning

his wagon, in his next post he not only completely ignores that TBM hasn't answered his earlier questions but doesn't even have him on his scumlist. This is because he doesn't actually care about the answers to his earlier questions, and made them up pretty much just to avoid suspicion and try to look like he's scumhunting.

BUT THAT'S NOT ALL.

No, my vote is not OMGUS. You presented a case based on a misunderstanding - that was that. I cleared it up. The issue should have been taken care of right then and you should have moved on. Calling me hypocritical for asking for analysis from TBM on PAGE FUCKING 2 is fucking scummy. Why don't you attack Andrius - all he's done is ask questions. Why don't you attack 3/4 of the players here for "not providing any analysis"?

In this quote, you see Karma only actually bringing up other suspects because he's being attacked. He had never brought up Andrius before, he hasn't said that Andrius was scummy before, he's just trying to make Parama's attack seem weaker and get rid of attention by pointing out "heeeeeey look there are other scummy guys why aren't you attacking theeeeem"

And Finally

However, I slept on it, and I realized my frustration with Parama makes this really feel like town on town. Parama's attacks are wrong and horribly misguided but he's trying, which I can't say for most of the town.
UNVOTE: Parama

Not only does Karma back off of his suspicion when it's repeated that his Parama suspicion is dumb, but in the post he doesn't say that he just thinks Parama is town now, He states

That his own interaction with another player is town on town

. There is no reason to do this except to put in a subtle "oh hey guys I'm town" into his read of Parama, which should not be a concern of an actual townie.


Once again, sorry about the wall, but Karma is scum. Thank you and good night.

[TheButtonmen]

Psh, your pathetic

Content-O-Meter™

is worthless compared to my complete line of

WIFOMproducts®

! ...

A) That's noise not content, B) You have too much free time and C) I'm still chuckling like 5 minutes later.

Alright, I'm over the whole Parama vs. me thing - I can't change him. I'll just resign myself to the fact that he's dumbtown.

His posting style may be an affront to elegance everywhere but he doesn't strike me as dumb. Also it seems to me that you made this post just for an excuse to call Parma town, which disturbs me seeing as you've already called him town three time, why the repition?

@MrSuave:

Gimmie your opinion on something.

Also ffs people it's 1:20 am why do you keep ninja posting me?

[Karma]

Didn't realize I've kept calling him town. But he is certainly a moron.

[TheButtonmen]

Helpful.

Care to share any non-Parama opinions?

[Karma]

@Gamma: So do you think kmd inserting his own name into the "awesometown" list is scummy?

[Karma]

@Buttons: Andrius is scummiest ATM.

[Gammagooey]

Karma-A tiny bit, but the OH SO SUBTLE way you did it yours is so much more scumtastic.

[Karma]

I see.

[dramonic]

I'm fairly busy, new job and all <<

[SpyreX]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 7

Andrius

- 2 - Kmd4390, Karma - (L-5)

Budja

- 1 - Super Smash Bros. Fan - (L-6)

Gammagooey

- 3 - Andrius, TheButtonmen, Empking - (L-4)

Karma

- 5 - Parama, Dramonic, Budja, Gammagooey, ReaperCharlie - (L-2)

TheButtonmen

- 1 - MrSuave - (L-6)

Players not voting:

None

[Karma]

@Dram: Your vote on me was cause I said I was lazy. Do you agree with Parama's/Gamma's case on me? Do you still feel I'm the right place to leave your vote?

[Andrius]

Andrius-dramonic usually plays like that from my experience, and I'm not actually sure if Kmd even got prodded considering we don't have a votecount yet for today.

k' thanks.

Andrius, you ask why you are one of my suspects.

ISO 0: Joke vote on Gamma.
ISO 1: Comment on Suave's avatar.
2: Response to Smash Bro's questions aimed at everyone
3: More Time Zone and Avatar talk.
4: Avatar related comment
5: Avatar talk, response to joke wagon on button, and vote count preference.
6: Asking about Reap's joke vote.
7: Response to contentless post, response to suspicion against you.

Ok wow. You're getting on me for participating in the RVS. RVS is a widely accepted way of starting out any mafia game.
And pardon me if I-heaven forbid!- answer the questions posed to me and- even worse!- try to laugh a bit in the game and have some fun.

I don't believe I was prodded. If I was, I didn't see it. I remembered the game because I was looking for another in Coney, saw this one, and went "oh crap".

GG asked for you to be prodded here:

@SpyreX-Mod: Can you give Kmd a prod to make sure he knows the game is open and started and everything?

I like the feeling of a nice warm Andrius wagon.

Its actually really cold over here; went around all day in a hoodie.

As per my wiki: I knew RC would come around at the smell of a good wagon. - Andrius

Time for that quote to come true, baby!

Vote: Andrius

I remember saying that! But it came true after I said it too, so its not the first time. *checks wiki*

Dramonic, you think Reap is scum WITH Karma after that shot?

Wait. You think Reap's shot was legit?
Especially after SpyreX posted a votecount after the shot was taken.
Odd.

Temp. Town read on SSBF. Playing like he did in the other game I know him from. RC is acting like RC does.

AWESOMETOWN:
Parama
Karma
Budja (Subject to change)
Reap
Gamma
Kmd

DIESCUM:
Emp
Smash Bros (Subject to change)
Andrius

USELESSLURKERDIEDIEDIE:
Dramonic
Suave
Button (Subject to change)

I was told that making these types of lists were anti-town, way back when I first began playing.

[Karma]

Andrius, I think we're more suspicious of you because you've kind of been popping in and out, asking weak questions, but not contributing to the game and discussion.

[Andrius]

Well, I try to post in all my games once a day, and that tends to be either in the morning or at night.
Today was different because I just replaced into a large game this morning, and had 58 pages to read up on. (To which RC can testify.)

[Parama]

Alright, I'm over the whole Parama vs. me thing - I can't change him. I'll just resign myself to the fact that he's dumbtown.

BAAAAW

You just don't want me to give more reasons why you're scum. I'm not dumb, I've caught scum!
(hey that rhymes cool)

KMD you should probably take Karma off your town list since he's not town.

[dramonic]

@Dram: Your vote on me was cause I said I was lazy. Do you agree with Parama's/Gamma's case on me? Do you still feel I'm the right place to leave your vote?

Oh definitely, apart from tunneling and being general anti-town, you're a bad source of content.[/hypocrisy]

[ReaperCharlie]

You just don't want me to give more reasons why you're scum. I'm not dumb, I've caught scum!
(hey that rhymes cool)

Ok definitely

Unvote; Vote: Parama

[Parama]

You're going to have to explain that one thank you very much

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

@Mod: Kmd is voting for Andrius.

I'm quite uncomfortable with an Andrius bandwagon. While Kmd did provide a decent case against him, I'm not really ready to switch votes over. Karma is a better suspect.

I'm also a little uncomfortable with ReaperCharlie. I'm getting a fairly scummy read on him, due to his lack of contents for the most part, however, I'm wondering if this is part of his play style, since people are giving him town reads.

And SSBF, I don't care if you hate that I'm lazy. I am. Get over yourself.

The point is that using "I'm lazy" as an excuse is not a defense in any sort.

And those IoA posts were not IoA. 2/3 of them were fluff and one of them was a legitimate attempt to help out. If you're going to call fluff in the RVS scummy then I don't even know what to do. You're seriously misunderstanding the term.

There were no analysis in either of those posts and they gave us nothing to work on. Yes I understand those intentions, but with the last post, you could have at least tried to give us something to work on. The things you were talking about are things the people may already know of.

So why is a vote reasoning inherently better than a town read? I'm not getting it.

A voting reason is better then a town read because a reason for voting gives us something to work on. Town reads does not always mean scum hunting. It's nice to have town reads, but those can be dangerous, as they could expose who scum should kill.

Both voting reason and town reads are risky in there own way, but there are more benefits for voting reasons then town reads.

This wagon makes me paranoid. Although it does make me feel a little better about Kmd just by comparison to the other people on it.

I agree that this isn't really that good of a bandwagon. Yes Kmd provided a decent case on Andrius, and as a result, I am slightly suspicious of him, but I'm not ready to throw down a vote yet.

[ReaperCharlie]

You're going to have to explain that one thank you very much

A terrible rhyme is more than worth a vote. If you disagree GTFO my POWERFUL WIZARD MAFIA.

[Empking]

Budja; Thoughts on Gamma?