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I, [recruit's name], do solemnly swear by [recruit's deity of choice] to uphold the Laws and Ordinances of the city of Ankh-Morpork, serve the public trust, and defend the subjects of His/Her [delete whichever is inappropriate] Majesty [name of reigning monarch] without fear, favour, or thought of personal safety; to pursue evil-doers and protect the innocent, laying down my life if necessary in the cause of said duty, so help me [aforesaid deity]. Gods Save the King/Queen [delete which is inappropriate].Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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Greetings Plum, Budja and Thor good to see you all agian.
Vote: FakeGod
The "Wait for me!" VOTE COUNT
jimfinn (2): Tasky, Plum
Plum (1): VasudeVa
Thor665 (1): KHG
VasudeVa (1): jimfinn
Tasky (1): Budja
FakeGod (1): TheButtonmen
Not Voting (5): Chronopie, Narsis, FakeGod, Mysterio, Thor665
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Truly they be some mad skillz.Plum wrote:That seems like such a canned scumtell that I am immediately satisfied with my RVS skillz.
I however am content with my RVS vote and may I add that the FakeGod wagon is spacious, luxurious and serves complimentary breakfasts?Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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Leading question is leading.Plum wrote:Yeah, but don't Townies also want to create pressure on players to try to figure out if they're scum or not, especially when there's no other information to analyze?Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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Leading question into seeming change of opinion makes me all sad.
jimfinn wrote:I would say that scum wants to increase the number of people on a wagon in order to create pressure on a player, in the hopes that they make an exploitable mistake, yet when that player flips town, they will note be blamed for the lynch. With seven to lynch, 3rd vote is not to blame, but starts the ball rolling (same could be said of 4th, I suppose).
Please explain how Thor being the third vote is major scum tell yet getting the ball rolling is a null tell.jimfinn wrote:EBWOPDTCOT: I would say that to get the ball rolling would be a reasonable thing for scum or town to say, and is thus a null-tell.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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Super sketchy.Mysterio wrote:Hi.
Also, my vote counts as two votes. @jimfinn YOU DUN GOOF'D
But I won't bring the hammer down with you at L-2.Vote: TheButtonmenWhy are you so eager to wagon jimfinn? Using the wiki doesn't tell me anything except that he might be a little new.
Your comment at jimfinn is that he goofed up which reads to me like you know his aligment (goof'd as opposed to scummy).
Secondly since you stated a wilingness to vote Jimfinn then said you found my attack on him suspicious as he is obvnewb, explain the dissonance there?Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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Mysterio wrote: Also, my vote counts as two votes. @jimfinn YOU DUN GOOF'D
But I won't bring the hammer down with you at L-2.Vote: TheButtonmen
Mysterio mind explaining?VOTE COUNT
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Mysterio wrote:
Careful. You're skirting pretty close to OMGUS.TheButtonmen wrote:Super sketchy.
Your comment at jimfinn is that he goofed up which reads to me like you know his aligment (goof'd as opposed to scummy).
Secondly since you stated a wilingness to vote Jimfinn then said you found my attack on him suspicious as he is obvnewb, explain the dissonance there?
I already explained where I felt Jimfinn displayed what I found to be a fair amount of cognative dissonance. Also mind quoting the multiple posts where I defended Thor?Mysterio wrote: I would like you to explain why you thought jimfinn was changing his opinion unreasonably? And also why you felt the need to make multiple posts defending Thor?
The mod isn't going to reveal your double voting power on the vote count?Mysterio wrote: Is this a serious question? Obviously, the mod isn't going to reveal my power in a vote count. Have you never played a game with someone who had a double vote?
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Ugh.
Why would you claim like that.....
Also this is twice now you have used "information and discussion that has taken place as a result of my claim should" as an excuse recklessly claim in an antitown manner.
Explain?Mysterio wrote:
How? At the very least, you should be suspicious of me.Narsis wrote:so you want to know my thoughts?well tbh i got nothing but nulls right now.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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@Mysterio:Twice now you have used "information and discussion that has taken place as a result of my claim should" as a reason for your claims, mind explaining what information you got from them and anaylising some of the relevant discussion?
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@Mystery:You already claimed to have gotten reactions / discussion.
Mysterio wrote:And I claimed as a way to give town some valuable information, but also to see what reactions I could pull from the other players. There is a special "catch" to my power, but I'll reveal it after I gauge a few more reactions.
Preview Ninja'ed by Plum, more to come after I read her post.Mysterio wrote: However, the information and discussion that has taken place as a result of my claim should be valuable to town.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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It needed to said and at the moment yes, I'm currently waiting for a few people to post.Tasky wrote:
I still want to hear that post you promised...TheButtonmen wrote:Preview Ninja'ed by Plum, more to come after I read her post.
is this all you can come up with?
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This vote now seems super weak as you just announced that its just for pressure and you wouldn't have voted him if he was in danger.VasudeVa wrote:What's wrong with making the most of my vote? Narsis isn't in any danger(yet.), and I'm curious what he has to say for himself with a gun to his head.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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@Everyone:Let's compare VasueVa statments about people!
VasudeVa wrote: Plum seems like Plumscum. She is very vocal about her dislike about rolling scum. When people get a role they don't like, they tend to lurk/post fluff which isexactlywhat she is doing. Plus I've seen her as scum before~
FoS: PlumVasudeVa wrote:
70% sure this guy's scum.KHG wrote:
I'd have to guess it was random (or semi-random), considering there was no night zero and no actions that could have taken place.VasudeVa wrote:Query: Do you have any idea why you were chosen for your power?
I'd like to hear Narsis' response before voting for him. I will UNVOTE: Mysterio for now.
Hi D2 lynch!
Now guess which he is voting!VasudeVa wrote:I was voting for you, and now Narsis, in order to gather information about your alignment.
If you answered the one with the most votes already on him rather then the people he called scum then you just won the grand prize!
This thread needs more VasudeVa votes.
The "Not much has changed since last page" VOTE COUNT
Mysterio (4): Tasky, Narsis, jimfinn, FakeGod
Narsis (4): Plum, Budja, VasudeVa, Thor665
jimfinn (1): Chronopie
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What does American beer and sex in a canoe have in common?jimfinn wrote:@Thor: I am under-21. Do I assume that American beer is weak? Also, grok is roughly equal to gather, correct?
Spoiler: Warning foul language.
Grok = In that context it means to understand, it's from Stranger in a Strange Land.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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@KHG:Why do you always assume they are talking about Narsis when they mention scum hunting and whats your main reason for disliking the Narsis wagon?Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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Vote: VV
For all the same reasons as yesterday and the recent role fishing.
Not really sure if I can call it rolefishing though, it's more a long the lines of role harpooning or perhaps role torpedoing.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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Mind backing that up with a quote?VasudeVa wrote: @Button: Why don't you adress my points before you actually jump on me and go 'OMG I FOUND A WIKI-SCUMTELL LOLX'.?Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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Huh?VasudeVa wrote: implying wagon accusation wiki tell
I love how you always attack me never my points, though yesterdays deflection was much classier.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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To me implies its a one day deal.molestargazer wrote:Commander Vimes has acquired DRUNKENNESS and will receive a power today.
This thread needs more VV votes.
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Chronopie (2): Narsis, Thor665
VasudeVa (2): TheButtonmen, FakeGod
Narsis (1): jimfinn
FakeGod (1): Budja
Not Voting (4): Chronopie, Plum, VasudeVa, Tasky
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V/LA until Friday night or Sat morning.
You mean, just today / tomorrow? -MLast edited by molestargazer on Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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@Thor:A) At the moment Chrono however right now my reads are very much D2 centric as I desperately need to reread D1, I've lost track of things while I was gone so I'll get back to you tomorrow with a final answer.
@VV:Do you think I am scum?
@Plum:In regards to FakeGod scum after ISOing him he appears to be acting quite towny however this could be a perspective problem as he's buddying up to my views on a lot of things.
@Thor / Plum:You both asked me about thoughts on FG so I'm being lazy and answering you both at once, I don't think he's scum, he's been playing in a very earnest and straight forward townie manner and though his recent posting in regards to the VV wagon really confuse me they actually make me more sure he is town.
One thing that I did notice during my read of today was:Narsis wrote:
if you are the antithesis of a good townie then what is the point of keeping you around? wouldn't it be better to kill you now then have you causing trouble later?Chronopie wrote:Just saying Rolefishing is a Scum tell, doesn't help. As afaict it isn't much of one.
I know that I'm probably the antithesis of a good townie. And I know that I tend to Rolefish (sometimes inadvertently), ALOT. Alignment independent. Null tell.
I'm not liking the contradiction here.Narsis wrote:
so in that case wouldn't it be better to find and lynch scum?FakeGod wrote:My conclusion at the end was: VV has done many anti-town things, but in order to do them he would have to be town.
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I say bullocks.
I flat out don't believe you.
A) Trying to erase your scumminess by saying you did it on purpose to draw out the scum is lulzbad defence.
B) How acting scummy makes scum vote you.
C) Why you didn't investigate either of the people voting you (me and FakeGod) but instead investigated Chrono the second his lynch became seemingly inevitable.
D) Explain why FakeGod is so obvscum it would be a waste of an investigation.
E) Explain why I'm not worth investigating.
F) What's the connection between drunkeness and Day Cop (Charisma and DV had a clear and obvious connection)?
I'm going to make a wild guess and say he's going to get a guilty and then expect us to treat him like confirmed town.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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Explain why I don't get lynched after FakeGod in the "If he's innocent" plan?VasudeVa wrote: I will be investigating Chronopie. I have already sent it. If he's innocent, we lynch FakeGod then Tasky. If he's scum, we lynch Chronopie then FakeGod.
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ButtonMen is my pick for the third scum.
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Can't decide if you going to bus or try to save him yet eh?VasudeVa wrote: C.) Oh that's easy. I haven't used it yet. I was bluffing so that people will unvote. HAH. Nice reaction btw.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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@VV:Explain how you purposefully acted scummy.
Yes you have put yourself in the bind of having to bus one of your buddies to make this gambit believable, I assume that's why your all your bluster about me being 100% scum you've never discussed investigating me.VasudeVa wrote:Also, why the fuck would I risk a 'scum gambit' like this at DAY TWO with absolutely no pressure on me? Of course, I'll put it out there that me and Chrono could be scumbuddies but I guess I'll have to catch scum today then, huh? I don't mind. I already caught you.
I'm not saying he isn't Vimes, I'm saying he is gambiting scum Vimes.Plum wrote:Look, TBM, I agree VV's play has been far from perfect, but unless we get a counterclaim I'm inclined to listen to VV and get some investigation results.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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Hurray for back tracking on areas I was attacking!VasudeVa wrote:Wait, Vimes could possibly be scum? I don't know that. . Hell, I'm not even sure why Drunkenness = Daycop.
How about you answer my question first? Gogogo Content Go!VasudeVa wrote:Something I'd like everyone to Answer:
If you were me, who'd you Daycop? Gogogo Content Go!
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So he's 100% obvscum not worth investigating because he voted you?VasudeVa wrote:
I just disliked that vote. When I started 'role-harpooning' I had the mindset that votes 2 and 3 on me are scumtells.TheButtonmen wrote: D) Explain why FakeGod is so obvscum it would be a waste of an investigation.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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Ignoring your utterly fail logic that's a big leap from;
ToVasudeVa wrote:It's a good lead.
Explain how him voting for you (be it a good lead or not) makes him obvscum not worth wasting an investigation on.VasudeVa wrote:FakeGod is obvscum. I do not even want to waste my investigation on him.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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Both.VasudeVa wrote:What the hell are you talking about? My #463 or #464?
Link?VasudeVa wrote:I'm loving all the EBWOPs btw. . It indicates panic, in which you admitted to in a recently finished 7 player game where you were scum.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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.....What?VasudeVa wrote:Uncooperative much? You really can't hide that one from me. Freaking = Panicking w/e. I do my research.
I'm going to quote that post here for everyone to see.
Explain to me what your trying to get at with this post cause I honestly don't understand.TheButtonmen wrote:Blurg, badly played.
I started freaking when my partner claimed cop the second he got voted D1.
Good shootin' Elli and here's another for the list of scum meta you wanted.
VasudeVa wrote: Lol Both!? #463 points to a post WAAAYYY before my claim. Your point is invalid.
You thought he was so obvscum that investigating him would have been a waste, surely it can't be that hard to make a case agianst him?VasudeVa wrote:Hold on, I'll contact my daytalking scumbuddies and get right back atcha.
Didn't you read his long wall of scum where he says I'm scum because I'm antitown or something like thatand then his recent posts wherein he proceeds to suck up to me?
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Once agian I'm going to be quoting the post VV linked for everyone.VasudeVa wrote:
I did.. T'is short and sweet. Just how I like 'em.You thought he was so obvscum that investigating him would have been a waste, surely it can't be that hard to make a case agianst him?
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Is there like, a tool somewhere here to ignore obvscum posts?FakeGod wrote:eh VV, it's cool if you don't believe me. But I was just being honest.
O well, Cheers.
I'm not even gonna investigate you, so shut it. We lynch you after I get my guilty. There is absolutely no town reason to make a large wall post for my lynch like that when you claim to have seen my breadcrumb.
Great case.
How many EBWOP's did I make in that game then?VasudeVa wrote:
EBWOPS indicate panic(or something else but hey, whatever. I can live with confirmation bias when I'm right.). You panicked in that game. You were scum in that game. Therefore, you are scum in this game.Explain to me what your trying to get at with this post cause I honestly don't understand.
I love how for all this flailing your doing.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
Then a week goes by and it goes untouched
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Link?VasudeVa wrote:You are nit-picking my words and choosing the most vague ones and then giving a bad interpretation.
Link?VasudeVa wrote:I'm generating a fuckload of content
FTFY, Your statment about how you were going to get a guilty before you even chose a target made me lol.VasudeVa wrote:catchingbussing scum
Aw does me not believing your fake claim make you sad?VasudeVa wrote:whatever you're doing is a horrible unprecedented tunnel on me.
Are you scum tempday-godfather or something?Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
Then a week goes by and it goes untouched
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Your Case (the one explaining why FG is so obvscum that investigating him is a laughable waste of a one shot):
First off I'm really digging how you know your getting a guilty before you even know who your investigating, secondly there is a town reason for making long winded some what weak attacks on you after seeing your bread crumb (to see how your respond, to give cover, to distract attention ect) and thirdly that's not a case.VasudeVa wrote: Is there like, a tool somewhere here to ignore obvscum posts?
I'm not even gonna investigate you, so shut it. We lynch you after I get my guilty. There is absolutely no town reason to make a large wall post for my lynch like that when you claim to have seen my breadcrumb.
Now please answer mine.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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No, I'm asking you to back what your saying up. That's not nit picking at all.VasudeVa wrote:
Also, don't you think by quoting specific parts of my explanations and then asking 'link?' it's nitpicking? I think you've answered your own question.
Since you apprently don't understand what I'm saying I'll be blunt.VasudeVa wrote:
In this statement, it seems like you believe my 'fake claim'. *snicker*FTFY, Your statment about how you were going to get a guilty before you even chose a target made me lol.
Please die.
Your scum.
Your trying to get confirmed(ish) as town by claiming Daycop and "proving" it.
You know you need to get a guilty for maximum effect and thus you refuse to investigate me or FakeGod (Your top scum reads) and instead are bussing a partner (hence premtivly knowing your going to get a guilty).
Now please answer my questions?Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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-shrug-Thor665 wrote: I'm really conflicted on TBM, I understand his doubts, I don't understand being so intense about a player who just claimed Day Cop.
When I see something that to me seems super scummy start trying to lead town I start playing a lot more aggressively in an attempt to show the rest of the town the issues I see before their way of thinking is changed.
In this case I wanted to stop anyone from treating him as confirmed town for what seems like blatant bussing.
Shocking.VasudeVa wrote:Guilty result. Speed lynch, nao.
Unvote; Vote: TraskyRoutine day with a dirt cheap brush
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