Mini 1023 - City Watch Mafia - Game Over!

[Narsis]

Nevermind that a claimed JK protected me and there was no kill today?

Please vote for yourself so we can speedlynch you faster.

i'm sorta with TBM in the fact that i dont completely trust Chrono's claim.

There is a no kill. Do you think scum would do that sort of gambit? Without daytalk to boot?

It's easy to take care of Chrono. We lynch him 1 day before MyLo/LyLo. Right now, we trust him.

you are right. i highly doubt that that scum would pull a gambit like that. however, i have seen scum pull a similar gambit and it lead to an easy scum win for the exact same reasons you are saying that Chrono must be town.

VOTE COUNT

TheButtonmen (4): VasudeVa, Narsis, Budja, Chronopie
FakeGod (1): Thor665
Budja (1): Plum

Not Voting (3): TheButtonmen, jimfinn, FakeGod

With 9 alive, 5 is needed to lynch.
Deadline is Friday 17th.

[VasudeVa]

Well, you didn't lynch him 1 day before MyLo/LyLo, so it's your fault you lost.

[Narsis]

Well, you didn't lynch him 1 day before MyLo/LyLo, so it's your fault you lost.

O.o who you talking too? cause i dont think we are in MYLO/LYLO...unless you know something i dont?

[VasudeVa]

I was talking about your game in #625 where you are talking about gambiting fakeclaiming scum.

The play for fakeclaiming scum is to lynch them 1 day before MyLo/LyLo.

[jimfinn]

Having reread page 25, I'm getting a very scummy vibe from the interaction of VV and TBM. TBM seems to be beating a dead horse way too much over the Vimes claim issue, and acts like flailing scum. I am prepared to hammer, but will not do so until the end of Plum's V/LA in order to allow her to post regarding all that has happened in her absence.

[Narsis]

I was talking about your game in #625 where you are talking about gambiting fakeclaiming scum.

The play for fakeclaiming scum is to lynch them 1 day before MyLo/LyLo.

O.o actually i wasnt talking about that game... it was a game offsite.

[TheButtonmen]

Having reread page 25, I'm getting a very scummy vibe from the interaction of VV and TBM. TBM seems to be beating a dead horse way too much over the Vimes claim issue, and acts like flailing scum. I am prepared to hammer, but will not do so until the end of Plum's V/LA in order to allow her to post regarding all that has happened in her absence.

Stop being lazy town, don't reread one page.

Explain why you find the interaction scummy don't just go along with the majority and call the whole thing scummy and if your so sure I'm scum start looking for connections between me and other players. You've been sitting back on the sidelines all game and just going with the majority, time to step up.

[Thor665]

^^^
Whether he's scum or town this is good basic play advice Button just supplied jimfinn.

@jimfinn - what are your thoughts on FakeGod?
@Narsis - what are your thoughts on FakeGod?

I still put Button into my cloud of top suspects but must agree that he's correct in noting the singular focus on him thus far today - clearly I am either missing the brilliance of the case, in which case I'd like someone who is not VV to describe it to me...or perhaps we are tunneling and at least one or two players should at least acknowledge that I appear to want to lynch FakeGod instead of obvscumButton.

[VasudeVa]

Huh. jimfinn is the third scum member. Well that was an easy game. Thanks for playing~

@Thor: Don't you at least find TBM's reaction to my claim suspect? I think you said you did.

[Thor665]

I do, and I do believe I said as much at the time he initially did it and at the start of today. I'm just hung up on the "VV has just breadcrumbed Vimes - I'll try to make him look scummy by trying to lynch him in order to protect him" plan.

The best I can say in support of FakeGod is that it's a pretty bad plan either way, but the blatant 180 to total VV support left a bad taste in my mouth. Button at least seems to have a more consistent narrative in his suspicions which leaves me wondering if it's poor play or scum play whereas I feel the suspicion flip tends to consign FG into the scum play category.

Might I ask why you're now clearing FG and consigning jimfinn? Yesterday you seemed pretty sure FG was the scumbuddy with Button, but now it's jimfinn.

[Thor665]

To put it another way as to why Button is staying at second tier with me - I think scumButton might have been a bit more conciliatory at some point. The "attitude" towards you rings honest to me.

[Narsis]

^^^
Whether he's scum or town this is good basic play advice Button just supplied jimfinn.

@jimfinn - what are your thoughts on FakeGod?
@Narsis - what are your thoughts on FakeGod?

I still put Button into my cloud of top suspects but must agree that he's correct in noting the singular focus on him thus far today - clearly I am either missing the brilliance of the case, in which case I'd like someone who is not VV to describe it to me...or perhaps we are tunneling and at least one or two players should at least acknowledge that I appear to want to lynch FakeGod instead of obvscumButton.

i find it unlikely that FakeGod would have pushed so hard on VV if he was town and had in fact caught the breadcrumb. in fact, i wonder if he even caught the breadcrumb at all. it's really easy to say you saw it after it's been revealed.

[Thor665]

@Narsis - Why do you think Button is more likely to be scum then Fake God?

[FakeGod]

V/LA for couple days

[Thor665]

Hiding and/or claiming to have a real life only makes me want to lynch you more!

[Narsis]

@Narsis - Why do you think Button is more likely to be scum then Fake God?

more likely then FakeGod? at this point i find them both scum, and not one really more then the other. i'd be willing to lynch either.

[Thor665]

more likely then FakeGod?

Exactly.

You're voting Button not FG, that shows a preference to lynch Button - why do you have that preference?

[Narsis]

i guess the only difference between the two in my mind is that a TBM lynch looks more likely.

[Budja]

Exams over!
I'll be posting later tonight.

[Thor665]

Good. More Budja is good.
More Plum would be good as well.
Wouldn't mind a bit more Button either, actually, I'm pretty sure he doesn't support the lynch on himself but he hasn't really been that proactive in advancing an agenda yet.

@Narsis - egads sir, egads. That's a pretty lame bit of reasoning. What do you see as the best evidence suggesting Button is scum?

[TheButtonmen]

@Thor:

My agenda is quite clear, Chrono and VV are the last scum. I can't really advance it at the moment as half the town has been absent and those present all think VV is conf town due to his weak arse claim.

[Thor665]

Why'd he choose to bus Tasky and not Chrono?

[TheButtonmen]

Chrono was here while Trasky wasn't.

[Budja]

Your VV vendetta is quite silly.

I chose Button over jimfinn after jim's Fakegod support (he doesn't strike me as a buser and FG is one of the biggest counter options to Button). Fairly weak but I see little difference between them in scum-level.
As I have already said jim + Button are the lynches I will support today. This is heavily due to elimination of one from or another and both their uselessness (jim sheeps, Button tunnels). Yeah, anti-town != scummy but I'm IMO the chance at least one is scum is quite high.

@Thor, both Button and FG have been anti-town/anti-scum. Any particular reason you support a FG lynch over Button?

[Thor665]

I'm just hung up on the "VV has just breadcrumbed Vimes - I'll try to make him look scummy by trying to lynch him in order to protect him" plan.

The best I can say in support of FakeGod is that it's a pretty bad plan either way, but the blatant 180 to total VV support left a bad taste in my mouth. Button at least seems to have a more consistent narrative in his suspicions which leaves me wondering if it's poor play or scum play whereas I feel the suspicion flip tends to consign FG into the scum play category.

To put it another way as to why Button is staying at second tier with me - I think scumButton might have been a bit more conciliatory at some point. The "attitude" towards [VV] rings honest to me.

@Budja - Kinda think I've already discussed that.