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Your leaving out the fact that it's you and your partnerCoron wrote:
You're just mad because I have already caught 2 scum.Nai wrote:Right... And FOS and a Vote on me. Fantastic.
Vote: Coronfor an obvious scum tactic of throwing suscpicion on people for an FOS and... Well, nothing.Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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It was a joke to follow your and HackerHucks exchange.
Dont worry, Im sure it was more of a "theres usualy 3, so why not now" sort of thing, as opposed to a slip up.
I would like to ask though, are your posts about you already finding 3 scum have any backing to it, or are you just trying to make us seem bad to get a town player lynched? If it's the first could you please explain instead of being stupid. K, thnx bai.Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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Huck, My thoughts on Con came from the fact that when in a rare occurance he would actually post in this game, he would ignore everything that was going on and post something of absolutely no content.
Ie. "this is for the bump"
I got a lurking in plain sight feal from him.Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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(my opinion)
Or it could be a pro town player who is a little annoyed at being labeled as scum for nothing at all by someone who seems so confident in what he is saying. And when someone apears confident enough to voice his opinions in that way, others may get convinced he is right.Coron wrote:Basically the idea is this: I threw out a completely oddball theory, acted sure of myself and saw how people reacted. Nai reacted EXACTLY like RUH ROH THIS GUY KNOWS SOMETHING BETTER GET RID OF HIM.
Therefore the town player could be just interested in shuting you up or setting you streight so a mistake is not made by the rest of the town.
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Norinel -> I just quickly scanned the rules and couldnt find an answer so I'll ask to make sure.
If the mafia makes a night kill, would the town loose the items that the victem started the night with and then could have passed? Or would the town loose whatever item(s) was passed to him that night?
bassically what is the order of the night actions?
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I was really voting Conflux, not CTD.
I was voting Conflux because he seemed to be willing to come by and say hi, but still contribute nothing. To me he seemed intent on trying to lurk his way through.
Now that CTD is here my vote can go. Assuming he posts more often.
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But because of Conflux I have to say I feal a little guarded about whatever CTD's role is.Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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HackerHuck wrote:So the cheer squad consists of me, Jules and Zindaras?
ShadowLurker - how do you know that Luna was just inactive and not lurking? The difference is intent and I cannot fathom how you would know Luna's intent.
Related Info, just for the record:
I just replaced Luna in another game that she had made 2 posts (I believe) in 11 pages, so her record would appear to indicate that she was more inactive than lurking.Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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The reason I stayed on Conflux was because he would visit ocasionally but when he did, he would not contribute anything. I dont think you could call him "clearly" inactive. And for the record when you joined I said that it wasnt you I had a problem with and I unvoted you.CrashTextDummie wrote:suspicious:
Nightfall - for being a fence-sitter while being comfortable parking his vote on a player who was clearly inactive rather than lurking. Also for seriously suggesting that conflux (and myself by association) was suspicious, while other no-shows didn't seem to bother him.
Nightfall wrote:I was really voting Conflux, not CTD.
I was voting Conflux because he seemed to be willing to come by and say hi, but still contribute nothing. To me he seemed intent on trying to lurk his way through.
Now that CTD is here my vote can go. Assuming he posts more often.
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Hey guys, finished exams now, but christmas stuff has taken up time too.
I've read what I missed and am ready to post some more.
I DONT think that the person who has the mouth should claim.
I DO however want to bring up an idea.
Some/most/? of us started the night with an artifact. It is my understanding that we were then given a chance to use the artifact and then pass it on. How would people feal about a mass semi claim on the artifacts that we all had at the start. Ie. We would all claim the NAME and ONLY the name of the artifact we had at the start of the previous night, before we had passed it on. That way if anyone does have the mouth, we would at the very least know where it was. Also if any of us end up under the effects of some unknown artifact, we should be able to confirm where it came from. This will also help us to analyze any passing patterns. I played in a game called ROLESWAP mafia were the town did this and it helped considerably. In that game, I was scum and I lost my two partners because someone noticed a trend in our records. One final advantage I can see of this would be that it will let people know where artifacts have been, but wont inform the mafia of where they currently are, so they wont be able to target certain artifacts for nightkills.
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Im not overly certain one way or the other regarding Jules right now. I will say that I am leaning more towards scum though. The main reasons for this being 1, how earlier on he seemed to push against Nai during his debate with Coron, which I wasn't wild about in the first place, but he also seemed pretty snippy about it at times. 2, He's claimed that although he doesnt know exactly what it was, he believes that there was something posted pre "wipe out" crash that would back up his thoughts more. While that is believable and reasonably possible, I get the impression that too much of his stance is based on that suspision.
The following quote has me worried to. Stewie mentioned that he couldnt find anything to suport this and neither can I.
To me this seem like he's trying to make us believe that it was his random vote that got the whole thing started, and that his votes were leading the discusion while really he was following alot of it.Jules wrote:When you look back, you will find that the Nai Coron debate did flow from my vote. Not solely my vote but that was one of the factors leading up to it. Before my vote, there was precious little. After my vote, Nai started saying stuff, as did others, which Coron latched on toOnce Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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Was this not an answer to that?
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The article MUST be passed on if used.Coron wrote:The question is not only whether he would get the artifact if he were scum, it was whether he would pass it on. It sort of WIFOMs but, there is a definate tangible advantage to scum from having this not circulate.Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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Sorry, New Year + New job + New Problems have really took a beating on me.
I will try hard to keep posting, but there will be / has been a decrease in the number I am able to make, and the time I am able to contribute.
One thing I have to comment on:
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I disagree.GreenLiquid wrote:If you're a vanilla townie, the fact that you started with an artifact IS your role. I'm not sure how hard that is to comprehend.
I also disagree with GL's comment here. It just means that you are a vanilla townie who is an item carrier. It is not the players powers, it is the items.Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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GL -> I was suspect of Jules, but the issue of the ear claim leads me to look at him in a more positive and town like light.
Beyond that, Coron was the only one that struck me as being pretty scummy, and he too has actually started to act more townlike imo in recent days. This could all be an attempt by a scum coron to link himself up with a town jules, but I dont have any real evidence of that yet.Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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But he's doing it rather well.Kelly Chen wrote: What kind of evidence would you be looking for?FOS: Nightfall
Coron seems more townlike lately because he's just arguing and defending himself against GL, and that looks on-topic and meaty. I doubt it's any challenge.Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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Nightfall - His early insistance to vote Conflux instead of commenting on current events at the time struck me as scummy, but it could have also been lazyness. He has an air of scummyness troughout most of his posts, but I have a feeling that I'm just paranoid when it comes to him. There's a minor contradiction between his posts 227 (in which he says that he feels a little guarded against me because of my predecessor) and 278 (in which he claims that he doesn't have a problem with me). And while you're asking me where I stand, how about you answer that same question yourself? Because I can't really tell.
- I kept on Conflux early on because I thought he was just avoiding having to contribute anything. As for Coron and Nai's debate I contributed what I thought I could at that point, and that my beliefs were more inline with Nai's than with Coron's.
- Because Conflux never really answered me, it left a little bit of a sour taste in my mouth when it comes to his role. I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, and you seem to be making good on it so far, but I'm still a little more on gaurd than ussual because of how conflux acted.
- As for where I stand, to be honest I'm really not sure. Since the start or Nai and Coron's arguement I was pretty sure that Coron and Jules were scum. Jule's claim however has made me rethink that, and made me willing to keep him around for now. The main reason I actually asked for your stance was because I myself am not completely sure of mine. I was kind of hoping I might be able to pick something up from what you post... Overall I think that I'd be the most satisfied with a Coron lynch.
@ Nai > One question, I've been debating whether or not to ask this, but do you have some type of restriction for today? Voting, post, or otherwise?Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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Zind, I've just been looking over some posts and I wanted to ask something...
You state that you are 99% sure that Kelly/Perfect is scum and 80% sure that Shadow is scum.
If we were to lynch either of them with the terms that if they came up town we would lynch you tommorrow, would you be willing to do that?Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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Its a one time use item though.... Or at least he claims....Apeiron wrote:I am not too sure whether I trust the not-transferring thing either. Especially if this is some kind of massive roleblock ability, which is pretty powerful.
I COULD see it being true... I'm just now sure how likely it would be....Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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I would guess it could be, but at the same time, just because it isn't doesn't make it scummy.Kelly Chen wrote:
Surely it could be passable without being multi-use.Nai wrote:I also don't see why you'd think a mass-role-block would be passable. If it was, either scum or town could put the other side into a complete standstill over and over, if the passes were done right.
I see the item as a "Get one night of safety" item. From what I can tell so far, like I think HH pointed out, scum need to come to our tent(?) to kill us. This item is a one shot "Doc protects everyone" - like item.Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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Vote: Hacker Huck
If you die, someone else out there at least still has the imunity item (if you are telling the truth. This could be huge for us if we choose to pass this player items that we want to keep protected.
I want whoever it is that has this item to claim that they have it. If it really does give them immunity at night then they dont need to fear the mafia. If we lynch huck and he comes up town, then he must be telling the truth and you will have no reason to fear being lynched by the rest of us.
P.S. Nate if you dont use your ability tonight, then I am voting you tommorrow. We need proof that you are town / that you at least are being truthful when it comes to your artifact, and we could greatly benefit from another night with our items.
Zind> Lurking as usual? excuse me? I post and comment whenever I can and there is something to be said.
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Asking the immunity artifact owner to use their item? Did I say that? Are you know claiming that the item isnt a passive artifact that blocks attacks on its owner?
I take kill to mean loosing a player through something during the nightphase, or by the hand of a day vig. While I consider the word death to be used to describe a player who died through a lynch. If the item was to be returned to you if a player was "killed" overnight, it would be hard to stomach the thought of the item also granting night immunity to the player. If the owner is immune to night kills why would there be a mention of where the item would go if the owner was killed.Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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Okay then, I still think our best play is to lynch HH. We dont loose his artifact, if he's town we know that one is out there giving someone night immunity, and as long as we dont lynch whoever is carrying it, it should stay around.
HH, from what you got from the items description, could the person that you passed your item to pass it on still in coming nights?Once Nightfall comes, everyone's dead...-
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I have something to say, but first I need three questions answered.
The person that had the ear - What did you ask it?
Shadow - Why did you ask about MM (Stewies Replacement?) when Jules already did that night 1?
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Why?ShadowLurker wrote: I did not do anything with the ear last night.
ShadowLurker wrote: I asked about MM because I forgot Jules had asked about it, MM was the 2nd scummiest in my opinion although pretty distant from Zindaras so I wanted to see if my read on him was accurate, and Jules had also received no answer if you remember.
1) So you forgot that Jules asked the ear about MM, but you remembered that he got no answer?
2) What did you take the fact that Jules didnt (theoretically) recieve an answer to mean?
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