Mafia 75: Return of the Mafia! TOWN WINS (really late)

Xtoxm · Post Post #1241 (isolation #0) » Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:11 am

Hey BM!

Hey all.

I absolutley must claim?

Well i'm a vanilla townie.

Anything to fill me in on?

Xtoxm · Post Post #1246 (isolation #1) » Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:19 am

Battle Mage wrote:see Xtoxm? I TRUST you.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1248 (isolation #2) » Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:23 am

Battle Mage wrote:do you trust me?

Ofcourse!

When have I ever doubted you?

Xtoxm · Post Post #1251 (isolation #3) » Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:06 pm

Battle Mage wrote:would you rather we vigged him and found out for ourselves?

BM

Xtoxm · Post Post #1253 (isolation #4) » Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:10 pm

farside22 wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:would you rather we vigged him and found out for ourselves?

BM

You know what would make me happy. If you can read through the game and give an assestment of who you think it scum and why.

Yeh I will do, if i'm still alive tomorrow.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1256 (isolation #5) » Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:11 pm

Battle Mage wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:would you rather we vigged him and found out for ourselves?

BM

whats that smiley for?
I was asking a sarcastic question to Peers, not making a suggestion...

Xtoxm · Post Post #1267 (isolation #6) » Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:25 am

I'd like to officialy add myself to Lloyd list.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1269 (isolation #7) » Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:29 am

Oh...When I said tomorrow I meant Day 2. I have no intention of doing so before then.

Btw - Why are we directing the vig?

I think the vig should make his own choice.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1272 (isolation #8) » Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:17 am

How sure are we that killa is scum?

Farside if you're vig why didn't you just wait to NK him at night if you knew him to be lying?

Xtoxm · Post Post #1275 (isolation #9) » Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:43 am

I have no reason to believe he is scum a have not looked at a single of his posts yet.

It was more of a joke seeing as the alternative is me.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1305 (isolation #10) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:54 am

Well I haven't seen the claim, but to my experience miller's seem to be pretty come in these big type games, i'm sure there'll be one here.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1308 (isolation #11) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:30 am

FOS those 2 trying to get rid of BM like that.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1341 (isolation #12) » Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:52 am

Well it's logical for any townie to want to be roleblocked cos they know it's a waste.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1342 (isolation #13) » Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:53 am

*not want

Xtoxm · Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:05 am

Thanks for not killing me...By looks of it with SK gone we have only the vig and the scum kill...I think probably scum tried to kill Farside and got protected.

I don't like all this lynching BM stuff...Think the ones pushing it are probably scum. Will attepmt to read through and post my opinions soon.

Xtoxm · Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:30 am

I said that because it was between me and Lloyd for Farside's NK.

Xtoxm · Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:09 pm

Oh, I get it now. Rosso claimed a cop who check's if someone's in the cult....I read it the wrong way lol.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1493 (isolation #17) » Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:17 am

Haven't been able to get on for a few days, just posting to let everyone know i'm limited access atm. Don't have time to read back anything right now.

Sorry.

Should be back to normal soon

Xtoxm · Post Post #1513 (isolation #18) » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:29 am

I don't get why RC would just out and claim Cult Cop like that if he wasn't telling the truth.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1515 (isolation #19) » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:31 am

To get rid of a miller?

Xtoxm · Post Post #1516 (isolation #20) » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:32 am

I got a Q - Cos you're a miller, isn't it possible you show up guilty to any Cop investigation - Well not for Naive, but you get what I mean?

Xtoxm · Post Post #1518 (isolation #21) » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:34 am

Hmm...If he's done it before, then i'm happy to

vote RC

.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1520 (isolation #22) » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:38 am

Battle Mage wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:I got a Q - Cos you're a miller, isn't it possible you show up guilty to any Cop investigation - Well not for Naive, but you get what I mean?
yes, that is how the role works.

BM

Right, thnx. Happy with lynching him.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1522 (isolation #23) » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:09 am

I think that means a replacement is still being sought, I rember from Tlp.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1527 (isolation #24) » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:40 am

WhoMe? wrote:And I will make this point now. I will not be claiming today regardless of what farside does or does not post.

I will also say again. Farside can kill whosoever he chooses. We should not be guiding him and ending up with multiple claims per day. This can only benefit scum in their NK's

I agree with that completely.

Xtoxm · Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:23 am

Welcome!

Xtoxm · Post Post #1570 (isolation #26) » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:13 am

curiouskarmadog wrote:wow, TS actually made me laugh....

And me..

Xtoxm · Post Post #1572 (isolation #27) » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:22 am

He replaced back in. I call lurker.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1596 (isolation #28) » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:03 pm

It's not the fact he said he went with alphabetical order for N0 that makes me think he's scum. N0 is random. But continution into N1 I don't like, among other things already stated.

I thought he'd be lynched by now...

Xtoxm · Post Post #1603 (isolation #29) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:22 am

I don't think scum would stay so adamantly away, alone, from such a big wagon...He's only person voting not voting for RC.

Whatever RC's role comes out to be I reckon TSPN is probably innocent.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1607 (isolation #30) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:39 am

Battle Mage wrote:Xtoxm, why do you think i am town here?

I think you are acting in a pro-town way.

have you ever heard of 'distancing from a BW'?

Yes. I've been acused of it falsely before.

Xtoxm · Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:47 pm

Battle Mage wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:Xtoxm, why do you think i am town here?
I think you are acting in a pro-town way.
thats pathetic. I want actual reasons. You aren't a drone. Show some flare.

Yeh, it kinda was lol...

Well...I find it hard to explain this stuff sometimes...

You are posting a hell of a lot, and making a lot of contirbtions, making sure other people contribute, and I think you're doing it in a pro-town way.

Xtoxm wrote:
have you ever heard of 'distancing from a BW'?
Yes. I've been acused of it falsely before.
and because of that you think it isn't a valid scumtell?

BM

Not necessarily, but in this case I don't think it is. I could be wrong. But I think he's probably town.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1652 (isolation #32) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:17 pm

Peers wrote:And RC is not dead yet... why?

I don't see why it's being dragged out either.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1653 (isolation #33) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:30 pm

Hmm...Just thought of an interesting question.

I had assumed delayed CR means that they can't recruit on N0, or maybe for a few nights to start...

Is it possible/more likely to mean the recruit goes the the night after it's submitted?

Xtoxm · Post Post #1655 (isolation #34) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:39 pm

I am generally against dragging out a day once a lynched has been decided...I don't think it's helpful...

What good came of it yesterday?

Xtoxm · Post Post #1656 (isolation #35) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:40 pm

You got a claim out of me...And somehting out of Lloyd...I think that dragging a day out after a lynch is decided is more helpful to scum, personally.

Xtoxm · Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:57 am

We shouldn't be trying to direct the vig.

Hammer plzplz.

Xtoxm · Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:02 am

killa seven wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:We shouldn't be trying to direct the vig.

Hammer plzplz.
no one had a prob of directing her yesterday.. just saying.

I made my stance against it clear yesterday also.

You probably wern't paying attention by the time I replaced.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1691 (isolation #38) » Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:31 pm

That's not what he said...You just avoided his point.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1692 (isolation #39) » Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:35 pm

[quote]Not Voting- 11 (andersonw, curiouskarmadog, farside22, Imat, KaleiÐoscøpe, killa seven, RossWilliam, Skitzer, thenextepisode, UnofficialRulerOfEveryone, VanDamien)[/quote]

So why are you guys opposed to this lynch?

Xtoxm · Post Post #1708 (isolation #40) » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:51 am

Benefits the scum more.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1712 (isolation #41) » Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:17 am

Scum would probably lie if told they were gonna be vigged, and might claim power. And if it's a good town role scum still found it out.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1714 (isolation #42) » Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:21 am

I disagree completely. But I guess Farside can announce targets if she wants.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1716 (isolation #43) » Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:22 am

Can't you jsut hide behind Farside? She's clearly getting doc protection. Cos no mafia kill last night.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1720 (isolation #44) » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:02 am

Bm is starting to look scumming. If he is a hider I see no reason why he needs to know who Farside wants to vig and why he can't jsut hide behind her.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1725 (isolation #45) » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:21 am

Yeh because miller hider is such a devastingly useful town role, the scum will come after you the second you say you aren't hiding on a night.

No you're not confirmed innocent if Rosso is town.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1726 (isolation #46) » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:22 am

I think the chance is something more like ~90% scum killed F, and doc saved.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1730 (isolation #47) » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:36 am

Altough...Now I think about it...It's possible they didn't go for...They did know it was either me or Lloyd, who I now know both to be town. Perhaps they were confident of being to lead her kills, and thought a doc might screw it up if they tried. But were I scum in that position I think i'd still like to off the claimed vig. But maybe lower the estimation to like 60/70% or so.

BM you ain't confirmed so stop saying it.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1732 (isolation #48) » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:42 am

BM - So why no NK. Until a few moments ago I had been assuming it was doc protection on farside...Made it pretty clear. But after a little thought there could be other possibilties, such as suggested RB. The chance that your potential being hidden was the cause is slim enough to be discarded. There is no reason (imo) to kill you, there are better power roles to fish in the dark for, and it was "agreed" essentially yesterday by a number of players that you were not survivng to the end game.

An RB is possible...He probably wouldn't have claimed because of chance of doc protect being the cause etc. So that's still there, but relativley low...And presumably, scum would have chosen their least suspected member to do the kill. So I reckon that's a pretty low chance.

No kill - That is nonesense imo, slim enough to be discarded.

Off the top of my head, other kill preventative reasons don't come to mind.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1733 (isolation #49) » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:45 am

WhoMe? wrote:
Xtoxm wrote: BM you ain't confirmed so stop saying it.
He is right in saying that if Roso comes up Cult Cop, then BM can't be Mafia, but he could be cult or miller. which <> confirmed town by a long chalk.

That's a good point. Hadn't thought of that. We'll cross that bridge when we come to it I guess, if Rosso turns up town.

I've jsut realised I see where BM is coming from. Unless this is some intircate plan to make BM look innocent, it looks like he's not mafia.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1736 (isolation #50) » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:54 am

Battle Mage wrote:
WhoMe? wrote:
Xtoxm wrote: BM you ain't confirmed so stop saying it.
He is right in saying that if Roso comes up Cult Cop, then BM can't be Mafia, but he could be cult or miller. which <> confirmed town by a long chalk.
hardly. we may not even have a cult. if we do, there is only 1. the odds of it being me are hardly great.

I'm still waiting for the 'correct' answer as to why there might not have been an NK last night.

BM

And what are we missing, O great one?

Xtoxm · Post Post #1738 (isolation #51) » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:59 am

Yeh, that's the hammer, finally

Xtoxm · Post Post #1739 (isolation #52) » Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:00 am

NK Immune role. Had that once. In a theme. Think it's pretty unlikely here.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1740 (isolation #53) » Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:02 am

Communter. Don't know how often they are used here, but I think it's pretty unlikely again. I reckon doc is the answer to that mystery.

Xtoxm · Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:07 am

Farside, how dare you kill me!!

Well, you can't get rid of me that easily.

Xtoxm · Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:22 am

There's a few people I seem to be in a lot of games with. Haven't actually noticed you so much...Perhaps you're quieter than other's.

Xtoxm · Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:42 pm

farside22 wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:Farside, how dare you kill me!!

Well, you can't get rid of me that easily.
I told you I wanted a player analysis and comments and I never got it. I felt suspicious because of the person you replaced. Who knew you were telling the truth.

I thought with how I played yesterday you'd have thought I was town...And you never asked for the analysis again and I really didn't wanna read through all the pages so I thought I could get away without it and you weren't bothered anymore.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1886 (isolation #57) » Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:03 am

Battle Mage wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
farside22 wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:Farside, how dare you kill me!!

Well, you can't get rid of me that easily.
I told you I wanted a player analysis and comments and I never got it. I felt suspicious because of the person you replaced. Who knew you were telling the truth.
I thought with how I played yesterday you'd have thought I was town...And you never asked for the analysis again and I really didn't wanna read through all the pages so I thought I could get away without it and you weren't bothered anymore.
erm dude, 1 post with game relevant comments i expect might be allowed to pass. But, you're dead and you are still discussing the game in a manner from which conclusions could be drawn. I politely suggest you refrain from posting here again.

Cheers,
BM

Skimmer!

I think what Whome said makes sense.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1889 (isolation #58) » Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:07 am

His only post is the bah post of his cop.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1891 (isolation #59) » Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:12 am

In the sense that you might be but you aren't allowed to know or in the sense it wasn't specified? You'd be useful for clearing people if you did.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1895 (isolation #60) » Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:55 am

Battle Mage wrote:In the sense that i dont recall it being in my role pm.

I don't like this response...You can check/ask for confirmation.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1901 (isolation #61) » Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:21 am

No - Lying is with intent. However, "not telling the truth" is still accurate, and it doesn't make much difference in mafia.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1917 (isolation #62) » Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:30 am

Peers wrote:
armlx wrote:This is not productive posting.
Oddly enough, neither was that.

And coming from me, that means something.

I believe pointing out that something wasn't productive can be productive.

I'm not sure I agree that said post was unproductive, though.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1919 (isolation #63) » Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:56 am

The following leads me to believe Peers is town:

Why is everyone so obsessed with directing the vig? The vig can be trusted to know what he's doing. They've obviously been reading the thread so far.

I think I was the only other one expressing this opinion yesterday, which I believe to be right...Sounds to be like a townie that's thought about it rather than just following everyone else and offering vig targets.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1939 (isolation #64) » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:45 am

TS, that's wrong - Townies have to trust people to be on their side, to win the game.

BM being found guilty by cult cop proves he isn't mafia.

You say you don't care about losing a townie just because he's a miller...I disagree. BM could be proven innocent from being cult here, which will be very useful.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1943 (isolation #65) » Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:25 am

Toaster Strudel wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:BM being found guilty by cult cop proves he isn't mafia.
Doesn't it mean he's culted?

Yeh he kinda claimed miller...

It proves that he's either the miller as he says, or he is cult, either way he's not mafia.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1944 (isolation #66) » Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:26 am

Drop the "the" before miller in that post.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1946 (isolation #67) » Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:28 am

You want to pass up the chance to prove a hider to be innocent, and lynch him today?

Xtoxm · Post Post #1948 (isolation #68) » Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:44 am

I'm not just a Miller. I'm a Miller cum Hider.
Each
night in order to protect myself, i can leave my house, and go stay with someone else, so if i am targetted by scum, i dont die, but if they target the guy im hiding with, then we both die. If I get Roleblocked, i wont be able to hide, and will probably die...

Xtoxm · Post Post #1949 (isolation #69) » Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:45 am

What difference does it make anyway if he could only hide on alternate nights?

He could still prove himself.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1951 (isolation #70) » Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:48 am

Toaster Strudel wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:What difference does it make anyway if he could only hide on alternate nights?

He could still prove himself.
Yes, but then on the alternate night, as a proven player, the mafia would then kill him, when he couldn't hide... That's why.

And that's why we should lynch him?

Xtoxm · Post Post #1967 (isolation #71) » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:17 am

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Proof enough for me

Unvote Vote: Battle Mage

[/quote]

Have you been paying attention to anything that's been going on??

vote Kal

Xtoxm · Post Post #1968 (isolation #72) » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:19 am

Toaster Strudel wrote:
TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:As stupid as vigging BM may be, that's what farside said she would do, which will confirm his role. Lynching BM is the dumbest thing we could do.
Argh!

What if the scum roleblocks farside because BM is scum and can't really hide, or even to cause mayhem?

Why on Earth are we wasting efforts confirming a freakin' miller!!!

Millers were created to be lynched. How a miller role ties in with a hider role is just too crazy for me to contemplate. Millers won't be nightkilled to begin with, why on Earth would they need to HIDE? They chances of blowing up are HIGHER if they do hide, than if they sit on their keisters being millers all night and staying home.

Why are we spending time on this? There are cops, masons, trackers, who knows, USEFUL roles that need to be confirmed/protected etc.

And sorry BM, but this so-called miller we wasting time on is BM, ilt's almost as bad as defending DrippingGoofball, I'm sorry, but BM is not Glork, know whadda mean?

He claims hider, this can be proven. Having a miller on top of this is irrelevent, if he's still around tomorrow, we knows he's town. It doesn't matter that he's a miller, we can confirm him.

It he's dead tomorrow, as some kind of scum - Scum is still dead. Whats the problem?

Xtoxm · Post Post #1970 (isolation #73) » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:36 am

What if the scum roleblocks farside because BM is scum and can't really hide, or even to cause mayhem?

Hadn't noticed this line...We know that if BM is scum, he is cult, nothing else. With the CL dying N0, and i've never heard of cult starting with something else than a killer and a recruiter...That really sounds stretching.

unvote vote TS

.

Don't like Kale's earlier comment either.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1973 (isolation #74) » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:43 am

Only townies can be culted, right? So if he's a hider he's clear of being cult.

Survivor's can't be recruited either...I guess there could be a miller survivor, i've see it once before (in a game I modded

), though not on this site. But even so, it doesn't matter if he's a survivor cos town still wins if he wins, and he's making a lot of good contributions.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1976 (isolation #75) » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:26 am

Well i've never played with him before, but I don't like the sound of a player who purposeley does nothing, as your "random stab in the dark" comment suggests...

Xtoxm · Post Post #1979 (isolation #76) » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:37 am

Aaah! So much text!

Xtoxm · Post Post #1980 (isolation #77) » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:38 am

Why would they do that? If anything, the mafia would RB me, to prevent me from hiding, and thus i would die regardless of my role.

I took that to mean cult having an RB. Which I think is ludicrous...

Xtoxm · Post Post #1984 (isolation #78) » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:45 am

Battle Mage wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
What if the scum roleblocks farside because BM is scum and can't really hide, or even to cause mayhem?
Hadn't noticed this line...We know that if BM is scum, he is cult, nothing else. With the CL dying N0, and i've never heard of cult starting with something else than a killer and a recruiter...That really sounds stretching.

unvote vote TS
.

Don't like Kale's earlier comment either.
imo, TS brings up a valid point, which could undermine vigging me tonight. With a Mafia GF dead, i could well see there being an RB aswell.

If you guys could please comment on my ultimatum to CKD, thatd be great. In the meantime, i guess we can go with a
Vote: TS

BM

That (if) when you are proven town, we lynch CKD. Well I don't think we should just blindly follow you, make our own opinion, but i'd probly be ok with that, you sound pretty confident of both being proven town and CKD being scum.

Xtoxm · Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:14 am

its impacting on your real life. Thats squirming, and its pretty sad you take the game that seriously...

That's a direct personal insult, please don't do this BM...

Note - CKD - This is not me trying to stick up for you, I am against that as a whole.

Xtoxm · Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:24 am

Hmm, fair enough, I guess...I'll have you guys up on rule 9!

Xtoxm · Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:30 am

Matt_S wrote:
BM wrote:If you guys could please comment on my ultimatum to CKD, thatd be great.
I'll keep your idea in mind for tomorrow, but deciding a lynch before the day begins is stupid.

Still waiting for Peers to do something protown.

You haven't commented on my reasons for believing him to be town - Why do you discard it?

Xtoxm · Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:15 am

Matt_S wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
Matt_S wrote:
BM wrote:If you guys could please comment on my ultimatum to CKD, thatd be great.
I'll keep your idea in mind for tomorrow, but deciding a lynch before the day begins is stupid.

Still waiting for Peers to do something protown.
You haven't commented on my reasons for believing him to be town - Why do you discard it?
Because in my opinion he has done too little for the town to make up for that. Besides, scum would also want as few people as possible to make informed vig choices. It looks to be a weak town tell, if that.

I disagree, I think it's advantagoues to scum to know hwere the kill's going...BM's case is an exception cause if he lives he's cleared. But generally, I don't think announcing targets is a good idea at all.

Xtoxm · Post Post #2032 (isolation #83) » Thu May 01, 2008 7:19 am

Seriously, would it be too much to ask for one of you to explain yourselves?

Yes. You need to defend yourself first.

1.) you are tested and hide, I have already agreed to be lynched tomorrow.

I don't agree with this...If you are town you shouldn't risk sacrificing yourself...And your point 5 on BM is an overstatement to say the least...

Xtoxm · Post Post #2033 (isolation #84) » Thu May 01, 2008 7:20 am

4.) You constantly are trying to direct the vig.

Yeh, but it's all the rage in this game, apparantly...

Xtoxm · Post Post #2036 (isolation #85) » Thu May 01, 2008 7:46 am

"If I am town, I shouldnt risk..." statement is silly...I am town, wanted to rid us of scum(cult)..BM proposed the wager, but you didnt call him on that?

It is different...I don't like the "If i'm wrong, lynch me tomorrow" thing. I've seen it a couple times before. I don't think it's a good attitude...You should accept you were wrong and work to get someone else lynched.

Xtoxm · Thu May 01, 2008 10:34 am

Matt_S wrote:
Peers wrote:
Matt_S wrote:You still didn't explain your vote.
Oh, I'm sorry, did I forget to give you something you could twist into using against me? My mistake. I forgot you needed people to give you rope to hang them with, and couldn't get any of your own.
It's generally customary to provide reasons why you're trying to get someone killed. Not giving reasons is about the most hurtful thing you can do for yourself.

So, what does everyone think about Peers?

I've said I think he's town. He's not looking like scum to me.

The quoted post by armlx sounds like "If BM is cult, he should be allowed to live because he killed the mafia" - I disagree with that.

Xtoxm · Thu May 01, 2008 10:41 am

Battle Mage wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
Seriously, would it be too much to ask for one of you to explain yourselves?
Yes. You need to defend yourself first.
Lawl. Xtoxm- Tough on scum. Tougher on townies who look like scum.

CKD wrote:
1.) you are tested and hide, I have already agreed to be lynched tomorrow.
I don't agree with this...If you are town you shouldn't risk sacrificing yourself...And your point 5 on BM is an overstatement to say the least...
again, i disagree with you Xtoxm. Ive wagered on someone being scum in several newbie games in the past. Admittedly theyve yet to pay off once, but if you're sure, it can make for a really persuasive arguments. If he DIDNT agree, we'd have had confirmation that he was BSing. He did what we forced him to do.

BM

He wasn't forced to. If someone I thought was scum proporsitioned me in that way i'd argue against it (although, I never have been). But now that he's got himself into it, I will hold him to it.

If he DIDNT agree, we'd have had confirmation that he was BSing.

What makes you say this?

Xtoxm · Thu May 01, 2008 10:46 am

You raise a good point here. What do I gain by being deemed 'confirmed'? apart from it shutting you and TS up ofc?
I'll be totally honest, i actually dont care whether im absolutely confirmed or not. If anything, i'd say its better if i stay semi-confirmed.

Because as a confirmed hider you can get yourself to endgame by hiding each night, probably, and it'd be very useful. Although it could start to get harder towards the end.

Why is it better you stay semi-confirmed? I love being confirmed.

Xtoxm · Thu May 01, 2008 10:53 am

Only thing I can think would be different is (probably) no-one would try to get you lynched.

Xtoxm · Post Post #2073 (isolation #90) » Fri May 02, 2008 4:52 am

More inclined to agree with BM on this, but I don't think any conclusions can be drawn from a replacement request, there are many reasons it could be. Stuggling scum is possible, but there are many others.

Xtoxm · Post Post #2074 (isolation #91) » Fri May 02, 2008 4:53 am

Battle Mage wrote:
WhoMe? wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
WhoMe? wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
armlx wrote:
Meh, testing BM now seems like a really bad idea to me. If he's a cult recruit killing people he is going to want to go for cross kills a bit, and the more I look at it the more I doubt scum would have killed animorph last night.
This post deserved putting in Bold, and being given a massive:

QFT
Are you serious? We shouldn't test you now, because if you are cult with a NK that is useful to town? Even if you do turn out to be some kind of tame scum we keep around for a while we need to know about it immediately. We might not be able to test you later.
Don't throw that rolleyes at me young man . If you just meant the other bits, then just quote/bold the other bits. If you quote the entire post in bold with a big QFT, then we have to assume you mean ALL the bits.

I mean the other bits.
Alright granddad. Keep your wig on.

You haven't addressed what Whome requested...

Xtoxm · Post Post #2075 (isolation #92) » Fri May 02, 2008 4:56 am

Xtoxm: Are you serious? (I honestly can't tell). There's nothing to defend myself against. They say I'm scum, I say I'm not. Ball's sort of in their court.

Lol, no I wasn't being serious. On the assumption that no reasoning was provided as you implied

Xtoxm · Post Post #2077 (isolation #93) » Fri May 02, 2008 5:10 am

Well, I read this as a request:

If you just meant the other bits, then just quote/bold the other bits. If you quote the entire post in bold with a big QFT, then we have to assume you mean ALL the bits.

Xtoxm · Post Post #2079 (isolation #94) » Fri May 02, 2008 5:15 am

Hmm, ok. I'll drop it then...I wasn't directly interested in your response to it, just why you hadn't.

Xtoxm · Post Post #2083 (isolation #95) » Fri May 02, 2008 6:56 am

I checked his isolation and didn't find him scummy...What about his play didn't you like?

Xtoxm · Post Post #2087 (isolation #96) » Fri May 02, 2008 8:41 am

TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:
armlx wrote: BM: That alone is reason enough to wait for a replacement.
That's true enough. No point rushing, even if we had reached a consensus on a vd lynch.

I disagree with that, if a concensus is reached you should just lynch the person, rather than hang around for nothing...

Xtoxm · Fri May 02, 2008 11:20 am

TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:Why not wait for a replacement claim? If the claim isn't compelling, we can still lynch.

Of course, this is all academic, since its not like a VD lynch is anywhere near consensus.

It was a general comment, not one specific to VD.

If a consensus is reach, I don't see the point in hanging around.

Xtoxm · Fri May 02, 2008 11:24 am

armlx wrote:xtoxm: Role claim != nothing in my universe. Where are you from?

England

Like I said, that wasn't specific to VD...It was general...Um, yeh...I hadn't actually considered the roleclaim...Lol...I guess I figured that would come before the concensus is reached.

I don't usually advocate lynches without roleclaims.

Xtoxm · Post Post #2104 (isolation #99) » Sat May 03, 2008 1:17 pm

armlx wrote:Deflecting is the act of trying to shift attention from yourself onto easy wagons.

In my experience, deflection is a null-tell. I'm often accused of it.

Xtoxm · Sat May 03, 2008 1:18 pm

*salutes flag*

We love you Xtoxm!

Yay!

I'm going to read through his posts now, and ill get back to you in a sec.

I call stalling!!

Xtoxm · Mon May 05, 2008 5:37 am

Toaster Strudel wrote:
armlx wrote:The point of the role Miller is to show up guilty to investigations. In general. Not just sane cops that detect mafia ones.
Yes! That's why we should gear our strategy around the survival of this precious role that cannot possibly backfire. I'm on board with the rest of you guys.

But that is irrelevent if he's telling the truth about the hider part, which can be cleared.

Xtoxm · Mon May 05, 2008 5:40 am

Toaster Strudel wrote:
Matt_S wrote:Is there any reason that a miller wouldn't turn up guilty to a cult cop? a.k.a., do you know of any games where a miller showed up innocent to a cult cop? Because common sense seems to support millers always giving out a guilty to sane cops.
I have never even seen a cult cop.

Anyway. You want to waste a vig kill confirming a miller/hider, gp ahead and have a ball, I'm holding my nose and giving you my blessing.

You imply that you think he's telling the truth...That's the opposite to what you've been arguing.

Xtoxm · Mon May 05, 2008 6:34 am

A cleared Hider is very useful, as he can prevent himself from being NKed.

As I keep saying, the miller part is irrelevent there.

Xtoxm · Mon May 05, 2008 10:43 am

Matt_S was asking for thoughts on peers. I gave my thoughts on peers, which is that he's been a lurker, but not the scummiest lurker, and I wasn't interested in pursuing lurker lynches anyway when there are better candidates. Therefore, I was uninterested in pursuing peers.

Actually, I don't think he's lurking as such. I think he's jsut not so active. I've played with him before and his post frequency was roughly the same as here.

Xtoxm · Mon May 05, 2008 10:44 am

Matt_S wrote:TS, stop distracting me with your scumminess. Peers is the one who must die, not you. You can die tomorrow. I'd bet a nickel that you're scum, but I've got a quarter on Peers already.

Why do you want Peers to die?

Xtoxm · Mon May 05, 2008 10:47 am

Matt_S wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
Matt_S wrote:TS, stop distracting me with your scumminess. Peers is the one who must die, not you. You can die tomorrow. I'd bet a nickel that you're scum, but I've got a quarter on Peers already.
Why do you want Peers to die?
Because I think he's scum?

Lol...I gather that...

Xtoxm · Mon May 05, 2008 10:57 am

Ok...I'm not really thinking he's scum atm, i've said why I think he's town.

Xtoxm · Mon May 05, 2008 11:34 am

dahill1 wrote:*sigh* Imat's gonna get replaced. Oh well, I'll just wait for his replacement
in the meantime, i can see how TS could think BM is cult because Rosso was the cult cop, because honestly, i thought that at first too. but now it seems pretty obvious to me that the miller would show up guilty to everyone, so i think TS should drop the BM attacks. i agree that that is the kind of case against someone that scum can easily pounce on

That point was brought up ages ago...

Xtoxm · Mon May 05, 2008 9:59 pm

You're assuming that there was only one cop, and the logic also doesn't make much sense in the last part, since you're implying that you are also showing up guilty to cult cop investigations just because the cop died N0.

I agree with BM on this one...I doubt there is another cop in addition to normal cop and a cult cop. But, if there is one they are probably flawed, I would think...

Xtoxm · Tue May 06, 2008 5:11 am

Now you all can just STFU about it.

Um..What was that about...I was exactly pressing the matter...I accepted it...

Xtoxm · Wed May 07, 2008 9:10 pm

This post is just dense opportunism.

I wouldn't say so, I can remeber doing the same myself, because of the way you insisted you were clear without bothering to explain it to us.

It is in the interests of scum to avoid protown players being deemed 'confirmed'. Xtoxm has seen me exhibit this in spectacular fashion recently.

Lol

Does this mean you do want to be confirmed now? You said earlier it was bad for you to be confirmed.

Anyway, admittedly, the case isnt as strong as i thought, and i think there may be a better play for today.

I'd agree here. I've had it before when I thought someone was really scummy and a reread of them puts them in a better light.

No, shouldn't there normally be more than one cop in a game this size? I might be wrong, but that's what I thought.

Well, with 2 cops dead I wouldn't really expect to see any more. Although admittedly, i've not played that many games this big.

heh sorry armlx
i know i'm usually better than this

Agree that I don't like this post much.

@Pie - Vig is pretty much completely confirmed...

How millers would interact with Rosso's role is very much up for debate.

Well BM said he'd been guilty to both, and that's kinda what i'd expect from a miller.

Yeah, thats about where I am. I just don't feel its strong enough to lynch or waste a vig kill on him right now.

I disagree, confirming someone town isn't a waste.

I dont really understand what you are getting at here though. What part of me being confirmed 'Non-Mafia' is baseless, when clearly i must either be Cult or Town.

Yes, which is useful, but elimating the cult part there would be even more useful.

Xtoxm · Thu May 08, 2008 9:12 am

Again, you are right, but in a way i feel inclined to disagree. Obviously there is some benefit to me being MORE confirmed in theory, but in practice, i think it will make f-all difference.

Ah - I've finally seen what the stance on this is about. That it's not worth spending a town NK on confirming you town.

You know, it's helps if you explain stuff sometimes, rather than just saying that you don't want to be confirmed.

I guess confirming you would be meaningless if the remaining cult dies before mafia.

(Unless i'm missing something) You think that's liekly?

Xtoxm · Thu May 08, 2008 9:37 am

Battle Mage wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
Again, you are right, but in a way i feel inclined to disagree. Obviously there is some benefit to me being MORE confirmed in theory, but in practice, i think it will make f-all difference.
Ah - I've finally seen what the stance on this is about. That it's not worth spending a town NK on confirming you town.

You know, it's helps if you explain stuff sometimes, rather than just saying that you don't want to be confirmed.

I guess confirming you would be meaningless if the remaining cult dies before mafia.

(Unless i'm missing something) You think that's liekly?
yeh, thats assuming we even have a cult members remaining.

BM

Yeh, but it looks very likely there's a cult killer, with the poison, by the sounds of it.

Didn't like skitzer's post there.

Xtoxm · Thu May 08, 2008 9:41 am

I just really hate people like you who dont really participate.

QFT

There's no point lynching BM, this discussion's been had.

I don't see much point regurgitating it, just go read the thread...

Xtoxm · Thu May 08, 2008 9:45 am

Battle Mage wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
Again, you are right, but in a way i feel inclined to disagree. Obviously there is some benefit to me being MORE confirmed in theory, but in practice, i think it will make f-all difference.
Ah - I've finally seen what the stance on this is about. That it's not worth spending a town NK on confirming you town.

You know, it's helps if you explain stuff sometimes, rather than just saying that you don't want to be confirmed.

I guess confirming you would be meaningless if the remaining cult dies before mafia.

(Unless i'm missing something) You think that's liekly?
yeh, thats assuming we even have a cult members remaining.

BM
Yeh, but it looks very likely there's a cult killer, with the poison, by the sounds of it.

Didn't like skitzer's post there.
Me neither. Shall we bandwagon him?

I'll give Surye and Pie a ring. They can help us put a bit of pressure on him, so he doesnt hide away and lurk.

BM

Lol.

I'd be happy going for skitzer too.

Xtoxm · Thu May 08, 2008 9:48 am

unvote vote skitzer

TS shouldn't be forgotten about though, she pushed for the exact same thing, basically, pages back.

Xtoxm · Thu May 08, 2008 9:50 am

skitzer wrote:Yes, but there is still that dreadful possibility that you are cult, and as long as that possibility remains...well, your the main suspect for that.

Poison did not show up until last night. Poison, which is likely a delayed method of death, would fit well with the delayed cult. Therefore, it is a very good possibilty that the cult member is still cult, and as BM being an experienced player, it is likely that the cult recruiter may have chosen him.

Yes, we have had this discussion. But not discussing it anymore doesn't make the cult member go away. It's not that simple.

So, you have seen the discussion, and still want to lynch BM.

He can be confirmed.

You sound a lot like TS.

Xtoxm · Thu May 08, 2008 10:03 am

I'm not sure about the recruitability level of a miller, but power roles are usually unrecruitable, I see no reason for that to differ here. So the hider part can render the miller part obsolete. Assuming you tell the truth.

Xtoxm · Thu May 08, 2008 10:05 am

Xtoxm wrote:I'm not sure about the recruitability level of a miller, but power roles are usually unrecruitable, I see no reason for that to differ here. So the hider part can render the miller part obsolete. Assuming you tell the truth.

Was expecting this to be a bit closer to the relevent post...

Xtoxm · Thu May 08, 2008 10:06 am

Battle Mage wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:I'm not sure about the recruitability level of a miller, but power roles are usually unrecruitable, I see no reason for that to differ here. So the hider part can render the miller part obsolete. Assuming you tell the truth.
Xtoxm, would
I
lie to
you
?

Xtoxm · Thu May 08, 2008 10:06 am

skitzer wrote:ckd: everyone has been wrong. But sometimes, you are right. Maybe it is a smarter idea to "test" him tonight.

Unvote
[sarcasm]you gotta love me, I'm as swingy as 70s disco revival![/sarcasm]

Well, now I will focus my attention on Lloyd and VanDamien.

Um..Isn't Lloyd kinda dead...

Xtoxm · Thu May 08, 2008 10:08 am

Fyi, i still want to see your responses to my questions. Your retraction of your vote does not mean you did not accuse me once, and i want to hear your evidence. Doing a PBPA of me should be great fun.

Heh, liked that one.

Xtoxm · Thu May 08, 2008 10:10 am

Battle Mage wrote:
skitzer wrote:Shoot, I forgot to answer your question, BM.

I don't need much to find you cult-y, it's basically all summed in your odd claim, Rosso Carne's role and investigations, and the stuff I mentioned earlier about poisoning.
so, there isnt much of a case then. In fact, you dont find my PLAY scummy atall? You just suspect me because of WIFOM type things, that are beyond my control, like my role, Rosso's stupidity, and the behaviour of the CR.

BM

Your odd claim is the main basis of my doubt for you, but I can see the feasability of a such role being present. Having you confirmed would be nice.

Xtoxm · Thu May 08, 2008 10:12 am

Battle Mage wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
Fyi, i still want to see your responses to my questions. Your retraction of your vote does not mean you did not accuse me once, and i want to hear your evidence. Doing a PBPA of me should be great fun.
Heh, liked that one.
<3 Xtoxm. Flattery gets you everywhere. Unless you are scum.

BM

Lol.

Wasn't trying to flatter you, genuinely liked it. Got an actual laugh, so "lol" didn't suffice.

Xtoxm · Thu May 08, 2008 10:13 am

Battle Mage wrote:
curiouskarmadog wrote:
skitzer wrote:ckd: everyone has been wrong. But sometimes, you are right. Maybe it is a smarter idea to "test" him tonight.

that isnt up to you and me..that is up to farside.
this is true. Dont worry, i'll be sure that she is briefed before we go to night.

Also, lets keep posting rapidly. My post count is SOARING.

BM

I am so going to catch you. Totally.

Xtoxm · Thu May 08, 2008 10:15 am

Battle Mage wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
skitzer wrote:Shoot, I forgot to answer your question, BM.

I don't need much to find you cult-y, it's basically all summed in your odd claim, Rosso Carne's role and investigations, and the stuff I mentioned earlier about poisoning.
so, there isnt much of a case then. In fact, you dont find my PLAY scummy atall? You just suspect me because of WIFOM type things, that are beyond my control, like my role, Rosso's stupidity, and the behaviour of the CR.

BM
Your odd claim is the main basis of my doubt for you, but I can see the feasability of a such role being present. Having you confirmed would be nice.
Well only Farside can do that.

BM

Yeh I know.

It's her decision, ultimately.

But there are other people i'd want to focus on first.

Seeing as you are confirmed non-mafia and all.

Xtoxm · Thu May 08, 2008 10:17 am

Battle Mage wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
curiouskarmadog wrote:
skitzer wrote:ckd: everyone has been wrong. But sometimes, you are right. Maybe it is a smarter idea to "test" him tonight.

that isnt up to you and me..that is up to farside.
this is true. Dont worry, i'll be sure that she is briefed before we go to night.

Also, lets keep posting rapidly. My post count is SOARING.

BM
I am so going to catch you. Totally.
eh? now im lost.
lol

I was refering to the post count part

Xtoxm · Thu May 08, 2008 10:20 am

Battle Mage wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
curiouskarmadog wrote:
skitzer wrote:ckd: everyone has been wrong. But sometimes, you are right. Maybe it is a smarter idea to "test" him tonight.

that isnt up to you and me..that is up to farside.
this is true. Dont worry, i'll be sure that she is briefed before we go to night.

Also, lets keep posting rapidly. My post count is SOARING.

BM
I am so going to catch you. Totally.
eh? now im lost.
lol
I was refering to the post count part
I bet i'll overtake MoS, before you get into the top 5.
Actually i dont think i have the highest post per day rate anymore. I was about 0.2 ppd away when i last checked. Hopefully this should move me back into poll position.

BM

You prolly will...But my ppd is higher than yours! Mwah!

Xtoxm · Thu May 08, 2008 10:45 am

Matt_S wrote:I disapprove of the skitzer wagon. I approve of the Peers wagon.

I've gathered you approve of Peers

Why do you not like skitzer wagon?

Xtoxm · Sun May 11, 2008 12:06 am

I kind of despise LurkerLynching with a fiery passion.

You could say i'm the opposite

Xtoxm · Sun May 11, 2008 12:07 am

armlx wrote:Armlx's 3 step plan for dealing with lurkers:
Step 1: Get the mod to prod them.
Step 2: Respond depending on how they post when they show up with votes or not.
Step 3: If no response, replace. Return to step 2.

Now with 100% default lynches!

Just saying BM, this is much more effective.

But this doesn't always work though. I wouldn't say it's so effective.

Xtoxm · Mon May 12, 2008 10:18 am

Holy living fuck this game moves quickly.

Getting too quick for me now

Xtoxm · Mon May 12, 2008 10:22 am

Battle Mage wrote:
armlx wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:umm, i get the math. still dont really understand what you're getting at, tbh.
My point is I feel there are going to be too many claims to sort through in not enough time for a mass claim to be beneficial at this point in time. if the recruit dies without farside dying I could go for it though.
it bugs me that you are so sure we have a recruit...

BM

I think it's better to assume from a town point of view that we have one, but we don't need to worry about it till other scum is dead. Don't know whta that's in context too, haven't the time right now to read it.

On the subject, I reckon it's there's a seperate cult killer, but can't every night, not the recruit has gained this poisoning ability...

Xtoxm · Thu May 15, 2008 9:45 am

Also, i'd like to declare myself Officially AGAINST a TS lynch today.

Disagree with this...Found her scummy and would still be happy with her lynch...

Yay, 100 pages..Lol.

I'm not seeing Whome as scum. I've found myself quite likeing most of what he's been saying.

Xtoxm · Fri May 16, 2008 5:39 am

Battle Mage wrote:
armlx wrote:
dahill1 wrote:
Matt_S wrote:Dahill1 presents a very convincing argument...
i should take that out of context and sig it
No, then you would be BM. He has a monopoly on that.
woah woah woah. I dont sig things out of context (at least, i cant recall doing so). Whats with the anti-BM ness permeating some people atm??
Is it because i've been a bit lurky here? If so, i'm sorry, and i WILL try to post more from now on.

BM

It's a mix of the lurking and the sucking at maths.

Sorry, I had to

Xtoxm · Fri May 16, 2008 5:58 am

Battle Mage wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
armlx wrote:
dahill1 wrote:
Matt_S wrote:Dahill1 presents a very convincing argument...
i should take that out of context and sig it
No, then you would be BM. He has a monopoly on that.
woah woah woah. I dont sig things out of context (at least, i cant recall doing so). Whats with the anti-BM ness permeating some people atm??
Is it because i've been a bit lurky here? If so, i'm sorry, and i WILL try to post more from now on.

BM
It's a mix of the lurking and the sucking at maths.

Sorry, I had to
ooh, referring to ongoing games? I could have you modkilled for that!

Wtf? How is that refering to ongoing games?!

Xtoxm · Fri May 16, 2008 5:59 am

armlx wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
armlx wrote:The issue is my read on xtoxm is pretty much null either way right now, so another player's input would be good as there's probably something I missed that sways him on way or the other.
in that case, you leave him for now, if nothing dramatically points either way.

BM
Like I said, just asking in case I missed something. If anyone else has comments I would be interested as well, but I thought you might have the best read on him out of everyone.

He's totally town.

Xtoxm · Fri May 16, 2008 6:21 am

Battle Mage wrote:
armlx wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
armlx wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
armlx wrote:The issue is my read on xtoxm is pretty much null either way right now, so another player's input would be good as there's probably something I missed that sways him on way or the other.
in that case, you leave him for now, if nothing dramatically points either way.

BM
Like I said, just asking in case I missed something. If anyone else has comments I would be interested as well, but I thought you might have the best read on him out of everyone.
He's totally town.
You don't count.
the only reason he doesnt count is because if he tried, people would see how shite at maths he is!

OWNED. lol

That's

really

bad, lol.

I was not in any way refering to an ongoing game. It's possible I made a similar comment in a currently ongoing game, but if I did, the two incidents were completely unrelated.

You are the one referencing ongoing games by bringing it up. I could have you modkilled for that.

Xtoxm · Fri May 16, 2008 6:40 am

Battle Mage wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
armlx wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
armlx wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
armlx wrote:The issue is my read on xtoxm is pretty much null either way right now, so another player's input would be good as there's probably something I missed that sways him on way or the other.
in that case, you leave him for now, if nothing dramatically points either way.

BM
Like I said, just asking in case I missed something. If anyone else has comments I would be interested as well, but I thought you might have the best read on him out of everyone.
He's totally town.
You don't count.
the only reason he doesnt count is because if he tried, people would see how shite at maths he is!

OWNED. lol
That's
really
bad, lol.

I was not in any way refering to an ongoing game. It's possible I made a similar comment in a currently ongoing game, but if I did, the two incidents were completely unrelated.

You are the one referencing ongoing games by bringing it up. I could have you modkilled for that.
If pointing out a rule breach results in a similar rule breach, the consequences of said rule breach should be significantly reduced due to the motive of the second, which the first lacks.
And yes, you are well aware that you made the comment in another game. Otherwise you wouldnt have said it here, because it wouldnt have been funny, or even made sense. I was joking about the modkill, but i dont see why you are so jumpy about it, let alone why you are so keen to LIE?

BM

I know you were joking about the modkill, so was I, apparantly it didn't come across...

Xtoxm · Fri May 16, 2008 2:23 pm

Ive played a fair few games with Xtoxm, but never seen him as scum.

And i've never seen you as town...

Xtoxm · Fri May 16, 2008 2:28 pm

skitzer wrote:
TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:
skitzer wrote: I think I've used the last lines of the above post before when I was scum. It feels like TSN is trying to say, "Yes, of course dahill is my scum buddy, but let's lead the town to a mislynch and vote Toaster Strudel! Of course, I could be very wrong.
So, you aren't certain that my uncertainty about dahill is a scumtell or not?

Obviously me, dahill, and skitzer are all scum.
What? This makes no sense. Is this somehow a joke? Because I'm not scum.

That was quite obviously a joke...

Xtoxm · Fri May 16, 2008 2:36 pm

armlx wrote:Less joke, more sarcasm.

Ok..Think you're being a bit pedantic there lol...

Xtoxm · Fri May 16, 2008 2:41 pm

I'm not really sure what you mean by that in this context, tbh.

With a little help of from google defintions, you probably mean:

"lacking depth of intellect or knowledge; concerned only with what is obvious; "shallow people"; "his arguments seemed shallow and tedious""

Are you being shallow? Lol.

Xtoxm · Fri May 16, 2008 2:46 pm

armlx wrote:Its a line from Family Guy. Peter wins a rigged game of Trivial Pursuit and starts to act aloof.

"I find this meatloaf rather shallow and pedantic."

Ahhh right. Yeh I rember that. I love Family Guy

I've act seen that ep like twice. Didn't ring a bell with that though.

Xtoxm · Sun May 18, 2008 12:19 pm

I don't agree. And found TS scummy, and still do. She's now been lurking for 2 weeks. I would be happy with a TS lynch.

Xtoxm · Mon May 19, 2008 11:26 am

mnowax wrote:
armlx wrote:Loser Mafia is not a good sample size. Just saying.

Simply put, DGB is one of the most random players on MS. She does lots of randomly, somewhat logically based things, and enough of them seem to work out. An equal amount also don't.
there is one so random that you never know who they are. and his name is MNOWAX.

i think we should go for the strudel lynch, only to get the day over with. i agree with BM, plus there isn't much more going on right now.

You should be voting someone because you think they are scum not to end the day...Don't like that.

Xtoxm · Mon May 19, 2008 11:31 am

Mod, please prod BM.

He's lurking again, he hasn't posted for over 9 hours.

Xtoxm · Tue May 20, 2008 12:54 am

Battle Mage wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
mnowax wrote:
armlx wrote:Loser Mafia is not a good sample size. Just saying.

Simply put, DGB is one of the most random players on MS. She does lots of randomly, somewhat logically based things, and enough of them seem to work out. An equal amount also don't.
there is one so random that you never know who they are. and his name is MNOWAX.

i think we should go for the strudel lynch, only to get the day over with. i agree with BM, plus there isn't much more going on right now.
You should be voting someone because you think they are scum not to end the day...Don't like that.
Well duh...

Yeh sorry bout the absence, i didnt have time to post last night before i went to sleep.
In future, i'll post in V/LA, ok?

BM

That would be great. It's only polite to let us know before going on extended leave.

Xtoxm · Tue May 20, 2008 11:31 am

killa seven wrote:
vote dahill

Lurking and bandwagoning on a lynch declared by BM?

Xtoxm · Wed May 21, 2008 12:38 pm

Battle Mage wrote:Ok, Dahill is at -2 if Armlx's count is right. I'll be here to drop the hammer tomorrow. DO NOT HAMMER BEFORE I GET THE CHANCE TO POST.
If you do, you will join my Black List, and i'll make it my sole ambition to see you hang.

Thanks,
BM

Ohh you're just asking for it.

Xtoxm · Thu May 22, 2008 8:31 am

Battle Mage wrote:
curiouskarmadog wrote:so what does 100% mean then?
qft. I never use 100% in games. Anything can happen in mafia, and if you say 100% you look like a liar as well as an idiot.

BM

I say it sometimes

Xtoxm · Thu May 22, 2008 8:48 am

TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:I am 100 percent sure this day needs to end.

Nonesense. This day has been only 37 pages thus far. Day one was 54 pages.

Xtoxm · Fri May 23, 2008 11:54 am

Battle Mage wrote:
dahill1 wrote:woooo
come on guys my goal is at least 10 more pages
You really expect us to think you are town when you declare your only goal as survival??

Oh and btw, if Dahill isn't dead by Tuesday, I support mass modkills of inactives. Inactives being defined as people not currently voting for Dahill.

BM

So you're inactive.

Xtoxm · Fri May 23, 2008 11:50 pm

unvote vote dahill

Xtoxm · Sat May 24, 2008 7:33 am

I don't have a clue what you 2 are on about...

Xtoxm · Sat May 24, 2008 7:37 am

armlx wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:I don't have a clue what you 2 are on about...
You wouldn't. Probably a good thing too.

What's that supposed to mean?

Xtoxm · Sat May 24, 2008 7:41 am

armlx wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
armlx wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:I don't have a clue what you 2 are on about...
You wouldn't. Probably a good thing too.
What's that supposed to mean?
Precisely what I said.

Are you insulting me?

Xtoxm · Sat May 24, 2008 7:45 am

It's not funny

Xtoxm · Sat May 24, 2008 8:02 am

I fail to see how BM is hinting at anything.

Xtoxm · Sat May 24, 2008 8:06 am

Seeing as half the town seem to "know", care to share...?

Xtoxm · Sat May 24, 2008 8:19 am

It doesn't matter who he hides behind, does it? Not if he's targetted. Thats what I thiought/think.

Xtoxm · Sun May 25, 2008 3:31 am

Is Farside supposed to find a subtle/hidden message in your peom that the rest of us aren't?

Xtoxm · Sun May 25, 2008 5:00 am

Definatley looks like you're jsut trying to buy time.

If you are a hider being targetted doesn't bother you...

Xtoxm · Sun May 25, 2008 5:04 am

Why?

Because you don't have that power?

What are you trying to pull?

Xtoxm · Sun May 25, 2008 5:39 am

Battle Mage wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:Why?

Because you don't have that power?

What are you trying to pull?
1 word.

Shu-up. -.-

Xtoxm · Sun May 25, 2008 5:44 am

I don't think so.

Xtoxm · Sun May 25, 2008 5:54 am

We have a bank holiday on monday.

Xtoxm · Sun May 25, 2008 5:59 am

Battle Mage wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:We have a bank holiday on monday.
If we didnt, the bankers would be joining the postal service, the police, fire fighters, the health service, and ministers, in going on strike. Our economy has enough problems with Brown in charge...

Lol, you pay attention to politics? Is was like 2 or 3 weeks after he took over that I first found out about it

Xtoxm · Sun May 25, 2008 6:00 am

armlx wrote:Obviously, but I'm pretty sure Britain has had its fair share of wars too.

Yeh, we have a minute of silence on Nov 11.

Xtoxm · Sun May 25, 2008 7:20 am

No ks, it's a forum.

Pretty close there, though.

Xtoxm · Mon May 26, 2008 1:03 am

killa seven wrote:i couldnt tell with u 3 chattin like school girls about stupid shit

There are a few subtle differences between the two, i'm sure you'll learn!

Xtoxm · Sat May 31, 2008 4:08 am

I don't recall finding TSN particularly scummy.

I don't like how kale's been acting.

vote Kale

Xtoxm · Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:00 pm

So I guess this is what you call lurking. I'm trying to avoid needing replacement in most of my more active games...