Normal 222: Black Versus White Mafia (Endgame)
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
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- Posts: 1011
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- Location: Once Upon A Time In...Hollywood
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
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- Posts: 1011
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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I’m also the most consistent scum player on site where I’m known for having everything line up perfectly and never having anything that doesn’t add up, so that push is terrible too.
There’s also zero scum flipped in this game on whatever day this is we’re on, which means if I were scum, I would have an entire team able to make sure that all the tracks are covered, which proves your crap reasoning incorrect again.This right here’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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- Location: Once Upon A Time In...Hollywood
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
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- Posts: 1011
- Joined: July 29, 2019
- Location: Once Upon A Time In...Hollywood
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 1011
- Joined: July 29, 2019
- Location: Once Upon A Time In...Hollywood
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
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- Posts: 1011
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- Location: Once Upon A Time In...Hollywood
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
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In post 1434, Rick Dalton wrote:We can have Chickadee check me tonight if you want, and that checks both her and I.
Literally immediately after I brought up being able to be checked.In post 1438, PMysterious wrote:
Okay, what on Earth is this supposed to mean? Give the tracker "fake stuff"? If you had just said here that you aren't the Tracker and you were only doing this to get a reaction, then okay, I'd be off your case on this, but no, instead, you say this. The only way this is possible is that either you're a Ninja or an Ascetic. Both do not give results to the Tracker when they go visit someone, AKA, "fake stuff". But I think I can take this one step further.In post 1433, Rick Dalton wrote:What do you mean visiting scummy targets.
My role doesn’t do anything except give the trackerfake stuff.
The fact that you said this with confidence is rather worrying. And I like to point out another post that brings up Ascetics, and I want you to keep in mind the post number.In post 1049, Rick Dalton wrote:They have Ninja’s dude. There’s probably more trackers even.
This is the nail. This is the first time an Ascetic is mentioned, but even looking back, the first time a Ninja was mentioned was (get this) DAY 1! I'm not exaggerating, Day 1 is the first time Ninja's have been brought up, without even thinking of the possibility that Ascetics are in the game. Check below for proof.In post 1059, VaultDweller wrote:
Ding ding ding! We have a winner! I also happen to be ascetic. There is no way you could have tracked meIn post 1001, Rick Dalton wrote:I tracked Vault to Ethos. He’s telling the truth.
All of this leads to one conclusion. With how it was mentioned that Scum has a Ninja on the first day, the fact that this was said with confidence, and the recent post on giving the tracker "fake stuff", I can't see anything else other than this answer.In post 22, Rick Dalton wrote:I’m informed. Scum has a ninja.
Rick, you ARE the.Mafia Ninja
UNVOTE: Croag
VOTE: Rick Dawson
If you wish to counter this point, I implore you to try.This right here’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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I’m a visitor. It was a mix of “oh, I’ll get to it before the night, and not really caring who i target”.
So it was like subconsciously active of me not acting, but it probably looked like i forgot to send it in.
My role is literally there for false positives.This right here’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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All this makes anything you say irrelevant, tbh.In post 1483, PMysterious wrote:being Informed AND having another Power Role is a rather slippery slope. Keep in mind you initially claimed Tracker, which if we are to assume you are, being a Tracker that's informed of Ninjas is basically two investigative things at once.
Informed is usually with a PR, usually a lot more than just visitor.
Also, i had this claim before, and you pushed Fonz for pushing at me. This is a load of crap.
Something Smart here can confirm that I claim all the time like that as town, and he should be able to see I’m town at this point.This right here’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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In post 1483, PMysterious wrote:My problem is the fact that everything here is inconsistent,
Stop being surface level. This is what confirms me as town.
I’m the most consistent scum player on site.This right here’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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I backpedaled immediately after VD posted because it was a VD reaction test.In post 1474, Something_Smart wrote:So I gather that Boon claimed tracker who tracked someone who then claimed ascetic, causing him to backpedal into the visitor claim.
If he thought the claim would be taken seriously, then he's scum. If not, it's NAI.This right here’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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This is exactly what i’m saying.In post 1492, Something_Smart wrote:I don't think you could have reasonably expected that tracker claim to be believed, meaning it was just a dumb Boon gambit and not indicative of your alignment.
People are acting like it was a hard serious claim, when even you here say that it absolutely shouldn’t have been believed, and that’s the premise of it allThis right here’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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Night kill WIFOM.In post 1503, Something_Smart wrote:The question remains though, if you're informed of a ninja, you must have expected there to be a tracker? Why did you claim tracker knowing that the real one might CC?
Lapsa and I seemed to have the right rapportThis right here’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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To be fair, I thought it was obvious I wasn’t actually a tracker meaning I expected the real tracker to stay quiet, which Lapsa did.
Chickadee replaced in and didn’t have rapport.
Not that i knew Lapsa was Tracker or anything, but Lapsa had me as super high up town, meaning he knew that I was fake claiming for him.This right here’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
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- Posts: 1011
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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My Lapsa thing is actually kinda not relevant...:/In post 733, Rick Dalton wrote:I’m still informed, but I’m also an ungated tracker, which is dumb because there’s ninjas, so I’m uninspired.
I was out of this game earlier. Almost, you’ve rolled Visitor. You know how uninspiring it is.This right here’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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I didn’t know anything for sure.In post 1507, Rick Dalton wrote:Not that i knew Lapsa was Tracker or anything, but Lapsa had me as super high up town, meaning he knew that I was fake claiming for him.
Lapsa was already talking me up early game. I’ll find a post for itThis right here’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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This was super early, but we had a moment back then, and it kind of just stayed there.In post 148, Rick Dalton wrote:Lapsa, why am I town? I like it, don’t get me wrong
I didn’t know that he was the PR i was claiming for, though.
Something, just read the game, read me, and you’ll see I’m town.This right here’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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Also, people always come at me, but I feel that’s one of my strengths is being able to find high profile target/defendants as either alignment.
I don’t really know how to explain how I knew, because I didn’t for sure know, but I had a feeling and a connection with Lapsa in some way.
Kind of similar to how I catch you out when you’re scum. I just kinda knowThis right here’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
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- Posts: 1011
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
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- Posts: 1011
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
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- Posts: 1011
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
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- Posts: 1011
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
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- Posts: 1011
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
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- Posts: 1011
- Joined: July 29, 2019
- Location: Once Upon A Time In...Hollywood
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
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- Posts: 1011
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- Location: Once Upon A Time In...Hollywood
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
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- Posts: 1011
- Joined: July 29, 2019
- Location: Once Upon A Time In...Hollywood
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
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- Posts: 1011
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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- Posts: 1011
- Joined: July 29, 2019
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
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- Posts: 1011
- Joined: July 29, 2019
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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- Posts: 1011
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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- Posts: 1011
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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- Posts: 1011
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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- Posts: 1011
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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I don’t know at this point. Scum fake this ignorance when they try to push me a lot of times, but they could just be town who doesn’t get it.
I’m kind of out of this game right now, which is annoying because deadlines near.
Honestly, I’m a little afraid to push Fonz because I feel he’s protected by a scum fabricated cushion.
I think it’s just time for the next day.This right here’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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I think LUV’s pocketing me. I think A50’s cushioning. Fonz backing off of me a little is weird.
Mumble’s mia, Roster’s in need of replace.
Chickadee’s the only one I really trust right now.
Vorkuta kinda, but he could be pocketing me, but I’m on his side.
SS could be WK’ing me because Jonny was awkward with me, but then I started town reading Johnny as wel for a second.
Idk.This right here’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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- Posts: 1011
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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I got to here and then PM made the post she did right prior, and I was unhappy because I was totally on PM’s side for a moment.In post 1635, Something_Smart wrote:
Didn't Rick claim his information way before the tracker claimed?In post 1634, PMysterious wrote:Rick was never informed of Ninjas, he made it up to make the Tracker feel not as useful.
Chickadee kill was there to hard frame me, and the fact PM opened the day differently then used it to come back to me is scummy af.This right here’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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Everyone’s arguing all around and saying I’m scum for the exact same reasons why other people say I’m town for in a circle.
If I were scum and not a visitor, I could always have a visit with a scum factional kill, so that is completely flawed.
Also, everything anyone ever says is completely thrown out of the window because I claimed tracker and my informed claim before anyone claimed anything.This right here’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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To be fair, I did claim Disloyal Fruit Vendor who targeted you, a Loyal Fruit Vendor as scum once, so luck is on my side generally, but I also get super unlucky sometimes. It’s a blessing and a curse.In post 1654, Something_Smart wrote:
So he just got lucky that there was a tracker?In post 1650, PMysterious wrote:This is why I think there are no ninjas, and it was a bluff by Rick.This right here’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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This is a misrep and an incorrect timeline.In post 1656, PMysterious wrote:
He claimed Tracker Day 1, which alongside the Ninja information, would make sense. This would be crucial, as this prevented Rick from being accused of being Mafia. Note that he retracted his claim after Vault came out and said he was Ascetic. This was the time the mass claim came about. So if the Mafia were to learn of any investigative roles, that would be the moment. Since Rick retracted his claim, he no longer counter claimed the actual Tracker who came out, because of the mass claim. It was a stroke of luck, and the primary role the Mafia needed to target. A Vanilla Cop, they could leave that alive since all a Vanilla Cop does is prove if someone is a power role or not. A Tracker, however, would go against their plans, as there is no ninja for them to use for the kill.In post 1654, Something_Smart wrote:
So he just got lucky that there was a tracker?In post 1650, PMysterious wrote:This is why I think there are no ninjas, and it was a bluff by Rick.
That makes Chickadee the primary target for the night kill. I'm not saying Mumble didn't know this, but not using the 1-shot Bodyguard on Chickadee or even roster the night after the mass claim is suspicious. The defensive stance and the claim of the report on Almost50 only adds more to the claim that Mumble is scum.
This all happened before the mass claim, and was a main cause of the mass claim.
I also specifically made my comments and claim BECAUSE of VD, so yes, my retraction came after VD spoke, as it was a reaction test, I am THE reaction test player with proven results.This right here’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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PMysterious is indirectly saying I’m just super good, which technically, I actually like that last post made by him, he just has the wrong conclusion about it.
It’s the perfect kill to frame me. ScumMe would never put myself in a situation where I am forced to kill one and only one player, and one like Chickadee.
Chickadee was also the only person in this game who could probably be considered conftown, so your case and reasoning is accurate, it’s just an incorrect conclusion.This right here’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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@Vorkuta - you’re good at attacking me blindly and without reason and logic to dictate other options, what’s your take on PMysterious?
I’m slowly losing my town read on you, but mostly because I think it makes sense for your slot in the gamestate as a PMysterious partner rather than you being scummy.This right here’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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Mumble getting flustered and going down makes sense from PMysterious to try and move it back onto me, even though he was pushing Mumble as my partner.
So, PMyst, what do you think of this? Is he your partner and you suddenly gonna back away from him?This right here’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth
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Rick Dalton Mafia Scum
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Probably Scumble thought he was giving a partner a last distancing gift before leaving.In post 1661, Almost50 wrote:P.S. One of those "FU's" was directed at you. If you have no qualms with it, disregard iit, All the others were directed at me though, and O do have a problem with disrespectful foul language.This right here’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth
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