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Whoa, new avatar! I like it, though.
Unvote: Gayle. Vote: Haylen.I counterclaim Llama tracker monkey mason day vig with a pinch of double voter, my special abilities are being able to change into a super saint reviver with the ability to lick all of the llama in the game.ALMOST ALWAYS BUSY 9-6 CST WEEKDAYS-
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@ Bogre: Why so serious? Didn't you see the joke in my first vote?
By the way, Haylen's obvscum. I mean, look at her new avatar. How could you possibly lynch that face?
On a more serious note, I'll parrot KMD and ask Neto why he voted Maemuki when he hates random voting.ALMOST ALWAYS BUSY 9-6 CST WEEKDAYS-
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Haylen, I have to disagree with you on this one. RQS, in my mind, is used to determine the responses of people to the questions asked of them. I've used it myself as town, so it isn't always scum-driven.
In other news,Unvote: Haylen. Vote: Netlava.Something about his post just rubbed me the wrong way...just kidding. My beef with Net is that he voted Maemuki for a very vague reason and for apologizing (obviously a nulltell). Feels opportunistic.ALMOST ALWAYS BUSY 9-6 CST WEEKDAYS-
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@ Kmd: Why not elaborate on your town reads? I have to say, I'm getting a little worried about you. I don't really see the point in most of the points against Neto (except maybe the random-voting despite disliking it), and your reason for making Mae a sure scum read isn't a good one.
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Whoa, I leave for a couple of hours and we shoot up to page seven. Ok, let's see what I've got.
- Neto's argument against me regarding content is crap. A good portion of my posts were in the random vote stage, and I had to leave for a chess meet right as things started to get serious. Also, this game has gone on for only around 5 1/2 hours. Cut me some slack.
- Netopalis needs to start posting additional content. The theory arguments have been done to death. Let's see something new. Arguing suspicion of me is one way to do it, but how about some other guys?
- Netlava has an obsession with Mae. Town stalker, perhaps? Lack of content other than Mae-related when there was plenty else to comment on is suspicious.
- Kmd's reads are for laughs. If you're going to say they're solid reads, man, at least try to stick with them for awhile.
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This. Why don't you want to be pinned to anything, Annachie?Bogre wrote:
The cautious scum is cautious.Annachie wrote: It doesn't. I would ask you for something you can be pinned too to some degree incase Mae flips. Probably why I really voted in this game yet. Nothing I want to be pinned too.
So far, I feel a lot of this Day 1 has been filled with accusations over theory crap and hasn't done a whole lot towards actual scumhunting. So please, can we cut the crap and get to some more serious stuff?
Netopalis may have a little internal inconsistency regarding the RVS, but as far as I can tell that's all we've really got on him. The rest of it is theory mumbo jumbo that shouldn't have shown up in the first place. Hardly evidence I would lynch someone over. Although I would ask him: what's wrong with parroting other people's arguments, as long as I agree with them and/or add additional content to them?
Glork, did you really throw out a random vote at this stage of the game? We aren't in RVS anymore.
Netlava could do with some more content, but he's finally managed to point out something that I like: Haylen's lack of content posts. Sure, I can appreciate jokes as well as anyone, but we've gotten into the serious stage of the game. Comments on issues at hand are highly appreciated--and highly lacking from Haylen atm. Haylen, would you mind posting more content? Because I'm tempted to move my vote off of Netlava and onto you.
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Given that you haven't provided a logical explanation for your vote, and you did provide a silly one, I'll have to go with yes (unless you explain otherwise).Glork wrote:Bogre wrote:
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Bah, FUBARed the quote tags. Take two:
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Given that you haven't provided a logical explanation for your vote, and you did provide a silly one, I'll have to go with yes (unless you explain otherwise).Glork wrote:
Do you think my vote was random?SaintKerrigan wrote:Glork, did you really throw out a random vote at this stage of the game? We aren't in RVS anymore.ALMOST ALWAYS BUSY 9-6 CST WEEKDAYS-
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Well, look at that. I make a vote for Zachrulez, and guess who shows up? Either that's active lurking, or damned good timing.
Regarding Neto: Your only reason for voting him is for his avoiding bandwagons. How exactly is that scummy?
Regarding Mae: Again, only reason for suspicion is you got the "same bad vibe" that Netlava did, going on to explain that Mae's post (I can't remember which now, but it's beside the point) is laden with "sarcasm, possibly even gloating." That's just not a good tell.
Those the only two suspicions you've had all game. Whereas I've been a little more rounded out. That's why I feel the lurker argument is more applicable to you than me.
I forgot to say this about Elli earlier, so I'll say it now: the playstyle he's using isn't that much of a tell. He's used it in both games I've played with him, one in which he was town, and one in which he was scum. I don't think his playstyle really tells much about whether he's scum or not.ALMOST ALWAYS BUSY 9-6 CST WEEKDAYS-
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Again, why is this scummy?Zachrulez wrote:Didn't his very first post actually discourage bandwagoning in general? That's how I interpretted it. Maybe we have different feelings about how to take that, but I don't really like it at all.
Why would scum brag to town? Wouldn't that just give away their identity?Zachrulez wrote:Yeah, I find gloating to be a pretty good tell, scum bragging to town and such. In her case it's not very clear though, but the post doesn't really give me a good feeling.
There's not much I can argue against gut, except to say I think you're wrong.
It would really help to see some more suspects out of you, or better reasons for the ones you have. Preferably, I'd like to see both things.ALMOST ALWAYS BUSY 9-6 CST WEEKDAYS-
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What are you talking about? I only voted for Haylen once, and that was a joke vote.Maemuki wrote:
Ahm, no. It's closely related to that, but it isn't that. If KMD thinks that Haylen is town, and SK was voting for Haylen, I couldn't see how he thought that they were both town. It confused me, therefore I replied on that sarcastic way. Understood?Possible gloating is in the way you hit KMD for his failure to keep SK from voting one of his town reads.ALMOST ALWAYS BUSY 9-6 CST WEEKDAYS-
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@ Zach: I don't like Netlava anymore. I like you better now, so my vote's gonna move back.
Unvote: Zachrulez. Vote: Netlava.
Haylen: Consider my issues with you not posting content resolved. By the way, if you want to see a game where I started out as town, just check my Wiki. That's what it's there for.ALMOST ALWAYS BUSY 9-6 CST WEEKDAYS-
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Off the top of my head...town. The arguments against him so far haven't gelled for me.Ellibereth wrote:
Hi Kerri. What do you think of Neto?SaintKerrigan wrote:@ Zach: I don't like Netlava anymore. I like you better now, so my vote's gonna move back.
Unvote: Zachrulez. Vote: Netlava.
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Shoot! There goes my perfect trap! But sure, I'll take a donut. They're town tells, right?Maemuki wrote:
...I...don't really know...he's quite hard to read imo. I'll return to this when I'm a bit less sleepy. But his refusal to claim at L-2 on a speed game is a bit weird-ish.Maemuki: What is your opinion on Netopalis? Scum? Town? Why? On a side note, got any cookies? Very Happy
And no, no cookies this time. Want donuts?
I don't find his refusal to claim all that weird. He's at L-2 for reasons that I feel he shouldn't be at L-2 for. I don't think it's the right time for him to claim, if he should need to claim at all.
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To everyone still voting Netopalis: Why aren't you buying the claim? What exactly has Netopalis done that warranted the claim in the first place?
To everyone who unvoted Netopalis: Why did you unvote as soon as you got the claim?
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I got yours. I just didn't feel like individually singling out people and asking the same questions.Zachrulez wrote:
Pretty sure I made this clear the first time I answered it.SaintKerrigan wrote:To everyone still voting Netopalis: Why aren't you buying the claim? What exactly has Netopalis done that warranted the claim in the first place?
And Haylen, huh??? Your PBPA was pretty strong regarding why you were voting Netopalis. How could you just now reread the thread and not figure out why you were voting him?
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Unvote: Haylen.Point made. I do disagree with your case against Neto, however.
I prefer aVote: Zachrulez.He's largely been avoiding the Neto controversy, except to say he doesn't like him (in a generalish sort of way) and to claim scum love hider types of claims, neither of which I feel are lynch-worthy.ALMOST ALWAYS BUSY 9-6 CST WEEKDAYS-
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Your vote was for Neto avoiding bandwagons. You haven't commented on him all that much after that, other than to say you disagree with Neto's voting-with-reason stance and that you didn't believe the claim.Zachrulez wrote:
I don't see how I've been avoiding it....SaintKerrigan wrote:Unvote: Haylen.Point made. I do disagree with your case against Neto, however.
I prefer aVote: Zachrulez.He's largely been avoiding the Neto controversy, except to say he doesn't like him (in a generalish sort of way) and to claim scum love hider types of claims, neither of which I feel are lynch-worthy.You apparently want this guy lynched, but for the life of me I can't figure out why based on what you've posted. Hence, avoiding the controversy.ALMOST ALWAYS BUSY 9-6 CST WEEKDAYS-
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The claim doesn't make me think he's scummier, if that's what you mean. I've maintained that I think Neto is town, and that the arguments against him have been crap. The claim doesn't do anything to make me think otherwise.Zachrulez wrote:Do you have a particular reason to believe the claim? Other than the fact that he claimed?ALMOST ALWAYS BUSY 9-6 CST WEEKDAYS-
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Links or it didn't happen.Zachrulez wrote:
Even in light of the many games I have played in where I have seen half a dozen hider claims from someone who was scum, and EXACTLY ZERO from pro-town players?SaintKerrigan wrote:
The claim doesn't make me think he's scummier, if that's what you mean. I've maintained that I think Neto is town, and that the arguments against him have been crap. The claim doesn't do anything to make me think otherwise.Zachrulez wrote:Do you have a particular reason to believe the claim? Other than the fact that he claimed?
That could have nothing to do with the fact that I want him lynched... nope, not at all.
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@ Camn: There's been plenty of time for Zach to defend himself. He came on pretty much everytime I voted him to explain his reasons for doing what he did. So it's not as if this wagon sprang up suddenly. It's just that someone else's bandwagon (cough cough) took up most of the attention...ALMOST ALWAYS BUSY 9-6 CST WEEKDAYS-
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