Mafia 108 - Mafia With The Quickness - over!

[Glork]

Eeeh...Glork?

Why do you want Bogre to claim?

He's on about the same level as Kerri suspicion wise.

I never knew your name was Glork!

What he said is the exact reason, though. It is like 95% likely that AT LEAST one of those two is scum with Neto. I want to make certain that we lynch scum today, and that involves grilling them both.

[Glork]

So if Neto is not a hider then he's... (I'll let you finish that thought.)

Oh, come on. I said I

doubted

Neto's claim, not that I

disbelieved

it. You're twisting my words there, Zach. That's not nice.

Actually, the word "I doubt that <...>" means "I find <...> unlikely to be true." So yeah, you were saying you were leaning towards disbelieving the claim.



Like Neto, StKer seems irritated that people were close to stringing him up. However, while Neto's behavior was obtuse and accusatory (an obvious sign of scum's guilty conscience), StKer seems far more genuine. His reaction especially to Zach's most recent posts rings true to me, as strange as that may sound.

I do currently like a Bogrelynch better. He's shown himself to be here, but he's skating. I think he's really hoping that StKer will bury himself by talking.

Confirm Vote: Bogre

Claim now.

[SaintKerrigan]

Glork: Bogre already claimed vanilla earlier.

[SaintKerrigan]

Actually, the word "I doubt that <...>" means "I find <...> unlikely to be true." So yeah, you were saying you were leaning towards disbelieving the claim.

But the point was I never actually said Neto was scum. I was entertaining the possibility, true, but it was never a sure fact for me.

[Bogre]

Mmk, since I'm currently leading, I feel you all should know why lynching Kerrrigan is a better choice than I, and that involves:

1. Pushing the Netlava wagon and supporting the Zach wagon when it looked worthwhile (to free Neto).
2. Dancing around the point of Haylen, making several self-contradictory responses.
3. Being 'unsure' of the hider claim - voicing suspicion, yet not taking a firm stance.

Just because Kerrigan is posting doesn't suggest he is town and I am scum- he has more to gain from drowning the town in posts and staying alive today than I do. I admit, based on voting records and support of wagons, he and I are in the same boat, and so killing the both of us, as Glork said, will allow us to most likely get 1 scum in the mix. Losing a vanilla isn't that much a price to pay (though of course, lynching him first and not losing me would be better. )

If you'd like to explain why you'd want me dead over him, I'd like to answer.

[Incognito]

Vote Count #6 of Day 3

Haylen (1) <-~ Maemuki
*Bogre (4) <-~ Yosarian2, Haylen, Glork, Ellibereth
SaintKerrigan (2) <-~ Zachrulez, Bogre
Zachrulez (1) <-~ SaintKerrigan

With 8 alive, 5 votes will do it.

Note:

an asterisk by a player's name indicates said player would be lynched if Day were to end right this moment without a lynch majority.

Monday, January 18th at 5 P.M. EST

[SaintKerrigan]

1. Pushing the Netlava wagon and supporting the Zach wagon when it looked worthwhile (to free Neto).

I pushed the Netlava wagon because I thought he was scum and I rode on the Zach wagon because I felt he was a better lynch than Neto (and at the time it was basically Zach vs Neto).

2. Dancing around the point of Haylen, making several self-contradictory responses.

Point out where I was being self-contradictory. I started out the day by saying she felt scummy. When I first ISO'ed her, I found something (the early vote for Neto) that I thought made her look protown, so I said so. When I looked at it again, I realized it wasn't really a good indication of towniness, so I changed my mind. You're implying, of course, that Haylen is scummy by using this point against me. So may I ask what makes me a better lynch than her?

3. Being 'unsure' of the hider claim - voicing suspicion, yet not taking a firm stance.

How exactly does that indicate scumminess or not? This sounds like a reach to me.

Just because Kerrigan is posting doesn't suggest he is town and I am scum- he has more to gain from drowning the town in posts and staying alive today than I do.

How do I have more to gain by "drowning the town in posts," as you say? You're also twisting the issue here by implying that Glork called me town just for posting, when really it was for the content and feel of my posts, plus the fact that I've been around and posting while you've been around and not posting.

[Haylen]

Haylen, what do you think of Yosarian2

Needs to post more.

...Bogre versus Maemuki...

He's lurker scum and needs to die.

[SaintKerrigan]

I was rather hoping for more enlightening answers than that, Haylen.

Anything else on Yos2 besides him needing to post more (I'm think he's V/LA right now, if I recall correctly)?

Why is Bogre scum, besides for active lurking? Do you think Mae is scum? Why or why not? What is the difference between your active lurking and Bogre's active lurking?

[Haylen]

Sorry, I'm busy writing up a piece of coursework that i forgot I have that needs to be handed in tomorrow.

[Haylen]

Dont expect me to be around much tomorrow, btw

[Ellibereth]

I'm still leaning Bogre over Kerri today.

[Yosarian2]

Ooh, found this little nugget from Bogre.

Not supporting the Neto bandwagon isn't scummy in of itself- I didn't support it, if you'll notice.

(From Day 2)

And one of his reasons for voting me is for staying off the Neto wagon. Contradiction noted.

:eyebrow:

Did you miss it when I already pointed that quote out, SK?

[Yosarian2]

And then, after that little spot of distancing, SK goes and votes for Zach.

DO you really think it's likely Zach and Neto were scum together, SaintK, considering the way they were the two main bandwagons for most of day 1?

[Yosarian2]

If you'd like to explain why you'd want me dead over him, I'd like to answer.

I already did, in great detail, where I explained in post 868 why I think you're likely to be scum with Neto. You gave a very brief response; pretty much the only point you really defended yourself on was when you said

I was the original one to push the Zach wagon, when Neto wasn't under consideration, I wasn't pushing the counterwagon.

Which is reasonable enough, but completly ignores the main points I brought up against you.

That being said, right now, I think you and SK are most likely both scum together.

[Glork]

Thanks, SK, I hadn't noticed.


I'm really okay lynching either one today. They're both the two most likely scumbaggoes at this point.


Hopefully the other gets Vigged and we get to go home after today.

[SaintKerrigan]

Did you miss it when I already pointed that quote out, SK?

You pointed out the quote earlier, yes, but I was illuminating the little contradiction that Bogre gives. If he thinks not being on the Neto wagon isn't scummy, why is he using it as a reason to vote me?

And then, after that little spot of distancing, SK goes and votes for Zach.

DO you really think it's likely Zach and Neto were scum together, SaintK, considering the way they were the two main bandwagons for most of day 1?

Where was I distancing, and from whom? I consider Zach a possible scum, with you as the likely remaining scum in that case (given your reluctance to lynch either one of them).

I obviously don't support my own lynch. I would vote for Bogre, but my vote would be the hammer, and I'm not ready to end the day just yet. I'm interested in seeing what other people have to say first.

[Incognito]

Sending prods out to Bogre, Maemuki, and Zachrulez.
Reminder: you have 5 hours and 30 minutes until deadline.

[Zachrulez]

Yeah, been busy at work during the week, and distracted by the playoffs yesterday.

I will look at the thread and try to post over lunch.

[Yosarian2]

Where was I distancing, and from whom?

You distanced from Bogre, making a weak attack against him and then voting for Zach.

I consider Zach a possible scum, with you as the likely remaining scum in that case (given your reluctance to lynch either one of them).

That dosn't actually answer my question, which is, why do you think it's likely Zach is scum with Bogre considering that they were the main two bandwagons for most of day 1?

(Also, nice little implied barb at the end there. I was certanly not "reluctant" to lynch Neto yesterday, and I think I made clear yesterday that I was intending to eventually vote for him; only reason I ended up not doing so was because the day ended so quickly.)

I obviously don't support my own lynch. I would vote for Bogre, but my vote would be the hammer, and I'm not ready to end the day just yet. I'm interested in seeing what other people have to say first.

What do you think about Bogre, SK?

[Maemuki]

Wonderful. >.<

Yeah, school's been awful for me. Stupid Spanish!

This game has surely slowed down. I still defend my SK/Hayl scumteam, but unlike Glork, I do not feel that SK's posts have been townier. Why do you think so, Glork?

[Glork]

Like I said, his language -- especially in his reactions to the push against him -- seems like genuine protown frustration.

I realize how bad this is going to look on the off-chance that Bogre is town and StKer is scum, but meh.

[Haylen]

Right, so here's how much of a shite day i've had:

1. Fire alarm went off at 3am and didn't get turned off til 5am.
2. Didn't managed to hand in my coursework.
3. Couldn't find the email of the teacher to ask for an extention.
4. Got my BioPsychology exam result back and found that I failed it by LESS THAN 1 MARK.

Anyway i'm here for the deadline.

[Maemuki]

Right, so here's how much of a shite day i've had:

1. Fire alarm went off at 3am and didn't get turned off til 5am.
2. Didn't managed to hand in my coursework.
3. Couldn't find the email of the teacher to ask for an extention.
4. Got my BioPsychology exam result back and found that I failed it by LESS THAN 1 MARK.

Anyway i'm here for the deadline.

*gives cookies*

Look at the bright side - you didn't get a 0!

gah spanish test gah oral presentation about japan aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh gah portuguese test about verbs gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[Haylen]

I'm gonna get 0 in ANOTHER EMSA piece of coursework though if they don't let me have the extension