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In post 518, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 508, Flubbernugget wrote:House's investment in there being a cop in the setup bothers me
What is that supposed to mean?...
*reads ISO*
Wait what? i don't get it, your whole ammount of 4 posts are.... worth nothing.
Why isn't otalia worth a vote?-
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In post 527, Otolia wrote:In post 520, Flubbernugget wrote:In post 518, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 508, Flubbernugget wrote:House's investment in there being a cop in the setup bothers me
What is that supposed to mean?...
*reads ISO*
Wait what? i don't get it, your whole ammount of 4 posts are.... worth nothing.
Why isn't otalia worth a vote?
The question you should ask is how am I even veing voted on. But we'll get to that if you manage to wave your hands high enough people will notice - I don't mention when you hypothetically have a case because that would be too far-fetched. In fact so far, you've posted a meager 58 words (give or take 5). Even by my fairly low standards, that's laughable. But hey, you actually have an opinion so you have that going for you. Good job
I'm forwarding the game state further than you are with less words while still doing next nothing so you're gonna have to try harder than to discredit me as incompetent.-
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In post 529, Sakura Hana wrote:In post 528, Flubbernugget wrote:I'm pretty sure otalia's scumtells are obvious
What scumtells?
They're obviously not obvious (lol) to me at least.
The majority of his iso is iioa about varsoon-
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In post 534, Sakura Hana wrote:In post 531, Flubbernugget wrote:The majority of his iso is iioa about varsoon
Actually iioa, and a scumread on Varsoon, an "Currently i dig thor" whatever that means, and an opinion about verifying Varsoon's hated modifier (or rather verifying he doesn't have it).
Which is more than your single scumread in your whole ISO.
One scumread + fluff = one scumread
except his fluff comes off as trying to look busy. also he just bettlejuiced and I don't understand why these things aren't self-evident-
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In post 556, Otolia wrote:@Varsoon : You really are a Village Idiot. I sincerely hope don't flip scum so that I can blacklist you as the terrible player you are.
There's more than one player in the game ya'kno-
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In post 546, Varsoon wrote:In post 523, Flubbernugget wrote:Varsoon wagon makes it easy for scum to hide. Kinda like what otalia's doing
You~<3 On one hand, it's nice when there's people that see eye-to-eye. On the other, those folks have less sway.
Are you ready to know what bothers me? Whatreallychuffs me is that everyone is all "What's the scum motivation to that claim? Why would Varsoon scum do that?"
Already there's so many people so confbiased it hurts. No one's openly asking why Town!Varsoon would do it. They'd rather deride me (Otolia) or just flat-out scum read it instead of mulling it over.
Dead-thread will be frustrating. Basically, a scumread on me marks a failure to engage with the game properly. It allows players to cross their arms on a read no one but me is going to call them out for in a game where there's 20 other players.
I in no way said you were town. If you were my scumbuddy I'd be bussing the shit out of you.-
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In post 563, Sakura Hana wrote:In post 562, Flubbernugget wrote:If you were my scumbuddy I'd be bussing the shit out of you.
That's what his partners are probably doing right now tbh.
So you're admitting his flip buries associatives tomorrow in wifom and should know any varsoon lynch is a gamble and are somehow okay with that.-
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In post 565, House wrote:In post 562, Flubbernugget wrote:
I in no way said you were town. If you were my scumbuddy I'd be bussing the shit out of you.
Point taken.
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House wrote:In post 568, Flubbernugget wrote:In post 565, House wrote:In post 562, Flubbernugget wrote:
I in no way said you were town. If you were my scumbuddy I'd be bussing the shit out of you.
Point taken.
VOTE: Flubbernugget
Are you implying I'm bussing him or
Nope, I'm implying you are scum and he is lynchbait.
Okay. So you agree that varsoon is lynchbait with me, and you're still voting me despite the counterwagon I'm trying to form?-
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In post 597, House wrote:In post 576, Flubbernugget wrote:House wrote:In post 568, Flubbernugget wrote:In post 565, House wrote:In post 562, Flubbernugget wrote:
I in no way said you were town. If you were my scumbuddy I'd be bussing the shit out of you.
Point taken.
VOTE: Flubbernugget
Are you implying I'm bussing him or
Nope, I'm implying you are scum and he is lynchbait.
Okay. So you agree that varsoon is lynchbait with me, and you're still voting me despite the counterwagon I'm trying to form?
White knighting is a thing.
Also, avatar.
I've town read varsoon where?-
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In post 608, House wrote:In post 607, Flubbernugget wrote:In post 597, House wrote:In post 576, Flubbernugget wrote:House wrote:In post 568, Flubbernugget wrote:In post 565, House wrote:In post 562, Flubbernugget wrote:
I in no way said you were town. If you were my scumbuddy I'd be bussing the shit out of you.
Point taken.
VOTE: Flubbernugget
Are you implying I'm bussing him or
Nope, I'm implying you are scum and he is lynchbait.
Okay. So you agree that varsoon is lynchbait with me, and you're still voting me despite the counterwagon I'm trying to form?
White knighting is a thing.
Also, avatar.
I've town read varsoon where?
That's what's so scummy. You're criticizing his wagon without committing yourself to a read.
It's fucking varsoon. Anyone with a commited read on him right now has either never played with him before or is lying to themselves.-
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In post 641, Gorkington wrote:Do you think Varsoon/Otolia together makes any kind of sense Sakura?
Because I don't.
I think it does-
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In post 746, droog wrote:What is the crap of these first pages
Someone is scummy for not doing anything about it
Sakura? Marquis?
Actually can I get the page numbers for this-
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In post 759, droog wrote:In post 748, Flubbernugget wrote:Good to know droog is town
Hey flubber
Long time no see
How's the degree going
Also why do you think this
This game has a lot of opportunities for scum to hide, none of which I see you taking. I could scum read you if you'd like-
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In post 770, Otolia wrote:In post 761, Flubbernugget wrote:This game has a lot of opportunities for scum to hide, none of which I see you taking. I could scum read you if you'd like
"Scum lurks in this town", "Scum could be voting or they could not be", "Some scum could pile on Varsoon" etc etc
Statistically speaking the bigger the game are, the less scummy actions have consequences (the risk of being lynched in D1 is 1 out of # of players). Thus your talk about bussing, hiding and everything else while valid in limited environment where mistakes are paid swiftly isn't in this game. As such, I'm flagging you for being very general with your statements for which you risk nothing and you look like scumhunting. As the game progress, I'm expecting to see more specific cases with more thought-out motives behind your accusations.
Droog had three posts at the time of my read on him so you can calm your tits and stop trying to onlylookbusy-
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In post 807, Otolia wrote:In post 804, Flubbernugget wrote:Droog had three posts at the time of my read on him so you can calm your tits and stop trying to only look busy
Maybe you should take your she-male fetish in 62 if it's still exists, people there will be able to help you controlling those urges.
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In post 999, Flames of Disaster wrote:Did I say that Varsoon was a scumread? Oh dear me, I must have forgotten! Could you please refresh my memory by quoting the post where I said that?
VOTE: flames
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In post 1028, Flames of Disaster wrote:In post 1025, Flubbernugget wrote:In post 999, Flames of Disaster wrote:Did I say that Varsoon was a scumread? Oh dear me, I must have forgotten! Could you please refresh my memory by quoting the post where I said that?
VOTE: flames
voting for a non-scum read
How is that scummy? Can you explain it for us?
Why would you vote for someone you don't find scummy when you could be getting an actual scum read closer to lynch?-
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In post 1028, Flames of Disaster wrote:In post 1025, Flubbernugget wrote:In post 999, Flames of Disaster wrote:Did I say that Varsoon was a scumread? Oh dear me, I must have forgotten! Could you please refresh my memory by quoting the post where I said that?
VOTE: flames
voting for a non-scum read
How is that scummy? Can you explain it for us?
Why would you vote for someone you don't find scummy when you could be getting an actual scum read closer to lynch?-
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In post 1415, Thor665 wrote:In post 1414, elusive wrote:Also, Thor what is your take on NEMNOMC
In post 1413, Thor665 wrote:I mildly like this case, though find the defense reasonable and thus not particularly sheepable.
You have no response to what marquis pointed out?-
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In post 1420, Thor665 wrote:In post 1418, Flubbernugget wrote:In post 1415, Thor665 wrote:In post 1414, elusive wrote:Also, Thor what is your take on NEMNOMC
In post 1413, Thor665 wrote:I mildly like this case, though find the defense reasonable and thus not particularly sheepable.
You have no response to what marquis pointed out?
You are literally reading my response to what Marquis pointed out.
That was fairly obvious. I apologize.
How can you like his case when you said at the beginning of that same post that you don't understand the otalia case?-
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In post 1444, Thor665 wrote:In post 1443, Flubbernugget wrote:Probably not reading either. Oh well.
Replace out?
But I'm enjoying myself-
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In post 1473, pisskop wrote:In post 1469, Flubbernugget wrote:no your not
Oh hey.
Well I was. Im gonna get ya. Why cant you pop out something substantial?
Are you judging based on word count or something? I'm not going to throw a fit about people not lynching obvscum right now when people like having their time to talk. If anything it's giving me a bunch of townreads so there's that-
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In post 1481, Thor665 wrote:
In post 1467, Flubbernugget wrote:In post 1444, Thor665 wrote:In post 1443, Flubbernugget wrote:Probably not reading either. Oh well.
Replace out?
But I'm enjoying myself
I don't care. You aren't playing the game and thus making it not fun for anyone else.
Not playing the game the way thor does is different than not playing.
Also look at all the people blacklisting me-
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In post 1527, Varsoon wrote:Hey all,
I still exist.
I'm still on V/LA until the 30th, but now I have -some- access.
Glossed over the last ten pages.
Mnemonic seems better than Otoliolio
Gloss a little slower next time
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In post 1566, Thor665 wrote:
In post 1565, Flubbernugget wrote:Hey thor how is having no scum reads town?
How is tunneling on varsoon town?
How is mnemonic's reads list town?
Why is the otalia slot allowed to be Smurftons more incompetent than your scumread elusiveand still be Smurfing town?
1. I agree it is not particularly pro-town, but it is hardly proof of pro-scum play either. I have been town with no town reads - has that never happened to you?
2. How is it scummy? I submit it is neutral. Hell, yesterday *I* tunneled on Varsoon - so, do you think I'm scum too?
3. How is it scummy?
4. I have not called Elusive scum for being incompetent. I have also not called Mneumonic, nor Otolia, town. I have asked for the case on them...I am generally being met with empty rhetoric. Which...eh, is a thing - but I'm not sure if people honestly expect it to convince me when I'm sitting on multiple scumspects with cases I can actually describe.
When I have no reads I admit it and give some attempt to explain why. I don't tunnelfuck the vi to cover it up.
Marquis has an inconsitency in mnenomic's reads list that you say isn't worthy of sheeping while going on about your own inconsistencies with elusive that require a lot more mental gymnasics to follow (I really don't know what your problem is with her tbh). It's like the case with the longest word count gives you the hardest boner.
There's also the fact that mnemonic slot has done nothing between two separate players to forward the game state. And its so bad,the slot is still being referred to as otalia's slot.Because that's next to all there is to look at.-
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In post 1584, Thor665 wrote:In post 1583, Flubbernugget wrote:When I have no reads I admit it and give some attempt to explain why. I don't tunnelSmurf the vi to cover it up.
Marquis has an inconsitency in mnenomic's reads list that you say isn't worthy of sheeping while going on about your own inconsistencies with elusive that require a lot more mental gymnasics to follow (I really don't know what your problem is with her tbh). It's like the case with the longest word count gives you the hardest boner.
There's also the fact that mnemonic slot has done nothing between two separate players to forward the game state. And its so bad,the slot is still being referred to as otalia's slot.Because that's next to all there is to look at.
1. I kind of thought this Mneumonic case was that...but, okay, so you're agreeing it's possible to not have town reads - so where's the fire in him not having town reads (also, frankly, didn't he have town reads? I seem to recall some on that list. Not a lot, but like 1-3)
2. I actually dislike overlong cases.
I have explained (and linked) my Elusive case multiple times. Here is a link to me linking the case; http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p6700116
I agree there is an "inconsistency" in the reads list of mneumonic - I disagree that it is a scummier inconsistency than the one Elusive did...because what Elusive did was a straight up lie, not an inconsistency.
3. If "doing gak all" was a scumtell in this game, I can think of worse offenders than that slot. i will agree it is an issue.
I will agree that some people are still referring to the slot as Otolia's slot (you most of all) - I don't think that's a valid scumtell.
I disagree that it is all there is to look at - even you are referencing a case by Marquis that is *not* based on Otolia.
My favorite part of this post is where you went out of your way to change tunnelfuck to tunnelsmurf and still missed that it was a key word in my gripe with otalia's lack of reads.
Also, I clicked both links to your case and I still don't get it, and can't be assed to retrack through the game to figure it out. I'm not the only one.-
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In post 1629, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:at Flub-
You should take a look at the interaction between Sakura and NS as well as the case on FOD by NS. They are both good reads. Tell me what you think
I think the puppy gag took the flames wagon too far in hindsight but flame's abusive play wasn't helping.
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In post 1768, Antihero wrote:In post 1764, Flubbernugget wrote:He does
argue this is like quilford's small town
straight face required whole way
go
I see pissing matches and "squeamishness"
I hate using that word, but it's the best I have. There's an impression you don't want to get your hands dirty. Maybe it's because your strengths are in setup cracking. Idk.
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In post 1792, Antihero wrote:YOU LITERALLY JUST SAW MY SCUMGAME HOW IS THAT AN INTERESTING REACTION?
jeez... people
In post 1793, Antihero wrote:also, how many heartless games have you been in flubber?
i feel like... most of them.
why are you playing dumb?
Making a mountain out of a molehill warrants scrutiny regardless of meta.
Honestly the mafia lottery game is where I'm getting my "squeamish" vibe from. I'm trying to stay away from activity tells because like marquis said shit happens. I see the snark but I don't see a lot of plays that seem really obvscum to me being pegged like they were in chosen.-
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