NY 187: Pariah's Mafia [/FIN]

Titus · Thu Sep 17, 2015 3:38 pm

Thanks for the concern, but we all have our vices. I drink in moderation.

My work actually centers on alcohol too. Now, I appreciate the concern but you're still not scumhunting.

Titus · Thu Sep 17, 2015 3:51 pm

A vig enabler, I'm presuming, is a role that must be alive for the vigs to be able to act. Just like any other enabler.

Kitty, yeah you missed me casing you as the double voter, a wagon on Hermit, basically putting forth any semblence of scumhunting.

Meh, not a fan of an Ank wagon.

Titus · Thu Sep 17, 2015 3:54 pm

Possibly but I generally don't drink to stumbling level. Can't be my own client.

Titus · Thu Sep 17, 2015 4:39 pm

There's a drunk mafia?

Titus · Thu Sep 17, 2015 4:53 pm

Sorry, but PoE is textbook. You're the only plausible person on at the time the middle double vote was cast.

The fact you're quibbling over the idiom of something being textbook shows you and I both know you're not town.

Titus · Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:19 pm

@Performer, the "semblance of scumhunting" comment was referring to what Kitty missed. It was a smartass way of saying she isn't scumhunting.

The rest of that paragraph is so awkward and stilted.

Keysor is never getting lynched.

You're acknowledging that you're scummy but yet wondering why I voted you? You have the same issues Hermit has. You've spent a lot of words saying nothing or doubt casting.

Under no condition is anyone to PM Performer. I don't think anyone would but drunk people do shit.

Also, SK or 2nd scum team is required.

I think you're trying to fake extremely new.

Titus · Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:16 am

Yeah Performer just scumclaimed.

If it is three scum alive versus an SK versus town, lynching the SK is 100% autoloss for town. If it's 4scum, the only scenario where town wins is the everyone dies scenario. Only three group scum total is absurd in a large theme. The closest Performer comes to hunting is SK hunting which is what scum need to do, not town.

You're sleeping each and every part of my Kitty isn't town analysis, but for the conclusion Kitty is groupscum. That makes zero sense.

I think Performer is bussing Kitty here.

I don't think Performer believes the whole PM me crap, otherwise he would have highlighted that Kitty didn't violate mafia rules by PMing him.

Perhaps Kitty is less valuable than Performer.

If you really are that new Performer, talking about the game outside the game thread is forbidden. Your "simple" request gets whoever complies with it modkilled.

Titus · Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:31 am

Kitty, I didn't set up the double voter issue. I wasn't even in the game I think when all the posts were made then. If there's evidence proving me wrong, you can find it.

Given performer's scumclaim, you almost certainly get a pass for today. Prove me wrong.

Titus · Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:33 am

In post 2488, Boonskiies wrote:Performer had really no reason to bus kitty. I feel if he was scum, the push he would have made would have been on to me. Kitty/Ank/Keyser have all supported the idea of lynching me. I think he's pretty solidly town.

If Performer is the lynch anyway, he'd have every reason to bus Kitty. The biggest is that after his flip, no one will think Kitty is scum.

Pretty sure Kitty and Ank are all sifting you as a Mislynch and Keyser had intent to vote you at one point.

Titus · Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:34 am

In post 2490, Boonskiies wrote:Wait...holy crap. He did scum claim...

If there's 8 of us left, if the SK is lynched, there is a chance town instantly loses right there. If it's a 4 mafia, 1 SK game, and we lynch the SK, it's game over. I feel that legitimately was a scum slip after looking at it.

Winner winner chicken dinner

Vote Performer.

Titus · Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:51 am

Wow, that was the fastest jump ever for Boon.

Says he's scum, forgets to vote you (possibly deliberately) and all of a sudden Boon is town. :/

You're set on 2 groupscum remaining, yet 3 total groupscum is absurd to you? 3 group scum remaining means town has to lynch scum to remain in control of our destiny. Last time I checked 2 + 1 = 3.

Titus · Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:20 am

Work calls. Lynch ya later.

Titus · Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:14 pm

Out most of tomorrow.

Titus · Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:46 am

I am out.

Performer should be the lynch.

If you are against a performer lynch, lay out your case for me to review in the morning. Suppose I have no time to engage and list all premises and conclusions.

Bye.

Titus · Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:14 pm

I want to vote Kitty but I am not sure if scum and sk would crosskill and I think we need that to win.

There's a slim chance of 2 v 2, which means we have to lynch Kitty to win.

No one should vote at the moment until we are on the same page as to lynch v no lynch. Doubly so with the secret voter.

Titus · Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:13 pm

Aero, 2 red scum v 2 blue scum. Red scum would be dead. NL. Blue scum win.

I agree on SK hunting, but they are off limits to lynch.

Titus · Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:37 pm

Derp, my 2 v 2 was suggesting duppin was last red scum, so 2 red total and 2 blue total.

Titus · Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:57 pm

Aero what are your thoughts?

Titus · Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:42 am

@Boonskiies, why aren't you considering the possibility of Aero being the SK? He is twice bulletproof which makes sense with an expected kill from a town vig and scum each night?

Titus · Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:11 pm

@Ank, how likely do you think a Kitty + Boon team is?

Scum has low numbers and a high body count, a double voter makes sense as scum. Throw Aeronaut in as the SK and trying to make the day about doubting his role, and we're looking pretty good here no?

Anyway, I'm tired of waiting and compromising. That worked so well last time.

VOTE: Kitty Galore

Titus · Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:57 pm

Clarification: You're wanting to make the game all about hunting the SK because you're read as obvious town. The SK only wins if we lynch scum and then he crosskills scum and scum don't crosskill him if we suppose 4 scum at start with a serial killer.

Titus · Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:03 pm

I didn't want that to dominate the conversation, which looks to be your angle to me. *shrug*

Titus · Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:51 am

KG,

If you want to convince me you're town, find me the actual DV from your perspective.

Titus · Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:16 pm

In post 2568, Kitty Galore wrote:I understand, but let's say a vote comes, then the next vote didn't come in for 6 or 12, or 18 hours later. But a secret vote came in somewhere between, and everyone appears to have been on at some point between them. How can anyone be time in or out. That's what I'm not understanding.

Except you were the only living player in the window day 1.

Titus · Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:19 pm

Scum cannot win by quick hammer supposing 2 town v SK v 2 groupscum.

Suppose mislynch town.
Night goes in 1 v 1 v 2.
SK shoots scum.
Scum shoot last townie.

SK wins.

Scum should nl if not confident they've found the SK in your setup.

Titus · Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:30 pm

It's possible someone else snuck on, voted and left. It's just highly improbable looking at the timestamps.

If you think someone else lurked and left, make a case.

Titus · Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:53 pm

That should confirm Kitty as scum/the double voter.

Titus · Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:54 pm

Well unless Boon is massively framing KG.

We'll know for sure with the next VC.

Titus · Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:54 pm

Request vote count

Titus · Fri Sep 25, 2015 3:14 pm

Yeah Kitty is scum or the DV. Wagon ahoy.

Titus · Fri Sep 25, 2015 7:14 pm

I think you're the SK Aero.

Second, SK Double Voter claims here.

Third scum is woefully underpowered if all they have is boat + town enabler.

Titus · Fri Sep 25, 2015 7:14 pm

To be clear they'd claim the DV not the SK part.

Titus · Fri Sep 25, 2015 7:33 pm

@KG, if the DV had voted you, Boonskiies vote would have been the hammer. That's pretty solid evidence you are the DV or the DV won't vote you.

Titus · Fri Sep 25, 2015 8:41 pm

Even if I suppose for a moment that Boon is framing you, then who is the DV and why?

Titus · Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:57 pm

Almost everyone due to be prodded, in lylo.

Titus · Sun Sep 27, 2015 2:06 pm

Please bus Ank. Ty.

Titus · Sun Sep 27, 2015 2:07 pm

I mean at least make me consider boon kitty.

Titus · Sun Sep 27, 2015 2:37 pm

1) the double voter isn't town or SK. Here, either would claim being the DV.
2) a scum DV votes and hammers anyone I vote.
3) a scum DV and scum would auto hammer for win if they deduced the SK.

So either a) kitty is the DV or b) the DV is framing kitty while avoiding the thread day 1 when the DV was cast.

Titus · Sun Sep 27, 2015 6:46 pm

In post 2603, Boonskiies wrote:Keep in mind, I am confirmed not double voter.

Not so fast there.

You could be DV with Kitty as your buddy or scum framing Kitty. While it's highly unlikely and I believe in my own deductions, it's not confirmed you're not the DV.

Titus · Mon Sep 28, 2015 1:20 pm

In post 2606, Ankamius wrote:Titus why would Boon-scum want to frame Kitty over just trololol-lynching her?

If scum think Kitty is not the SK and lynch anyway, then scum could hand the game to the SK going with the assumption 2 group scum one SK two vts/bulletproof.

2 group scum
SK
2 VTs

VT is lynched

If scum lynch VT, then scum must shoot the SK to win at all after a quick hammer by boon.

A quickhammer by him confirms boon as scum. SK shoots him. That puts VT SK Scum, with scum shot left. Scum must a) shoot the SK OR b) no kill. Yet, no kill puts them in a situation where they must no lynch. (Town should never vote in that 3p lylo). Thus, this just helps the SK.

Scum would only want the SK lynched unless they could hide and Derp hammer.

TLDR: A town vt lynch turns the game into whoever shoots a vt loses if we presume 2 group scum and 1 SK.

Titus · Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:56 pm

So what are your thoughts currently?

Titus · Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:06 pm

Then join me Ank. We can test Boon to see if he was trying to frame/protect Kitty.

Titus · Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:02 am

..... Wtf

Titus · Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:14 am

Nah, you were nked because you were scumreading me..

Get endgames as mafia...that oughra be an achievement.

I doubt I would have changed my answer but did deadline hit?

Titus · Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:22 am

Damn work...I needed to fix things but ran out of time. My bad there.

Still rather surprised Kitty was town.

Titus · Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:24 am

Aero did you think I was scum?

Why did you shoot Boon?

Titus · Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:28 am

Aero, you won.

I told Boon not to claim SK.

Titus · Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:31 am

In post 2646, Aeronaut wrote:My particular strategy was to avoid getting into arguments with the "big" players who I knew would fight me to the death. This includes for me, RC, Titus, Garmr, BBT, etc.

I actually don't fight to the death much as scum. I generally tend to go after known qualities that obsess or avoid me as town BC I don't fear death.

Pretty sure Boon would a been lynched if I hadn't interfered. Probably would ave bussed if he didn't show.

Titus · Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:41 am

Well 2 shot was the tiebreaker. I though both shots were used, but 2 shot bp, double voter was more power than our whole team.

If Dave made it instead of Boon, we would have won.

Why did you have to shoot Garmr? He was my beard.

Titus · Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:54 am

Indeed Performer. I felt so bad taking advantage of you like that. You were obvnoob three steps behind. Getting exposed to scum Titus is not for the faint of heart early lol.

Titus · Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:25 pm

@Garmr, you did call me 100% town though. That was surprising. Why did you?

Titus · Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:07 pm

And what are they?

Titus · Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:06 pm

*Jedi mind tricks* Tell meeee.

Titus · Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:37 pm

You haven't had to deal with me as scum and scumhunt me (I literally outed before you subbed in Steven's Universe) :p

Titus · Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:13 pm

HU2 was clusterfuck...insane cop people tend to think town.

I loved being a scum insane cop.

Titus · Sun Oct 04, 2015 12:02 pm

Thank you. I disagree but it's valuable to know I am perceived.