Large Normal 208 - Fireworks Festival [End]

[TwoInAMillion]

What's the case?

[TwoInAMillion]

That's typical scum.

[TwoInAMillion]

See my response to joey

[TwoInAMillion]

That's one reason

[TwoInAMillion]

I've only played as town. I'm helping you by telling you who to vote for, it's not my fault if you don't listen.

[TwoInAMillion]

Nero isn't "looking town" to me. To me it seems like he's trying to look scummy more than look town.

[TwoInAMillion]

Joey makes the game about himself instead of actually trying to find scum. Don't know if how this relates to his meta.

[TwoInAMillion]

Joey makes the game about himself instead of actually trying to find scum. Don't know if how this relates to his meta.

read my meta then and stop fucking whining about my play thx

Apparently you don't have enough meta.

[TwoInAMillion]

I knew I liked you, Monkey.

I love your little pet names.

[TwoInAMillion]

I don't consider meta on another site actual meta.

[TwoInAMillion]

Joey makes the game about himself instead of actually trying to find scum. Don't know if how this relates to his meta.

read my meta then and stop fucking whining about my play thx

Apparently you don't have enough meta.

Search for cloudkicker, i have 10 fucking scum games

Looked at Mini Normal 1890 where you are scum. First thing that jumped out at me was that you were lynched, your scum team still won, but you didn't post at all at the end game, which tells me you aren't really interested in feedback/growing as a player, which is consistant with your current alt.

and this is a post from Boonskiies that presumably lead to your lynch on the day you replaced in as scum:

We lynch this today. That is just a ridiculous thing to attack. Look at that. He says I was wrong about what it was when I didn't even explain it? Why the fuck would I explain it? I don't give a fuck what any of you all think. I flat out stated that it wasn't the reason too, so stop discrediting. Holy fuck, never been more sure of a scum slot than this.

Suggests you are not as great a player as you think you are, and that your surface attitude(trying to be disruptive, not trying to find scum) is probably more of your real attitude/intentions that just bad play.

I don't consider meta on another site actual meta.

reading thread OP

js

Please explain.

[TwoInAMillion]

I didnt even remember that game @2mill, that was probably my least interested/invested mafia game on site. That was also like my 5-6 red flip in 7-8 games and i was pretty fucking annoyed or something like that, i didnt want to play as mafia and i was getting hardbussed by my partners which pissed me off so

You know in mafia you don't get to choose your alignment, right?

I love how you ask me to meta you and when I disagree with my meta methods you discredit me.

[TwoInAMillion]

Also very little interaction between UCV/Lucky and Joey. Scumteam anyone?

[TwoInAMillion]

You cant just nitpick one bad game and think you can know me as a player seriously, youre starting to convince me youre seriously stupid

I didn't nitpick, it's your last scum game afaict.

Lucky today, Joey tomorrow please.

[TwoInAMillion]

Also very little interaction between UCV/Lucky and Joey. Scumteam anyone?

I doubt Joey is but I could compromise on UCV.

Any defense doesn't actually include a good reason why he is town.

[TwoInAMillion]

Also very little interaction between UCV/Lucky and Joey. Scumteam anyone?

I doubt Joey is but I could compromise on UCV.

Any defense doesn't actually include a good reason why he is town.

The burden of proof is on the acsuser

This is mafia not a courtroom. Not being towny is just as bad as being scummy, and you are being both. The fact that you are bringing up burden of proof in day 2 is a scumslip to me.

[TwoInAMillion]

Had enough of this for tonight.

Joey doesn't like being scum, which is why he is spending so much time cussing people out.

[TwoInAMillion]

I don't make up with scum. Joey is offended that I caught him and is throwing a tantrum about it. I'm going to be devoting more of my time on other players in the future, though.

[TwoInAMillion]

Alternatively, Joey is just 3 and he's not caught scum.

It's possible. Right now I have Joey at 65% scum 35% town.

[TwoInAMillion]

Gerry is on my no lynch list at the moment.

[TwoInAMillion]

I've payed games with him and I'm not going to burn bridges that may help later.
His play doesn't strike me as scummy.

[TwoInAMillion]

From Town to scum:

Me

Gerry

Nero

Joey/Lucky

Strongly reccomend the UCV wagon or wouldn't mind a joey wagon either but no reason to switch from one scum wagon to another.

[TwoInAMillion]

Scum is trying to split up the town again and force a bad lynch.

[TwoInAMillion]

We are voting the same person.

[TwoInAMillion]

And I have not claimed anything.

[TwoInAMillion]

Okay, I will lay off Joey if Lucky flips scum:).

[TwoInAMillion]

Axle was on my scum list early day 1 but has sort of moderated. I could possibly go for an axellynch on a later day.

[TwoInAMillion]

Or they are just scum that are lurking.

[TwoInAMillion]

or just unable to read 120 pages that quickly.

Just skip most of the Joey/TiaM banter.

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: Joey

I actually agree with Lucky. Joey's flip will say alot about Lucky, and everyone seems to have an opinion on Joey so I think Lucky v. Joey is pretty much 1v1 at this point.

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: Joey

I actually agree with Lucky. Joey's flip will say alot about Lucky, and everyone seems to have an opinion on Joey so I think Lucky v. Joey is pretty much 1v1 at this point.

How is that even remotely, a 1vs1 in any way, you are sincerely terrible at this game

Because I don't see any way that you are both scum unless Lucky is bussing you(which would be good for town) and I don't see any way you can both be town.

[TwoInAMillion]

Yes, I am really bent out of shape about not getting input from scum.

[TwoInAMillion]

I was going to vote off of Lucky, but now I think we need to lynch that. gerryoat and Joey are both town but Joey is with more certainty. TIAM, I wish I could convince you of a read. Joey, be a good kitty and join us, please.

The fact that both town flips had Joey as scum doesn't say anything to you?

[TwoInAMillion]

Oh I think I'm enjoying that. 2IAM, is that exactly a good reason to scumread Joey as if those players weren't.. capable of being wrong on him the same as anyone else would be?

They are more likely to be right than scum, who have motivation to scumread town and townread scum.

[TwoInAMillion]

Aside from that, lynching Joey before Lucky is better because Lucky is more willing to provide actual content on different players which is more helpful in finding scum later in the game.

[TwoInAMillion]

One town player scumreading someone is a coincidence, two is a pattern.

[TwoInAMillion]

Also that a) no one that townreads Joey gives any good reason for doing so and b) Joey has no actual insight into the game tells me that something is off.

[TwoInAMillion]

Rhah to be honest you criticizing lucky's content is pot to kettle.

[TwoInAMillion]

Sorry vipmi that you had to replace scum.

[TwoInAMillion]

Typically when someone replaces out when they are being wagoned isn't it because they are scum that don't want the loss to count against their "record"?

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm not so sure that Gerry's not town. There are other reasons for players to be less than active other than being scum. We will start getting night action results eventually and those should clear some things up on some borderline players.

[TwoInAMillion]

Pretty much an OMGUS. The replacement is obvscum. Lynch please. If she had actually tried to evaluate other players before voting nemo I might have reconsidered.

[TwoInAMillion]

I love that that people insist that I am "obnoxious and wrong" on everything but I have yet to actually be wrong I have actually been right. Was right not to shoot Dunk and was right that Quick was town and was right that Cabd was town(obvious but still). Disagree with my posting style but you can't disagree with my results.

[TwoInAMillion]

If you think scum read scum correctly as often as town read scum correctly you are crazy.

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: Lucky

[TwoInAMillion]

Fair point.


VOTE: Viomi

[TwoInAMillion]

I love that that people insist that I am "obnoxious and wrong" on everything but I have yet to actually be wrong I have actually been right.

YOU FUCKING SPENT PAGES ACCUSING CABD OF BEING A BIZARRE MAFIA DAY KILL ROLE YOU IDIOT

I see you are picking up where Joey left off on taking the role of the immature brat.

It's called reaction testing. I knew Cabd wasn't being 100% truthful, but I said in thread that he was town. What role we think he does or doesn't have doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things on day 1.

[TwoInAMillion]

Why is everyone so intent on flub or whiskers?

[TwoInAMillion]

Scum is really hell bent on making sure the wagons are divided. Which is a great scum strategy.

[TwoInAMillion]

I could go for Nuaci.

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: Nauci

[TwoInAMillion]

It's called a compromise lynch.

[TwoInAMillion]

We don't have enough for a lynch unless some of the lurkers come in and vote on a leading wagon.

[TwoInAMillion]

Nauci trying to clear Joey and Viami is very scummy.

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: Flubbernugget

I think he's town, but in the interest of avoiding a no lynch.

[TwoInAMillion]

Isn't he at L3?

[TwoInAMillion]

L2, sorry.

[TwoInAMillion]

Also your reads, please.

[TwoInAMillion]

Obvscum=h s t, lucky And naomi

[TwoInAMillion]

Viomi

[TwoInAMillion]

No we need a lynch

[TwoInAMillion]

I haven't seen any convincing evidence of whiskers>flub

[TwoInAMillion]

They are probably both town tbh.

[TwoInAMillion]

Joey "liked" anyone who thought he was town.

[TwoInAMillion]

maybe.

[TwoInAMillion]

Whiskers would not be my first choice but whatev.

[TwoInAMillion]

From Scummiest to towniest.

1. Viomi
2. Lucky
3. HST
4. Whiskers

[TwoInAMillion]

and I would put Nauci at #5

[TwoInAMillion]

Well if we can agree on who to listen to and who not to listen to we might actually get something done.

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: Lucky2u

[TwoInAMillion]

UCV was largely lurking day 1 and that, combined with Lucky's refusal to join a major wagon day 2, seems like obv scum to me in the current fractured environment.

Viomi would be the other ideal lynch.

[TwoInAMillion]

Whiskers, don't self vote please.

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm considering it if you don't start playing better.

I think you're town based on the wagons against you.

[TwoInAMillion]

Scum is driving the Whiskers wagon, to me, so no.

[TwoInAMillion]

votecount 2.3

Whiskers (4) - Nero Cain, AxleGreaser, I Am Innocent, Flubbernugget
Lucky2u (4) - TwoInAMillion, Rhah, Joey_, gerryoat

Flubbernugget (3) - beeboy, HolySpiritTurtle, MathBlade

Not voting (4) - Shiro, Lucky2u, Whiskers, Nauci

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. Deadline is November 1, 03:00 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-01 03:00:00).

Shiro is V/LA until October 25.

Axle and IAI, maybe Nero.

[TwoInAMillion]

I have been on and actively denounced the town wagons.

[TwoInAMillion]

I have not been on rather

[TwoInAMillion]

Ok so MB is town, cool.

[TwoInAMillion]

Nauci is just trying to discredit me for some reason(probably scum). All of my reads have been correct.

[TwoInAMillion]

Lucky is not town. We need to lynch that today. If you are town you need to fall in line.

[TwoInAMillion]

Lucky is not town. We need to lynch that today. If you are town you need to fall in line.

Humor me TIAM, address my critique of your vote.

I don't see a critique, and even if there is one it is crap.

[TwoInAMillion]

And...?

We still need to lynch lucky.

[TwoInAMillion]

I don't think scum "have a commanding lead." There are no scum lyches yet but one scum lynch today will even things up pretty quick. And I think town is closing in on the scum by poe.

[TwoInAMillion]

Also I don't see how HST was "read" matters after he flips town.

[TwoInAMillion]

stop the wifom already.

[TwoInAMillion]

This is the biggest plurality we've had for a lynch since the game began. We don't want to wait until the final day this time, trust me.

[TwoInAMillion]

Hell I could make the point HST had the scumteam nailed.

HST was a nullkill

.HST was believed a infinite shot informed townie who knew all the scums.

I think this Math telling us why they shot HST. I feel like sandwiching a believable scenario between two very unlikely ones has the purpose of discrediting their own points so it looks like nothing said is true when in fact the truth

IS

stuck in there. I don't really feel like pulling quotes or anything b/c it would take too much effort but I was in a game that we lost and in the end game Math came in and was like "I taught player X the null kill." So we know Math uses null kill theory and even though this is Math using this as a theoretical argument I think Math is truth-telling here.

I mean Math is scum for other reasons too but yeah this is still scum.

Not a convincing argument.

+1 Math -1 Nero

[TwoInAMillion]

Current reads:

TwoInAMillion
Rah
Whiskers
Gerrygoat
Mathblade

Shiro
beeboy
AxleGreaser
IAmInnocent

NeroCain
Nauci
Viomi
Lucky2u

[TwoInAMillion]

Yeah this is Math scum. I've said about two or 3 times that that buddying up to the "masons" was scummy as fuck. Math keeps ignoring it to keep up the discredit.

Is it better to attack your townbuddies?

[TwoInAMillion]

@thread

about Gerry.

Spoiler: latest outstanding questions with no answers, and apparently no intention of answering or being held accountable.

@Gerry

back in 3359 I asked you number of questions that you have chosen to ignore.
I have made them harder to ignore.

Question 1

referring to Gerry's3144 Gerry said

all those show certainty, so that read by axle is bullshit

If you were so certain.

Why so easily persuaded onto whiskers?

Question 2

If you were so certain.

VOTE: whiskers

okay you sold me

and if it >

truthfully

< sold you.
Then scum reading whiskers now would also be your read.

1. All of it sold me, but I don't want to change anymore. I want to follow my reads

Why if it sold you was Whiskers not then your read?
Are you agreeing that the claim it sold you was a lie?

Question 3

When the vote count was 2080 WHisk(4) Flubb(4) UCV(2)
If you were, as certain, as you claim to have been.

i just want day 1 to be over tbh.

VOTE: flubber

Why did you just want the day to be over

rather than try to get your "all those show certainty,"(3145) scum read lynched?
Deadline was still at that point several days away.

and then you seemed entirely flippant about who you lynched.

I Do Not Like This Wagon.

ok then i'll join another wagon VOTE: whiskers

What looked so good about the wagon?

That lucky wagon looks so good

It looks to me like you want wagon where no one will ask you why you are on it.
Especially not ask you for more than empty largely reasonless statements such as those listed in 3144

latest example of thumbing of nose at playing for town at all

will we finally lynch lucky? find out next time on dragon ball z

So how is Gerry's play scum motivated?
Playing without accountability to maximise flexibility to do anything he wants. No actual evidence of him trying to figure the game out.
Just a willingness to vote whatever has the lowest levels of accountability.

and where did this Flubber vote come from?

So why is everyone voting flubber now?

I read and still don't get it

i just want day 1 to be over tbh.

VOTE: flubber

VOTE: gerryoat << intention to lynch

I am assuming there is more content coming from Gerry later on. If not he will be a lynch candidate.

[TwoInAMillion]

Rhah if you join me on Lucky, I'll vote anyone you want from my blue or red list tomorrow.

[TwoInAMillion]

Self vote gambit isn't town anyway. The whole idea that Whiskers voted themselves because a full force Whiskers wagon was inevitably being pushed and the gamestate couldn't advance without it really falls apart when you see how unlikely that was to actually happen.

Trust me, Whiskers is town, just like flub was town. Whiskers is just playing bad.

We need to work as a team here.

[TwoInAMillion]

It's because the people you are attacking, gerry/whiskers/math, are all probtown.

[TwoInAMillion]

Math isn't being given townpoints for putting stock into the clear, so that doesn't matter.

I don't see a town Math argue that Flubb is scum b/c "OMG counterwagon!" but the same doesn't apply to Whiskers.

Dissonance like that comes from town at times.

Self vote gambit isn't town anyway. The whole idea that Whiskers voted themselves because a full force Whiskers wagon was inevitably being pushed and the gamestate couldn't advance without it really falls apart when you see how unlikely that was to actually happen.

Trust me, Whiskers is town, just like flub was town. Whiskers is just playing bad.

We need to work as a team here.

Ideally we need a scum flip today. It's not like I'm completely boycotting Lucky but it's bad to strongarm a lynch after we just Flubber'd.

Town needs leadership. Lack of leadership is the reason for the last two townlynches.

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm also buying Whiskers point (since she sold it to me real cheap) that Math's scumhunting is less than stellar.

like, look at the vote on Flubb "oh he was overtaken by Quick. Must be scum!" nothing about his play.

naked vote on Luckey with a promise to explain it later but hasn't done so.

Not sure who Math voted d1 but I'm sure it was trash too.

We need to stop attacking the people who are voting/playing bad and actually lynch the scum.

[TwoInAMillion]

I don't care what he is as long as he votes for scum. If he is bussing/buddying it will be apparent later.

[TwoInAMillion]

Lurked day 1
Wouldn't join a major wagon day 2.
Not doing anything productive day 3.

[TwoInAMillion]

So... let's talk about the Shiro situation

I'd be down for a Shiro lynch.

Shiro is town, gotcha

[TwoInAMillion]

Lynching flubber was preferable to a no lynch. And you doing seem to be doing any scum hunting still.

[TwoInAMillion]

Math wants to lynch ScumLucky.

[TwoInAMillion]

Quick (9) - Whiskers,

UC Voyager

,

Nauci

, Flubbernugget, AxleGreaser, gerryoat,

Nero Cain

, beeboy,

Joey_

[TwoInAMillion]

There's not, just better candidates right now imho.

[TwoInAMillion]

Not if you're his scumbuddy.

[TwoInAMillion]

Because someone has to be scum, and the people leading the wagons haven't made the right decision yet.

[TwoInAMillion]

I don' know why people sign up for large normals and then replace out because it is "too hard to follow".

[TwoInAMillion]

Nope. Rolefishing is rolefishing.

[TwoInAMillion]

Nope. Rolefishing is rolefishing.

Is it rolefishing when he's hard claimed masons and we're asking for a counterclaim?

Yep.

[TwoInAMillion]

he is, as long as gerry's vote carries over.

[TwoInAMillion]

All you need to know is that the scum team is Lucky, Viami, Nauci, and Nero. Maybe one other person. We lynch those guys in that order and we have a town win.

[TwoInAMillion]

I love you too.

[TwoInAMillion]

Apparently I don't have the street cred that some players have so people are going to try to use that to scum's advantage to avoid the correct lynch. But don't fall for it.

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: nauci

[TwoInAMillion]

Me too, all of my scumreads(Lucky, Nero, Viomi) have yet to vote for it.

[TwoInAMillion]

He is being very adversarial, very defensive, trying to discredit obvtown, and his reads suck.

[TwoInAMillion]

no, I'm still mostly town reading Quick.

vote:Quick

Someone hammer this worthless piece of shit.

Also I don't like this from Nero at the end of day one.

[TwoInAMillion]

I think people confuse my reads with not being "well reasoned" with me not liking to wall post. My play style may not fit with the site meta but I think I worth listening to because I actually put in effort and have a good record.

[TwoInAMillion]

What's your record with math in games you've played with him Transcend?

[TwoInAMillion]

Why are you crossing off Nero?

[TwoInAMillion]

What's your record with math in games you've played with him Transcend?

well i personally think i'm good at ID'ing their alignment but they're terrible at ID'ing mine.

if i've been town in a game with them, most of the time i've been mislynched by them.

You can't give specific examples?

[TwoInAMillion]

We'll have to agree to disagree.

[TwoInAMillion]

Tell me how female tells and male tells are different please.

[TwoInAMillion]

The "guys and girls have different alignment tells" did not come off as sarcastic to me, but I could be wrong.

[TwoInAMillion]

I think the instinct is for guys to be easier on girls, not that they have different tells. A lot of people believe that girls are more intuitive and empathetic, and thus maybe better at reading people, so maybe they might have more value. Also the male/female online ratio probably magnifies this. But logically I think a lot of this is a fallacy more than helpful in winning games.

[TwoInAMillion]

I think the instinct is for guys to be easier on girls, not that they have different tells. A lot of people believe that girls are more intuitive and empathetic, and thus maybe better at reading people, so maybe they might have more value. Also the male/female online ratio probably magnifies this. But logically I think a lot of this is a fallacy more than helpful in winning games.

Trust me the internet trend is *not* to be nicer to women.

I was talking about mafiascum, not the internet in general. I would like to think that mafiascum is better behaved than the internet at large.

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: viomi

[TwoInAMillion]

There's 2 days left. I feel like today's lynch is between Lucky and Viomi. We don't want to wait until the last minute again.

[TwoInAMillion]

Lucky and Viomi are not widely townread.

[TwoInAMillion]

Because scum like to townread other scum?

[TwoInAMillion]

Do people really trust the people on the MB wagon? Viomi or Nauci is much better.

[TwoInAMillion]

Joey not targeting Cabd is a definate scumtell. Viomi's ATE is a scumtell.

I don't want to lynch claimed power roles but in this case I'd rather lynch a claim power roll than have a probable townie have to claim. The only other lynches I am interested in is Nero, you and Lucky.

[TwoInAMillion]

Grasping at straws much?

[TwoInAMillion]

Because there is nothing to think that I am helping scum, aside from you disagreeing with me because I am scum reading you.

[TwoInAMillion]

How many lynches do I need to be right about before people trust my judgement?

[TwoInAMillion]

Well to be fair we've had no red flips

But i like where your head is sans NC.

Not because of me.

[TwoInAMillion]

...why do you town read flairs

Because I am comfortable on my scum reads.

[TwoInAMillion]

Flairs is on my in between list(not town, not scum)

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: Nauci

[TwoInAMillion]

Nero was already a vote

[TwoInAMillion]

Well, that sucked. Nauci was town AND I lost my mason partner? I need to reevalute things.

[TwoInAMillion]

Of course, this is probably my last day alive.

[TwoInAMillion]

Well it's kind of stupid not to right?

[TwoInAMillion]

My gut says scum-nero. He is acting very wishy washy, not trying to townhunt, etc.

[TwoInAMillion]

I would not trust him as town leader.

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: Assemble for now. But we have to have night results eventually right?

[TwoInAMillion]

MB does not seem like a town jk move.

[TwoInAMillion]

Also we have to think about massclaiming at some point.

[TwoInAMillion]

Yeah but it's still pretty much necessary to lynch scum.

[TwoInAMillion]

I vote for massclaim.

[TwoInAMillion]

not necessarily.

[TwoInAMillion]

We really have no other night results?

[TwoInAMillion]

votecount 1-2.27 (final)

Quick (9) - Whiskers, UC Voyager, Nauci, Flubbernugget, AxleGreaser, gerryoat, Nero Cain, beeboy, Joey_

Flubbernugget (5) - HolySpiritTurtle, MathBlade, Rhah, Quick, Cabd
Whiskers (1) - I Am Innocent
UC Voyager (1) - TwoInAMillion

Not voting (1) - Shiro

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch. Deadline is October 23, 15:00 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-10-23 15:00:00).

Nauci is V/LA until October 23. Shiro is V/LA until October 25.

votecount 2.16 (final)

Flubbernugget (8) - HolySpiritTurtle, Whiskers, Viomi, Rhah, MathBlade, TwoInAMillion, gerryoat, Flubbernugget

Whiskers (3) - I Am Innocent, Nero Cain, Lucky2u
Lucky2u (1) - Nauci
gerryoat (1) - AxleGreaser

Not voting (2) - Shiro, beeboy

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. Deadline is November 1, 03:00 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-01 03:00:00).

MathBlade is V/LA until October 31. beeboy is V/LA indefinitely.

votecount 3.19 (final)

Nauci (7) - Flairs, Nero Cain, Transcend, I Am Innocent, Lucky2u, TwoInAMillion, Whiskers

MathBlade (2) - Smocaine, Viomi
Viomi (1) - MathBlade
Whiskers (1) - Rhah
Smocaine (1) - AxleGreaser
Flairs (1) - Nauci

Not voting (0) -

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is November 9, 21:10 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-09 21:10:00).

Viomi is V/LA indefinitely.

[TwoInAMillion]

1. MathBlade Alisae
2. Transcend Shiro*
3. I Am Innocent**
4. Nero Cain
5. Dunkerdoodles
6. Rhah
7. AxleGreaser
8. HolySpiritTurtle*
9. Flubbernugget
10. Flairs beeboy
11. cabd
12. Lucky2u UC Voyager
13. Assemblerotws Viomi Joey_
14. Smocaine gerryoat
15. Whiskers
16. Quick
17. Nauci
18. TwoInAMillion

[TwoInAMillion]

Looks like Whiskers is the only one on all three wagons ftr.

[TwoInAMillion]

Assemble>Smocaine>MathBlade

[TwoInAMillion]

Math is the only one I'm confidant on, and Axle is admittadly omgus because after yesterday's lynxh I feel pretty townie.

You "feel" pretty townie? I would think you would know.

[TwoInAMillion]

Whiskers has been on every town wagon.

VCA means nothing anymore?

[TwoInAMillion]

Hey guys I'm mastina

We can

vote:I Am Innocent

to save the mod from having to replace him.

town

Where hi guys.

scum?

Hi cabd

normie hating loli loving sk

VOTE: Nero cain trying to pick off a player that can't defend themselves

scum?

VOTE: I Am Innocent

Cause wagoning is fun and rvs isn't.

town

VOTE: Cabd for not voting.

Bring it.

town

Sup?

scum

Hi gif

normie hating loli loving sk

VOTE: Cabd


hey...its that person

town?


Oh yeah BTW I'm a macho miller

Yes, Alisae claimed Miller

Obviously you didn't look at the flips.

[TwoInAMillion]

I have a hard time believing there is a miller in a game with this many VTs.

[TwoInAMillion]

[quote="In post 23, Alisae"


Oh yeah BTW I'm a macho miller[/quote]

So she was joking here?

[TwoInAMillion]

Wow, I'm actually alive. Gonna need to do some VCA against MathBlade.

[TwoInAMillion]

lulz this town so dumdum

VOTE: Smocaine

Scum claimers get votes

VOTE: Viomi

VOTE: Smocaine

For emphasis

gerryoat, MathBlade, and TwoInAMillion need to view Gerry's actions through the lens that he is town. I'm sure they'll connect the dots.

I'm more concerned that you said yourself need to look at your own actions like you're town. Like you replaced gerryoat.

So then why would you need a different lens?

VOTE: gerryoat

(I still think lucky is scum btw as well just this needs pursuing)

VOTE: Lucky2u

Will explain after work it's like 3 am here.

VOTE: Flubbernugget

Flubbernugget and Lucky are both great lynches.

Jfc #3154 is scummy as all shit. Can I get a second opinion on that one?

VOTE: Lucky

How's that for a second opinion?

I have to go to work but the opening Whiskers votes are clearly scum motivated. Flubber was clearly the counter wagon to Quick, doing a VCA late tonight should also help us net another.

VOTE: Flubber

Is that vote an indication the strength of you read went up?

this wording seems weird to me. I also didn't like his claiming a non-normal role but not explaining why he did so and I can't think of a town motivation reason why he'd do that.

Can't think of a scum one either. Ugh

Reads like he wants to paint Cabd as scum but then can't think of a way to do it.

VOTE: Flubber

Quick summary of MB's voting history.

[TwoInAMillion]

MB has voted for:
Smocaine
Viomi
Gerry
Lucky
Flubber

MB Hasn't Voted For:
Transcend
IAmInnocent
NeroCain
AxleGreaser
Flairs
Assemblerotws
Whiskers
TiaM

VOTE: Assemblerotws

[TwoInAMillion]

It's not useless. It's someplace to start.

[TwoInAMillion]

Yes I am in favor of a massclaim, but I doubt it will get anywhere.

[TwoInAMillion]

I am more in favor of a Assemble lynch than a massclaim. I am fine either way.

[TwoInAMillion]

This is the most significant vote quote from MB. It's obvious he was trying to appear town.

I'm more concerned that you said yourself need to look at your own actions like you're town. Like you replaced gerryoat.

So then why would you need a different lens?

[TwoInAMillion]

Transcend your vote is in the wrong spot. Smocaine is obvious scum here. Like I will case smocaine out when I am sober but he should like get all the votes.

MB strongly pushed smocaine here. Probably means smocaine is town.

[TwoInAMillion]

Also I don't think MB would ask scum Transcend to move his vote, so Transcend is probably town.

[TwoInAMillion]

Fun fact:

Smocaine died

On yeah, sorry. Forgot that flip. Submersed in my thread analysis, sorry.

[TwoInAMillion]

We are at day 5. At what point will it benefit town to know your role?

[TwoInAMillion]

I think it's safe to assume that scum have at least 1 power role, yes?

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: Lucky2u

Lynch all liars. You just said it would only benefit scum to know your role.

[TwoInAMillion]

Ok, I think me, Transcend and Nero is a safe townblock at this point.

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: Lucky2u

Lynch all liars. You just said it would only benefit scum to know your role.

yea, it only benefits scum to know I am vanilla. by not knowing what I am, I become a night kill possibility for them to be hunting town PRs, why do you think smocaine died instead of you? You are not a threat, hidden town PRs are the threat.

Then why kill Rhah?

[TwoInAMillion]

Let's just lynch lucky, please.

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: Lucky2u

Lynch all liars. You just said it would only benefit scum to know your role.

yea, it only benefits scum to know I am vanilla. by not knowing what I am, I become a night kill possibility for them to be hunting town PRs, why do you think smocaine died instead of you? You are not a threat, hidden town PRs are the threat.

Then why kill Rhah?

Two masons as the pool shrinks is not good. One mason is just fine, especially if they have you in their pocket.

FTR, I wasn't in MB'd pocket, I was just going along with the buddying. And we(Rhah and I) were both against the MB lynch at the time.

[TwoInAMillion]

L2U is responding to pressure poorly.

[TwoInAMillion]

This is the gamestate as I see it:
Flipped Town:
Dunk
Quick
Cabd
Flub
HST
Nauci
Rhah

Townblock:
Tiam
Transcend
Nero

Flipped Scum:
MathBlade

Unknown:
IaI
Axle
Flairs
Assemble
Whiskers

[TwoInAMillion]

Smocaine also on flipped town.

[TwoInAMillion]

Weak vote. L2U -1.

[TwoInAMillion]

Probably.

[TwoInAMillion]

Nero, here you say:

Well, I just really don't think lucky is scum. Any of the other 3 wagons are fine.

What has changed your mind?

[TwoInAMillion]

to be fair Assembler and L2U are both super scummy, it's just an issue of which one to lynch.

[TwoInAMillion]

Axle is tough to read for me so I'm not ready to add him anywhere yet.

[TwoInAMillion]

It could be Lucky/Assemble/Whiskers...game.

[TwoInAMillion]

Assembler is scum because

- His stance on Math being scum was due to a fake claim that Alisae made as a meme

No, it fucking wasn't. I wasn't able to go into it, but the scumread was based off the slot's general track record in this game, as well as comparing it to other games where I'd already seen Math flip.

Anyway, let me reinforce Viomi's eventual claim for targets. Joey targeted beeboy N1, Viomi targeted Nero Cain N2, I went for Math N3, and TIAM was my N4 target.

I agree with axle here. It seems odd to have jailkept math, and then voted him the next day. It's not impossible for your slot, I just don't like any target it's chosen so far this game.

He said specifically he jk mb because he thought he was scum. So why wouldn't he vote for him?

[TwoInAMillion]

4 scum is a reasonable assumption for this setup.

FOS: Flairs

[TwoInAMillion]

We still have 5 days to decide on who to lynch, but lucky is the obvious choice to me. I would also be okay with IaI or maybe assemble.

[TwoInAMillion]

I think for assemble not to be scum Transcend AND Axle would have to be scum and I don't think that's very likely.

VOTE: Assemblerotws

[TwoInAMillion]

Because of how hard you and Axle are pushing Assemble.

[TwoInAMillion]

twiddles thumbs.

[TwoInAMillion]

Unfortunately none of the lynches were easy choices and town made all the wrong ones.

[TwoInAMillion]

Honestly tiam made it a nightmare to play, tons of people ended up being obvious town including turtle, lucky, nauci, beeboy and even nero was was his town self for most of the game even if his reads were 2 standard deviation worse than a coinflip. What a shitshow

I'm going to be the bigger person here and not engage.