Mafia 75: Return of the Mafia! TOWN WINS (really late)

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Hi guys!

Wow, I think this is my first game with a Cult. Good thing we got 'em first night though.

30 is a big number for me...

Random vote time,

Vote: Matt_S

because there is a person at my school with the same name...weird...

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Am I wrong in saying that it is BM's playstyle to claim absurd things and act scummy?

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Khelvaster, I was simply asking a question, in no way indicating my opinions toward BM. I haven't played too many games with BM, and I was wondering if that was true.

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BM: Thanks for answering.

The eeny meeny argument was somewhat pointless, as it first came up as a randomish vote.

Rosso Carne: "Personally murdered"? Is that saying you are able to kill people?

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It feels as though it may have been a slip or something. Take everything seriously in Mafia.

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Sorry, I've been very busy, as usual

Rosso Carne explained, though his latest post is somewhat suspicious. I agree with QuickBen.

Also, I'm wondering if the cult recruiter attempted to recruit antagonistics, or would that death be delayed as well?

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I realize I've been a bit busy, so I will do something similar to TNE's 2scum-2town

Battle Mage- It is a bit difficult to differentiate between a miller and mafia without their death. I think it would be safest, IMO, for the possible vig to kill him, although maybe a cop should investigate? I don't really see a good situation in which an innocent should cliam miller, but Idk, this is BM.

Thenextepisode-I'm not quite sure I see the point about TNE's play, but what really caught my eye is that he didn't put himself as one of the two town. Fishy fishy...

Town

skitzer-because clearly, I know I am.

CKD-I'm agreeing with TNE because he has been rather contributive, and its not fluff either.

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I find Nanosuromo's lynch setup scummy only because there are other people suspicious of BM, so singling one out is not effective.

FoS: Nanosauromo

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I will make a bigger post later, I need to reread what happened over the long weekend for me.

People actually know me? Yay.

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Hmmm...after skimming threw since I last read, I just think a killa seven bandwagon is the thing to do. I don't think we should make such a big commotion about the crack/break thingy. And with that,

vote: killa seven

I just want to feel out the players and see the reaction I get.

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Methinks Tlp is a better lynch. Plus the fact that he didn't answer the question, he unvoted and said he didn't want a lynch. (?)

unvote, vote tlp

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I did not feel that was a copycat move. I pointed out that tlp contradicted himself.

CKD: who are you referring to? me or tlp?

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So your saying you've breadcrumbed your role?

Don't claim just yet, there's a decent bandwagon, but I don't think you should claim just yet.

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I whish to know why I am scummy.

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Oh. Thanks for clarification.

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I whish to know why I am scummy.

You usually look scummie because you make peoples hurt hurt with the logic you posses.

I possess harmful logic?

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I lurve MafiaScum. It's a place where you can be insulted and still love it.

I'll try to make this game tolerable, farside

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viola. rofl.
I think im filling the role of Grammar Nazi in this game.

BM

I'm the Grammar Nazi Nazi
a viola is a string instrument. Voila is the correct spelling...

tee hee.

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unvote

until this game gets sober again.

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Popular Lynch ideas I see most likely to be scum: tlp, Lloyd, and WhoMe?

Popular Lynch ideas I see most unlikely to be scum: Charity and TSN

just my opinion. Therefore, for now, I'm going back to

vote: tlp

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Well, Killa Seven's first post seems like a way to validate his somewhat lurkiness, and then from there, most of his points consist of either 1 sentence retorts that make no sense if you just read his posts, or a quote and then a restating or maybe a minor tweakage of facts. Now, from my point of view, not scum hunting isn't a scum tell to me (I've been incorrectly lynched for it), so it doesn't really hit me. I'm just not sure why we're are so much focus on him.

Originally I had my vote on tlp, and I just took it off because the game had gone a little crazy. I see Charity and TSN as a wrong lynch due to their current playstyles.

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My wordage is in

pretty green, and bolded

Im sorry. Ill be a bit more specific. Ill quote posts of his which I find scummy, and you can do your best to explain them away. Then i'll explain why i think they are scummy, which means my opinions go down on paper aswell-its a Win-Win

1.

alright, issue solved.

the next person who talks about the cult recruiter as if its going to help the town to do so is going to be personally murdered.

so your basically saying your either scum or a sk? and you can kill someone..

vote rosso carne

I believe I thought the exact same thing, but then I played with rosso in another game and realized this was just his playstyle. Therefore, I don't find this very scummy.

2.

. Right now, he is a contributing, pro-town player. He's almost confirmed himself as town by claiming miller straight-off.

eh not entirely true making miller vlaims doesnt mean you arent realy scum. btw i dont think hes scum i was just pointing that out

Hmm...is it contradictory. But could explain how exactly you find that scummy, because I'm not exactly sure I get it.

3.

Farside. vote for Killa 7 plz.

kthxbai

Okay

Unvote: Vote Killa seven

wow this is a earie post.. sum buddies? and why did u pick me from the bandwagon.. u vote hope more than anyone else in this game bm.. smh

This seems like a mixture of OMGUS and not realizing sarcasm and cheek. This is probably the most scummy out of the three.

Those 3 will do for now. I'll leave the other posts which are merely exhibitions of lurking in plain sight, as you have already acknowledged them.

BM

I'm sorry I didn't do that. I'm just not a fan of those types of posts. It makes me want to throw up knowing that I just made one.

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I'm going to keep my vote on tlp for now, but I think he may be replaced soon. (?)

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Not vig.

I'm still wanting to hear from a Tlp replacement and then maybe switch my vote.

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hey Xtoxm, we hope you're well,
Welcome to the greatest game!
But sadly now, its my role to tell,
that we all await your claim!

Edited for better rhyming properties.

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hey Xtoxm, we hope you're well,
Welcome to the greatest game!
But sadly now, its my role to tell,
that we all await your claim!

Edited for better rhyming properties.

Skitzer, you rock!

Ya I know.

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I would hope so, with as many kills we've had. We've seen that there is a possibility of five, maybe more even?

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Well, it's avery slight possibilty, but...

Mafia
SK
2 vigs (neither farside or killa is lying)

oh...that is 4. I can't count, still, I'd hope there is a doctor.

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EBWOP: also, if the cult had a kill that would make 5.

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Wait, correct me if I'm wrong, but don't we have 3 claimed vigs now?

farside22
killa seven
Lloyd

They all claimed. Now if this is true, that means we would've had a possibility of 6 kills on the first night.

Mafia
SK
Cult
3 Vigs

Let me tell you something. Someone is lying.

FoS: killa seven

FoS: farside22

FoS: Lloyd

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Oh. Well, by doing that confusing some people, he is not helping the game.

I thought by vigge, he was saying vig in Old English Speak.

*facesalp*

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I believe Rosso Carne is a good lynch for today. He's not really playing similar to any other games I've played wit him, which minorly fuels the fire.

Vote: Rosso Carne

Nemesis: can you consolidate your big quotey posts? I never really get any information from long quote posts. They just make me mad.

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Yes, loving Mother BM.

Unvote

temporarily.

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I like making posts that make people smile.

I also like making posts that make people rip their hair out and give it to charities. So generous.

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I want to know why people are against the Rosso lynch.

I'm holding off my vote because I'm not quite sure where it's standing now.

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On the poisoning: I was in a game where the Mafia had a poisoner, but it was delayed. So, saying that the cult recruit was a poisoner, they may have been recruited night 0, notified of recruitment and poisoned someone night 1, and their first victim died and they poisoned another last night.

Also, BM is looking very scummy today.

FoS: BM

tonight's the night the vig should get 'em, if we don't lynch him first.

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I think claimed power roles should work with the town, rather than guessing alone.

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I believe tarh's read on me is incorrect. It seems as though he is trying to randomly pick someone and hopefully convince the town to lynch me, while detracting attention from other suspects...

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Sorry for my inactivity...I'm gonna take a look at Toaster Strudel. But for the time being, my suspicions stay on Battle Mage.

In my opinion, it is painfully obvious that Battle Mage is some sort of anti town character. But I'm hesitant to place a vote, because we thought the same about Rosso Carne, and look where that got us...

Anyway, on to my reread. Cheers!

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OK, I lied, I did more of a quick skim-over than a reread, but it gave me enough info. I don't think Toaster Strudel is anti-town. Except for a few contradictory statements in the middle, about how Battle Mage is town because RC was, and then voting for him, instead, TS lead me to two other players:

Lloyd - There is something fishy about this character. I can just feel it.

VanDamien - I'm rereading him to see where the case to lynch him came from.

But...

Vote: Battle Mage

I think we know why.

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I'm not quite sure I understand the reasoning why you can't be either.

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Yes, but there is still that dreadful possibility that you are cult, and as long as that possibility remains...well, your the main suspect for that.

Poison did not show up until last night. Poison, which is likely a delayed method of death, would fit well with the delayed cult. Therefore, it is a very good possibilty that the cult member is still cult, and as BM being an experienced player, it is likely that the cult recruiter may have chosen him.

Yes, we have had this discussion. But not discussing it anymore doesn't make the cult member go away. It's not that simple.

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You liar. You're not a miller, your a rolecop. Now my role has been revealed to everyone. Good job.

In seriousness, if you are cult, getting rid of you gets rid of one kill, while a whole mafia team can be rid one person and still kill.

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ckd: everyone has been wrong. But sometimes, you are right. Maybe it is a smarter idea to "test" him tonight.

Unvote

[sarcasm]you gotta love me, I'm as swingy as 70s disco revival![/sarcasm]

Well, now I will focus my attention on Lloyd and VanDamien.

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Shoot, I forgot to answer your question, BM.

I don't need much to find you cult-y, it's basically all summed in your odd claim, Rosso Carne's role and investigations, and the stuff I mentioned earlier about poisoning.

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OK, dahill's wanting of a massclaim + me being his top suspect even with softclaims + his attempt at PBPA for himself just to earn vote immunity=

vote: dahill

Also, I think the above statement just made those softclaims harder.

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I am opposed to massclaim, pie, I don't like it because there are still many people, and this is a normal game anyway so I don't suspect many surprises.

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Just think it over during the night before doing anything. Even if I don't really know what BM's doing, I'm sure your patience will be rewarded.

I suggest we stop discussing the testing and start discussing who to make dead.

I support this product and/or service (is that meme worn out?)

Anyway, dahill might be scum, but I think there's a much better case for Toaster Strudel. Its time to lynch.

Unvote, vote Toaster Strudel.

I think I've used the last lines of the above post before when I was scum. It feels like TSN is trying to say, "Yes, of course dahill is my scum buddy, but let's lead the town to a mislynch and vote Toaster Strudel! Of course, I could be very wrong.

FoS: TheSweatpantsNinja.

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I think I've used the last lines of the above post before when I was scum. It feels like TSN is trying to say, "Yes, of course dahill is my scum buddy, but let's lead the town to a mislynch and vote Toaster Strudel! Of course, I could be very wrong.

So, you aren't certain that my uncertainty about dahill is a scumtell or not?

Obviously me, dahill, and skitzer are all scum.

What? This makes no sense. Is this somehow a joke? Because I'm not scum.

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he got replaced in another game, so I'm not so sure it's 100%

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i am 100% sure im town.

Note to self: vote killa seven tomorrow...this post is worthless.

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It was just kind of a sarcastic post. And the conversation wasn't really going anywhere. By now, I should be used to killa seven's type of play. Oh, but I'm not.

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OK. I'm sorry.

I know why Matt_S knows I'm town. Matt_S is incorrect on one point, though. There is a breadcrumb. It's not very obvious unless you know the whole of it.

On another entirely different note, what did BM's Drug Dealer role do? I'm kind of confused.

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I'm still here!

I will post something soon.

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I did an isolated readthrough on TheSweatpantsNinja:

Note: I read him in isolation so make sure you do the same, otherwise the post numbers won’t be the same:

Post 2: He says “30 players will make it very easy for

people

to skate through the game.” Why wouldn’t he just say scum?

Post 5: He says that he doesn’t have to post when he is pressuring lurkers himself. Contradictory maybe?

Post 8: He admits that he has been lurking, while he is pressuring lurkers as mentioned before.

Post 22: Says that lynching Lloyd is a good plan, when Lloyd was not one of his suspects early on and never mentioned him prior to this.

Post 70: (Long break in posts, I know, but I explain at the end in the part about the lynch of Rosso Carne) He does the infamous “toldja so” about Rosso Carne’s lynch.

Post 123: Another long break, I know, but unlike his position on Rosso Carne, he seems t slide from against the dahill lynch to actually voting for him.

Post 131: He says that it is not in a townie’s interest to get lynched, which is instinctively true, but for the good of the game, townies should be willing to sacrifice themselves for the good of the town, but only when appropriate.

I also thought about the lynch of Rosso Carne, which he was entirely against, but after thinking about it more, it just seems anti-town to not be on that lynch to me. I mean, sure, we were wrong, but there was so much convincing evidence that we thought it was right.

Conclusion:

FoS: TheSweatpantsNinja

although I can see some suspicions, I’m just not sure TSN is the lynch for today. Instead, I’m going to look elsewhere and do more isolated rereads.

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I have some spare time (forgot a folder for something at home) so I'm going to do another readthrough.

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Isolated readthrough of ThugBehram/Peers/Celebloki (in the same fomat as TheSweatpantsNinja)

Post 4 (Peers): He says that his vote on Battle Mage was because of a meta. I personally don’t agree with metas.

Post 17 (Peers): He hops on the killa seven pressure-wagon, this may sound hypocritical but I learned not to employ pressure-wagons, usually, they are not worthwhile. But in this case, I guess it was.

Post 34 (Peers): Unexplained vote. These are always notable.

Post 0 (Celebloki): Thinks BM was protown. Of course, I’m not sure either, but I don’t think he was protown.

Post 3 (Celebloki): Still doesn’t agree that BM was bad.

Post 5 (Celebloki): Earlier, he suspected Matt_S. Now, after Matt_S attacks him, he seems to focus directly on his other suspect, WhoMe?. This is definitely strange.

Post 6 (Celebloki): Not to be bias, but I hardly doubt Celebloki has never been lynched in any mafia game.

In conclusion: If I were just to do a reread of Peers, I would classify him as neutral. But Celebloki’s Post 5 and 6, but mainly Post 5, have convinced me for now.

Vote: Celebloki

I think I’m going to do more readthroughs, because I’m sure there are better cases out there.

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Unvote

I'm going to do another readthrough today.

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So you all accuse me of lurking, so I try to read through people and find cases on them, and when I do that, you accuse me of creating weak cases? I may not have had full attention on this game, but at least I'm making an effort to get back in.

Also, when I hear "Drug Dealer" I don't instinctively think "pro-town".

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I didn't say Celebloki's was the best case in the game. I just gave it as a starting point.

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I don't have much to say. It seems my readthroughs are pointless to all of you...

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You seem to be referring to a readthrough of the entire game.

I personally. find that pointless. I've been here the entire game, so I should very well know what has been going on. If anything, I should do a lynch vote analysis, because those are more informative to me than anything.

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Well, I got caught up in other stuff. But if you want, I'll do a readthrough of someone...

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Let me clarify:

A readthrough of the

entire

game is pointless to me, but reading people in isolation allows me to look more deeply into what they say.

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I meant as in readthrough one person.

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ckd, I don't usually know who I'm going to readthrough when I start. I look at people who catch my eye and I choose them. But I think I'm going to readthrough Imat/Konehead/whatever.

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I will have much more time after I send my HM game to Action Phase. I'm going to get that readthrough (of Imat, now that specifix matter) done.

Also, I have a weird scenario running through my head..If I think it is viable, I'll share it with you this afternoon.

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Here is my readthrough...

Posts 0-2 (Imat) - Very heavy on Lloyd. Also, In Post 1, he mentions something about editing, which I thought was prohibited in games.

Post 3 (Imat) - Softclaims Townie. It also seems like he is implementing that there aren’t many power roles in the game.

Post 8 (Imat) - uses the word “hounding” a lot, I know he is new to MS but still, hounding is an odd word choice.

Posts 15, 17, & 18 (Imat) - all have strange links to Khelvaster, who turned out to be Mafia Godfather.

Post 21 (Imat) - the fact that he hopes the game doesn’t fall apart may indicate that he has an interesting role. This is probably just me though.

Post 27 (Imat) - says his vote was just for pressure (skitzer is a hater of pressure votes)

Post 29 (Imat) - says that the wagon is useless now that TLP isn’t responding, but doesn’t unvote.

Post 32 (Imat) - finally unvotes 6 days afterward.

Post 37 (Imat) - an analysis of killa seven, into which he mixes many other people, such as Lloyd and whome.

Post 45 (Imat) - he seems very hesitant against killa seven (I’ve noticed this earlier), even when killa was a serial killer and we can assume that he had no relations to other roles.

Post 48 (Imat) - doesn’t want to reread what he missed. Boo on you.

Post 58 (Imat) - why did I get FoSed here when others have even voted me for

not

leading the vig.

Post 1 (Bogre) - agrees basically with what others have said.

Conclusion: …confusing…I see a lot of things on Imat, but I don’t know…It just doesn’t seem right.

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I'm going to analyze all the posts since I last posted.

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(3041, andersonw) States that he thinks Battle Mage is repeating the same arguments again and again. Wants to clear up the Tarhalindur/Matt_S scenario.
(3042, armlx) Asks what happened to the Tarhalindur/Matt_S scenario.
(3043, Andycyca) V/LA post
(3044, Matt_S) States that the scenario ended because Tarhalindur hasn’t been posting. He wanted to avoid the questions be brought up by this scenario as well.
(3045, Bogre) V/LA post
(3046, Battle Mage) Asks about andersonw’s Tarhalindur/Matt_S scenario, and his thoughts on armlx.
(3047, Battle Mage) States that what he’s asking and what armlx is asking about rereading is basically the same amount of reading.
(3048, armlx) Tells Battle Mage that there actually is a confrontation between Tarhalindur and Matt_S
(3049, Battle Mage) States that there is no confrontation because Matt_S is confirmed town and Tarhalindur is just lurking.
(3050, armlx) Tells Battle Mage to read Tarhalindur’s last posts.
(3051, Battle Mage) States sarcastically that Tarhalindurs last post wasn’t all that informative.
(3052, armlx) Tells Battle Mage that he said posts, not post.
(3053, Battle Mage) finally realizes the confrontation, and suggests that Tarhalindur claim instead of Matt_S.
(3054, killa seven) Asks why Matt_S is confirmed town.
(3055, Battle Mage) semi-avoids killa seven’s question by telling him to read.
(3056, andersonw) V/LA post.
(3057, killa seven) says that Matt_S isn’t confirmed
(3058, Matt_S) says that Battle Mage figured out his role. Says that we should lynch Celebloki, and if he is scum, TheSweatpantsNinja, and if he is scum, then killa seven.
(3059, killa seven) asks what Matt_S’s role is.
(3060, Matt_S) notes killa seven’s role fishing and doesn’t claim.
(3061, Tarhalindur) requests replacement and explains his confrontation with Matt_S.
(3062, armlx) states that Tarhalindur wanting replacement is lame.
(3063, Battle Mage) says that armlx’s last post was an attempt to distract the town.
(3064, Battle mage) suspects killa seven for his fishing and says he will meta him with earlier play tomorrow.
(3065, Battle Mage) asks Matt_S to vote armlx with him.
(3066, killa seven) says that Matt_S’s previous lynch of Rosso was wrong, so this case could be wrong as well.
(3067 and 3068, killa seven and Battle Mage) these posts confuse me. I think it has something to do with meta-ing, but I’m not sure.
(3069, JordanA24) Mod post.
(3070, Kaleidoscope) says that armlx is a good vote and votes him.
(3071, armlx) states that Rosso’s wagon was legitimate and refers to another game.
(3072, Battle Mage) agrees with armlx, but states that armlx should help more.
(3073, armlx) states that he was trying to help.
(3074, TheSweatpantsNinja) urges people to vote for WhoMe.
(3075, Battle Mage) attempts to make a deal with TheSweatpantsNinja.
(3076, Battle Mage) says that we should get a new replacement for Tarhalindur instead of trying to bring him back.
(3077, farside22) goes for Battle Mage’s deal.
(3078, Battle mage) acknowledges farside22’s vote.
(3079, armlx) agrees with battle mage, and questions why farside22 voted.
(3080, Toaster Strudel) says that he is keeping his vote on WhoMe, no matter what.
(3081, armlx) states that everyone did the same with dahill that Battle Mage is now attempting to do to armlx.
(3082, Matt_S) agrees with armlx.
(3083, curiouskarmadog) states that Battle Mage the first did this, but not Battle Mage 2.
(3084, armlx) states that it doesn’t matter which one did it, this is just a way of trying to get his opinion through.
(3085, curiouskarmadog) agrees with armlx and wonders why I am not on anyone’s radar.
(3086, killa seven) agrees with armlx and Matt_S on the dahill wagon.
(3087, armlx) asks curiouskarmadog for reasons about me.
(3088, curiouskarmadog) asks for clarification on what armlx wants.
(3089, armlx) states that he wants reasons why I am scummy.
(3090, Korlash) apologizes for lack of activity and says he will post something later.
(3091, TheSweatpantsNinja) says that he would rather lynch WhoMe, Toaster Strudel, me, or andersonw before lynching armlx.
(3092, killa seven) says sarcastically that TheSweatpantsNinja should vote armlx because Battle Mage said so.
(3093, armlx) says that Battle Mage thinks he scummy because he changed his mind on curiouskarmadog.
(3094, Korlash) states that Battle Mage’s play is good and that he doesn’t want a WhoMe or armlx lynch.
(3095, armlx) states that Korlash is wrong about Battle Mage’s play.
(3096, Battle Mage) suspects Toaster Strudel because she keeps her vote on WhoMe, which won’t actually lead to a lynch.
(3097, Battle Mage) says that Korlash is right about his play.
(3098, Battle Mage) probably misinterpreting this post but I think he’s saying that what armlx said about him getting his opnion through is true. I’m not quite sure…
(3099, Battle Mage) says that killa seven is mad because he got him as SK and that by following him, there is an increased chance of killing scum.

Stopping here for now. But, as if this point, I have a suspicion which I am comfortable to place a vote on, and one who should have more votes.

Vote: Korlash
FoS: Battle Mage

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I know I'm just parroting, I'm condensing the thoughts though so that I can see them easier. I'll analyze more when I'm finished.

I'll be pretty busy today, so I'll hopefully get at least 2 more pages worth done.

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This isn't Korlash's play style, right? Because I've played with him in another game, and this was NOT how he played.

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I've seen him attentive and proactive as town too.

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1. But I don't see how that matters. The point I'm trying to make currently is that his playstyle varies even more than you believe.

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My initial point was that I thought it was a different Korlash and was wondering why, now I see that it isn't and I was trying to say that it was also possible for an attentive Korlash to be town.

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It is true that WhoMe? has seemed to have given up...

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I guess...

Unvote, vote WhoMe

Now I have realized Korlash is not a good lynch.

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A weird thing I want to do now: How many posts each person has made, including replacements.

armlx (471)

skitzer (78)

Matt_S (218)

curiouskarmadog (207)

andersonw (23)

Andycyca (27)
replacing Fattierob (1)
Total: 28

Surye (21)
replacing thenextepisode (15)
Total: 36

Toaster Strudel (100)
replacing Incoginito (18)
Total: 118

killa seven (94)
replacing Antithesis (45)
Total: 139

farside22 (100)
replacing Nanosauromo (3)
Total: 103

Kaleidoscope (46)
(replacing GSGold) (7)
Total: 53

Tarhalindur (11)
replacing RossWilliam (20)
replacing Silver Conqueror (0)
Total: 31

Bogre (9)
replacing Imat (64)
replacing konehead (0)
Total: 73

Celebloki (17)
replacing Peers (37)
replacing ThugBehram (0)
Total: 54

Battle Mage (57)
replacing Xtoxm (173)
replacing jackalbane (13)
replacing oEJo (21)
Total: 264

Korlash (19)
replacing mnowax (4)
replacing UnofficialRulerOfEveryone (26)
replacing Quickben (5)
Total: 54

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ckd, I'm just looking at statistical information that occurs in every game...I started with post count, now I'm going to look at votes and vote counts to see if anything happens there.

Anyway, you can't really get anything from a post count except who is lurking and who isnt, and even then those lines are blurred because it's possible someone with a small vote count is able to pack lots of information into their posts.

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Vote: Celebloki

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ikolbelec :etoV

Just to be unique...

You already were.

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Isolated readthrough of ThugBehram/Peers/Celebloki (in the same fomat as TheSweatpantsNinja)

Post 4 (Peers): He says that his vote on Battle Mage was because of a meta. I personally don’t agree with metas.

Post 17 (Peers): He hops on the killa seven pressure-wagon, this may sound hypocritical but I learned not to employ pressure-wagons, usually, they are not worthwhile. But in this case, I guess it was.

Post 34 (Peers): Unexplained vote. These are always notable.

Post 0 (Celebloki): Thinks BM was protown. Of course, I’m not sure either, but I don’t think he was protown.

Post 3 (Celebloki): Still doesn’t agree that BM was bad.

Post 5 (Celebloki): Earlier, he suspected Matt_S. Now, after Matt_S attacks him, he seems to focus directly on his other suspect, WhoMe?. This is definitely strange.

Post 6 (Celebloki): Not to be bias, but I hardly doubt Celebloki has never been lynched in any mafia game.

In conclusion: If I were just to do a reread of Peers, I would classify him as neutral. But Celebloki’s Post 5 and 6, but mainly Post 5, have convinced me for now.

Vote: Celebloki

I think I’m going to do more readthroughs, because I’m sure there are better cases out there.

Plus the reasons of many others to agree with this.

Does that help, BM?

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I actually like this game.

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I function a little better now after that massive reread yesterday. In a little bit I'm going to give some of the people that I have gotten some serious scummy vibes from.

However, there's something that worries me some, and really gets me today with those sneaky votes.

The TOWN has managed to kill ONE scum - and that was K7 which wasn't all that hard. We really need to ALL start being a bit more vocal and find something to really push - some of these cases have been pretty ridiculous.

Now, logically, there is a good chance that Celeb IS scum (from his play / from the RB last night). However, there was some rapid and opportunistic voting around it - we damn well need to watch that because, at the current rate, it could very well be lylo really soon.

I'll be back in a bit with my suspects.

Please try to act less scummy and remember that we as the town do not know that it was a RB.

FoS: SpyreX

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Possibly. Who knows what it is? Celebloki could be a hider, but we've already been through hiders in this game WAY too many times. I'm just saying that there are more possibilities.

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I saw he was the last person to post in Little Italy when I was logging in.

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I will have limited access from August 1st to August 15th. Some days I know I wont have access, some days I will, and somedays I'm not quite sure yet. Here is a tentative schedule:

Red

= No Access

Yellow

= Possible Access

Green

= Definite Access

August 1st

August 2nd

August 3rd

August 4th-August 8th

August 9th

August 10th

August 11th-August15th

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Vote Bogre

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I think I did a reread of him somewhere and there was a case on his predecessors, but I'm too lazy to look it up right now.

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I don't like the TS logic in this game.

Therefore,

Vote: Toaster Strudel

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I don't like the TS logic in this game.

I don't believe I have made use of logic even once in this game, what are you talking about?

Exactly. No TS logic = Not a town TS.

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Unvote.

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Vote: Surye

, something wierd about his not-counterclaiming post.

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About your post, Surye: I don't think TS is trying to claim jailkeeper.

Why would you protect

and

roleblock the person who has a useful night action? It doesn't make sense to me.

I think she's claiming doctor.

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OK, heres what I'm thinking:

Toaster Strudel isn't the doctor. I think Korlash is a watcher that has been watching farside/vig and seeing if anyone targets her.

Now, no one cced TS's claim. So the doc would have to be someone inactive.

I think we get it from there.

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Surye please post in 82.

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Vote: TS

ckd: 82 is my game. I knew he was active, so I didn't want to replace him for a null reason.

By the way, the real answer is 42 fish.

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So it looks like the Tarh lynch may go through without my vote, I'm going to take some time and reread everyone who could be Mafia (SpyreX, ckd, and well, Tombolo...)

Surye is making me really uneasy.

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In Tarhalindur's plan, it says that we masons are confirmed due to the fact that there is way to many dead scum already for us to be scum as well.

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I'd definitely want to lynch Surye third, if we need to do so. Especially if tarh or ckd is Maf and the game has not concluded.

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Oops. I'm not the best with numbers.

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So in order of wishing to lynch:

Surye
ckd
Tarh

but if surye is telling the truth ONLY about the part that he is the cult person whatever, it makes more sense to lynch ckd or Tarhal.

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It says in our PMs that we are confirmed town.

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Okay. I went and looked at the first page, and I realized that we had killed FOUR Mafia.

I'm thinking that JordanA24 had thought that the Cult was going to last longer; so I'm guessing there is one, if any mafia left. Therefore, It seems best to

Vote Surye

, as it seems he is a)the last surviving cult member who is still cult-win or b) the last mafia goon, hiding under his cult/survivor role.

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It's possible. So I'm confused about your old role; there were two of you, in the same cult? Explain.

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That is so farfetched in a 30 player game and so unfun to play I can't see anyway you are telling the truth.

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Except, Grimmy...

Lynching Surye causes us to probably get rid of an anti-town role, which is better than gaining information in any circumstance.

FoS: Grimmy

Also, something doesn't link up correct with Tarhalindur's analysis. I think I read it incorrectly.

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This is so definitely not ckd lying.

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Awww, this game ended?

I was hoping for it to last a whole year.

Oh well, good game all.