Let's work with the Three C's then starting with me. You say that the JJ isn't a scum read, and you are mixed about the Chem wagon. Is there an Off-wagon you think should be spotlighted?In post 2291, Clover Ebi wrote:The reason I didn't vote JJH before is I don't really get scummy vibes from him, but a lot of my townreads are on him so I'm gonna trust their judgment. Chem being the counter wagon is confusing. Mostly because I can see both cases where Chem is lynchbait or the target bus.
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Not exactly a case (I'm assuming King Crimson erased a post like how he skips monologues)but I agree with bird and like this logic.In post 2282, jjh927 wrote:Chemist-
Something can only be "the worst of the bunch" in relation to other things.
How did you come to the conclusion that my vote was "the worst of the bunch" without looking at any of the other non-existent votes on your wagon? (Krazy seems to have counted Conspire voting for "misty" as a vote on you, but I'm not sure.)
In fact, I don't think you looked at the context of my vote on you either.
But the realisation that there weren't any other votes on you made you unvote, so this is supposed to be the dominant reason for your vote on me?
How does any of this make sense?
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How does people feel about making Chemist claim flavor? The odd messenger makes the claim complicated because otherwise we could just ask chem to message a pool of people to try and confirm the role over the night. Since Bingle's flavor, for example, aligned up well with the role he got, I think forcing a flavor claim wouldn't be the worse thing here.-
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I roleplayed as Krazy who after getting all these crazy picks saw this bland one. Naturally, he would consult the tablet of Google for guidance. Mainly because I would think the messenger part wouldn't make sense. But apparently:In post 2308, Chemist1422 wrote:
Literally just an owlIn post 2306, HoldenGolden wrote:Just Owl?
Nothing more nothing less?
Not a special kind of owl. Not a pokemon owl. Just owl?
I got choice paralysis and went with something simple
https://www.spiritanimal.info/owl-spirit-animal/The owl spirit animal is emblematic of a deep connection with wisdom and intuitive knowledge. If you have the owl as totem or power animal, you’re likely to have the ability to see what’s usually hidden to most.When the spirit of this animal guides you, you can see the true reality, beyond illusion and deceit. The owl also offers for those who have it a personal totem the inspiration and guidance necessary to deeply explore the unknown and the magic of life.
Symbolic meanings for the owl are:
Intuition, ability to see what others do not see
The presence of the owl announces change
Capacity to see beyond deceit and masks
Wisdom
The traditional meaning of the owl spirit animal is the announcer of death, most likely symbolic like a life transition, change
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Why Conspire over JJH?In post 2326, Birds and the Boys wrote:I think this claim is town. I'll check with my birds and bros about what they feel about it
The pool I am looking at it is {JJH, Farside, Clober Ebi, April, Conspire}
VOTE: Conspire
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I townread Mastina, so where do you think I'm wrong in this read?In post 2204, HoldenGolden wrote:2nd off, I don't really see the scum!Mastina read.
Rereading Day 1, despite her lack of presence in the thread, she backed herself into a really tight corner regarding Votato. While its not out of the question scum could of start bussing Votato day 1 sensing the pressure brought by slots like me, Mastina's stance highly limited any chance for Votato to survive both in her ability to support counter wagons and also fundamentally undermining the fake claim. Furthermore, when comparing the claim progression compared to other's who relied heavily on the claim to get a read off (for example, birds early to mid day 1 read) it doesn't explain the thought process in detail enough to provide wiggle room out of the read. Later posts such as citing Votato as the scum on PP doubt train also doubled down on this.
Since April has confirmed the presence of a RB (most likely scum), that also reassures me of town!mastina. According to April's plan and Gambit, Mastina was to be shot and cleaned by it. Considering this, I don't think scum would be willing to try and lose 2 members before EoD day 2 and would of rbed April out of safety. Now, this is assuming that scum doesn't have other ways to mitigate or heal KP, but it was a high risk situation given what we know so far about the suppose scum RB to not RB April-
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It was mainly to April. I'm not quite following the logic she proposed about bird being scum due to the mastina town read since it's a proxy read ("X is scum because of their read on Y and that doesnt make sense" vs "X is scum because of their read on Y which shows scum motivation Z, AZ, and BZ ways."
But in general if people disagree with my take and want to debate the points raised there too I'm down.
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I am. I'll fully claim.
1 shot vig confused miller. Shot was on bingle as previously mentioned. Flavour of vig KP isShot. I can claim flavour if needed.
Dont you have a list of confirm townies and are suppose to die due to role?
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Its 4 am. I'm not mentally here. My mind for some reason randomly thought back to this game after waking up with a bloody nose.
This bugs me. Obviously Krazy probably didnt actually count it, but my half awake brain realize so far there is only a possibility of 5 kills in a total day phase.Maximum players leaving the game in a single night: I believe the theoretical maximum number of players who could leave the game in a singleday/night is 7 (including lynch). This honestly could be off, I didn't double check it.
First, the lover body guards must be shot or lynched. It also must be an odd day since votato vig shot was odd only. Adding my vig shot and mafia fraction KP, that's only 5.
Lover lynched: 1
Lover suicide: 2
Votato kp: 3
My kp: 4
Mafia fractional kp: 5
Alright so what does this mean. It means 5=/=7.
Either krazy cannot count shit or there is a missing KP option out there. If it was 6 or 8 kp, i would feel better. But 5 is getting low. Unless I am missing something with BS's flavour vig shot interacting with another role to create the ability to deliver KP.-
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Yeah but not right now. Ik on crackhead mood on the teller so just wait ok? Ok. Lynch me if I donIn post 2482, Birds and the Boys wrote:I would like people's reads on farside/mastina/miss lynch (conspire).
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Didnt I ask you something like if you had more anti town options last day. Why didnt you respond to it.In post 2505, Clover Ebi wrote:I made everyone ninja last night you can relax. Was just waiting for your claim just to make sure April.
The last thingy. Is it anti town too-
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No, just shot things.In post 2531, April Ludgate wrote:“Flips may include kill flavor. While this may suggest the role behind the kill, some killing roles may be able to obscure or change their flavor. “
This actually might confirm Holden as scum because there’s been no occurrence of this?
@Holden - can you change your flavor?
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Donkey sheriff is like those old westerns with like cilt Eastwood and they go pow!In post 2533, April Ludgate wrote:
I’m aware. But why is Holden “shot”In post 2532, Dunnstral wrote:
Uh, remember when you tracked votato to someone who got drowned?In post 2531, April Ludgate wrote:“Flips may include kill flavor. While this may suggest the role behind the kill, some killing roles may be able to obscure or change their flavor. “
This actually might confirm Holden as scum because there’s been no occurrence of this?
@Holden - can you change your flavor?
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How would that work with bodyguardIn post 2565, April Ludgate wrote:I think I know what it is, but you guys aren’t going to like hearing it.
I think Clover has an ability that makes doctors turn into vigilantes.
Moon logic?
Maybe.
Because if Mastina is town, and there’s Auro....
That equals 7 perfectly.
Clover, Birds, Miss Lynch
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Idk probably my dysgrpahia. I mean to say something and then say a wrong form of it but in my head it makes sense.In post 2567, Dunnstral wrote:In post 815, HoldenGolden wrote:Do it, I'll use the nightly fractional kill on you than since its allowed to be used on scum.
Never seen anyone else consistently misspeak factional as "fractional" except for Clover Ebi. Does this mean you've been influenced by them in a scum pt?In post 2562, HoldenGolden wrote:Mafia fractional kp:
No seriously, this is kind of sketching me out. I don't think this is a common error to make.
I didn't notice it till now. Prob also autocorrect on phone
Like I will mean to say through but end up saying though even though I think j did say through.
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I dont even recall saying that so probably notIn post 2575, April Ludgate wrote:Ugh, did Holden do that analysis to try to make sense of Birds.
I think this game ends if we mislynch today. I just have a feeling.
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Wait ok are we agreeing with the missing KP thing I raised.
I'm still working through the WIFOM of Krazy horse not being able to count rn.
Theres a missing roleblocker
And most likely a missing KP since Krazy probbbbbbly cant count but not too much not counting.
At worse there is 2 missing KP.
The real question is if there is missing KP why is it missing by day 3
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Alive peeps
Me donkey sherif 1 shot vigeronoo confused miller
April- Kudmedo Dragon track/follow/Voyager
Dunn: neighborizer iirc flavour
Mislynch didnt claim
Chem is a owl and odd cop even messenger
Mistatina I think claimed phoniex doctor? I think I read that right.
Clover is anti town JOAT with non anti town last abilities supposedly. Cannot remember his flavor.
Birds is a communist thingy that randomly confirms a townie if he dies and they dont die.
Farside hasn't claimed
Dead boys or girls
Bingle was 2 vest
Lover Bodyguards x2
Reflective friendly neigh
1 shot dinsear locked alien
I cant remember Calvin's role
Bs flavour vig commenter cop lurker lover
Somebody else died
1-3 jan vig (scum)
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Ok I need sleep. My head is about to explode. Jts 5 am.
God dam
Oh sbit April said something last phase about mastina avjhhhhhhahsuw
Ok
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I mean birs has to have people supposedly live till day 4 and has to die to get 1 confirm townie.In post 2613, Dunnstral wrote:Do you guys think Birds role + Chemists role is too much investigative power in the setup together, or no?
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That too.In post 2616, April Ludgate wrote:
Idk. There’s a lot of millers. There was also Penguin’s roleIn post 2613, Dunnstral wrote:Do you guys think Birds role + Chemists role is too much investigative power in the setup together, or no?
Is this much protection and people with vest normal for theme games like this? Claivin I think was a protection role, and that's only excess thing jobbing out to me-
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Rereading game soon. Already full claimed. 1 shot vig confused miller. Flavour is donkey sheriff aka my pfp.In post 2672, Birds and the Boys wrote:I've been thinking about Holden. His is the only role that has not been confirmed. It also seems weird that his vigilante kill would be "shot" as opposed to anything animal related. I would like Holden or Farside to full claim next.
I believe that confused/miller is based on animal flavour involving human characteristics. Clavin was a stuffed animal. I'm a sheriff, birds is communist manifesto (I believe they claimed miller), bingle was raccoons stacked to look like humans etc.
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Apologizes, had a wicked mirgane yesterday.
Working up fleshing out the post in the bit, but looked back at Votato interactions day 1 and feel less go about conspire/farside. Looking at birds right now to see if the timing of the scum to town flip occured in their ISO on votato happened at a opportune time (ex. April pushing town votato hard for the gambit)-
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Mislynch is confirmed town
I feel strongly about [Apirl] being town given their interaction with the Mastina.
Leaves [Farside, Clover, Dunn] since chem is confirm scum which invalides the cop check.
Considering one scum was hard bussing Votato day 1, I'm not sure how much stock to put into the point i was going to raise about Farside switching to a townlean on votato due to meta back down to a scum lean.-
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SecondIn post 2841, April Ludgate wrote:Don't vote Chemist yet. I wanna talk prior to this day ending. Nothing in particular, I just wanna talk.
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Chems actual role matters too.In post 2294, Chemist1422 wrote:
Odd cop/Even messengerIn post 2292, Birds and the Boys wrote:we are an activatable double voter so chem is functionally at l-1 right now
claim time chemmy boy
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Got an inno on Dunn n1 then sent it to Conspire n2
We know they are a messager given that conspire confirmed it. I dont buy the cop part, and that maybe actually hiding the missing rb.-
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"If I'm scum" means nothing. I can say if I'm scum, then votato would of never fail my reaction test which caused the wagon on him to become more than RVS when I could of pushed town!farside.
I'll do a "story book" reread tomorrow when it's not 1237am
Pedit: sure but I highly doubt April basically busses Votato to go right after Mastina day 2. It's possible sure, but I doubt it.-
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I took it as rereading the game and coming to a read based on itIn post 2872, Dunnstral wrote:What is story tell reads?-
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Although Farside is dead, I felt it would be nice to answer this.In post 2884, farside22 wrote:In post 1869, HoldenGolden wrote:
Assuming that they did indeed to that.In post 1837, Birds and the Boys wrote:Votato and April, remember to target Mastina. You both agreed to this earlier in the game. I do not want to hear anything that you both didn't target the same person.
We should have a confirmation on votato/April's roles. Moreover, unless there is another janitor/vig combo that shot Bingle, I'm going to assume that is the mafia NK which means mafia has ways of using janitor powers.
I'm basing this off the drowned flavor text most likely being too focused to be something like a mafia night kill. Makes more sense for an aquatic animal actions.In post 1871, HoldenGolden wrote:Also, if anybody can confirmed PPs role, that would be nice.
Pedit: yeah I highly doubt vig targeted bingleIn post 2188, HoldenGolden wrote:
Ah fuck it, ill just state it since my baiting to draw anybody out to claim the missing KP didn't work (not that I thought it would)In post 1976, April Ludgate wrote:In post 1974, Birds and the Boys wrote:
Votato's role is a killing role that does not have this power, thoughIn post 1973, April Ludgate wrote:“Flips:
Flips may include kill flavor. While this may suggest the role behind the kill,some killing rolesmay be able to obscure or change their flavor. “
Also, this is in the Krazy ruleset, so anyone hanging onto that as a reasoning is scum or surface level.
Why does he have to be the one to have changed it?
I saw what I saw. And there’s fucking proof with the Bingle shot.
Mafia has ONE fucking shot based on that message, right? 1 janitor shot?
Bingle was janitored.
If nobody claims to have janitored Bingle, then it is confirmed Votato did so to him.
That was ALSO not his fucking kill flavor. This proves something is happening with it
I am the missing KP on the Bingle Kill Train. My Flavor for my KP is "Shot". That's why I knew day 2 that Bingle had to be targeted by a janitor/KP combo since like I stated it wouldn't make sense for a random Janitor to come along and just so happen to select the same person I targeted.
Okay so I checked Holden's Iso and not once do I see that he thought Bingle was scummy but claims to have shot at him.
I'm going to go with Holden/Chemist as my final answer to scum
VOTE: Chemist
Again just in case, keep an eye on what Chemist role does flip. I half wonder if ML is scum (godfather possiblity). If there is nothing about Chemist able to send a message to a player, lynch ML.
Bingle died due to losing at Simon flash.
On the off chance that Votato and April was telling the truth and I was wrong about assuming a rb (which pat pat, i got it right) I assume it wasnt a good idea to mess with their plan, so I just made a list upon rereading day 1 which was bingle/clavin/conspire.
Bingle was blue
Clavin was yellow
Conspire was red
And no shot was green
I played until I got a color wrong and whatever that color was, i shot there.
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Me dunn and Clover are in the neighborhood scum PT. I do not think that Dunn is scum based on reading it.
I have to double check, but birds made the Parity cop claim there before coming clean in thread, which would mean that scum!Dunn could of silence them prior to them reveling the results of said claim. Scum!dunn would of also been able to recite a fake result list if he wanted as well, but choose to let the info go to the town.
Like I said, I need to check it again, but if it checks out, then I doubt dunn is scum.
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(The black backed kingfisher is also known as the oriental dwarf kingfisher)Diet / Feeding
Like other kingfisher species, the Oriental Dwarf Kingfisher hunts from a perch. However, instead of fish (the typical diet of the kingfisher), it mainly feeds on insects, as well as small lizards or frogs, if the opportunity arises. Before eating lizards or frogs, it kills them by holding them in the beak and continually hitting them against a stone or tree stump.
Kingfishers are highly territorial birds. They will locate a prime area based on food sources, desirable perching trees and safe roosting sites. Like most birds, they will search for their food in the mornings and evenings. If the weather is cooler, they will also hunt for food during mid-day.
Cleanliness is important to Kingfishers; they will dive into the water to bathe, then fly to a perch to preen and dry their feathers in the sunlight. Some will even clean their heads using their wings. They will utilize a branch to clean their impressive bills, keeping them in excellent condition by scraping them back and forth.
Assuming the flavour claim to be correct, clover would be clear from drowning.
The neighbor pt soft confirms that dunn is an elephant.
So either someone is lying about flavor (clover/April), or miss lynch is an animal capable of drowning-
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Let me checkIn post 2930, April Ludgate wrote:
Wouldn't this have outed someone in the neighborhood as scum? What day did Birds claim that?In post 2928, HoldenGolden wrote:Scum!dunn would of also been able to recite a fake result list if he wanted as well, but choose to let the info go to the town.-
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Scratch it. It was made around when this was posted.In post 2503, Birds and the Boys wrote:mastina = chemist
mastina =/= miss lynch
april = scum
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The thing is that the neighborhood PT by design confirms his flavor as a elephant. So either he has to have a way to change it, or he cant be scum.In post 2935, April Ludgate wrote:Yeah, i think scum is confirmed in your hood, which just means we don’t have to worry about Miss godfather being an issue. Farside stated Birds was one of the two people she bus drove, which means Birds was roleblocked, then it got directed back at Dunnstral, which is why Chemist didn’t get put in your neighborhood.
This means Possible ScumDunn roleblocked himself, hilarious.
(Side note, that would be a cool role idea. Neighborizer that gains killing flavor based on who they neighborize. Call it the curator or something)
Would a neighborhood paraphrase recap post be helpful? I doubt us three gains much from discussing in there now since we all are the primary suspects.-
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Why would that be better than taking the chance in lylo?In post 2937, April Ludgate wrote:you guys wanna lynch me today, and fight amongst yourselves in 3p lylo. I'm going to pick wrong in final 3. I feel like all of you guys make sense having tried to pocket me this game.
We lynch one of me/dunn/clover today
Miss lynch or you dies.
If miss lynch dies, we have a pretty confirmed town role entering lylo.
If you die, same thing
If neither of you die, one of the suspects in our prime pool is killed and narrows down into either one of yall being scum or a WIFOM play.
Considering miss lynch's own admittance to thinking she would be auto lynched, I would say either way neither of the more likely to be townies are any better to go into miss lynch and I think it's best to remove one of us (me dunn clover) today-
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According to the post by birds made early in is iso in the PT, he said chemist = mastina which lined up to the start of day 3. I can quote that post dunn in our PT if you need to see what I'm referring too.In post 2946, Dunnstral wrote:
It wasn't possible for me to do that; what happened was birds claimed it the same day they claimed the day 4 suicidal thing in thread, but they claimed it to me ahead of timeIn post 2930, April Ludgate wrote:
Wouldn't this have outed someone in the neighborhood as scum? What day did Birds claim that?In post 2928, HoldenGolden wrote:Scum!dunn would of also been able to recite a fake result list if he wanted as well, but choose to let the info go to the town.
...which is why I believe you are town since it was a odd night and farside couldnt bus + why not just kill bird prior to the day phase where he telegraphed habeas going to reveal to town a confirm townie?-
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Bless youIn post 2947, April Ludgate wrote:
I'm being sardonic.In post 2944, HoldenGolden wrote:
Why would that be better than taking the chance in lylo?In post 2937, April Ludgate wrote:you guys wanna lynch me today, and fight amongst yourselves in 3p lylo. I'm going to pick wrong in final 3. I feel like all of you guys make sense having tried to pocket me this game.
We lynch one of me/dunn/clover today
Miss lynch or you dies.
If miss lynch dies, we have a pretty confirmed town role entering lylo.
If you die, same thing
If neither of you die, one of the suspects in our prime pool is killed and narrows down into either one of yall being scum or a WIFOM play.
Considering miss lynch's own admittance to thinking she would be auto lynched, I would say either way neither of the more likely to be townies are any better to go into miss lynch and I think it's best to remove one of us (me dunn clover) today-
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Quick question, Godfather with some form of RB would be quite silly role wise correct? I am not knowledgeable enough to know outright.
We have the issue of missing flavor KP. I have a decently high amount of faith based on the PT post that dunn is telling the truth based off the indications that he is indeed an elephant from the PT. Miss Lynch has expressed not wanting to confirm what role or animal they are if memoery serves me right (though they did claim not to be a RB). Neither Conspire/Misslynch or Clover claimed Confused like I did, meaning if they are unnatural they will be not added to the PT. We know that Clover is at least a natural animal.
Unless I misunderstood it (Ill admit the last few day phases i've kinda just got tired of playing this game lowkey and mindlessly ignored half the game), Dunn won't get a different report back if he is RB vs. his action fails correct? If not, and he does, we could at least try to see if
Nevermind. I was going to say we could see if Miss lynch is an natural animal to at least start getting an idea of if an action such as drowning makes sense, but I realize that it doesn't yeild any info and scum!dunn could just shoot into whoever was not lynched left in the hood to make it so where he can lie about rather or not Miss lynch was actually added.-
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Clover, I'm a donkeysheriff(my pfp) which has the confused modfier, meaning flavour wise, it can appear that I'm doing unnatural things for an animal. What do western sheriffs do? They shoot the bad guys with a gun. Ive explained why it makes sense.
Beyond that reread Votatos rolecard. His vig ability's flavor wasnt posted and we know he didnt used the mafia fractional KP either given the other nk day 1. Meaning, most likely, that both mafia and my town vig shot is both flavored as "shot".
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I dont think I'm getting anywhere worh flavour analysis, so I'm going to just go back and start rereading the game.-
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I'm currently sick right now so inbetween a trash can and the toliet.In post 2968, Clover Ebi wrote:I think it’s easier to try and find 1 town over scum and I think that’s April here. Holden I did forget you having the sheriff modifier, where are you at right now?
It's not a modifier btw. It's my flavour similar to how you are the kingfisher and not just a bird.-
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Haste still pays haste, and leisure answers leisure,
Like doth quit like, and measure still for measure.
What's mine is yours and what is yours is mine.
Rereading now...again. for the x number of times. Let me see if there is reason to doubt my dunn is town logic
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I've got a post baking in the oven, but I dont agree with Dunn is scum.
It would also mean he would have to be multitasking Roleblocker + neighborizer which is buffed with a flavor fractional kill switch since the neighbor PT soft confirms the elephant claim.
I'm not sure as this is my first role madness game, but I would imagine that's too many moving parts which the ability to visit 3 players potentially-
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Also we never got a positive confirmation that a comunting esk role was actually in the game to be copped by BS did we?In post 1943, Krazy wrote:Rafiki was making his way through his rounds in the morning, wondering what gruesome horror he would discover next."It's a dangerous life, in the animal kingdom,"he mused."Hard time, being an animal, for sure."
He was most nervous walking along the beach, since that's the place he'd seen the body from last night. And low and behold... there was... something? there.
"Is that... is that one of the bad guys?"he asked himself. He walked closer and poked and prodded, trying to figure it out."Seems more fox than human... man, what an ironic way to go... afire foxbeingdrowned. Wait, is that irony, or is that... thematic appropriteness?"
He considered this as the day went on, reporting his findings to the town.
Blatant Scum was drowned... he was a...
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...*sigh*
*deletes Miss lynch is scum post*
Ok so it's either the universal Anti town JOAT who would be also multitasking with a rb ability, or a "JOAT" that has fabricated a gambit play on a scum buddy, helped get another scum buddy lynched (Mastinia), and cleared a townie (farside).
Hahahahhahahahhah
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So some real questions are:
-Does the gambit play day 1 looks forced/not make sense with later logic presented day 3
-is there posturing during the mastina is scum campaign
-was the paranoid nature of april last day phase done to explain why she is alive now?
If no, then clover is scum
If yes, then April is scum
Pedit: yes yes you both have many town accolades. Clover, I'm looking at two ridiculously townie people on paper and having to find scum. I can play devils advocate and say that april has played "anti scum" (though really there isnt such a thing since it can be argued that bad scum play helps scum agenda) and therefore I should lynch you.-
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