Guns & Roses V [Game Over]
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If he didn't want attention on him, he'd post less, surelyIn post 80, Mr Sandman wrote:Bell is being at least somewhat inflammatory. Therefore, I'm not sure his comments about not wanting to engage come from a town reasoning. Instead, I think he may not want to engage in conflict because it will bring more attention to him, and this seems especially dangerous from a player like Hiraki who has already said that he more often than not is able to find mafia on D1.-
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In post 80, Mr Sandman wrote:To Tanner, Gún, and Rosé, is there any reason you didn't answer the RQS?-
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Not that, they made real posts
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In post 97, DrippingGoofball wrote:
Probably because they are town and don't feel the need to suck up.In post 96, Dunnstral wrote:
:shifty:In post 80, Mr Sandman wrote:To Tanner, Gún, and Rosé, is there any reason you didn't answer the RQS?Is this supposed to be an accusation towards me? Might want to double check your work.
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Not really? You're being accused of doing nothing and then naked votingIn post 130, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Suspecting me and DGB seems more playstyle based since we are relics of almost 15 years ago. It has no merit.-
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This is a non-answerIn post 311, Bell wrote:
Imagine going to a potluck and you're the only one that didn't bring anything.In post 308, Dunnstral wrote:How have I been awkward?-
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I missed the memo, why Akarin?In post 477, Gamma Emerald wrote:What's everyone's preference for elimination within {Bell, Akarin, Momrangal (the Rose slot)}? Submit as an ordered list
We can probably send one of the if we coordinate, and I'm not against any of them aorn.-
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could be a night 1 gun....In post 511, Akarin wrote:
But, like, come on people. Does scum ever make this post?In post 509, Momrangal wrote:I just wanna live the first night tho, honestly. After that, I don't care mich-
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But that's the thing, I'm not doing anything and you're tunneling me out of left fieldIn post 579, Bell wrote:Like, I don't see how the town looks good here when we can't even get an elim through on somebody who's playing like dunstral this game.-
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We should massclaim tomorrow, here's my reasoning:
There are enough roses alive to where mafia cannot win the game by shooting a rose every night. They can try, but the game will end naturally before that point.
We have setup information. There are 6 town roses alive. Make mafia claim to be a rose or a gun. Make them claim what night and where they shot, if they're a gun.
This will split the player list in two, and we'll know how many mafia are on each side.-
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me?
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Thre's no explanation for why he thinks Akarin is scumIn post 594, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Akarin
I’m getting cold feet on Bell and feel unsure about momrangal following that interaction so this is like, the only person on the table I legitimately feel any sort of confidence about being scum
I legit don’t think it’s Dunn yet
If we want to run off-track I might consider DGB or ABR
(Also, he doesn't think I'm scumyet?)
No reasoning for calling Akarin scumIn post 469, Momrangal wrote:Akarin and Hikari are also scum. I'm liking DBG for town and I'm not getting a scum read on ol' albert. IDK if that's something I should worry about that
No reasoning for calling Akarin scumIn post 476, Gún wrote:I'm not actually sure still how I feel about the dynamics between Bell/Akarin, because there's a part of me that wonders if she's the fallman still, but I'm fine with putting pressure on her to see what happens for now. But I don't think that these two are S/S together at all, either.
VOTE: Akarin
This guy has a reason, but it's from a reads list on page 5, which is also when he placed his voteIn post 124, Uncrowned wrote:Akarin: Picking weird stuff to talk about after returning to the game. Acknowledges that the game is out of RVS and thus implying that there’s been some content that’s probably worth talking about, but decides to talk about Roses claiming if they’re at E-1? Feels like a nothing question.
No reason for calling Akarin scumIn post 459, Tanner wrote:this game is a thing that i definitely didn't procrastinate on until it was 2am and i'm dead tired and
ok
anyway
uncrowned's post right above this one resonates with me very well. one might even say vibes. i've skimmed what i've missed, and bell is still in my top towns.
i have a feeling like a week ago i had great plans with my johnny vote which then fell through the floor of him just not being around, and it's probably not wise to keep the vote there as the deadline's approaching. i kinda still don't see the juice behind the dunn wagon, and i still townread uncrowned, so i wanna try something else.
VOTE: akarin
@mrsandman, i feel like you still owe me a response. unless i've made up askign you something. i think i didn't.
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Being pretty meh seems like a good reason to switch over at deadline
I don't think the Akarin wagon is based on a lot/I'm not sure it's being voted
Personally I don't feel like Akarin is likely to be mafia
Rose slot is like a coin toss, their stance on Akarin feels survivalistic without trying to look survivalistic, which feels scummy because they're acting like it's a read they have but they have no reasons-
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ok, Gun does have reasons, they're just spoilered
In post 475, Gún wrote:- Akarin in 280 made me stop and blink, and what I'm thinkin' it was was that it's the defense of my... well, she ain't here anymore, but my fellow hunter. Like she wanted to tank a bit of pain for her. She's done that a bit and really it doesn't sit right with me (because I'm supposed to that for Rosé, dammit). Akarin seems predisposed to doin' this sort of thing, and even admits it herself, but I'm not sure what the motivation is to stop pushes even if they seem a bit shallow this early on. The one thing that's buggin' me 'bout this is that a lot of us are comin' to this conclusion, that it might an act she's puttin' on, without anyone really stickin' their neck out for her.-
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One rose died at night, we're fineIn post 623, Dunnstral wrote:We should massclaim tomorrow, here's my reasoning:
There are enough roses alive to where mafia cannot win the game by shooting a rose every night. They can try, but the game will end naturally before that point.
We have setup information. There are 6 town roses alive. Make mafia claim to be a rose or a gun. Make them claim what night and where they shot, if they're a gun.
This will split the player list in two, and we'll know how many mafia are on each side.-
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How is it scum-sided, though?In post 666, Hiraki wrote:
I have been thinking about this a lot. For starters, ABR was a mafia kill. Uncrowned could have been either.In post 653, Dunnstral wrote:
One rose died at night, we're fineIn post 623, Dunnstral wrote:We should massclaim tomorrow, here's my reasoning:
There are enough roses alive to where mafia cannot win the game by shooting a rose every night. They can try, but the game will end naturally before that point.
We have setup information. There are 6 town roses alive. Make mafia claim to be a rose or a gun. Make them claim what night and where they shot, if they're a gun.
This will split the player list in two, and we'll know how many mafia are on each side.
Sell me on this a little more. There's 11 people in this game, I am town so for the purposes of this, I'm taking it out of 10 (this works for everyone in their own position). If there's 6 roses, that leaves 4 gun. That's a 50/50 shot. I like those odds especially with my reads. If there's 7 roses, that leaves 3 gun. That's a 1/3. I don't like those odds and now we have a pool of 5/2. If there's 8 roses, that leaves 2 guns - both confirmed town. Those have a target on their head for the rest of the game but are useful today only based on how mafia plays (additionally at least one of these guns has potentially already shot their shot). Lastly, if there's 5 roses, that confirms all 5 roses as town, mafia is now in a potential auto-loss position. Therefore, they'd absolutely never take this stance.
My concern is that I can't be the only one who has thought this far. The optimal here is that we get 6 roses but that is only based off of scum playing sub-optimal. The other scenarios are heavily scum-sided.
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Excavator. I targeted Bell but was unable to clear his tunnel.In post 713, Iconeum wrote:
bulletproof vengefull?In post 712, Bell wrote:I wouldn't know a good fake claim if it hit me in the head tho.-
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For what?In post 773, Bell wrote:
I'm upset with posts like this and you wonder why I'm tunneling you.In post 772, Dunnstral wrote:I'd be fine with voting out johnny as of right now. Not sure about Gamma, Umlaut, Akarin
Akarin doesn't feel like scum based on anything they've done and people are unfairly piling on them but I don't really know their alignment
IDK about Gamma and Umlaut. I don't even remember Umlaut being in the game-
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7/11 players left in the game are town. Upon an absence of any incriminating evidence, they are more likely to be townIn post 779, Gamma Emerald wrote:Do you have anything you think she’s town for?-
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I'm not a very big day 1 hunter anyway? I usually end up talking about mechanical stuffIn post 778, Bell wrote:
You just aren't hunting this game. :cry:In post 776, Dunnstral wrote:
For what?In post 773, Bell wrote:
I'm upset with posts like this and you wonder why I'm tunneling you.In post 772, Dunnstral wrote:I'd be fine with voting out johnny as of right now. Not sure about Gamma, Umlaut, Akarin
Akarin doesn't feel like scum based on anything they've done and people are unfairly piling on them but I don't really know their alignment
IDK about Gamma and Umlaut. I don't even remember Umlaut being in the game
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I was waiting to see what his response to pressure would be, and letting other things play out. But nothing is happening, so sure.In post 810, Tanner wrote:what do you think about voting him, then? you're not voting anyone right now.
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Cursed slot
Constantly replaces out
That's + points for being scum
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I went for mass claim because I believe it is a good play. You disagreed, and some town disagreed. I think they're wrong but didn't push it furtherIn post 1075, Hiraki wrote:
That's not what I asked though. You can't just scurry away from an answer and then say "well, doesn't really matter anymore" - you still pushed for it without giving a lot of reasoning and then when I went into my own line of logic, I couldn't figure out a single towny take-away. Now that I did that, your response was almost 'meta-ish'.In post 1040, Dunnstral wrote:I'm not pushing for mass claim anymore because most people didn't want to do it
I usually misread Ico. I don't really remember that with Dunn especially based off of the current line of logic I'm pursuing.In post 1045, Gamma Emerald wrote:And you’re okay shooting Dunn but not limming him? WHY???
What is the argument? You can't tell me I'm missing something and expect me to just pass off whatever I'm missing. No one works that way.In post 1057, Akarin wrote:@Hiraki: I actually posted on the benefit to claiming earlier.
Iactually think we should have claimed at that point, but I don't think it's anywhere near as crazy or scumsided as you're implying it was. I think there was a perfectly valid argument to be made for it.don't
And yeah, I think you're either missing something on the mech front, or just having a kneejerk mech-is-bad reaction.
If that's your main reason for scumreading Dunn I think your read is bad.
For JF or Dunn?In post 1072, Gamma Emerald wrote:I feel like Hiraki and Bell took a lot of work to get on the wagon
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maxwell was clearly setting up to push me day 3
So they could use their night 3 gun shenanigan
If I were mafia, there wouldn't be night 3 guns. That's way too late, night 2 would be more appropriate for that kind of play.
Anyways, don't rush into an elim today. I want every gun who has shot so far to claim where they shot and if it failed-
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The elim doesn't change to Momrangal until I campaign for itIn post 602, FakeGod wrote:-
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Because they're dumb tooIn post 1189, Bell wrote:I'm dumb. Why is everyone happy to get Dunnstral now?-
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