yes, i'm saying if fferybork or whoever abruptly pulls a reversal after strongly expressing a townread on me to get me eliminated then it's because they're scum. i don't expect any of them to because anyone who knows me at all knows this is as flagrantly town as i can get but it's possible i have a blind spot somewhereIn post 7500, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:big lul about this one
hey you hear that ffery
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i feel like i'm a lot more open to reason than her but it's also a moot point becaue she's obviously not going down today and i don't think i am eitherIn post 7507, Firebringer wrote:
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the way you've been pushing setup spec i think is faulty for certain eliminations, have tried to bulldoze through my claim and have tried to preemptively tie me to my scumread? am i supposed to know that's town?In post 7504, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:okay so all this shit where you do the interaction bit with me and try to look genuine it's all for show?
like I've been saying?
cause if you think i'm scum after how i've approached this game state peta
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is this supposed to be sarcastic or not i can't tellIn post 7515, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:peta
this is as flagrantly town as i get
i'm currently turning on my "lld is town" pheremones
i'm definitely town telling and anyone who thinks i'm scum must be scum
i definitely can't turn this on as scum.
definitely.
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then it's not really a trust tell innitIn post 7518, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:and you can be scum while doing it and say "gotcha"
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because in the game of mafia if you stop talking you loseIn post 7532, Firebringer wrote:why do i only see support for wagons on people who aren't here?
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still distrustful of that arg (not that i think it's incorrect but it's the way scum like to make people doubt things) but ok probably one scum in you/skitter/sb9, and one at most if my speculation is rightIn post 7542, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:why you think i'm out here being like "this is too much power this is too much power"free crypto-
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midwaybear i think altho i can probably guess
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that was one of the games on my mind yeah. that and 2180 where iconeum did it and it absolutely wrecked townIn post 7558, Deacon Blues wrote:
i mean fwiw you're not wrong here and i'm not just writing off LLD for this (this is exactly what i did in illicit except that i was extremely hamfisted about it because i am bad) but townread her outside the claimIn post 7554, petapan wrote:(not that i think it's incorrect but it's the way scum like to make people doubt things)
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every time i have doubts about your slot you post and it seems so wonderfully town that the doubt goes awayIn post 7570, Dandelion Wine wrote:i knew when i signed up for a hydra with a bigger player than me that this would happen because i've seen less dominant hydra heads have the same experience repeatedly but it still stings a little
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just wanna ask what your thought on the balance is: like 2 town prs per timestream that work in the one opposite the one they start? because that's what i've been guessingIn post 7588, Dandelion Wine wrote:A50 - tracker transmitter
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idk ceph has been saying he wants to get him and then cabd comes in with this so ???In post 7628, midwaybear wrote:Scum really trying to keep Pooky alive huh
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In post 7634, midwaybear wrote:LLD, maybe Dandelion
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btw, is this accurate? you don't have to fullclaim. i would've sworn knowing you you'd end up being a full vtIn post 7588, Dandelion Wine wrote:Obtusebear - VT backwards/ weak PR forwardsfree crypto-
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yeah. i felt like he started the day making reads that felt political and he was taking, like, distant stances on everyone. i dont know how to explain it better. then i made my give up vote on him and he raged at me and kind of faded into just shitposting afterIn post 7647, Firebringer wrote:about pooky buddying/manipulating everyone?free crypto-
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i checked and the votes on him are you/midway/skitter. we're like our own misfit tribe at this point
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i legit for a second thought brian got blitzed even though that wouldn't make any sense
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does it matter, like what are they gonna do, tell lld to keep tunneling me if shes townskitter30 wrote:
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what does that meanIn post 7712, skitter30 wrote:
i wanna put a pin in the purple room now because i'm p sure it's been put to ill-use two days in a row nowIn post 7710, petapan wrote:
does it matter, like what are they gonna do, tell lld to keep tunneling me if shes townskitter30 wrote:
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i thought i was scum though?In post 7738, Spiffeh wrote:
I thought his naked vote on me appeased petapan and went along with status quoIn post 7732, Deacon Blues wrote:midway seems the type of person to me that very much tries to appease the status quo when he is scum. he very much did that in illicit and from FGO from what i read.
This looks more like SFA midway to me.
I am turning into an armchair metaer but that's about all i have to go off midway with
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so he's scum appeasing scum or whatIn post 7745, Spiffeh wrote:I think you are
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i had the same conclusion as well but at this point you have to think not everyone with a pr who works in the other thread can be town right?In post 7772, Dandelion Wine wrote:i mean i don't have the information to tell you if that helped town or not but as a game i thought we had decided early on that needing to switch threads to use your role was possibly a towntell depending on how the initial setup worked (did scum get to choose who goes where? i feel like the mod answered this but i don't remember for sure)
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you can get him to answer i don't think he would talk to meIn post 7780, Firebringer wrote:I am stunned i am the only one concerned with grilling pooky.
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your #1 is currently skitter?In post 7812, Deacon Blues wrote:
i mean neither of our slots have called him town here; i've engaged him a bit and he might be scum but he's not my #1 and he's not been exactly omnipresent yetIn post 7803, skitter30 wrote:, the followup of spiffeh potentially being scum never happeend with either of your slots, even tho he's being plenty scummy here
not sure what you expected to happen in the event his removal didn't prompt a "forwards thread is now a world where the only restaurant is taco bell and we have the three seashells" esp considering what ffery had to say about the read coming in
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i was looking at day 2 and saw a lack of scumhunting, in hindsight using this as a way of reading people was probably not the best idea given the reads it led me on to attack just about everyone, i think people were afflicted with holiday doldrums and there wasn't a ton of solving in either thread. nonetheless after repeatedly trying to dialogue with him i was unsatisfied, in particular i felt the reads he threw out were just implausible and didn't reflect critical thinking, he's been very surface level. i can quote the arguments i made earlier today for youIn post 7861, Deacon Blues wrote:
what as of 6600 did you not like about his iso in the other thread?In post 7853, petapan wrote:i was the one who was most strongly scumreading spiffeh and i got into it with him some dozens of pages back or whatever it was, i've made a few posts about it if you'd like me to quote. i'm not sure skitter's arguments were as strong aside from him just not being towny here
because i think that's how we got into this current gamestate of you v him
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In post 7318, Spiffeh wrote:Town: {Deacon Blues, Dandelion Wine, LLD}
Townlean: {Firebringer, skitter30}
Null: {Pooky, midwaybear}
Scumlean: {petapan}
Scum: {Almost50}
This is where I'm at off the top of my head
Might ISO Pooky and midwaybear if I get the chance this week because I haven't read many of their posts since getting here
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caveat: he walked this back almost immediately because it was incredibly late, but i still dont see how someone looks at the game and thinks all those people can be town and the scumteam is in that groupIn post 7324, Spiffeh wrote:In post 6505, petapan wrote:in hindsight i probably shouldn't be giving spiffeh a pass for sheer total incuriosity; having a50 as his sole scumread is also pretty shite
Hmmm you're right that I probably shouldn't be so generous with town reads given the amount of scum remainingIn post 6612, petapan wrote:takes me literally a few minutes to look at someone and spiffeh couldnt be fucked lmao
It's just how i feel rn idk
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i don't think the way things have been going and the kills reflect that. his scumteam guess also included every non-skitter investigative. but in general i feel as though he's been surface level with his takes, like that midwaybear driveby he just did. (midwaybear is maybe in the iffy range in that i think he could totally post like he's been doing today as scum, but on tone still town i think). i don't like the stickiness of his a50 read, i feel that's a lazy lurker elim scum would want to push, and some of his reasoning on that dishonest. i had words about it earlier.In post 7875, Deacon Blues wrote:
because you don't agree w/ them or because they don't make sense together or whatIn post 7874, petapan wrote:but i still dont see how someone looks at the game and thinks all those people can be town and the scumteam is in that group
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then there was this sequence, i decide to ask for midwaybaer's vote because nothing is happening and i want to try to take some initiative
In post 7367, petapan wrote:i was just wondering if there was anything more to it, that's fine
i'm kind of w/e on the purple room in general
could i interest you in a spiffeh (un)voteIn post 7373, Spiffeh wrote:Thank you everyone for universally deciding I should be flipped the week I am V/LA because of work
midwaybear is probably scum for hopping on so easily and Bell looks atrocious cheering this on from the other thread
to me, the AtE here looked insanely fucking premature. at that point in time there were 3 votes on him: me, skitter, and midwaybaer. i don't think any of us had pull and it wasn't like everyone else was going for it. at that point in time there were more votes on me. it reminded me of [redacted].In post 7374, Spiffeh wrote:It's almost like what I said was happening at the beginning of the Day
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is it confbiasy if i'm just literally referencing everything he said on shelly? it's fine to disagree if you like and say you don't think it's a bad trajectory but i'm just pointing things out and making a conclusion
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he wouldn't, but he's still on that read days later w/ no readjustment, he was talking about the thread needing to refocus but then has reads that feel, well,i wouldn't say consensus-y, but not very conflicting?In post 7898, Deacon Blues wrote:7354 how would spiffeh have known a50 was a tracker when he made the post you quoted?
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yeah you're not getting 6 votes there lol
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eh hm maybeIn post 7910, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:bet you I can do Fire, Spiffeh, Pooky, Deacon, Me, Dandelion.free crypto-
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that's fair tbhIn post 7916, Deacon Blues wrote:just noting that i see this and am thinking it over but like, i can totally see somebody scumreading a50 this game over the entire game i guess.
anyway i need a break and am gonna take off for the night.
we got somewhere...just not sure where yet. i feel considerably more engaged than i've been at any earlier point and that's something i guess.
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i do for oneIn post 7918, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
like who reads this and thinks oh yeah town wrote thisIn post 7912, petapan wrote:and i'm worried sitter could be buddying me because i'm not sure i liked the explanation for townreading me but i'm kinda not sure i care
good lord
it's fucking peta+skitter+a50
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i'm obviously not doing me first but if either of those two is scum i accept death as my punishment for being badIn post 7925, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
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not true! he also voted for pisskop (i realize this is not in his favor)In post 7934, Spiffeh wrote:It is important to note that A50's recent vote on me is the only vote that he has cast the entire gamefree crypto-
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sorry if you did i missed itIn post 7950, Almost50 wrote:
I already answered this. My meta as a mod is to do crazy shit. After all; it was an OVERKILL game (up to 6 people could've dies on N1 iirc). I don't believe SC follows the same school. He's just not as crazy as I am.In post 7880, petapan wrote:hey a50 real quick you said i was town because i'm a receiver, ppl said it doesn't make sense for you to think that given you had a role like this that was scum in overkill 2, what do you say to that?free crypto-
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probably just going to let them have their way and snapvote tmrw if its wrong and i'm aliveIn post 6337, Dunnstral wrote:No no
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if she and i are both town i'm p sure the game is lost alreadyIn post 7966, skitter30 wrote:pedit peta it literally loses the game if she's town and wrong. hence stupidly performative and manipulative ...free crypto-
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