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Post Post #4394 (isolation #600) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:05 am

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It's okay

I waffled again on Titus. The issue here is that bork/Cakez interactions and repeated attempts to force her through overwhelmingly point to Titus town. Titus's play around them, with the exception of the weird bit about dropping me to push Cakez D1, reads the opposite.

I bet she's town but shit's hard yo.
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Post Post #4397 (isolation #601) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:09 am

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notsci doublebussing+bork trying to flip it to notsci is bold

Math flipping between Cakez/Titus frequently makes sense for Math town but is unfortunate

Gun to my head let's just roll with BM

Again if bork is town phoning it in I am going to be so fucking salty lmao
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Post Post #4401 (isolation #602) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:18 am

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A lot of that day 1 artifact VCA kinda just gets trashed because LLD claimed mason.

Votes before/after claims might be worth looking at since me/LLD were kind of dueling for it before BM kinda Miltank busted into the room and went "HOW BOUT ME Y'ALL?"
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Post Post #4403 (isolation #603) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:41 am

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I took written notes but at some point I just kind of decided to power through, I might go back and collate them at some point.

T->S
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Spiffeh-Mech clear to me
Dunn-See previous posts, flashwagon is not the start of it, counter to scum wagon several times, would be a really dumb early bus from Cakez
Tammy-2437 we should never be voting this slot
Pooky-idk townbear good shit w/ Cakez+bork

MathBlade-Fuck it I'm just calling this slot town after D2/D3 and Cakez trying to get him off his back repeatedly. That Day 1 is still terrible though
notsci-Doublebussing in a mech-heavy closed game. Bold.

BM-Has some ok interactions with Cakez but overall lackluster. Most town thing was probably his D3 Cakez vote.

Titus-I have wanted Titus to be town but this ISO is a flaming dumpster fire, they are town because bork/Cakez pushed them and for the weird stuff w/ me/Cakez Day 1 and that is LITERALLY IT. Pushing Cakez clear for being the counter, wants to yeet in likely all town pool, voting notsci end of day and holding out on Cakez vote
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Post Post #4404 (isolation #604) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:43 am

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If I were to go just based off Cakez/bork/mastina Titus is way at the top of the townreads but her actual stances and play just drag her all the way down to the bottom of the readslist. I might go back and revisit the Day 1 wagon again but fundamentally if Cakez/bork decided they gotta bus Day 1 they gotta bus Day 1. The real +town thing here was Cakez shutting down a quiet wagon when Titus was the alternative iirc.

YOLO
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Post Post #4406 (isolation #605) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:04 am

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yeet

I'd say if you wanted to see what I'm talking about w/ MB's Day 1, 1605 up through the 1800s is a good starting point.

Titus has some great interaction moments, like:

-1301
-1903 is one of the best posts in the entire game
-2051
-1271 about Cakez failing to meta me
-1645
-Cakez 1391
-Cakez 1570 about having her dead to rights

these all will make me feel very stupid if she flips town but the rest of the ISO is a shitshow
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Post Post #4409 (isolation #606) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:08 am

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It's very likely that scum figured out Bell was mason tbf, I figured it out some point Day 3 but had thoughts about it through Day 2.

I'm exasperated trying to track that slot's progressions though and just want someone to burn an investigative on it. Day 1 was horrendous, Day 2 on has been fine.
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Post Post #4410 (isolation #607) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:09 am

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Like at some point Day 1 MB was literally FOSing 7-9 people at once, I lost count
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Post Post #4411 (isolation #608) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:12 am

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What makes Day 1 so terrible is that it's just so plausible to me that Cakez was unsure whether or not they could get Dunnstral Day 1 with competing scum wagons, MathBlade goes "I bet we can" in the PT, and they say fuck it and go for it

That said I don't see a world where we really lose this anymore
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Post Post #4412 (isolation #609) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:27 am

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Okay no voting Titus is stupid, as bad as some of these posts are, I will go to bat because these interactions are insane and bork really wanted Titus over either of mastina/Cakez rather than viewing them as equivalent

YOLO

VOTE: MathBlade
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Post Post #4413 (isolation #610) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:29 am

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I also just straight up don't think notsci/Cakez/bork all think it's a great idea to triple bus each other Day 3, like what a goddamn trainwreck of a team
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Post Post #4414 (isolation #611) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:55 am

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Cakez takes awhile to get on Titus:
Spoiler: Wall 1
In post 1221, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1197, MathBlade wrote:@Kitty+Cakez I don’t think either of you are scum and Cakez is who scum wanna miselim? Can we compromise on Titus or Mastina flash wagons? Lots of people want Titus but no one is voting there.
Not super interested in either of those atm vs Pooky or Dunn wagons.
In post 1245, SirCakez wrote:fine let's do this
VOTE: Titus
but when he gets there he stays on, repeatedly turns down opportunities to wagon other players up until the Dunn wagon is the only hope of avoiding Cakez/mastina flip.
Spoiler: Wall 2
In post 1391, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1337, Titus wrote:Claiming VT.

Don't care if I get yeeted. This game is a town loss. There's no cohesion or ability to get it thanks to the stupid post restriction.

You have my solve. See you in 1-2 months.
hi scum Titus
she doesn't vomit this defeatist delusional crap as town
I'm sorry she is not feeling well right now but that does not make her town
In post 1358, Dunnstral wrote:Titus is sort of scummy but IDK
And this is how buddies talk about each other at this point where an elim is likely but not inevitable.
In post 1385, Bell wrote:unlike spiffeh who eventually seems to have finally rolled town
still not seeing this
he's not blatantly scummy but the town vibes are very nonexistent there
In post 1567, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1402, Spiffeh wrote:I think her early posts addressing MathBlade directly seemed Town. Even mentioning policy limming didn't bother me, I perceived it as her trying to get Mathblade's head out of his ass. I also think Titus' early interactions with LLD lean way more Town than Scum.
Someone else talked about this but I think this is actually scummy Spiff. She was practically egging him on at certain points.
In post 1569, SirCakez wrote:I am beginning to wonder if quiet was just overwhelmed by this game and flaked as opposed to him being scum lurking pre-replace out
I don't like how everyone just sort of shoved him into their SRs
In post 1570, SirCakez wrote:Battle Mage went V/LA right? He does feel less present then normal atm but I felt his early game was transparently town.
I'd rather just stay on course with Titus anyways. I think we've got her dead to rights.
In post 1536, Spiffeh wrote:Hi I would like to say I love literally everyone in this playerlist and hope they are doing well

I have never been more excited with a playerlist on this website than I am with this one, and am glad to be playing with all of you <3

I hope everyone that is scum gets limmed tho
Spiffeh man this post is terrible even if you were drunk/high like I'm guessing
In post 1582, SirCakez wrote:It's not really that I think anything quiet did was especially townie
I just find it odd how he ran straight to the bottom of everyone's readslists
Feels very LHF
In post 1620, SirCakez wrote:The only reason I'd vote Math at this point is to help clear up the gamestate
I think he continues to make bad post after bad post and I just don't think it's scum play at all
There are still some MB/Cakez interactions that make me go UGHHHHHHHHHHH MAYBE JUST VOTE BM but yeah. My turn Tammy.

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Post Post #4415 (isolation #612) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:08 am

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at the risk of being performative i seriously hate that i am once again considering pooky

because literally nobody else makes any fucking sense

what is happening
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Post Post #4416 (isolation #613) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:13 am

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w/e we can yeet the miller, going to wait for Spiffeh to give feedback but BM vote is fine

UNVOTE:

unless it's titus scum has been bussing into near autoloss all game and i do not understand what the fuck they are doing
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Post Post #4418 (isolation #614) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:27 am

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me, putting enough effort in to qualify for the olympics, and losing the game anyway

name a more iconic trio
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Post Post #4421 (isolation #615) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:40 am

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Bork definitely still had plenty of places to go, setting up some distance with notsci doesn't hurt but throwing himself on the tracks that early instead of getting ready to vs. Spiffeh or something would be wack. He had no idea he was getting poisoned.
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Post Post #4428 (isolation #616) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:44 am

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I mean I waffle on you/MB/Titus but I've been pretty clear in giving convictions+laying out specifically what is town or scum about each of the slots.

I agree that I've spammed and worked myself into a knot where no matter who is scum I'm just going to go "??? You really thought this was a good idea?"

But Pooky's right, and you can be that 'town leader' if you don't like it being me working myself into a knot or Spiffeh waiting until later tonight to contribute.
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Post Post #4430 (isolation #617) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:48 am

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I mean I appreciated you chipping in last night but right now you're voting a clear while two other players are voting someone who we mechanically should not vote today.

If I'm not a satisfactory hero for you, be your own.
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Post Post #4434 (isolation #618) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:55 am

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I am absolutely not going to win post-game kudos and the entire point of the last ~2 hours is I'm a fucking mess lmfao

The "be your own hero" comment was not to actually say I'm the hero of the game but to affirm that I am absolutely not going to be one for you.
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Post Post #4435 (isolation #619) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:57 am

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Make the notscience case.

Right now you spent time on the main Day 1 counterwagon and flipped on Cakez at the end of Day 3.

If something is wrong with the play go to bat for it.
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Post Post #4437 (isolation #620) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:03 am

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Pooky's been bussing the entire game even if he wasn't actually vote Cakez for most of it.
notscience/bork/Cakez were 3 way bussing each other yesterday, every man for himself.
Titus got hardshoved by Cakez/bork for eons and both passed up chances to flip to town slots in order to stay there.
MathBlade is MathBlade and that Day 1 aversion to voting Mastina was horrendous but Day 2 on was shoving Cakez, and had some very crisp interactions w/ Cakez Day 1.

In comparison my towncase for you is sometimes it seemed like Cakez was inviting me to push you. He did the same for bork.

I am absolutely voting the person I think is most likely to flip scum atm even if I flop around for the scumcase on those slots.
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Post Post #4439 (isolation #621) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:06 am

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Well, if you can't case anyone and aren't going to shove your reads, probably don't want to leave you until Elo.
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Post Post #4441 (isolation #622) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:09 am

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And that starts with you. Any time you want to talk about notscience, we can, but aimlessly berating us for not being good enough while simultaneously crying out "but I'm not good enough to do better!" is baffling.

I have given more than enough for you to engage with, both in collated form and in random snippet form. I just gave you starting points for why the other slots looked town.
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Post Post #4445 (isolation #623) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:16 am

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It fell to me to pick who I wanted to vote today. Most recently, I picked you, and I will be responsible if it flips town.

If you don't care to actually talk about notscience or your scumread, then OK. I hope you cherish the moral victory if you are right.
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Post Post #4446 (isolation #624) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:22 am

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Like this whole emphasis on good player, town leader, me pursuing kudos, is just bizarre given that I have spent the entire last 3 hours saying "Yeah I dunno my thoughts are all mixed up" and voting whoever I immediately think is scum.

I blatantly do not know the last scum, am very confused, and am more than okay admitting that from the getgo, since this seems to be important to you.

So you can push me, push notscience, or do something else now that I am safely put in my place and not vying for public postgame approval.
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Post Post #4453 (isolation #625) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:34 am

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this man has a meltdown when I invite him to talk about his scumread instead of himself

and complains I only want to talk about myself

lmfao
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Post Post #4454 (isolation #626) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:35 am

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I will literally talk about whoever you want my dude. I already have been for the last several hours. You say the word, you write something for me to look at on that slot, and I am there.
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Post Post #4458 (isolation #627) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:42 am

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Okay, well, when you have an idea of who that might be and why, I will come back to the thread. I've stared at the screen enough for now and other players should jump in, maybe you'll work better with them than you do me.
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Post Post #4459 (isolation #628) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:44 am

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We've had basically 4 posters in the last 24 hours, you're important to keep posting but I'm not. notsci/Spiffeh/Dunn can take the wheel from me for a bit.
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Post Post #4464 (isolation #629) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:10 pm

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In post 4460, borkjerfkin wrote:being on the way out has sapped my motivation here. sorry for that.

i'm town though; let me get settled in and i'll make one last big push here
If you just let me read 175 pages under the assumption you were scum as town I am going to take those fins and shove them somewhere

Step 1 claim your artifact usage for Tammy thanks
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Post Post #4472 (isolation #630) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:14 pm

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This game is now just penguin_alien's Mutual Support Home for the Depressed, Insane, & Aging Scummers

Apartment 101 has Tammy. She hasn't showered in a week, her hair is a mess, but she's got wine, a PS1, and a CD player with all the 2000s hits.
Apartment 102 has MathBlade. The room is covered in lines, tacks, and post it notes. Trying to enter is forbidden, you might step on something and disrupt the whole chain. There's a "no smoking" sign on the front door. We slip food in and it always gets eaten.
Apartment 103 has Prism. Inside, they lay on a mess of printed out pages of the game. Sometimes they mention a fateful trip to Fix Flags with MathBlade, but usually you just hear variants of "I don't know" and "I've lost control of my life"

Up on the second floor we have Titus in 201, she tries to get out sometimes but feels her best mafia days are behind her.
202 has Battle Mage. He grew up idolizing heroes, and wanted to be a sidekick one day. At some point he realized they weren't real and never would be, and now he waits alone, cold and jaded.
In 203 is Spiffeh. He's like Titus but worse, because he insists that magic is real and that one day he'll live in Disneyland again. For now, he just watches Fantasia on VHS day after day. His room smells of cheese left to mold and rot in various corners.

None of us are really sure if the stuffed animals that are borkjerkfin and Pooky can really talk or not. Answers vary. The one thing the whole house can agree on is that they saw the stuffed bear eat a whole cake one day.

notscience works the front desk, he's not a real resident but sometimes he feels like it. He tells us about his hopes, his dreams, or when he's just having a bad day. We all hope he gets out of here someday.

Dunnstral comes by and visits sometimes just because his mom makes him after school. Sometimes he secretly enjoys it.
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Post Post #4474 (isolation #631) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:29 pm

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I swear to God I have seen Spiffeh online a million times and he just watches

watches

and watches us all, so small, so pitifully human, thrashing in the abyss

But above the gray land and the spasms of bleak dust which drift endlessly over it, you perceive, after a moment, the eyes of Spiffeh M. Paragon. The eyes of Spiffeh are black and gigantic—their retinas are one yard high. They look out of no face, but, instead, from a pair of enormous rodent eyeballs which pass over a non-existent nose
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Post Post #4478 (isolation #632) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:00 pm

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very settled

any day now

just getting into the chair
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Post Post #4479 (isolation #633) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:02 pm

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hope that smoked pork butt was good b/c i'm about to fly 2 ur house and stuff u in it

mods pls no ban not real threat
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Post Post #4480 (isolation #634) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:07 pm

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My #1 takeaway from this game is I never want to see another SvS wagon Day 1 in my fucking life
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Post Post #4481 (isolation #635) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:56 pm

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Mmmm I've got a bit more energy. If no one else is going to do anything tonight, I guess I can push myself a little harder.
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Post Post #4482 (isolation #636) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:27 pm

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We literally have 4 guesses if bork dies tonight, and if he doesn't he seriously fucked up for scumclaiming because as scum is actually incentivized to save him regardless.

So maybe I just shouldn't worry so much tbh, and I will almost certainly see tomorrow unless scum wants to leave Spiffeh/Pooky/Tammy all alive.

Reviewing BM there's still no town silver bullet, unfortunate. Just random tonal oneliners with Cakez (ex. "Use it on me" for Cakez's power). A small sidenote that's really angleshooty but we've actually seen two main characters as fakeclaims. Bork was softing Myka all of Day 1, which is why I believed the Farnsworth claim. Cakez had Jinks as a fakeclaim. 3 main characters would be...interesting.

I'm probably going to case MathBlade for the sake of it, because I think it's him or BM. Pooky paranoia has shot way down now that bork has actually scumclaimed. Titus is a bit more up in the air but the interactions here are just home run after home run. Thinking on my nightly drive his play today is strange. There's none of the celebratory triumph/bizarre delusionary flexing I would expect after Day 2. The 1v1 with me he didn't even get remotely excited thinking he actually caught me. There was zero interest in any of the mechanics around the Tammy guilty on Bork, and very little interest in the Farnsworth, and no celebration, no mechanical questioning, nothing.
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Post Post #4483 (isolation #637) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:36 pm

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Mmmmm, nah. It can wait for tomorrow, gameday wise. We should have a lot of mechanical power leftover, I shouldn't be getting nightkilled, and I have a hard time believing we won't get at least one clear in me/notsci/Math/Titus out of it. Even a single one should be enough to bring this home.

VOTE: BM

If this doesn't get hammered I might get around to casing tomorrow (irl) but we'll see.

Shouldn't be investigating outside of MB/Titus/notsci/me, in my preference order but yours may vary.
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Post Post #4485 (isolation #638) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:43 pm

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After the parade you put on Day 2 claiming responsibility for a scumflip you weren't even on I'm skeptical.

I mean I could save it for postgame if I'm scum but I do not know of a slot you did not at some point push as scum Day 1 other than maybe Tammy/KTT. Literally everyone else got a turn.
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Post Post #4486 (isolation #639) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:45 pm

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Conveniently, I am sure if you are town that whoever the last scum is was the one you really meant and you were at worst 4 for 5 or 4 for 6
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Post Post #4488 (isolation #640) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:28 pm

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I was one of the players that you townlocked Day 1. I take this to mean that if I, or another townlocked player, wind up being mafia we will go with the time you scumread them as the definitive answer.
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Post Post #4489 (isolation #641) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:33 pm

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Of course, it was also only one of me/bork, so if I'm town you were right all along Day 1 anyway. And exactly scum with Bork if I am schm. Right on me regardless of what I flip, you might say.
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Post Post #4494 (isolation #642) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:32 am

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Indeed

She needs to stop voting bork though

I should also draw up some way for her to report other night results when I feel like it, should actually be able to code results in 3 votes
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Post Post #4496 (isolation #643) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:34 am

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For now she can just vote Dunn or me if we're dumb and we shouldn't wait for the poison on bork but I really don't see what scenario that would be w/ her PR
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Post Post #4497 (isolation #644) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:25 am

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VOTE: MathBlade

Someone else go read Page 75, where Math starts the Dunn flashwagon, and Page 79, when BM jumps off to get back on mastina, and explain to me why we should not be voting Math
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Post Post #4499 (isolation #645) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:33 am

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He hasn't been in hammer range the entire day.

And great, let's 1v1.
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Post Post #4501 (isolation #646) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:33 am

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Like great, my timing is very suspicious. Vote me. Push me.
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Post Post #4502 (isolation #647) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:34 am

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I completely missed the nested quote of Dunn's LMAO

yep time to vote someone else
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Post Post #4504 (isolation #648) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:36 am

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Does anyone here legitimately believe MathBlade does not push me if they think I'm scum?
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Post Post #4505 (isolation #649) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:37 am

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If they want the day to end they can vote, BM hasn't been in hammer range all game so that's on them.

If they don't want to talk about our slots or don't care what we have to say they can play the goddamn game. No one has been.
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Post Post #4507 (isolation #650) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:44 am

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If you say so. After again saying for Spiffeh, Titus, Tammy, Dunn, etc. to read pages 75-79, I rest my case.
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Post Post #4510 (isolation #651) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:53 am

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contextually it's worse because it cuts out all of the 1600s/1700s which is again probably the scummiest posting I have ever seen in a mafia game but 4 pages, 75-79, about the wagons is readable+accessible. short, quick, to the point

btw bell ur spirit is with me still
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Post Post #4511 (isolation #652) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:54 am

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ok, we have our challenge established thank u MathBlade

THE PRISM SCUMCASE: pages 1-5

THE MATHBLADE SCUMCASE: pages 75-79
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Post Post #4515 (isolation #653) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:34 am

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If we legitimately had 3 dueling scum wagons in Titus, Cakez, Mastina I am going to jump into the black hole myself
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Post Post #4518 (isolation #654) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:39 am

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They actually would have tried to. The only one not on you would have been mastina.

Bork has been very explicit that he is scumclaiming
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Post Post #4519 (isolation #655) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:40 am

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Honestly tempting and I hate this game lmfao
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Post Post #4521 (isolation #656) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:48 am

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Anyone being scum means the others are town. We have 3 of the 4. Not sure what the conditional team argument is here.
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Post Post #4526 (isolation #657) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:57 am

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I really hope Titus is not scum otherwise that votesplit has two scum on each scum wagon and zero on the town one lmao

And I will be CONCERNED if they thought that was a good idea
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Post Post #4530 (isolation #658) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:05 am

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At this point I'm again just wondering if we want to speedgame and call it a day. Titus is kind of starting to play now but everyone else is AWOL

There's a bucket here of (Math, Titus, BM, notsci, me) which is currently ordered but my preference seems to depend on what I had for breakfast that morning or what page I happened to read last. The Pooky scumcase is literally just how playground fighting page 80 is.

We have literally 4 guesses, we can burn all of those and as long as we have one investigative shot it's fine.
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Post Post #4534 (isolation #659) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:11 am

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You're out of date, I'm the spammer now

I became what I hated most
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Post Post #4537 (isolation #660) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:16 am

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In post 1076, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1066, Spiffeh wrote:I'm catching up now but here's a real hot take: The star-crossed siblings MathBlade and Titus are both Town and will be mislimmed this game despite my efforts.

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this post aged so well LMAO
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Post Post #4540 (isolation #661) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:20 am

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but they didn't Pooky

they DIDN'T DO THAT
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Post Post #4542 (isolation #662) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:21 am

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In post 4539, Titus wrote:
In post 4538, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:man this game would've gone so much better for the baddies if cakez and bork had just sheeped LLD and voted mathblade lololol
+1
Okay I hope Titus is scum again just because this would make this post hilarious
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Post Post #4543 (isolation #663) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:22 am

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Pooky, I know you're working through VCA, but who do you prefer atm? I think last we checked in was notsci, has that shifted at all?
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Post Post #4550 (isolation #664) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:34 am

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Like I said I never want to see another SvS wagon again in my life, this should be an easy win but it's in the most befuddling way I have ever seen in my life
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Post Post #4552 (isolation #665) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:36 am

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Literally the reasons to vote Me/MathBlade today are that we're the solves where the scumteam has not been both hardtrolling AND AFK all game lmao
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Post Post #4556 (isolation #666) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:51 am

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I've driven myself insane reading this game. If I post something in the next 24h that isn't voting someone for speedgame yell at me.
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Post Post #4557 (isolation #667) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:53 am

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Final order for me for now is MB->Titus->BM->Notsci->Pooky->Dunn->Tammy->Spiffeh
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Post Post #4562 (isolation #668) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:23 am

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BM is a much better candidate for that criterion Pooky.

Math I get frustrated when you can't parse things accurately (eg. Waiting on Cakez, Spiffeh getting artifact, LLD playing along with the p_a/Cabd transphobic agenda) but the only severe pain point was early Day 2. Your reads, votes, and general play have all been fine and despite me getting annoyed at the "Right no matter what" fundamentally your reads were still better this game than mine and well above the average WH13 town player.
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Post Post #4564 (isolation #669) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:41 am

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In post 3919, borkjerfkin wrote:VOTE: cakez

1080 mctwist
tbh I really didn't think it was possible for someone to troll the game harder than I did with my Cakez hammer but apparently this is the vote that put it at e-1 so uhhhh
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Post Post #4565 (isolation #670) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:47 am

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VOTE: BM

playing mafia is suffering
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Post Post #4566 (isolation #671) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:52 am

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idk, maybe bork scum saw BM flipping to notsci scum, creating two dueling scum wagons, and goes "oh no not again" and decides to just end it all
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Post Post #4567 (isolation #672) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:59 am

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dead pt watching the roulette wheel of prism votes with bated breath
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Post Post #4569 (isolation #673) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:10 am

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At least now I know I am fully capable of harddefending scum for weeks on end, I know I'm bad and I'm ready for it

In Chara's Folly I was a poor sweet summer child
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Post Post #4572 (isolation #674) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:57 am

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To be clear by the way, these votes are all legitimately my top guesses at that point in time

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Post Post #4573 (isolation #675) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:25 am

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I miss Tammatha tbh
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Post Post #4574 (isolation #676) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:26 am

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bork are you settled in yet? any thoughts?
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Post Post #4582 (isolation #677) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 12:05 pm

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mouse & notsci are just too scared they'll look as stupid as me/math tbh
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Post Post #4591 (isolation #678) » Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:42 pm

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Don't think you're going to win paragon that way but I wouldn't know.
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Post Post #4595 (isolation #679) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:41 am

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it's okay bork should be here soon, hopefully that'll help me out a ton
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Post Post #4598 (isolation #680) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:03 am

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One of the big disasters of that Titus wagon is that mastina decided scum weren't in danger, white knight it for credibility in the hopes of getting me Day 2/Day 3, and then we just piledrived them

I can't remember the early votes, I know I helped drive it then pulled off/made the towncase before pushing mastina. Cakez has already been trying to force Titus for awhile at that point, but then Bork also becomes a lot more determined to force Titus through iirc
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Post Post #4600 (isolation #681) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:11 am

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Absolutely spam, yours is the slot people want more from and we are not using all of the pages
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Post Post #4603 (isolation #682) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:14 am

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I liked page 183 a lot from Math which is why I kinda flipped back.

Titus has just been begging to get bussed all game only to have us save her, run up her partners instead and STILL KEEP HER IN THE POE, it's a cold cruel world and there ain't no rest for the wicked.
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Post Post #4605 (isolation #683) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:46 am

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Looking at the end of day vote the bork vote on Cakez makes more sense if BM is scum. It actually points the most to Tammy but lol no

The people off wagon who would have hammered were me, Spiffeh, Titus, Tammy, and BM. The first three all opposed the vote and Tammy seemed indifferent but wanted a lot more discussion...and then I said fuck it I'm playing Assassin's Creed YOLO. Now that's what I call a 1080 mctwist.

Maybe he legitimately decided bussing was a good idea but what a disaster if so.
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Post Post #4606 (isolation #684) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:19 pm

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I have two extremely important game announcements
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Post Post #4607 (isolation #685) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:21 pm

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First, I am now a possum. Please refresh the page. This may or may not be related to an artifact.

Spoiler: Second
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Post Post #4609 (isolation #686) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:52 pm

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I think the best part of this is that "no temporary info in avatars" is in the ruleset but "no other games" is not LMAO

penguin if you or cabd step into the checkerboard arena instead of another player it won't really be gamerelated
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Post Post #4611 (isolation #687) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:15 pm

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the mod still has the respect for us that we gave up ourselves long, long ago

there is hope still
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Post Post #4614 (isolation #688) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:22 pm

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I will eventually but right now I'm 200 miles away from my Xbox and all I've got to entertain me atm is this game and Love in the Time of Cholera in print
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Post Post #4620 (isolation #689) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:47 pm

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bork since we can't play chess can u teach me to grill/smoke meats instead, walk me thru the process

or adopt me as ur child since u sonned me hard this game

or both

P-Edit: it's okay math im the spammer now
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Post Post #4625 (isolation #690) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:56 pm

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sure whatever

just end the day

VOTE: notscience
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Post Post #4626 (isolation #691) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:57 pm

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i've basically given this slot a pass because i don't think notsci is dumb enough to double bus but this assumption could very well be wrong
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Post Post #4628 (isolation #692) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:01 pm

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at least there's a gameplans if it's notscience. bus once, use bork flip to back off

why the fuck bork vote cakez right after bm partner unvotes like what is the POINT

granted this scumteam has been wylin' all game and i am trying to explain the unexplainable
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Post Post #4630 (isolation #693) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:08 pm

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mechanically this is actually the one slot we shouldn't vote because the BM is miller, me/MB/Titus are VT, but meh
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Post Post #4633 (isolation #694) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:14 pm

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Notscience is unclaimed and might be something useful

But honestly a nightkill on Notscience is also useful so lol
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Post Post #4635 (isolation #695) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:28 pm

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can't argue with that
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Post Post #4636 (isolation #696) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:29 pm

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my new dad said if notsci doesn't really post u turboelim him so i gotta listen
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Post Post #4639 (isolation #697) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:42 pm

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It is very obvious he does not have a guilty on you and I don't know why the claim moves the needle towards eliminating him at all for you.
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Post Post #4640 (isolation #698) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:50 pm

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literally he would be claiming into autoloss so like ??? do u know mechanics son

we have literally 4 elims we have plenty of hope we're just lethargic lurksacks lmao
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Post Post #4655 (isolation #699) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:12 am

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I literally do not care atm and just want the day to end.

My preference order atm is BM MB NS Titus
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Post Post #4656 (isolation #700) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:14 am

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I guess I should more critically engage with that wall in a bit, just a bit annoyed at the site downtime+posting while in line at the drive through.
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Post Post #4657 (isolation #701) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:27 am

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VOTE: BM

literally idk what else even makes sense here besides this or math
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Post Post #4660 (isolation #702) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:40 am

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Can Spiffeh/Tammy vote literally any of me, MB, BM, Titus, NS so we can just call it a day

I do think Pooky is right in that there's a world were bork/ns have a real Dame Da Ne moment and think they're setup well after ns convinces bork to voteswap, forgetting that Bell heavily sorted that Spiffeh just got handed an investigative/vig that he was always picking Bork out of the two options for
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Post Post #4661 (isolation #703) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:51 am

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At the end of the day there's a sliding scale for all 5 main candidates, where each of us represents a hypothetical godawful scumplan.

At the bottom is Titus. Titus didn't actually do anything stupid, but her team was a bunch of morons for trying to bus her Day 1.

I would have made a really bad unvote on Titus that cost the scumteam, and let Cakez get flipped when I was the one person in a position to force through something else.

MathBlade stupidly bussed Day 3 but at least he didn't do anything turbodumb Day 1.

BM AFK bussed all game, claimed miller as soon to be last scum, and somehow expected to win.

notscience replaced in and goes "NOW ALL Y'ALL WATCH THIS" and straight up javelin throws the game
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Post Post #4662 (isolation #704) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:58 am

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Let's not even touch on Dunn/Pooky/Tammy hypotheticals because that'e where it loops aound/overflows from "top 10 worst plans in MS history" into "more brainpower than entire nations" territory
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Post Post #4666 (isolation #705) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:02 am

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VOTE: notscience

Sure since the only reason it is town is for the javelin throw
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Post Post #4668 (isolation #706) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:05 am

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In post 4663, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:by the time notty replaced in cakez was pretty much a goner
That's the thing Pooky, he wasn't LMAO
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Post Post #4669 (isolation #707) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:06 am

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Also as much as I hate to do this I....really just don't think 3 of the 5 or 6 main characters are reserved for fakeclaims, would be wild

Myka, Steve, Artie just leaves Pete/Claudia
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Post Post #4671 (isolation #708) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:29 am

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on the other hand BM claims to have forgotten his role Day 1 while jokingly claiming VT the same day, and doesn't that at least make you THINK about it?
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Post Post #4681 (isolation #709) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:34 am

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I don't want to call it a guaranteed win, because it's not, but it just mystifies me why we can't get 6 votes on anyone and have done nothing for like 10 days in a game that is won 80% of the time by mechanics
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Post Post #4683 (isolation #710) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:38 am

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It's still early in the afternoon so I'm not ~panicking~ but considering the deadline is morning tomorrow I would really like it if we could get a flip before midnight. I can go for literally anyone not Dunn/Pooky/Tammy/Spiffeh.
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Post Post #4689 (isolation #711) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:22 pm

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as much as i love tammy she needs to fuckin' vote someone else
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Post Post #4708 (isolation #712) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:16 pm

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This, uh, this was a game.

I had one good read, didn't get in the way of Cakez, and bailed on the other good read to throw my hands up and say "Whatever" Day 4.

Had some fun w/ the town squad, had some "wanna throw my computer in the black hole" with the town squad.
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Post Post #4709 (isolation #713) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:16 pm

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I still feel so bad for DGB, I misread it two games in a row and it STILL BLAMED ITSELF

AT SOME POINT I'M JUST BAD DGB IT'S OK TO SAY IT
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Post Post #4712 (isolation #714) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:21 pm

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pooky ez town mvp though

what a game from the bear
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Post Post #4721 (isolation #715) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:42 pm

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I mean I obviously wish I didn't abandon my GreyICE read just because he disappeared but alas, working myself into paranoid frenzies is what I do
penguin_alien wrote:I didn't specify that they [artifacts] couldn't be passed because I didn't think people would blind-pass potential game power to a player of unknown alignment Night 0.
I'm actually really glad you didn't expect this; wondering how you'd react to this was half the reason I did it. I understood completely that the flavor would likely be NAI, but I realized that the Trident was very weak and really brainstormed to find interesting ways to use it. I was really pleased with the result-it was half of why I was universally townread-even though the argument with Math was mutually tilting.
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Post Post #4722 (isolation #716) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:42 pm

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I'm really happy I wound up connecting so much with Bell this game, glad I found a new dad who could teach me to smoke meats, and yes, Day 1 was quite fun ffery and I was sad to see you dead.
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Post Post #4723 (isolation #717) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:48 pm

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[quote="kuribo"]https://i.ibb.co/c3RR3DX/725860-E0-9732 ... 253-BE.jpg[/url]100% true lmfao, I was always 2nd/3rd but Day 4 I reallyembraced my role as the new MathBlade with open arms

in my defense uh, I was trying to give the game CPR only to discover it was all fruitless and probably just shut the game out even more RIP
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Post Post #4727 (isolation #718) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:02 pm

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He literally could have just claimed the artifact+vig and probably not been voted lmfao
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Post Post #4728 (isolation #719) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:03 pm

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I mean I guess he didn't get voted with the claim he did make

All's well that ends well
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Post Post #4732 (isolation #720) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:44 pm

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The responses to me+lengthy dives into Titus instantly shot you into locktown status imo, without trying to beat up on BM I think it was unfortunate and those were absolutely worth the bang for your buck
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Post Post #4733 (isolation #721) » Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:53 pm

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It's actually cool how we all had bits of the puzzle this Day 2-4, a piece with me, a piece with Spiffeh, a piece with MB, and then at some point Detective Pooky did his best Adrian Monk impression and put all of them together
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Post Post #4756 (isolation #722) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:57 am

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Agree with ffery on the modding front, penguin must have fielded 50 random questions from me on the Trident alone

I concur with Spiffeh that this game was a big step up for Cakez and I got rekt by bork

Definitely enjoyed the playerlist overall despite some intense frustration points, all of which were very brief

I also want to apologize to LLD/MathBlade for how frustrated and vicious I got at points. I ran into similar frustrations in Binding of Isaac, which has been really troubling to me and frankly unacceptable.
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Post Post #4758 (isolation #723) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:17 am

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It was troubling because I hadn't really flamed anyone or gotten angry for ~6 of playing before Binding of Isaac, with kind of the disgruntlement starting in 2171. That's not to excuse the behavior, but to explain that it is very sudden, that I know better, and that it is not a good trend.
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Post Post #4772 (isolation #724) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:25 pm

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Damn it's great that all the players that said they loved playing w/ me show up AFTER the game and not WHEN I WAS CRYING OUT FOR THEM AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY

Kidding, I meant what I said about appreciating Spiffeh, Tammy, Bell, and yes even u bork, and had a blast

It didn't surprise me that bork didn't torpedo the day, it's awful to actually spam the game, but I 100% would not have been so kind and would have probably tried to haggle some agreement out with the mod to cut the day short without making several hundred posts

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