Mystery Mafia 2- Game Over! But who won!?
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forbiddanlight Blowfish
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Given what I've read of the game, that makes a lot of sense. But that would also mean he no killed tonight. Basically it's that N2 kill that seals the deal, since no scum died in the bomb. I'm going to have to agree andVote:Patrick"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Oh, I have a convoluted theory that could be used for Patrick's innocence. I'm not saying it though ^-^
I am expecting to hear him say something about that. That is why I stated no WIFOM comments."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Well, I thank you for your thoughts since no matter what side you are on they do make good analysis fodder. I was actually thinking along the lines that people who blatantly deflected from Lord Hur the last day are probably more likely to be scum. But I'm afraid the evidence feels strongly against you."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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This is along my line of thought. I'd more think a vengeful vig either A)Can vig anyone and does their vengeance immediately after death (not night action), or B) can only vig those who vote for them.
I don't see how a vengeful vig would get a night action after being dead. If they get to target someone I would think that action would occur right away.
Also vig mauling someone still does not fit."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Yeah, he was a vengeful vig. The vengeful kinda tips us off to a similar mechanic.A role that can kill someone immediately after their death is called a vengeful townie. Ashmite was not a vengeful townie."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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forbiddanlight Blowfish
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Oh shit...Patrick, that's a good point right there. It doesn't CLEAR you though because of the night 2 discrepancy...but now you have me thinking :S."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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forbiddanlight Blowfish
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But there IS that bread crumb he pointed out :S. I just don't see him getting a night action after death.Mnomax was Crazed Maniac. I imagine a crazed maniac with knives any day of the week over a vig that mauled people and tore off their limbs."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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forbiddanlight Blowfish
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Dammit, quit reading my mind. I've agreed with you so many times this thread it's getting ridiculous.
I think Patrick has brought up some good points that are hard to ignore. The whole killing after someone is dead I still find highly questionable. And yes I could see someone not killing to make themselves look innocent. But that is all WIFOM. I'm going to read everything from yesterday for my own thoughts.
I'd like to keep a little pressure on Patrick though. I'm no longer 100% for his lynch though. I suppose I might as well do a quick reread soon."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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I'm kinda interested in all these backtracks myself. I like my Patrick vote more now. Why do you presume to know so much about ash's role anyway Patrick? I mean, I don't see any connection, but it's odd that you'll use something you really don't know anything about to defend yourself."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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forbiddanlight Blowfish
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Hell no.
Also waiting to see if anyone else really believes that ashmite (who hasn't posted since Aug 11th) was lynched Aug 18 and a death scene not written till Aug 22nd would have sent the mod a PM. I'm just not believing that for a second.
Well, mostly Lord_hur=werewolf to ash=werewolf vig. I think you are grasping at anything that might save you.
Which ones are those again?
Well, yeah, except you probably aren't town. Ash wasn't around to maim, and I still doubt you get a night action after death :S.
Put yourself in my position as town. What other plausible theory is there? I certainly can't see any other way it could have happened.
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forbiddanlight Blowfish
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This is pretty much my thoughts.
As a vengeful vig I can see someone getting to attack back right away, however I don't see as I stated someone who has been gone sending a PM to the mod declaring an action."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Well, we could theorize that things are so screwed up the mafia mauls and werewolves shoot. And really, I can't think of any other theory that would make you not scum. I guess the only thing you can do is cling to ashmites role with whatever you can think of :S.
This is a dodge of what I asked you. You've said you think I'd be pushing the vengeful vig theory if I was scum. That's true. But the convenient point being missed is that it's also perfectly reasonable from the protown perspective as well. Saying "yeah but I don't think you're town" is a cop out. I'll ask you again: If I'm town, do you think it's reasonable for me to think that ashmite killed those players? A straight answer this time please. The accusation that I'm backtracking holds no water - my stance changed significantly because of significant new information. In fact, I'm not sure how it couldn't have changed."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Maybe I'm coasting too much on others posts. It's known to happen with me when I'm starting to get into a game. I still think you are scum clinging too much to the ash theory though, even without backtracking.In that case, I don't see how it's reasonable to accuse me of backtracking."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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I guess so. It's just that it's implausible. The only good thing is that breadcrumb you found but I honestly don't feel that's enough to counter ash's absence and venge kill during the night AFTER death?As any alignment it's obvious I'm going to cling onto the only plausible theory where I'm innocent. I don't see how I can be clinging onto it too much."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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From what farside is saying, this wasn't just this game. This was on the whole site.I don't see the big deal about ashmite's posting dropping off - not posting isn't the same thing as not around. Even now his sig claims limited access, not a crisis forcing him to leave entirely. I think he was still around and couldn't be bothered to post (he did mention he was having difficulties drawing conclusions)."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Can I start by buying the empty glass? I'll give my coin to someone who needs a push to get the Vodka shots. Is everyone ok with this?"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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We want to test every item right? And plus, the cheapest thing might be the most awesome (well, nothing beats the awesome of a shot gun, but still)."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Actually, this is a very salient point. I don't want Pat in lylo, for sure, or even able to cause lylo, but for now, we could definitely go for someone else. I kinda got tunneled on the current case...sorry :S.
Also, having re-read Patrick, his play seems to make a lot more sense than it did reading along. I no longer intend to vote him. The vengeful vig theory really has a lot of evidence behind it. Besides, think. If he's trying to argue that that kill wasn't him, even if it was, he can't do it again all game or it gives him away. I'm fine with that."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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And I don't trust anything after the bomb. Moving along, what can I do with my empty glass besides beat people over the head with it?"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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If I explode here too I'm going to have to say that I just attract various combustion driven events.Litral wrote: 8"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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So, suppose in theory the item I had was able to vig someone. Would anyone oppose to me smashing Patrick over the head? Or is there any other request for me to kill?"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Let me rephrase that. I strongly believe what I can do is a vig ability. I can smash someone on the head with my empty glass. Assumably that's deadly."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Which is exactly why I'm asking the town who I should smack. Or if I should just smack Patrick and get rid of the WIFOM, since I still feels the odds are him being scum. And this way we don't waste a lynch on him."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Nope. I was with the team that said Patrick is likely scum, but he can't kill because he gives himself away. But, since a vig lets us keep our lynch (I assume it's a vig?), I'm willing to spend it on patrick. Resolves potential endgame problemselvis_knits wrote:
I would rather you use your own judgement. I thought you didn't think Patrick was scum anymore.forbiddanlight wrote:Which is exactly why I'm asking the town who I should smack. Or if I should just smack Patrick and get rid of the WIFOM, since I still feels the odds are him being scum. And this way we don't waste a lynch on him.
So wait, my empty glass was the deadliest thing around? SCORE!
Since I can understand having me use my own judgement...(less scum influence)
Smash glass on the back of Patrick's head"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Easy. Rather than having one town directed kill, we would get two. It's still a lynch, but also at the discretion at one person if need be.Well, if that's it for me, then you have my thoughts out there. Still recommend getting forbiddanlight to put some real content out there; don't let her continue to leech off of farside. The argument she used to vig me didn't make a whole lot of sense either: a directed dayvigging is effectively the same as lynching, so I don't see how "we won't have to waste a lynch on him" fits in.
Essentially by vigging you, it's still day, and we've resolved some WIFOM that becomes increasingly dangerous as end game approaches. To be honest, I don't think we could have kept you alive much longer. Too much risk. Even if you can't kill, if you are a mafia body, you still win given the right conditions which could all too easily occur. Especially say a lylo without your theoretical kill, but with your kill causes a lost game anyway.
We'll see what we think when you flip. But I would like to say I agree that I need to post more actual content. I'm trying to figure out who else is scum if anyone right now.
My other suspects remain as stated, not sure on the order. If Lawrencelot is unable to actually post for today then I'd hesitate to lynch him and maybe go for another candidate. Fonz and SSK need to post a wider range of opinions too; Fonz defending me might be a point in his favour but I wouldn't hang my hat on it.
I'm still iffy on if I should have waited for more opinions, but after reading e_k's post I thought about the fact that a split town HANDS my vig to the scum lowering the chance of successful scum vig. In the end it's right to give in to my impulse in this instance."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Also, Patrick's reaction doesn't confirm him. I messed up. I should have been 100% certain it was a vig and see if he played his hand early. If he lives, be continually wary."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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That was weird for me. Anxiousness. I can show you my...eagerness to shoot at the slightest approval in other games I think. But one's ongoing on another site.
As for depriving your group of a scumkill, does that matter as long as you stay alive to suddenly screw us in endgame?"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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It's one of the problems with my play style. I change directions constantly and trip myself when I do this. I tend to get lynched because of this..hyperactive reasoning? I guess is what it can be called. Like, right now, I've probably had three different reasons for vigging you and listening to e_k. They may or may not be exclusive. Either way, it comes out as panic to most people.
And no, endgameprobably[/ii] isn't around the corner. But there's still the possibility that worries me. Personally, I think vigging you was the best way to resolve the issue about that kill. It will also give us data about how much and what direction your stances were going for."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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As in if you don't say you die because of the drunkards you get MK'd?MafiaSSK wrote:
Part of my role PM.forbiddanlight wrote:That is odd. Why would SSK lie about that though? Jester?"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Damn...we were wrong...I'm sorry I wasted the vig :S.
Moving along, I'll do a quick reread either tonight or tomorrow to see who's scummy."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Well, I know you are wrong. Should be interesting to see what happens with this wagon though. It will give a lot of data.
Also, if you want to see what I do as scum, Mini 635 is a good example. You should know by now I'm fitting my town meta more than my scum meta. I realize this data is useless due to my awareness, but what other defense can I really make? I vigged someone and I was wrong."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Congratulations on killing another townie, Tony.
Fonz, if you attack me for "line of least resistance", you BETTER turn up the pressure on Tony.
Unless you are scum, of course."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Actually, I mean about the previous position that Patrick was scum. We were wrong about that. I realize that I was wrong about shooting him, but you all were spending a lot of time discussing him, me included."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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I'd like to mention I'm going V/LA starting Thursday, but I'm going to be low activity most of this week anyway. I should be back monday.
Wait, deadline in two days? Crap...
Well, if you have to, lynch me. I'd prefer someone else to be lynched but I'm going to be out of commission for the rest of this day, and any lynch is better than no lynch."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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This is his current explanation. I want to see more.MafiaSSK wrote:
It was aobut not allowing my fellow townies not to drink.forbiddanlight wrote:
As in if you don't say you die because of the drunkards you get MK'd?MafiaSSK wrote:
Part of my role PM.forbiddanlight wrote:That is odd. Why would SSK lie about that though? Jester?"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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You've been caught in a lie. This is a situation where you full claim to the point before modkill.MafiaSSK wrote:
I'd have to full-claim.forbiddanlight wrote:
This is his current explanation. I want to see more.MafiaSSK wrote:
It was aobut not allowing my fellow townies not to drink.forbiddanlight wrote:
As in if you don't say you die because of the drunkards you get MK'd?MafiaSSK wrote:
Part of my role PM.forbiddanlight wrote:That is odd. Why would SSK lie about that though? Jester?"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Sorry, I'm not sure I really buy that, but I don't know why I don't. I mean, why would you put yourself out there like that as scum...but the roleclaim seems...iffy?"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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You know, I noticed this as well, but forgot about it .
You realize you supported mafiassk lynch yesterday but didn't vote him.
I also find it interesting Tony Montana started the "Finish what we started yesterday" thing and then suddenly 180s on it. What happened?
And seriously, hypocop only benefits scum IMO. It narrows down their choices for cop killing. Why the hell would you support this, Fonz?"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Fair enough. I just wanted a bit more explanation.
2 people jumped on the wagon. I didn't 180, I just backed off to stop a quick lynch."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Or makes it damned obvious who that role is ENSURING their death. Also, we don't know the interactions of the strong drink either. Essenitally though, the scum benefit far more from a hypo claim then town does.
A hypoaction means that if one of these roles should die, we can then go back and evaluate things. It's better to risk that than have a role which has info die unclaimed.
Because your opinion, as so often, is wrong.
And deadline was fast approaching. Not buying it.
When farside voted him, that was a lynching majority.
"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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LEt's say it was a doc protect. They claim and their protection. It matches the scum kill. WHOOOPS! Rb claims, say they blocked a supposed scum. The scum know who they are. They kill the Rb. We might catch a scum. There's still WIFOM. WHOOPS
Except that in this case, scum don't know if the kill was stopped by doc, rb, or jk, so they don't know what they're looking for.
Same problem with Jailkeeper.
We don't know. And more importantly, WE DON'T KNOW IF THE DRINKS HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT!
In conclusion, hypoclaim is worse than useless for the town.
Obviously it hadn't been. Or SSK would have been lynched. I think you are lying about your ignorance.
What difference does that make if THE LYNCH MAJORITY HAS ALREADY BEEN ACHIEVED?
That's just not true.
Prove it. I've stated why it is true."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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I don't think landlord was a real player. But if he was, awesome.I think we need to settle this by hearing from the other two who were effected.
mod: please prod literal and landlord
But, I do mostly agree. I highly doubt they'll claim "Oh yeah, totally couldn't do night actions while intoxicated""Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Let's put this one to the public.
You've come out with a load of words that barely form a coherent sentence, let alone a coherent idea about mafia.
Does anyone who ISN'T trying to misrepresent me understand my point about why a hypoclaim is damaging?
I'm sorry, I don't usually get this annoyed, but FUCK YOU. If you can't actually be bothered to read the thread, I've had it with you. Check the list of people voting SSK in BM's end of day post. Is farside on it? no. If she had been, he would have been lynched
Obviously it hadn't been. Or SSK would have been lynched. I think you are lying about your ignorance.
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ceding this point. I didn't read timestamps. You are right. But I refuse the offer. I don't even like you that much, much less desire to commit such a carnal act ."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Then I misunderstood you. This is actually passably null to slightly beneficial for the town weighed against what the scum gets. I am in support.
Close, but no cigar. Everyone states 'I either targetted X, or did nothing.'
They very definitely don't claim 'i blocked x' which is why forbiddanlight's argument doesn't make sense. Basically, if we knew that the kill was caused by a roleblocker, then it would definitely be wise to claim rather than risk dying with that info unclaimed. If we knew it's a doc, it's pretty much a wash. The value of the information is greater than that of keeping the power role alive as opposed to any other role.
And I'm rather annoyed that FL believes i don't understand her argument, just because i think it's wrong.
Actually, this is what led me to believe you failed to understand
You've come out with a load of words that barely form a coherent sentence, let alone a coherent idea about mafia.
Well, part of me wants any doctors/RBs to claim, to establish if it was incapacitation due to strong drink or an action that prevented the kill, but the other part says this is a horrible idea since it gives way too much scum info, so for now, I'd rather sit on this.
If we knew there was no doctor, an RB should just claim and be done with it.
Either way, I think we've cleared everything up, Fonz. SSK still needs to die."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Alright, fair enough. I just worked through some logic patterns and you are right. Fine, I support hypoclaim.
@ Forbiddanlight: Has it not occurred to you that, if the kill failed because the scum killer was too drunk, then a hypo won't tell them anything?"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Wow, never been in a game with Mr.Flay! That's awesome .
Anyway, as for the kills, I think we understand why Fonz wanted a hypo claim.
So, it's pretty obvious, at least to me, that we need toVote Tony Montanaas per the Fonz' block."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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