Martyr Mafia - Game Over

[pacman281292]

NOOO
ME MUST HAS RANDOMVOTE!

vote: Wickedestjr

because.

[pacman281292]

mm...this is weird.

MOD: PROD INACTIVES

FoS: zwetchenwasser that was stupid

[pacman281292]

Sorry. been busy.

mm so what are we doing? does someone have a plan to play now?

[pacman281292]

pacman:

Has 3 posts. A late random vote, a request for prods (ironic) combined with an FoS of ZSW, and a question of "What do we do?"

I've been busy, and I don't get this game.

Pacman isn't that good a reason to start buddying up

WTF.
WHERE AM I BUDDYING UP

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Pacman, could you put that quote in context? I can't find the post where I said that. Why are you repeating your excuse of "being confused" over and over again? All you have to do is read the first post of the game. You are now more than ever, number 2 on my scum list.

I'm not confused about the structure; I'm confused about how to go on here. And no, reading the 1st post of the game won't help me. I KNOW the setup.
[sarcasm]You are now more than ever, number 1 on my scum list. Yeah; there is scum on this game.[/sarcasm]

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I'm confused about how to go on here.

Then just God-hunt. Do you think cult leaders are bussing/distancing or ignoring God? Do you think God is vocal or lurking? State a theory and see who matches that description.

Because right now I'm more than willing to believe a rational God would stay under the radar unless prompted to speak or they can safely latch on to a discussion that does not call too much attention to them. I think cult leaders will not bus their god but safely distance when the spotlight is on someone else making a distraction. So Zakeri and pacman are a few people that fit my idea of God.

PHEW!
thanks. Now my brain will not explode, as I thought would happen.

@zsujdbcjeklbveawasser or whatever it is: You are actively lurking, hypocrite.

He's god.

YOU are god.

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@zsujdbcjeklbveawasser or whatever it is: You are actively lurking, hypocrite.

Fail. He is not lurking. He's posted 52 times, and even though they are one-liners, we still certainly know where he stands on many more things than you do
.

He

knows

where he stands? Excuse me; he's actively lurking with his ******* one-liners, he is annoying...
I'm inactive. Yeah, I admit. But zswetchen is worse than inactive. His posts are getting me insane; he votes, then changes his vote 10 minutes later. Then, he keeps parroting and saying useless stuff. He is definitely annoying me.

Vote: zswetchenwasser

or whatever it is.

[pacman281292]

He

knows

where he stands? Excuse me; he's actively lurking with his ******* one-liners, he is annoying...
I'm inactive. Yeah, I admit. But zswetchen is worse than inactive. His posts are getting me insane; he votes, then changes his vote 10 minutes later. Then, he keeps parroting and saying useless stuff. He is definitely annoying me.

Show this stuff. I think ZSW has been pretty pro-town. The only 2 charges I've heard levied against him are that his posting style is disenchanting and that he shouldn't have joked about being CL or God.

?
mm... I definitely dislike his posts. He says stuff and doesn't explain, and then he confuses me.

Well; If I forgot asking this, this is the first time I ask this, and if I've done this before, I really want to get an explanation NAOW:
DGB, Please elaborate why do you think I'm god.
There is a Jah quote that really made me lol. Where is it... let me search a bit...

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zOMG I fail I didn't see it...

My case for pacman being Gos is still valid.

My meta question on pacman is still valid. Have you seen or played a game with him where he didn't lurk and avoid scumhunting?

lol

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Pacman, you seem godish because you are pretending to be confused and posting almost no content. Ea, DGB has been pushing the Pacman case for a while now, which I find consistent enough to not be scummy. I have no read on quints. And I never said that Jebus has a context scumtell. You're putting words in my mouth. +scumpoints.

mm... I'm not pretending to be confused: I AM INDEED confused. There are liitle things you can find as "god tells" (and mostly if you are a phailed scumhunter *glares at myself*), because god is NOT an usual role. The nearest thing God looks to be would be a SK... but...
Also, as i've stated a billion times, your one-liners had no content

and

were really annoying.
Also, answering question i forgot who made to me: I have no read on qwints (I didn't note him playing at all!), neither in ting =).

Ouch. I need to reread. I must remember to not keep havind three-day gaps pf activity *rereads*

humm...

@Pacman: I hope you don't think I'm giving you a free pass just because I say you're following the town meta I have on you. We need unity here.

Is pacman's active lurking consistent with meta or wot???

@jah: I don't think so.
And, @ortolan: I'm not actively lurking based on meta.

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He continues to claim that I'm adding no content, and is adamant in his assertion that he's confused, when he admits that the proper way to scumhunt god would be near to an SK hunt. Argh. Too many scummy players in here.

I did say you are adding no content? you WERE not adding content. That post I quoted DO have content.
And, nice try guy. If I knew how to hunt for a SK in a game where the "SK" is not exactly a SK (as the Cult Leaders will deffend him), that would be easier, thank you.

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I don't like quotes. You don't have to. I'd just like an explanation excluding my crazy posts from yesterday which I regret.

mm... if you have nothing to say, don't spam. Every thing you say can be used against you (as now).

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I don't see how SP "outed" himself as scum and I don't see how anyone could get to that interpretation from that quote.

mm... if you have nothing to say, don't spam. Every thing you say can be used against you (as now).

Interesting. It sounds like pacman wants zwet to shut up before he says too much and gets killed.

mm...
You are misinterpretating. I meant that posting those shameless spammy distracting posts are bad. He is distracting the discussion, and breaking it, so it's hard to catch some info. I dislike that. So, he must stop doing that. Am I clear?

[pacman281292]

No, active lurker scum.

That's the reason I'm voting you

[pacman281292]

I'm not an active lurker. You just barely started actually playing this game. The only fluffing I've done was yesterday's craziness.

No; I meant the total nonsense one-liner.

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Many of my one-liners have meaning, pacman, more meaning than you might care to admit.

mm... unfortunately, I can't see it.
In many situations, your one-liners are distracting discussion, and they make us loss time.
Now, I'll stop this one-liner war.

[pacman281292]

Happy birthday Jahudo!

This game has been a lot messier than some of my others so I'm giving it less attention. I'm still pretty sure that Jebus knows who god actually is, but I'm in favor of killing annoying people.

vote: zwet

The only thing I agree here are:

Happy birthday Jahudo!

... and

vote: zwet

qwints, please explain why do you think Jebus knows who is god.
Also: don't intentionally dismiss the game. If you don't like it, tell the mod to relace you. Yeah, it's confusing. And messy. But I really like it

[pacman281292]

!!! Can you say wishy-washiness please the town?

Unvote; Vote: quints

*agrees*

mm... three days to deadline...
I'll keep my vote in zswet for now, but when the deadline arrives (or possibly tomorrow, as I might have LA friday) I'll make my final choice.

Btw:

MOD: Please, can you post a votecount?

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mm... well, there is no time, going on nolynch would just give cult leaders extra time to recruit, so I will

unvote, vote: qwints.

I'm starting to believe qwints is culted...

[pacman281292]

mm... well, there is no time, going on nolynch would just give cult leaders extra time to recruit, so I will

unvote, vote: qwints.

I'm starting to believe qwints is culted...

Then why the FUCK are you voting him you berk?

'CAUSE I'M NOT SURE! STOP SWEARING AT ME!
AND ALSO, HOW MANY TIME TO DEADLINE?... LIKE ONE DAY YET?

It's even better to lynch a scum than lynching no one. Still when it's not god or cult leader. The other option is DGB, with three votes, and I'm also tempted to vote him, but there is no TIME. I don't think we can change 7 people's minds (or even more, if you wanna lynch another guy) in ONE day.
Also, if qwints is cultist, and we don't lynch him, we get three cults that would have three people each one. With God's NK, we would get in the best of the (realist) cases 8 cultists, God, Nietzsche and 10 townies, that gives us a really stretch margin of error to win.

[pacman281292]

SLAMMAH HAMMAH!
Well, night now. Good night everyone!
*hopes Nietzsche isn't killed*

[pacman281292]

OMFG!!!

HE BELIEVES IN GOD HE'S SCUM!!!
jk lol

[pacman281292]

that was a joke

[pacman281292]

Due to Internet issues, I'll be V/la at least 'till March 1.

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Okay....I promised a real post. The only problem is, i have no idea where to start...there's so much that needs covered.
This probably isn't the best idea or one that people would like, but if i could have certain points people would like addressed, i can do that....but with me having to move next week, life is nuts and i can't seem to think straight. I don't want to replace out or anything, but it may actually come to that....but i'll do my best so it isn't. So if people could bear with me and possibly help me out a bit until i get settled, that would be awesome, thanks.

Strong FoS: xofelf. If you said "I'm making a good post", don't put lots of excuses in your next post, and try to put what u can.

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Hey look, some filler from pacmanscum

NOOO NOT OTHER INSANE ZSWET NOO

and if he was God, Quints wouldn't have pointed him out.

There is another case you didn't consider *cough WIFOM cough*

[pacman281292]

He is starting to act as you did in middle D1. that scares me.
Also, I ask for explanation (WAIT, I DIDN'T! Well, I'll do now).

[pacman281292]

Hey look, some filler from pacmanscum

NOOO NOT OTHER INSANE ZSWET NOO

I know you only say this because your post was filler and you are afraid to admit it. Scum.

He is starting to act as you did in middle D1. that scares me.
Also, I ask for explanation (WAIT, I DIDN'T! Well, I'll do now).

Active lurking is an offense punishable by lynch mob. Is that a good enough reason?

BTW your focus on this point instead of far more relevant ones is confirmation that you are avoiding having to contribute.

First: be clear on what you say. One-liner fashion is ununderstandable and annoying, mostly if you aren't good at english.
Second: *facepalm* I'm V/LA. I don't know if I said it before.
Also, I didn't post to another things because I had no time.
Rereading at swift speed, with possible post soon.

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nominate pacman for: always V/LA

Who are you to call one-liner fashion annoying? You post alot of one-liners yourself.

Why did you give up on finding scum with 48 hours on day 1 and vote for someone you thought was a cult recruit?
Why were you so happy about the hammer?

Here's some motivation for your re-read:

unvote

Vote: pacman281292

mm... If I didn't have those issues, I wouldn't have said I was V/LA. I'm no longer V/LA on monday.

Those nonsense sarcasm one-liners are ununderstandable. but, I understand; I'll try to improve my posts... however, I've had near-no time to make rereads on last 2 weeks, as I must check on internet cafes.

About my qwints-jump: Get over the fact there was NO TIME to get someone else lynched. qwints was very likely to be culted=scum, so it was our best choice (the other was to derail the wagon on someone else, and that would be near-impossible due to no time and no mutual agreement on anyone). Nolynch was to give up a night for cults to recruit.

I was happy about hammah, because we had lynched scum. And because we didn't fall in nolynch, despite of the stretch time margin.

And, a better motivation for a reread would be having my internet back... (and I will have it on monday, so be sure I'll make all that on monday, and I will have a good post for tuesday)

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WAAA. TOO MANY HOMEWORK TO ME
Rereading still in process. sorry, got no time yesterday due to homework.

With my current analysis, I'm leaning towards Pacman as god, due to blatant distancing from DGB.

Vote: Pacman281292

??!!??!
WTH do you mean here. I'm god because DGB is distancing from me?
Sorry, I don't get the logic.
...

OK, let's see. DGB is saying "pac is god pac is god lynxlynx" without voting. So, he is blatantly distancing from me. So, I must be god.
Answer: WIFOM backfires on you. haha.

FoS: zakeri.

Is this international Post Like Zwetschenwasser day?

well it looks like it

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mm... as far as I can see:

DGB

: HOP IN THIS!

Vote: DGB

just kidding.

Unvote

I think she is cult. His messy hop-in-the-wagon is very cultish.

zwet

: one-liner king is cult. His behaviour and claims are obvcult tellers.

mykonian

: haven't paid much attention. reading him...

Zakeri

: ortolan's 1033 is a brief resume of what I think of her attack. Distancing from DGB... First: he was saying "pac is lurking god" and I didn't reply to that, knowing that that was very likely to be a joke (mostly given that I think she is cult, and that she is DGB). And that makes you say I'm god... FAIL LOGIC
Second: Your vote has no foundation on anything more than DGB distancing. And that attack is (imo) enough bad flawed. Try again, God.

Vote: Zakeri

. "yeah pac is OMGUSING scumscumscum".

Jebus

: Usual lurker, posts very little content (falling into the level of zwet-style one-liners). Very likely to be cult IMO.

hp[leaves]

: Haven't said much. I might say he is agnostic, but that's more like a gut feeling.

al_kohaulec

: Lurking, only one post with useful content.

Double A

: Insane lurker. heh.
No read.

Indigo

: STOP LURKING OR GET REPLACED MY ****!!!!!!!!


More later. No time.

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It's not obvious that DGB is culted.

Either she is, or she is more insane than what we thought.
Adel's reasoning is good, but I'm still not sure. Zakeri, are you there?

[pacman281292]

Jebus --- 9 {Adel, DrippingGoofball, SilverPhoenix, populartajo, Double A, hp [leaves], X, ortolan, Jahudo}

whoa

FoS: hp[leaves], Jebus.

I think Jebus was too fishy at yelling "I'M FRIEDRICH"... and hp's gambit was horrible.

I think they may be cults trying to set a trap... or possibly god and one cult?
hmm...

FoS: ortolan, Jahudo

. Speed up the wagon in order to play the gambit... or no?
humm...

(note: I'm being only theoretical. I may or may nor be right. I hope I'm right.)

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ADEL AND DGB STOP FUCKING YELLING AND THINK WHAT ARE U DOING! WE HAVE ONLY ONE FUCKING DAY TO LYNCH SOME SCUM OR ELSE WE LOSE! DON'T ANSWER OTHER'S ACCUSATION WITH A FUCKING "ur scum and everyone not voting [person] is scum along with you"!!!

srry for caps. those wasteful yells are really fucking me.

His attempted hammer, which I doubt was a gambit.

eehh... that was a gambit. hp knew he was fakehammering, and made that in order to fish for info. That's a gambit.



I don't know who to vote. Jebus' claim is imo usual for ANY kind of scum (CR and god principally), but nor for agnostics (unless he is playing a very horrible countergambit). However, there is also the possibility he is Friedrich; in such case, the pressure claim would be justified. mm... WIFOM...
hp's gambit was really awful, and imo very scummy (and worse given the prior speedwagon). I think he may be a Cult, or even God. However, this is really confusing. I'm going to decide later.

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*note:

If Jebus is Nietzsche he either has to kill today or tonight.

If he kills today...
1) We have a chance to kill God.
2) We know Jebus isn't God or CL, which helps us make a more informed lynch.

If he uses his kill tonight...
1) We have a chance to kill God.
2) Jebus has 1 less person to choose from in his NK decision.

I think Jebus should use his day kill because if it fails to find God then we rely on town judgment.

Goodposting. If Jebus is Nietzsche, he outed himself, and God would kill him overnight. So, he must use his kill now, or lose it.
If he is scum, god will kill him, unless he knows he is scum (i.e. he is CR)

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EBWOP: unfortunately, we only have 3 days to do...

[pacman281292]

Zswet is insane.
Please, you are the one stalling.

BTW, the votecount is horrible, and unless Jebus proves us he is Nietzsche (or else), he will die. If he is indeed Nietzsche...


I just hope he is scum.
Jebus, act NAOW.

[pacman281292]

My internet failed, and I'm having an horrific V/LA (worsened due to huge amounts of homework).

So... is Jebus nietsche or no?

[pacman281292]

My internet failed, and I'm having an horrific V/LA (worsened due to huge amounts of homework).

So... is Jebus nietsche or no?

No, he's a cult leader (probably islamic). The real Nietsche must have figured out he was one and killed Jahudo, his first suspect for God.

Or Jebus is totally God.

Vote Jebus

hp u're a total idiot..
or cult¿

X didn't though.

Speaking of which:

X: if you haven't noticed, zwetschenwasser thinks I'm God, so he would be dead. That way I wouldn't die by an agnostic. Also he isn't very nice.

Although what I mean and what you think I meant are totally different...

WIFOM.

I see that Looker has been lurking, and ignored the game. Also, the AA case is being pushed by two obvcultists (zwet and DGB). I think AA is cult too.

Only a distracted god would kill Adel, as killing Jebus just wins the game for him. So, I say it's Looker, unless I'm missing someone else, or AA, zwet and DGB are playing a gambit.

No agnostic vote Jebus, please.

Vote: Looker.

Aslo: Mod: can you replace indigo now or no? he is near-absent from the game...

[pacman281292]

I received a sudden vibe...

Rereading mykonian carefully RIGHT NOW. Meanwhile keeping voet on Lurker (srry looker)

[pacman281292]

dgbm what about your cult?
ive heard that men can have 7 women?

In my cult, men have alpacas. Up to 300. Women are not persons.

lol
.............
double a is not god, the wagon grew too fast and its being pushed by obv cultists
cult me?

*agrees with "cult me" guy*

I haven't been culted. Isn't that obvious, considering how much I've been pressing for god's lynch?

I don't believe in you. I'm Agnostic.
Seriously, you are simply straightforward pushing a wagon on a guy who is just a single wtf noob.

It's so obvious that Double A is god. I mean, LOOK how everyone's distancing from him as much as possible.

Everyone is "distancing" because NO ONE ELSE BELIEVES DOUBLEA IS GOD, AND YOU DON'T EXPLAIN WHY THE F**K DO YOU THINK AA IS GOD.

I'm going to have no electronics until the end of May. (ONE slightly bad grade. A C+)

So can you (Lord Gurgi) replace me please?

Also, I'm not god... If I was I would have killed all you who think I am by now. Espically zwet cause he doesn't know when to shut up.

I don't like this post (especially the part "If I was God, I would bla bla bla, as that is WIFOM), but reasons to leave are justified.

The only bad things I see on AA are his "If I was..." statements. Also, he haven't contributed much. If you could take teh time to check his posts and then go up with a serious case on AA, zwet, then people may evaluate it and then follow, but if you keep that way, everyone will lynch you. Stop spamming, and get a serious post.

FoS: zwet

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I'm seeing DoubleA as god at the moment.

First, our god makes the mistake of not quickkilling our nietzsche for a quick win

, which is something only someone inexperienced and unsure about the roles would do.

Then, he comes up today with a revote on Jebus for the reason that "oh, god's son is scum"

He's clearly trying to kill Jebus, but at the same time is confused as to his powers, all of which perfectly fits DoubleA.

OMG YOU HAVE PRECOGNITION POWERS OMGOMGOMG.
Seriously, that means you don't know the game as well.

Many people did so, and you don't mention them...

There are more peoples that fit inside that category. Try again.

[pacman281292]

EBWOP:

RTFT too.

[pacman281292]

STOP VOTING ZWET U SLACKERS HE IS CULT

[pacman281292]

In other news...

(

Unvote

, just in case AA voted.)

These players know about Jebus's full-claim, and had absolutely no reason to not kill him (Assuming no elaborate WIFOM tactic): SilverPhoenix, al_kohaulec, ortolan, X, mykonian, Jebus (LOL), ZSW, MafiaSSK. And, to a lesser extent, hp [leaves].
None of these players are God. hp [leaves] is the only exception, but if hp was God and knew that Jebus wasn't a Cult Leader, I'm pretty sure that he would have still killed him. In addition, I think that Bloodmoney would have killed Jebus N1, but that is more of a hunch than anything based on data. Somebody would have to provide a good case on hp before I move her to the other column.

-bla bla bla-

Mask man/Alvinz95

: He begins by stating that starting to play cultist early is better than playing agnostic, and that we shouldn't try to find God. He continues to try and push apathy to lynching God, stating that the town is probably screwed anyway. He then strawmans Jebus, adding in statements that are clearly not there. Lurks for a while, apologizes for his lurking, is suspicious of Jebus throughout. He provides some content, but not a particularly enormous amount. He criticizes DGB for utilizing the too townie policy, and then states that Jebus was "Trying too hard to seem townie".

His contribution devolves into 1-3 line posts, and yet he feels that it's appropiate to criticize tajo for his "I'll contribute later" post. He starts to state suspicions (Such as "zwet+jebus cult", and then doesn't back them up with evidence from the thread.) States that he finds everybody to be scummy. (That is a sign of paranoia. Scum are far more likely to either be paranoid, because they know that the majority is against them, or pretend to be paranoid, as they think that townies are more likely to be.)

He active lurks, and doesn't seem to be paying a great deal of intention. He multiple times talks of a Christian recruit, despite the fact that qwints claimed his recruit- Jebus. Before he disappears he makes a summary post that is full of IIoA. And he posts this- "did he make an epic shit on the agnostics sidewalk that I didn't notice, that was soooo obv it didn't need explaination?" Is it just me, or does it sound like he's talking about an outside group?

Then Alvinz posts a couple one-liners, jumps onto my wagon, and shows rather obviously (IMO) feigned ignorance about the mechanics of the game ("There's a cult for every god?").

I feel that Alvinz/Mask man is

extremely likely to be God

Looker/Zakeri

: Admits to have been tunneling on Jebus in the early-game, as he thought that he was reduced to random voting when the debate regarding Jebus ended. It is revealed, however, that he stopped pressuring Jesus for a rather silly reason (That he felt that Jebus's questioning did not have an end result in mind.) He states that he was hoping to get reactions through the RVS, and then contradicts this idea in a later statement. Says that she's going to reread, and then backs off on it. Gives an "analysis" of four different players, which consists of just quotes and judgements, which amounts to a lot of IIoA. Uses WIFOM to try and get EA off him. (NOTE: EA dies that night.)

States that he's surprised that he wasn't lynched D1. Now this is a non-Godtell, as since the 3 CLs wouldn't want them lynched, there's no reason why they would be lynched D1. Still rather scummy though. Another slight non-Godtell is the fact that supposedly Jebus couldn't have been Neitzche because God didn't kill him, and yet knew that he couldn't be recruited. God knew who the CLs were, so it's likely that God would have killed him to be sure. Yet, Jebus remained alive.

Looker has just been a lurker. Hasn't provided any content, despite stating that he is reading the thread. Pretty God-like, but he hasn't made commitment for or against the AA wagon, or any wagon for that matter. I'd say that alvinz's active lurking is more scummy than Looker's lurking.

Looker's behavior is extremely scummy, and Zakeri is pretty scummy, but I find Mask man worse.

Nonetheless, I find Zakeri

Pretty likely to be God

Mask man being God explains why Jebus survived two nights (Mask man thought that there was a Christian recruit), and has been a tad more scummy than Looker/Zakeri, IMO.

Vote: Alvinz95

whoa...
Pretty good analysis. I don't understand well the MM part, but I think it's more my limited english skills than a weird statement.

[pacman281292]

Meh.

Unvote, Vote: zwetschenwasser

Unvote, vote: alvinz95.

[pacman281292]

Fact: Jebus is Nietzsche
Fact: God was an idiot to not NK Nietzsche

People that were/are clueless idiots:
Me (according to some)
PieisPopcorn's predecessor (DoubleA)

Conclusion:
PieisPopcorn is God.

WHY DON'T YOU ALL SEE THIS??

BECAUSE your list is incomplete. There were a few lurking idiots that didn't see the kill (indigo, alvinz, looker). Also, AA and you saw the kill.

[pacman281292]

zwet is WIFOMing us, and we are falling on that? OMG...

[pacman281292]

EBWOP: I meant about his insanity.

[pacman281292]

Who I think are god: alvinz and looker. I've already stated why.

[pacman281292]

WAIT
Is this a gambit or what?

Unvote

[pacman281292]

ugh... everyone please calm down.
I have no idea waht happened there. So, I need

MOD: votecount please?

[pacman281292]

STOP VOTING ALVINS. CALM DOWN AND WE DECIDE ON LATER.

...but a possibility for someone like DGB. mykonian has become agnostic in my eyes.

DGB is insane, but not stupid. I don't think she would lure away a win in such way.

[pacman281292]

She could be doing the machismo thing of trying to win the hard way by getting Jebus lynched. The human ego is a powerful thing...

lol

[pacman281292]

@MOD: Please...

I have no idea waht happened there. So, I need

MOD: votecount please?

?

[pacman281292]

Is that the third time already?

Yep it is...

[pacman281292]

lol
<3 spam one liners.