DP12 JeepFest Mafia GAME OVER

[Leonidas]

Sorry - I am indeed the last player to post.

And I'm going to

vote: olio

for now.

[Leonidas]

Yes, SaberKitty, I've seen your post. My vote is on olio, I'm quite happy with it, but will check the thread again to see if I failed to see a claim by him.

[Leonidas]

I'm here. Not even lurking, just busy, should get better from now on.

Apologies.

[Leonidas]

vote: Mr. Stoofer

based exclusively on guts.

I say he's scum - and I mean it.

[Leonidas]

Since DP wants more voting:

Unvote: Leonidas
Vote: Commodore Amazing

You're not helping DP, since he's not gaining any vote in the process...

I still would like to see Leo post more. I thought he was a good player.

I've played a lot of games, but alas quantity is different from quality.

Anyway - I've shared my guts feelings, so I think we have a simple way to find out.

[Leonidas]

I'll go ahead and

confirm vote: Mr Stoofer

.

[Leonidas]

And so Mr Stoofer was, indeed, scum.

vote: Axelrod

[Leonidas]

I'm here. Waiting for the scums to post a little more.

[Leonidas]

Interesting.

So I am adamant about lynching two scums, one SK and one mafia, and now I am getting voted for. Nice.

The town is free to speculate as much as it will on my role. I disclose info only if it's in its interest.

[Leonidas]

Hmm.

vote: Mikehart

for now.

[Leonidas]

I'd hardly use the word 'adamant' to describe your attitude toward the lynches, Leonidas. In particular, I'd recommend people look at the post in which Leo votes for Axelrod and the ones in which I argue in favor of his lynch and decide which of the two of us was pushing harder for it.

So it's a contest between you and me? I don't get it. Great attitude, Fuldu...

As for whether it's "in [the town's] interest" to have been so non-committal about your role, this right here that I'm doing is (if I'm wrong) why. Didn't it occur to you that the actual roleblocker was going to find the whole thing suspicious?

It's again about you, Fuldu. I would have no problem with your nonsense if it were not leading to my lynch. I'm sorry, I thought you were a good player... Anyway - to asnwer your point about "The

actual roleblocker

". Nope, sorry. Even if the town tells I'm a cop when I'm just a townie, I won't claim the contrary.

It's not in the town's interest to speak, because it gives the mafia more indications into who is who.

I gave you several opportunities to even just hint that everybody was in the wrong.

I thank you for your generosity.

[Leonidas]

Mafia is a team game. The fact is, I got the SK, and put steam into the Axelrod bandwagon. If I'm a threat to your running the show, then yeah, Fuldu, by all means - get me lynched.

[Leonidas]

It isn't a contest between us, Leo. You're trying to hide behind the suggestion that you were pushing for the lynches of Stoofer and Axelrod when, in fact, you were doing nothing of the sort.

I think it's post 228 - I don't know how much clearer a post can get.
As to Axelrod: I was number 2 on the bandwagon, of course it's not a proof of innocence, but #2 is still very good karma.
And I'm not trying to hide.

You voted them and were otherwise totally content to let people do as they saw fit.

Well - yeah... It went alright, too. CA voted Axelrod based on the fact that my vote "went a long way in his book".

I was quite happy to use "following Leonidas" as an excuse to vote for the people I already had information about

Still does not explain why you're voting for someone who keeps fingering scums.

And

I

don't think

my

actions have anything to do with ego.

I

've said that

I

used following your lead as an excuse and

I

'll freely admit that yesterday

I

was quite happy to let you paint the bullseye on yourself. But today, when several players have listed you as their most trusted individual,

I

think

my

concerns merit examination.

I don't want to antagonize you more, so I won't comment.

But when you had made yourself a nice solid target as a result, and the scum chose to go after an all-but-claimed vanilla townie, instead, I found that suspicious.

More suspicious than, say, the vig not having been targeted, or Mith still being alive if pro-town.

Even then, I might have waited to see what else occured today. But with MeMe's comment to you, I felt (and her explanation notwithstanding, still feel) that a scummy rationale made the best sense of an otherwise out-of-character statement.

So because MeMe makes a comment, you vote

ME

. This is a very basic mafia mistake (which I do all the time). It's grouping individuals.
At any rate, if you're suspicious of MeMe's comment, you should go for MeMe first, for fear this might be a ploy to get an innocent lynched. (I did not understand her comment at the time, btw). There are many things I don't understand, and I respect that. I just focus on identifying scums, and am reasonably good at it.

I've given what I believe to be justified reasons for attacking you, not personal grudges.

I have no grudges. I find it surprising that with the facts at hand, you would still identify me as the guy to vote for. Anyway, let's see.

[Leonidas]

Impressive sleuth skills, Fuldu (if you are pro-town, as I have to believe, unfortunately). A slip, now. Wow. Very impressive. Great job, Fuldu - pro-mafia play, but eh, at least you're making yourself useful to a cause. Which should be a rewarding experience.

There have been hypotheses as to MeMe being Mith, just as there have been suppositions about me being a role-blocker. MeMe never claimed Mith, and I never claimed role-blocker. But if Mith is not on their side, scums had as many reasons to go for MeMe as they had to go for me. And they had even more reasons to go for the outed vig.

Unless they were afraid of losing a night kill, and decided to shoot in the dark in the hope of catching a powerful role unprotected. Which is basically what happened.

But with players like you, Fuldu - who needs a mafia with night kills anyway?

[Leonidas]

Belittle, you say? I am baffled.

And not impressed, of course, but you already knew that.

[Leonidas]

But if mith

is

on scum's side (as I have suggested and continue to believe), then either it is MeMe and they don't have any reason to kill her or it isn't MeMe and they don't have any reason to kill her (for being mith, anyway).

Man, you should really get a coffee or something.

First, I think that, indeed, MeMe might be scum...

1)

The COP / DOC thing was SO PERFECT

. Too perfect. Unless I am just being jealous, which is very possible. (Pss, Fuldu - notice that I am jealous of

MeMe

, not of

you

). I have always admired MeMe. Nah, why don't I let my feelings out: I'm secretely in love with her. What captured my imagination was the quality of her neurons. I have worked in networking before, and I can tell you - both in terms of throughput and resilience, her brain's structure is truly remarkable.

2) Mith, well - Mith could very well be scum. And a very powerful scum, for that matter.

Anyway - I'm also afraid I might be wrong, so I won't vote her (especially since I'm secretely in love with her). So keep your vote on me, Fuldu, take a coffee, try to relax, everything is going to be just fine.

[Leonidas]

And bah, I notice that 'secretely' should be 'secretly'. Kind of ruins my declaration, but the power of feelings should always prevail over grammar.

Anyway - Let's keep that detail hush, hush.

[Leonidas]

Shivers, eh? Nothing to be afraid of, Nanook... If MeMe responds favorably, the son of MeMe and Leonidas will be a MeLeon, or even a waterMeleon if he is born by the sea.

(By contrast, if he is born in Mathcam's house, he could be called CamMeLeon, but

that

would require a lot of timing and logistics).

[Leonidas]

I'm here. Need some time to see what happened.

[Leonidas]

Confirm - I am indeed Werebear, as MeMe indicated.

[Leonidas]

Explain to me, MeMe, how we can have two pro-town role-name finders in this game? Mackay was on the town's side and is dead.

FOS: MeMe

[Leonidas]

Nah.

vote: MeMe

, very likely mafia spy. If they put you in jail, I'll be waiting for you. And if they hang you, I'll be waiting for you too.

[Leonidas]

Ahhh - yes, I see. I had forgotten - you claimed you could actually take over the abilities of a dead player, right?

(Dark algorithms)

Hmmm. And you're still alive, with the town's doc dead a long time ago?

Tell you what, MeMe. I am almost convinced you're scum. My best guess is Mafia spy, using your knowledge of Mafiascum to inform the mafia.

[Leonidas]

Your lack of attention and lurking are detrimental to the game. And I don't think there can be

any

arguing with that.

That is definitely true. And I must apologize for that.

But - in spite of your charming tone - we're not here to punish players, but roles. And I still find it remarkable that your

role

would have made it so far if pro-town.

[Leonidas]

Hmm. Tempting, but it's a NO GO.

If MeMe is telling the truth, she could have chosen between the abilities of roland (role-name finder), and... those of the doc, who had died

before

.

MeMe, if you were so

convinced

that the role-blocker and the vig were the most attractive target, why not pick the doc's abilities and protect them, instead
of picking the oh so insignificant role-finding abilities?

[Leonidas]

Hmmm. One pro-town,

night-killed

role, eh?

Alright - if you're scum after that, then - between the 'COP / DOC' prepared catch and the 'night-killed' detail, you more than deserve to win.

unvote

[Leonidas]

(suspect IS = scum. Just look at the way IS plays mafia... )

[Leonidas]

Hmm. It's raining role-blockers.

Hallelujah, I guess...

[Leonidas]

vote: tss

, based on the fact that if IS is the cop, I'm the next pope.

[Leonidas]

unvote

[Leonidas]

Frustrating, frustrating...

[Leonidas]

Okay - 8 alive, 3 mafia left probably = lynch well or lose.

We need everyone to talk and we need the town to regain control over its destiny. I am extremely uneasy about voting along with MeMe, and I am even more uneasy to vote together with LML.

[Leonidas]

Here's my problem. Tss is claiming cop - a role no one else has claimed. And well -

Internet Stranger IS the paragon of mafia hunters.

Based on that: MeMe and LML mafia together makes much more sense than tss mafia. It has been making sense ever since LML agreed with MeMe that

"Axelrod's work was sloppy all around...."

. Little scum enjoying himself.

FOS: MeMe

to indicate my vote preference. Everything I said yesterday is true, MeMe. You more than deserve to win. The Axelrod pseudo-catch was a REMARKABLE gambit. You successfully shut me up yesterday.

But that does not mean that the town can't try to stop you.

[Leonidas]

(And if Axelrod would take it upon himself to use the COP and DOC thing - he would have informed his mafia buddies ).

[Leonidas]

Look at this, people.

My thoughts on the people who are left (I'll include myself)

18. the silent speaker - Played like a pro-town maven this entire time. Chance of scum, 10%

This was

yesterday.

As late as that, Lee judged me "a pro-town maven". Yet he claims he's been blocking me since day

2

and the lack of a kill then makes me suspect! Which is it, Lee? Have you been blocking me on suspicion, or have you been sure I was a good guy?

I buy infinitely.

confirm vote: LML

- die scum die. And if I have to choose between Samadhi and IS, Paragon of mafia hunters, I'll pick IS as pro-town, and Samadhi as co-scum with Antrax.

No save, please. Just a lynch. If by miracle LML is not scum, the vig can bring balance to the force tonight by killing tss, but it just won't happen. LML is scum, and so is MeMe - a little over-eagerness may yet cause your doom.

[Leonidas]

Err.. what's happening, MeMe. Is Tss wrong, or scum? And you prefer Samadhi as a half-time role-blocker to IS the paragon of mafia hunters?

Die scum die. But LML first of course. For me, the Samadhi - Antrax connexion is heavy, heavy evidence. LML should not have claimed Samadhi, if you want my views. But - well, too bad.

Remarkable attempt to shut me up again, but this time, I insure you - it won't work.

[Leonidas]

Town, could we lynch LML, pretty please? The role-claim is weak at best, and clearly an attempt to incite the town to lynch wrong. As to MeMe's reaction, it is extremely explicit.

[Leonidas]

Still posting, MeMe? Bah. Die in pain, my love.

[Leonidas]

CA - please do not allow MeMe to confuse you. It would really be a shame.

I am Werebear, townie. Sorry - I wish it could be more sensational, but it's not. If you're still suspicious about me, ask yourself who convinced you.

I am happy to see that you have a working theory, but by the way LML and MeMe were eager to lynch tss, I would encourage you to look into (LML+MeMe) instead of (LML+Tss). Again - tss as cop is actually quite possible, given IS's title of Paragon of Mafia Hunters. He's claiming a role no one else claimed (basic cop), which would very probably be in this setting.

And guess what - he's claiming MeMe and Lee guilty, too.

That's an awful lot for LML at least. So he's really the one to go first. On top of everything, Samadhi is the ideal accomplice of Antrax, and his ability claim just does not make sense (part-time role-blocker?).

As to InHim stopping a lynch - very good idea, as long as it's not a lynch on an innocent, right? If InHim is scum, that would mean an immediate mafia victory.

[Leonidas]

-- a tool for someone in the weaker position.

Absolutely true - probably linked to the fact that I am town, and that my side is not exactly in the stronger position. You seem much more at ease, MeMe.

[Leonidas]

(by contrast).

[Leonidas]

Leonidas (Werebear, townie) – dodgy about his claim; has lurked quite a bit; pretended to have Fuldu’s role for some time.

Err - was it Fuldu's role, or LML's?

Could we please lynch LML, CA?

Back in the early days, we lynched the SK together. Then you voted Axelrod based on my voting him, and he was mafia. I know that we are at a late stage of the game and so on, and I know you do not trust me. But I'm still going to ask: if it was a good idea to listen to me then, would you care to give it another try?

I'm starting to think we should go no lynch. This is partly because I expect to get night-killed, and I don't trust myself to make this decision.

Wow. And I'm supposed to be french and surrender easily.

[Leonidas]

--I'm the logical lynch for town who believes tss to be a sane cop.
--Leonidas is the logical lynch for those who don't believe that. There's a

case

for tss -- but if tss is scum, it's pretty clear that Leonidas has to be scum

with

him. But Leo can be scum

without

tss, making him the sounder choice.

Interesting that you should try so hard to avoid a LML lynch. Both he and you have a guilty result according to TSS. So for town who believes TSS to be sane, he's as good a choice as you are.

But no... MeMe believes she can prevail in a showdown with me and get me lynched, but does not trust LML to do the same. So she diverts the Town's attention towards herself.

[Leonidas]

Would there be a cop in this game? Yes. Could IS be it? Yes, and we have no one else claiming the role. Anyway - one single role-name finder is not enough for the town.

Quick look at TSS's results.

Night 1: MeMe - mafia.
Night 2: LoudmouthLee - mafia.
Night 3: NanookTheWolf. Blocked.
Night 4: inHim - not mafia.
Night 5: Nanook - not mafia.

(Leo note: Nanook is dead and proven town)

Night 6: Leonidas - not mafia.

I find it remarkable that MeMe and LML would talk their way out of the lynch at this juncture.

[Leonidas]

Therefore, it is my conclusion that...
--I'm the logical lynch for town who believes tss to be a sane cop.
--Leonidas is the logical lynch for those who don't believe that. There's a

case

for tss -- but if tss is scum, it's pretty clear that Leonidas has to be scum

with

him.

But Leo can be scum

without

tss, making him the sounder choice.

Blatant lie. If TSS is not scum, he's a cop, and since Nanook's death, we know he's sane. Meaning I'm innocent (and you're scum - which you already know).

So I

cannot

be scum without TSS.

A pro-town MeMe would not have done that mistake. You're definitely scum, but it should be clear to everyone by now.

[Leonidas]

inHim - I don't know if it's LML, MeMe, and tss. I simply don't know.

But I DO know that MeMe is scum along with LML. If Tss is a cop, he will give us additional investigation results over the next nights (while scums kill, say, me and/or CA). Quite likely, he may actually find the last mafia.

If he's not a cop, by giving him more time, we force him to lie more - arguably making it easier to catch him in a contradiction.

At any rate: Tss stays (for now), MeMe or LML have to go ASAP.

confirm vote: LML

[Leonidas]

Alright, I propose we switch to MeMe. Let's kill the brain first.

[Leonidas]

vote: MeMe

InHim, please do not block, you can block LML's lynch tomorrow - there is still time.

* Can't wait to have the game purified through the removal of MeMe's presence *

[Leonidas]

:arrow: Tomorrow: lynch LML, have InHim save.

If InHim saves - he's clean, (which I believe for now)
If not, he's probably the GF: Jeep, having invited scummers at Jeepcon to actually kill them off one by one with the help of a few veterans...

[Leonidas]

Unless TSS can accuse a third player of being mafia - in which case, lynch LML for good, and it's between TSS and that player.

[Leonidas]

Starting to think LML, MeMe + inHim?

There is too much effort from MeMe to actually have inHim save a lynch against an innocent...

Anyway - we'll see tomorrow.

First priority is to get rid of the big green scumbag.

confirm vote: MeMe

[Leonidas]

With MeMe + LML scum, I REALLY do not believe tss is scum. He would not have handed us TWO scums on a day with lynch or lose situation. He would have behaved... pretty much the way MeMe did.

[Leonidas]

How cute: Samadhi, Mith and Jeep ganging up to try and make us lynch IS the cop.

If you look at the beginning of the day, these three already had their votes on IS.

And by the way - was inHim not supposed to use his power before, but failed to do so?

At any rate:
MeMe lynch#1
LML lynch #2
InHim lynch #3 if he cannot display his power at any time before his turn comes.

[Leonidas]

Yeah, well you'll prove yourself on MeMe or LML. Not on an innocent.

[Leonidas]

Ahhh... I wonder if CA is reading and understanding what you're saying.

CA, could you please vote MeMe now? I know you're town and confused, I am just afraid you would allow MeMe, LML, and

quite possibly

inHim to convince you to vote for tss.

[Leonidas]

For CA when he does his read-through:

Daggum it, MeMe. I

so

want to lynch tss. BAH.

Notice how he invites MeMe to convince him to vote TSS, after telling me

Great catch, Leonidas. And this is the reason she's using to push suspicion off of tss and onto Leonidas? She's protecting him.

and...

Of course.

vote: MeMe

Funny, ain't it? But that's not all.

Dear lord, I can't do it.

unvote

I'm not voting for anyone besides tss. I give my word I'll save him. And, my word is good, I guarantee you that.

If his word is so good, why unvote MeMe? Why express ANY preference in terms of who to vote for today?

No, there was never a consensus for me to use my power. I'll prove myself, I swear to it.

No need to swear - no one believes you except your fellow scums.

:arrow: I fully agree with Nox. Let's lynch MeMe, and have inHim save her if he can ( ). Anyway - MeMe seemed

so

confident about lynching tss or me, and having inHim save, that I have no doubt that she will accept the plan.

[Leonidas]

It's Leo and Nox and, lately, inHim who've said "no" -- to saving

me

and

Lee

!

I wondered where Nox would become suspicious. She's a pain for the mafia team, eh? You could have contained me (maybe...), but two townies who have seen the truth? Difficult to shut them up.

And you can only kill one at night...

Of course, I appreciate the feable attempt to confuse the town by putting inHim's name along with that of Nox, and mine.

[Leonidas]

And offering herself up to get lynched instead of Lee doesn't make much sense to me either.

My guess? She believes she's more experienced at mafia, and can dodge a bandwagon more easily that LML.

CA: I have to insist that LML, MeMe, and imHim are the remaining scums.

[Leonidas]

Wow. Mind-boggling. Mind-boggling.

[Leonidas]

(I was talking about CA's post)

Post 870 proves that inHim and MeMe are scum together, CA.

There is no doubt in my mind any more that TSS is town and a sane cop.

[Leonidas]

Okay. (Sigh).

vote: LML

inHim, please

save

your mafia buddy.

I hope the murder of Nox or mine tonight will open your eyes about MeMe and inHim.

[Leonidas]

MeMe is not a 50-50 bet.

inHim is not a 50-50 bet.

TSS is town.

[Leonidas]

Sorry - another disappointing post.

InHim will fail preventing the LML lynch tonight :arrow: scum.

MeMe is scum with inHim based on post 870.

Waiting for Nox to explain to you CA. I hope you trust her at least.

[Leonidas]

Nox - if you prefer MeMe over LML, I'll switch back. It's indifferent, but given MeMe's ability to influence CA, we'd be better off without her.

[Leonidas]

Good !

Yes it is correct: It's Jeep as GF, Antrax + Samadhi + Mith as mafia.

Altogether not so surprising, eh?

Mith is probably a mafia spy (because of his knowledge of mafiascum).

Make sure you ask inHim to block the LML lynch, just for fun.

[Leonidas]

inHim, please

block

LML's lynch. Pretty please.

[Leonidas]

Again -- if it's "not surprising" then why would you insist that we've got to have an alignment cop for it to be fair? You cannot have this both ways. Alignment cop = unnecessary if the scum group is obvious.

I beg to differ... It's obvious

now

, based on your

behavior

. I must say you were able to shut me up for a long time. Also, I really was ready to buy Jeep as pro-town - as the innocent host of JeepCon.

Not any more.

Talking about balance: town only had two cops (1 rnf + 1 cop), pretty standard in a DP game, especially given the fact that mafia had its own spy.

And IS as cop was not obvious. I was about to lynch him before I remembered his famous title: Paragon of Mafia Hunters.

Add to that the fact that scums could pick almost any single player name for a claim, and also the fact that the cop only detects mafia / non-mafia (ie, doesn't detect SK), and you get a somewhat balanced game.

Let's see.

[Leonidas]

vote: MeMe

- and I'll stick to her.

And I reiterate: inHim, since your word is so good, please save scum MeMe in distress.

[Leonidas]

At the end of this game, MeMe will get a certain number of awards.

List of awards includes (but is not necessarily limited to):

1) - Best scum strategy

I suspect she's the one with the plan, and this one definitely gets an A+ at least. This is a great vintage of MeMe scum play, you don't get a bottle of that every day - it's like drinking Chateau Petrus 1989.

2) - Grace under fire

While her fellow scums are relatively quiet now - especially LML,

(the guy who

dared

to claim Samadhi - part-time blocker, in this setup, when Antrax was proven to be a scum role, and the role-blocker was dead)

, MeMe is still trying to resist the angry mob, and still gets a shot at confusing the town. And under the circumstances, her posts are arguably the best she could produce.

What can I say. I hope you understand why her neurons have captured my imagination.

[Leonidas]

Tss - Lee has pushed for a no lynch today.

That alone should be more than enough, since the Town's best interest is either
- to lynch scum, of course, or
- to have inHim prove his ability - which results in no lynch too if inHim is town, but also clears inHim and therefore yields more information.


As to MeMe, well - she's guilty of the capital crime of any great mafia player.

:arrow:

I really don't know why...

[Leonidas]

I also like this one, of course:

Tss didn't GIVE that result until after Nanook was dead...so how in the WORLD does that prove sanity?

[Leonidas]

(in spite of all the reverse logic, MeMe?)

[Leonidas]

(And of all the lies and mis-representations?)

inHim, when you said that Tss was not voting for MeMe, did you consider the fact that - technically - neither were you? Even after agreeing with me that she was scum?

[Leonidas]

Fun fact:

Days 1-5: Leonidas posted 26 times
Day 6: Leonidas posted (so far) 47 times

Very weak, MeMe.

Going into this day, Town was really getting it, so yeah... it's good to talk.

No fun fact here, just a case against MeMe:

- MeMe tried to get TSS lynched while suggesting inHim would save him anyway (Note: inHim is very likely scum).

- MeMe tried to convince the town I could be scum without TSS (TSS got me innocent and Nanook too - Nanook is dead and pro-town. Interestingly, TSS got MeMe and LML scum)

- MeMe tried to tell the town that the innocent result on Nanook could not help determine sanity, because the result was revealed after Nanook's death.

(MeMe should be lynched for this alone)

.

- LML is scum and agreed with MeMe that Axelrod's job was sloppy all around (private joke between scums - the Axelrod thing was a brilliant move - too bad LML could not resist the temptation)

- Upon seeing the bandwagon forming against her, MeMe argued 'Lynch or lose today - don't lynch me'. Yet she trusted inHim so much before, when the bandwagon targeted an innocent...

- inHim won't vote MeMe. Or rather - he will agree with me that she is scum, vote her, and then unvote, only to vote... TSS.

- If pro-town, inHim can prevent a lynch. So he should not give a damn about whom he votes for. Yet somehow, he is adamant about going for TSS. And not MeMe.

- MeMe failed to see that LML is scum. (

I really don't know why...

).
As a reminder, LML has a guilty result on him by the only self-claimed sane cop in the game. LML is claiming Samadhi (Antrax was scum), and is claiming... err.. part-time blocker (the blocker is dead).

- MeMe was leading the town going into this day.

- MeMe's role-claim is too convenient (subtly avoid the question as to 'why did you not pick up doc?' 'Because I could only get the powers of a

night-killed

pro-town role...'. Bah - clearly mafia spy.

It is so natural for me to write this post. It just flows... If by now you have not understood that MeMe is scum, there is probably no hope for mankind (although there might be some for MeMe). And the last one to leave should turn off the light.

Final summary:

MeMe = mafia spy = Mith, uses knowledge of Mafiascum to know role names and help scums

LML = Samadhi, scum just as Antrax was

inHim = GF if he can't stop MeMe's lynch tonight.

And it is on that basis that I ask you to lynch MeMe. Thank you.

[Leonidas]

Don't forget Leo's insistence that IS couldn't be cop.

At least

I

remembered his title of Paragon of Mafia Hunters - which, by the way, fits PERFECTLY with the fact he only determines mafia / non-mafia. I consider him as innocent. Therefore cop. Therefore sane since Nanook's death. Therefore you're scum. SSSSSCCCCCCUUUUUUUUUMMMM.

Don't forget Leo's insistence that the blocker be lynched.

We never lynched the blocker because you killed him at night. As to the self-proclaimed-part-time-blocker-Samadhi-with-a-'mafia'-result-on-his-head (the one who keeps pushing for a sub-optimal no lynch at this juncture), yeah, he should probably get it too.

If you ignore me today and, somehow, there's a tomorrow -- don't forget who to lynch.

Errr... That would be inHim if he can't stop your lynch...?

Notice how inHim is trying to back-pedal and starts explaining that he needs to be ZeHammer for his ability to work.

:arrow:

Could we lynch MeMe now?

[Leonidas]

Explaining that a cop is not necessary in this setting: MeMe.

Explaining that the cop is random: LML.

Identified as scum by the cop: MeMe + LML.

[Leonidas]

(wakes up)

(Looks at the agenda for the day)

(Sighs)

(Repects minute of silence, and then another one)

Alright MeMe.

If you're a good girl, you'll be out in twenty years. I'll be waiting for you. If they hang you, I'll be waiting for you too.

vote: MeMe

[Leonidas]

I'll just state that, if I were scum with Antrax and Luna, this would be one easy game to figure out even with

no

cops.

Why? The mafia group could claim any role. Of course, the (I say 'the') pro-town role-name finder could reveal a lie, just like a cop can investigate someone and get a guilty result.

Don't you agree? I mean, a role name cop, a night-action hint cop, an alignment cop PLUS a back-up who could (and did) turn into a cop would be overkill for such an obvious set-up.

No back-up cop... You're a mafia spy just like Luna was a mafia blocker.
I won't even go into the Mith + Luna discussion.

Solution? It's

not

an obvious set up.

Solution? You're mafia as claimed by tss.

Please re-read the SK's role in post one. The SK could not be detected by a

cop

. Cop = tss for sure, and is sane. And got a guilty result on you...

As things stand, my hat's off to Lee and his foresight. No reason for him not to claim Luna except to make it look as though he's covering up an affiliation with me...which would only matter in the event of

his

death.

You know that I know that we know that LML sacrificed himself to protect your neurons. I praise him for his decision. I don't think you can go further, still. But hey - be my guest to try

I'd like to hear from inHim about yesterday's protection (if he attempted it -- why it didn't work -- all that).

Hmm. Anyway - as I said again and again - I bow to your fighting spirit, and to all your other qualities.

[Leonidas]

Quick recap of everyone's role before we vote for good.

I'm Werebear, townie.

Next.

[Leonidas]

Strong suspicions -> inhim too, but I'd like to hear d8p's voice before voting.

And I will also re-read the thread.

[Leonidas]

Yes. On top of the thing with MeMe, which - arguably - was enough already, his role-claim makes

absolutely

no sense.

I have seen townies lose a game for the town by mistake, but that is definitely too much. (I.e. can't possibly be a mistake).

I'd still like to see d8p post.

[Leonidas]

Wow. Craziest simulti-post I've seen in ages.

[Leonidas]

Alright.

If I am wrong, the remaining scum is absolutely outstanding. And MeMe is even better than in my wildest dreams.

I can't imagine how inHim could be innocent, though.

Well done to the winning side no matter what.

vote: inHim

[Leonidas]

I'm not particularly fond of players who quote themselves. But then again,

this

quote is definitely true...

This is a great vintage of MeMe scum play, you don't get a bottle of that every day - it's like drinking Chateau Petrus 1989.

Apart from MeMe, the scum team collectively did great. inHim's claim was absolutely believable. And it was used very nicely when the mafia tried to lynch tss and pull out an instant win.

LML was impressive with his self confidence all the way to the end, in spite of being fingered by a cop. Why he had to pick Samadhi as his claim, I hesitate to guess. He could have picked anybody - anybody. Dourgrim. Macros. d8p. MeMe. Matchcam. Fletcher. DP (instant lynch, but funny)...

The climax of the game was arguably the Axelrod sacrifice, which was a true work of art. It baffled everyone, made it extremely difficult to believe that MeMe was scum, etc. Brilliant.

So now to the question: who thought of the sacrifice of Axelrod? Had you prepared the false clues for just such an occasion? Or did MeMe just jump on the opportunity?

[Leonidas]

I planted the conflicting claims on my own on day 1 and told the rest of the mafia about them the following night, the idea being they could use them against me if the right situation arose. MeMe picked an opportune time and ran with it very well.

Well - it was very nicely done indeed. 8)

And now... I believe someone has some explaining to do...

DP!!!!

- first of all, thank you for modding this, DP... It was another brilliant DP game, but you already know that...

DP...

Could you please elaborate a little on the sentence in bold in the following quote - I'm not sure I understand (or want to understand) what you meant. Here it is...

Player name: Commodore Amazing
Role name: CADMIUM
Generic role: ONE-SHOT VIGILANTE
Flavour: Wow. Cloggie does the States. It would have been great, except for the recent developments.... However, as chance would have it, you have something in your luggage that can help the town. The KLM stewardess that served you the cheese on your flight in should have known better. Then again, dropping the cheese into your hand luggage was also not a bright move. When you unpacked it,

you found it had gone all green and hairy. Which is great with French cheese, but not with Edam.

On the positive side, you can use this to give someone acute food poisoning and taking them out of the game..... too bad, there is only enough cheese to do this once.
Night actions: only one night of the game you can send me an IM with the name of one player you want to take out of the game.
Winning condition: you win when all the bad ones are out of the game and at least one good one is still around.

[Leonidas]