DP12 JeepFest Mafia GAME OVER

[inHimshallibe]

Checking in!

To the posts, to the posts, to the posts, posts, posts...

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And I'm done, and I'm done with the posts, posts, posts...

Now it's time for the by now infamous inHim's replacing recap:

1. Someone - Anyone can read the front post. Vesuvan's interaction is telling, though.

3. NanookTheWolf - Very low flier under the radar. Fairly scummy in my books, added to the fact that I agree with points that The Shadow raises.

4. MeMe - It's hard to argue against results, which she says she has.
5. The Shadow - I don't have the best of reads here. His last post alleviates some of my suspicions.

7. LoudmouthLee - Where are you, Lee?

10. Fuldu - Almost fully convinced he's town. Like 99%

12. PeaceBringer - Wow. This is an easy role to fake.

14. Leonidas - Has the track record for this game to be considered town.
16. inHimshallibe - lurking predecessors. Trust me, I'll post as much as you'll want me to.
17. Commodore Amazing - Vig, so he says; vig, so I believe. 90%
18. the silent speaker - A nice voting ringleader he has become. I'm not sure where this places him, though.
20. Nox - Anyone can read the front post. Vesuvan's interaction is telling, though. (Yes, I realize I posted the same thing for both Someone and Nox. This was my main matter of concern.)

vote: Nanook

and casting my

Net of Suspicion: LML, PB

[inHimshallibe]

That's a very "Wine in Front of Me" argument, PB. I do know that you like to post, and post a lot, and that you're analysis is oftentimes key to the game. This being said, if you fake this role as scum, you won't be as expected to post some of those damning analyses of yours, which might logically point to members of your mafia family.

As far as your visions go, let me look over the claim and my player again. I'll get back to this ASAP.

Nanook still stands scummiest, although input from Lee would be most helpful (:x at lurkers in general).

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I think I might now make it a mission to redefine "flying under the radar." I do not equate that phrase with lurking; I define it as not being that included in the game. Let me further explain my vote then -

It's my impression that you've received little to no heat this game, other- or self-induced. This comes from doing little to rock the boat, which is where the bad guys like to hide out. So, you've made the wrong assumption as far as me agreeing with Leonidas goes, as IMO, he has made a couple of very defining plays.

Right, the visions. I can see how the "crosses" sort of connect, but the colors don't make much sense to me.

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FOS: tss

- his previous post added some words and left a couple out of my posts.

We'll get back to Nanook later; inHim is next.
The Shadow's last post -- his very scummy last post -- is said to alleviate inHim's suspicions.

This is true, I did say that he alleviated

some

of my suspicions. Notice that word left out there -

some

. I didn't say I completely believed he was pro-town.

He agrees with The Shadow's piffling reasons to suspect Nanook, to the extent of voting him.

Did I ever say that I agreed with The Shadow's reasoning? No, I even gave my own reason for voting. Notice the words added.

And he FOSes LoudmouthLee (another very probable town)

Interesting thing for you to say.

for no better reason I can see than lurking... fine thing for a twice-replaced role to do.

I can't help what my predecessors did. I'm posting now, am I not? It seems you suspected my twice-replaced role for lurking. Do your rules for me not apply to you?

PB posts (which will also be dealt with later) and inHim says:

This being said, if you fake this role as scum, you won't be as expected to post some of those damning analyses of yours, which might logically point to members of your mafia family.

Did you completely miss everything Axelrod said and did?

Rephrase, please; I'm not sure I understand what you're asking of me.

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Actually,

unvote; vote: The Shadow

- you're actually trying to defend your lurking?

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tss, you come off as cleaner now than I once thought.

Yes, you did. See?

NanookTheWolf - Very low flier under the radar. Fairly scummy in my books, added to the fact that

I agree with points that The Shadow raises.

Oh. I recant. Point made about me agreeing with The Shadow. I don't know what I was thinking.

I'm not sure I understand what you're asking of me.

I'm commenting on your saying that PB wouldn't post long analyses as scum in this game when Axelrod did just that multiple times.

Yes, but PB and Axelrod are different people with different characteristics. Namely, PB is smarter.

I suppose there's no disputing it now. Yes, LML and CA, I'm Jeep. Hear that world? I'm Jeep. Thanks for vocalizing such, and so loudly as you did.

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:: The restriction was the main thing I found easy to fake. Who's to say he's not a mafia role finder, and made up some vague comments to fit?

:: It's to the town's advantage the less scum know of roles, in my opinion. Using 20/20 hindsight, it makes sense that scum wouldn't dare fake jeep as a role if it didn't already exist in their group, but I held my reservations about claiming. It's all out in the open though, now, so there's nothing to be done.

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PeaceBringer's vision may confirm "Polarboy." I really wish he had tripped on someone whose role we didn't know yet.

Which unearths suspicion on him again.

I've been assigned a fairly long and difficult paper to write; it's doubtful I'll be of

much

use until Thursday. I'll try on my little mental recesses.

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I can see how you got Peacebringer as a confirmed

How do you see this and not MeMe? Strange. And CA has a point - flavorwise, Pooky does not seem the townie type.

FOS: Nanook

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As host of JeepFest, I get to decide which partygoer stays and which one leaves. I can keep anyone but myself from being evicted from the party - result is equal to no lynch.

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Forgot to add: If it is indeed between myself and Nanook, then

vote: Nanook

.

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The PM doesn't limit me to one-time use, so I assume it's multiple. I send in my choice during the Day, but not through direct means. I can save Nanook, yes.

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I wasn't around when Werebear was here (although he's back now for a game or two), so I'm not much for speculation.

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Nanook should post sometime soon...

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Upon digging around through some older threads, I think it's a toss-up. I'm more inclined to save Pooky than Werebear - cuddly versus ursathrope (I think I made that up).

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Well, Nanook, I think you can stick around and make some more comments, at least.

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So wait, what am I supposed to do? Nothing? You'll need to clarify.

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I need consensus. I'm not just going to listen to one person on one side or two people on the other side.

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OK, checking in. Hmmm... yes. Let's get everything out into the open.

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I have to agree that IS being a cop doesn't make a terrible amount of sense. Maybe if it were "this one's good for bandwagoning" type of deal (in which case you'd be uselessly paranoid in the first place.) No voting yet. I'm still processing.

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Yes, I'll do it.

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Before I throw out a plan and some analysis - how confident are you all on the number of scum remaining? I see 2 here, 3 there.

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Actually, my question doesn't mean much now, because there are 8 alive, not 7.

I'm still hung up on tss. I just can't believe that IS would receive valid investigations. This, and I find it funny that when roland thought he had reason to vote for MeMe, tss didn't think his investigation might be correct and followed with a vote of his own.

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Alright, I've been holding this theory, and recent actions have made me .

What if it's tss, LML, MeMe?

tss' claim has near-guaranteed him to get him to endgame, and I'm feeling paranoid. It's also convenient that neither MeMe or LML are voting him now. I've been extremely stingy with my vote today because I want to assure I can save someone, but I really want to lynch tss at the moment. Because, if he's scum we'll never catch him.

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Great catch, Leonidas. And this is the reason she's using to push suspicion off of tss and onto Leonidas? She's protecting him.

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I'll do whatever. But let me be the hammer.

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Of course.

vote: MeMe

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Daggum it, MeMe. I

so

want to lynch tss. BAH.

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Dear lord, I can't do it.

unvote

I'm not voting for anyone besides tss. I give my word I'll save him. And, my word is good, I guarantee you that.

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And to add: you can think I'm scum 'til the cows come home. I don't care. I will vote no one besides tss today.

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No, there was never a consensus for me to use my power. I'll prove myself, I swear to it.

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That's fine by me. It just won't be today. I'm not voting for anyone besides tss today.

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I have another question; Lets say that the town has a majority of votes against MeMe, the rest of the town voted someone else, say tss. If inhim saves MeMe, does the tss lynch go through?

This is not how I interpret my role, but I suppose that it's possible.

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And yet tss doesn't vote for MeMe along with the others, even though he's so sure of his investigations. Gah. Fuel to the fire.

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I should never have said that I would save anyone Today - if there are 3 scum left, this gives them a huge advantage. And I'm not backing down from my claim. It's just that, looking into it, Yesterday was the optimal time for me to save, and everyone floundered on the issue.

You're right, Leo, there's no reason to swear. It's just that I can't stand anything more than when I'm telling the truth and no one believes me. I posted out of influence and emotion yesterday (it wasn't the greatest of days for me), and not out of reason. I'm sure no one will let me forget my previous ultimatum - voting no one but tss - but I've had a night's sleep to let my head cool. We need to lynch scum Today (which I think is tss), and regain a ratio to one where I can prove myself safely. I can't dismiss what I posted yesterday, but I do wish that I hadn't been so matter-of-fact, because I know wanting to retract any of that smells of scum, scum, scum. But, to everyone - we need to nail scum Today, and most likely Tomorrow. Let me go see about my vote - I hope you all won't mind that I'll stop acting stupid and will place a vote.

And to add, I welcome someone showing me by the numbers that it'd be good to save. My main argument is that if I did save today, I'd probably be killed tonight, and the town would be in a worse situation.

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I guess... but there's likely

3

scum left. Are you sure? I'll carry through.

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I think that the mod would have told him whether another lynch could go through, which he does not know and has not asked yet

I asked when you wanted me too, but DP is away right now. I've seen the role in other games, and based upon that, and the fact that the role sounds almost the same as them, then I assumed no lynch would occur.

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OK, so it just goes through as a no lynch, and the second majority is

not

lynched.

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I hope everyone else is noting that tss is seemingly refusing to vote for MeMe.

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I made a post about changing my mind, and will follow through with the plan. Or did the scum conveniently skip over this, too?

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At the time I voted MeMe, it was under the pretense of lynching, not saving. I'll repeat, again: I'm for the current plan. Those who still think my not voting is suspicious don't know what my role entails. I've asked before and ask again to be the hammer.

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Notice how inHim is trying to back-pedal and starts explaining that he needs to be ZeHammer for his ability to work.

I send in my choice during the Day, but not through direct means.

Then I make this post because I thought I would be proving my ability.

I'll do whatever. But let me be the hammer.

And then I voted 5 minutes later because I was under the assumption I wouldn't be saving (and I've already been through this once.) So, I was not backpedaling.

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Lee has successfully framed me, and now MeMe is setting me up to look bad.

Complete role, paraphrased- I have to be able to answer a question about my guests before I can save them. I send in my answer at Night, and if I wish to save the person being lynched, then I tell DP; if my answer is right, then the person is saved.

Upon checking to see if I could stop Lee's lynch Yesterday, I was told I had sent no answers in. I didn't think this was so bad since Lee was indeed scum, but no question came last Night. That means it was just a one-shot use, and I had been blocked from using it. I now have no way to prove my power, and if you lynch me, then that was one heckuva play by Lee to block me and set me up.

I still hold by my conviction that tss has us all hoodwinked, but I'll take him up on his sacrifice of MeMe first.

vote: MeMe

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The sudden emergence of a question (which appears to mean, among other things, that you can

not

save whoever, but have to pick someone the night before)

You're not listening to what I'm telling you. If I had answered the question correctly, then I

can

save whoever I want.

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You didn't notice what I've posted? I've been blocked away my only save.

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Bah. A 5-minute window and we would have won. I literally jumped out of my seat and nearly pulled out a huge chunk of hair when I saw Leo's vote and unvote of tss. After that, I knew we were nearly through.

Good game, all! And thanks so much, DP!