StrangerCoug's Worst Nightmare IIIS: The Dungeon (Game over)

[Tasky]

Hi everybody. damn, 4 pages already. just got few minutes.
good news are, I am italian (and therefore, as you might have guessed, speak italian). so maybe I can help understand posts which seem nonsensical if translated back from italian

Also I hate Italy. I'm still bitter about 2006 WC.

lol. it's personal then.
UNVOTE: VOTE: Espeonage

until I have time to reread carefully

[Tasky]

lol. to lazy to read everything. not enough time.
someone tell me what to do please. don't want to think right now.

PS: usually this is just a passing phase in the game; can't guarantee that, of course
PPS: whoever thinks I am scum is just to be lol'd at.
PPPS: writing post scripts is fun
PPPPS: ok. that's the last one
PPPPPS: the post script above this was a lie.
PPPPPPS: ok, I'll stop spamming now.
PPPPPPPS: yes, I am interested in the game in case you'd want to know.

[Tasky]

this game is going way to fast for me. don't have enough time.
so expect me to lurk a little.
don't let that distract you.

If you find scum, tell me.

[Tasky]

huh. I still have my vote on espeonage?

time to push a wagon

unvote

, VOTE: Blooderection.

[Tasky]

For future reference:
In an impossible scenario where BS is scum and BE isn't, Tasky is scum with BS.
I say impossible scenario because both BE and BS are scum, but we can only lynch one today :<

lol.

[Tasky]

With that said, there's probably scum on both major wagons right now. My picks for the BE wagon are Tasky and/or Espy (in that order). If BS flips scum, the chances of them being scum increase exponentially. If BE flips scum, the chances of chesskid being scum increases exponentially.

lol? you are aware that you are posting nonsense, are you?

[Tasky]

What's nonsensical about what I'm writing? Please, enlighten me.

sorry, read badly. (BS instead of BE)

PS: [off topic] go reread the definition of exponential growth. you used the term in a completely wrong way.

[Tasky]

[offtopic]Yeah, I'm sure I am, but that's irrelevant.[/math]

lol.

[Tasky]

I think this game will be more fun if we put someone to L-1:
UNVOTE: VOTE: Baby Spice

attention: it's L-1

[Tasky]

I don't like Tasky's vote. It seems very opportunistic - that's the first time he's mentioned BS. Also, his only other non-random vote was to push an existing wagon.

UNVOTE: Nobody Special
VOTE: Tasky

I'm still semi-v/la, but I will try to post more.

I

AM

pushing wagons, yes. SO WHAT? is that scummy?
I like bandwagons.

[Tasky]

I'd prefer if we do not lynch Blooderection today, there is something I have to check.
So, please, let us look elsewhere for today and not lynch him today.
We can lynch him tomorrow, but if my theory is right, he should die anyway tonight, so no need to waste our lynch on him.

I have a good reason for this. can't tell you, obviously.
N.B.: I am in no way suggesting that BE is town, nor have I any reason for not wanting his lynch tomorrow or later.

[Tasky]

If you have a reason not to lynch BE today, you should claim why. Otherwise I am ignoring you.

No, I am not telling. it would give scum information they should not have.
If you want BE dead, you trust me. just go on and lynch your second scum-pick. if my theory is right BE should die next night anyway. if my theory is wrong, you can lynch him tomorrow.

everything you need to know is that I have a serious reason for this and that reason is connected to my role.

[Tasky]

@mod, little curiosity: what does "disemboweled" mean? English is not my native language.

[Tasky]

Lady Lambdadelta (9):

Mafuyu

, Parama, Espeonage, Me=Weird, Antihero, Twomz, Reckamonic,

Nobody Special

, chesskid3, (

Nero Cain

)

Hmm.... There's 1 more scum max on this wagon, I'd think.

do you think there are 5 scum?

@mod, could we have a votecount please?

[Tasky]

P[(3 scums flipped no PR and 1 PR flipped town)]
= P[0 or 1 or 2 scums have PR]

could you explain this step? thanks.

[Tasky]

P[(3 scums flipped no PR and 1 PR flipped town)]
= P[0 or 1 or 2 scums have PR]

could you explain this step? thanks.

Spoiler: More maths here

P[(3 scums flipped no PR and 1 PR flipped town)] is talking about the probability that, after a random assignment of PRs, we still have 3 scums with no PR and 1 town with PR. it has nothing to do with the chance that we got 3 scums killed in a row. the only distribution that is removed after the flips is that all 3 PRs are scums, so the required probability is the chance that there are 0, 1, or 2 scums with PR, under random assignment of PRs.

hope it helps.

I think you got it wrong there.

P[(3 scums flipped no PR and 1 PR flipped town)]
=P[(0 scums have PR)]+P[(1 scum has PR and he does not flip)]+P[(2 scums have PR and none of them flips)]
= (15*14*13)/(20*19*18) + 3*(15*14*5)/(20*19*18)*(4/10) + 3*(15*5*4)/(20*19*18)*(1/10)
<------- (4/10), (1/10) are the probability that if I choose 3 scums, none of them has a PR with 1 and 2 PR's in the scum group respectively. (4=C(4,3), 1=C(3,3), 10=C(5,3))
=0.596

therefore

P[(no scum with PR)|(3 scums flipped no PR and 1 PR flipped town)]
= 0.399/0.596
= 0.669

[Tasky]

Tasky, I have reasons relating to my role why BE should be the lynch today.

the point is, if I am right, he will die anyway tonight. wouldn't that be ok for you? it would be a waste to lynch him if we could lynch someone else since BE dies anyway.
and I absolutely need to know whether I am right or not.

3. there are only me and chesskid being the alive PRs.

You missed Twomz.

lulz. so basically the whole math has to be done again.

[Tasky]

UNVOTE BLOODERECTION PLEASE!

you need to trust me. he should die tonight anyway.
what pro-town reason is there to waste a lynch on someone who is going to die anyway?

[Tasky]

Okay, I know what you're gonna say, but I think there's something seriously wrong about this whole surprise field trip thing.

@ Tasky: It's all good if you poisoned him or something, but the only way we can be sure of alignment/flip is by lynching (I don't really trust 2 of the 3 mafia flips), if you have a delayed vig... targeting the number 2 lynch candidate is kinda a silly move.

why do you think that lynchs will flip correctly if you assume that wrong flips are possible?
which two flips don't you trust? why?

[offtopic / math]

the factor (4/10) and (1/10) are not needed.

if you know (e.g.) that you have 2 scum with post restriction, that does not guarantee that if I choose 3 scums randomly out of the five I won't hit any with a PR. so you need the factors.

[Tasky]

Tasky:

I think this game will be more fun if we put someone to L-1:
UNVOTE: VOTE: Baby Spice

Bad

vote. Because it would be more fun? He didn't even express suspicion before this.

I think my vote goes to tasky.

Vote: Tasky

lol.

[Tasky]

M=W:
Link due to long post.
Well reasoned, follows up with his case on all her posts afterwards. Conclusion:

Town

double lol.

[Tasky]

Yeah, try to deflect my suspicion by laughing at it. It won't work. If you think my problem is that you hammered, then you can't read.

That was a horrible vote.

READ THE DAMN MOD POSTS!
it was a mod error!

also:

...
LLD: Conclusion:

Scum.

...
BE: Conclusion: Leaning

scum.

...
Espeonage: Conclusion: Leaning a bit to

scum.

...
manho: Conclusion: Null, leaning

scum.

...

Vote: Tasky

you are aware of the fact that you are calling 5 people scum while we have max 2 left (assuming a 5 scum team)?

[Tasky]

@ Tasky: It's too... convenient, the two deaths at the start of the days. It could be any number of things. A slightly delayed NK vig/sk, a DK vig/sk/2nd scum party, a DK/delayed NK SK who can choose what the flip is (I've seen it before), or any other number of other bastardly roles. If whoever is 'killing' players is actually killing scum, I want them to continue. But, until I see proof of some sort (or at least a believable claim) I will stay skeptical of the flips.

ok

is posting pics part of your post restriction?

[Tasky]

oh, and since I already triple-posted, here comes post nr. 4. YEEAH!

[Tasky]

It's pretty damn easy to replace a corpse if you ask me

OK

Mafuyu has been revived on Day 2.
Parama, whose role remains unknown, has been modkilled on Day 2 for wanting to replace Mafuyu.

Night 2 will... uh... I think we're going to have a problem with having a mod-confirmed Mafiate.

Parama has been revived on Day 2.
Mafuyu, who was a

Mafia goon

, has been modkilled on Day 2 for being mod-confirmed scum already.

The modkills and revivals are intended as a joke, so both of you remain eligible to win. Carry on Day 2.

wtf?!



also, OMGUS is not a scumtell. at least not in most circumstances.
this is the first reason Me=Weird's post is bullshit.
the second is that he is voting me.
the third is that he is making a ridiculous case against LLD (who is my top town read atm).

also, he fully deserves my vote:
UNVOTE: VOTE: Me=Weird

you better kill me tonight, scumbag. I caught you and you will die.
EVERYBODY ON

Blooderection's

WAGON, UNVOTE!
EVERYBODY VOTE

Me=Weird

!

we lynch scum today, then tonight BE dies. and if he was scum, we win.
easy, no?

PS: Me=Weird, thanks for being obvscum.

[Tasky]

Tasky:
-Why is Me=Weird's case on you bullshit?
-How is your case on Me=Weird

not

just a bad case of OMGUS?

there is no such thing as OMGUS. he attacked me, and I am townie, therefore it is obvious that he did something wrong. so, I am inclined to investigate him further. Therefore, I looked back at his posts, and they are full of nonsense. He screams OMGUS all the time, calls 5 people scum, etc.
therefore I vote him.

-Why is BE going to die tonight?

I am not sure about this. but I think so. and, it is vital for all of us that I get to know whether my theory is right or not.
Maybe, if my theory gets confirmed, I can even explain it tomorrow. I am not promising that, though.

[Tasky]

Maybe, if my theory gets confirmed, I can even explain it tomorrow. I am not promising that, though.

"If you guys let me live long enough to use my power tonight..."

huh? what is the point of this comment?
actually, if my theory is right, BE should die even if I die.

[Tasky]

Tasky - is your theory a one time thing?

xvart.

I am not telling. That's something scum should not know.

[Tasky]

more M=W votes please!

[Tasky]

UNVOTE BLOODERECTION PLEASE!

you need to trust me. he should die tonight anyway.
what pro-town reason is there to waste a lynch on someone who is going to die anyway?

what am I softclaiming in your opinion?

you are aware of the fact that you are calling 5 people scum while we have max 2 left (assuming a 5 scum team)?

Why you so confident about 2 left (the paranthetical AFTER the statement looks like an "Oh shit this might look scummy. Fixed!" deal).

It is a reasonable assumption but it is still only an assumption so it has to be stated.

also, OMGUS is not a scumtell. at least not in most circumstances.
this is the first reason Me=Weird's post is bullshit.
the second is that he is voting me.
the third is that he is making a ridiculous case against LLD (who is my top town read atm).

He was saying your case was OMGUS. YOU FAIL SIR.

oooh. I see. I misread. I thought he called LLD scum for OMGUS.
don't know if that's your point, but I just noticed my error. Still, have yet to decide if that makes M=W any townier considering he uses OMGUS himself quite a lot.

Nice contradiction from OMGUS not being scummy to it not existing.

I fount this rereading. could you please explain the contradiction you see?

[Tasky]

^lol.

look. it's simple. I have a good reason to suspect that BE will die today.
therefore I do not think we should lynch him today.
not difficult, no lies.

[Tasky]

I don't like what Tasky's doing, but it doesn't make sense as a scum play. I'd be willing to go for xvart today and BE tomorrow if he survives the night ... but then SC'd have to find a replacement.

don't think what's best for the mod. think what's best for us!

[Tasky]

can we go on to serious business and lynch M=W now?

[Tasky]

can we go on to serious business and lynch M=W now?

this

[Tasky]

Tasky seems to be flailing about for any lynch that isn't BE right now.

I want to lynch M=W.

At this point, BE is the best lynch. There are two outcomes: BE is scum. This is obviously good. BE is town. BE is vanilla town (per claim), so we haven't mislynched another power role. The wagon on BE will provide a lot of material for analysis tomorrow. We'll get rid of a scummy player who would be serious trouble in LyLo, so he doesn't make a bad mislynch either.

the last time I made a post like this I was scum.

FoS: smargaret

[Tasky]

someone explain me why mistakenly voting own slot predecessor is scummy please.
also, Stove, could you please tell me what about M=W makes him look so townie town?

[Tasky]

Mothrax still needs to die. Tasky, how sure are you that he'll die tonight? I'll move my vote if it's inevitable.

let's say 60%, but additionally it is very important for us that I determine whether my theory is true.

[Tasky]

If he does die what would it matter. I would assume if what you think will happen does happen that would put a target on your back thus nullifing what you learned.

why would it paint a target on my back?

60% isn't quite good enough to justify the risk, IMO. I'm going to shamelessly sheep Parama and say we need more votes on mothrax.

what risk exactly?

I have no clue where Tasky is getting an odd number like 60%, either.

lol. it is just an estimated value, no maths involved.

[Tasky]

^ Questo ragazzo è feccia

sono d'accordo con te.

[Tasky]

UNVOTE: VOTE: Toon Fighter

[Tasky]

EBWOP: oh, damn. that was already the hammer. Toon Fighter has to be tomorrow's lynch.

[Tasky]

VOTE: Toon Fighter

Parama, why do you think I am town? In particular, what changed since post 543?

[Tasky]

I'm shocked that you care so much about being moved from town to townish-null. All I'm gonna say on the matter.

this.

FoS: Antihero

. Town shouldn't really care about other reads on them unless they are directly accused of being scum.

Class, I would like to introduce the newest, hopeless appendage to the student body. His name is... Zim. Zim, if you have something to say, say it now, because after this moment, I don't wanna hear another sound from you!

I'm back early from VLA. Time for the patented Twomz pointing out the obvious post.

Day 1 End Vote Count

Blooderection

(3): Parama, Antihero, Framm 18

Baby Spice

(10):

The Stove, Lady Lambdadelta

, chesskid3,

Blooderection

, Me=Weird,

Nobody Special

,

Espeonage, Twomz, manho

, Tasky
chesskid3 (1): Toon Fighter
Lady Lambdadelta (1): Reckamonic
Nobody Special (1): smargaret
Parama (1):

Baby Spice

Not voting (3): xvart,

Mafuyu

Day 2 End Vote Count

Antihero (1): chesskid3
chesskid3 (2): xvart, Reckamonic
Me=Weird (1): Tasky

mothrax

(9): Parama,

The Stove, Lady Lambdadelta

, smargaret,

Espeonage

, Antihero,

manho, Twomz

, Toon Fighter
Toon Fighter (3):

mothrax

, Chronopie, Me=Weird


Green = known town
Red = flipped scum (NS could be nonscum)
Blue = on both mislynches (5 players including myself)

The Stove and LLD were on the start of both wagons. I don't see any kinda reasoning for Espeonage's votes... and I'm getting a SQL error when I try to look at manho's posts... wtf. I'd be willing to vote for Esp after the toon fighter stuff is hashed out.

I'm not sure what to think about the lack of NK following a night with only a mafia death. Multiple scum groups should INCREASE the chance of kills at night and we would probably have an extra death by Night 2. I hate not being able to trust the flips (although if we can trust the flips, it could just be that a scumgroup has been eliminated or something, but speculating on that won't get us anywhere).

Arg, holding my vote for now.

and what exactly is the conclusion you draw from this? I just see a pumped post made to look big but with nothing in it.

[Tasky]

why exactly are people voting Espeonage? Must have missed the case against him.

[Tasky]

wait. isn't this going WAAAY to fast?
we should be a little careful, while it is true that 3 scums have died, we still lost 2 very powerful power roles. I don't think we should take this lightheartedly.
I'd like a NICE, PRECISE and COMPLETE case against Espeonage in one post. Thanks!

[Tasky]

M=W
Chrono
smarg
Tasky
Twomz
LLD
Chess

null reads + M=W

what exactly is this list?

[Tasky]

Tasky is scum. He's promised to help out with chesskid's posts but has conveniently sat out of all discussions about them, the OMGUS case on M=W is beyond terrible, his votes are normally baseless, and his "BE will die tonight bit was scum trying to get two mislynches for the price of one ("Oh, BE isn't dead? Well, I guess my theory was wrong, then. Time to get lynching!"

I do not know whether my theory is right or not, since you guys didn't what I asked you too.
I didn't help out chesskid because nobody asked me to. If there is a difficult post, I'll help. I really don't understand how you can really believe I am scum because of that.
M=W is scum, whether you believe it or not.

all in all, your post is just ridiculous.

[Tasky]

Here's an idea: go read him yourself and form your own opinion.

That's exactly the point: I read Espeonage but I didn't see what you see. Therefore I am asking you to show me.

[Tasky]

So, you think he's town? What do YOU see?

Who's most likely scum, then?

I never said I see him to be town. I said that I don't see him being scum, that's a totally different thing.


Most likely scum? hmmm.
don't know right now. have to get into the game again. my reads got all messed up when TF flipped town.

[Tasky]

I never said I see him to be town. I said that I don't see him being scum, that's a totally different thing.

You don't see him as town. You don't see him as scum. Do you see him at all? What townish things did you find in Esp's ISO? What scummy things did you find in Esp's ISO?

tell me you never had a null-read on someone in your life.

[Tasky]

What reasons make you believe Espeonage could be town?
What reasons make you believe Espeonage could be scum?

he got a role PM from the mod containing his role. I know from a reliable source that his role was chosen randomly among a pool of roles containing scumroles and townroles.
That answers both questions.

[Tasky]

UNVOTE: VOTE: The Stove

[Tasky]

Coulda sworn I'd posted yesterday. guess not...

Brief points: Parama/Stove feels TvT.

Manho's #828 is just... denial for the sake of denial. No real effort made in defending. Scum vibes.

LLD is fluffy. Whether fluffy scum or fluffy town...

Nacho made a good entry in to the game (better than I did at least), town read there too.

Summary: VOTE: Manho,

FoS: LLD

Parama | Stove | Nacho are prob-town

Null on everyone else.

UNVOTE: VOTE: Chronopie

[Tasky]

UNVOTE: VOTE: Chronopie

Is this like a nervous tic or something.

if it looks like a vote, feels like a vote and is bold like a vote, then it's probably a vote.

[Tasky]

Tasky, why that vote. Why that vote over other possible votes. Sigh.

because Chronopie is scum.

[Tasky]

this game is dragging...
MORE CHRONO-VOTES PLZ!!

[Tasky]

Spoiler:

GO BULLS~~~

the framm/chrono slot is not scum.

how would you know that?

[Tasky]

Tasky, do you agree with chess's case? Or do you actually have one of your own?

I immediately though he was scum when I read this post.
Then I saw chesskid's case and it made sense. But it wasn't the reason for my vote.

[Tasky]

ok, after KoC posted that big post, can we go back to serious things and vote Chronopie?

[Tasky]

ok, after KoC posted that big post, can we go back to serious things and vote Chronopie?

Reasoning for voting Chrono is... What exactly?

If you are aiming to lynch a Sage claim, why would you choose Chrono over Substrike?

If it has nothing to do with the sages, what exactly makes you feel like Chrono is the best lynch today?

sages? what are you talking about?

[Tasky]

chronipie vote > espeonage vote

[Tasky]

You're very terribly wrong, Tasky.

how would you know?

[Tasky]

^good posting.

FoS: The Stove

[Tasky]

posting to avoid prod.

oh, have I already told you that chronopie is scum?
well, chronopie is scum

[Tasky]

unvote, vote: Parama

baaaa

WTF???

what is going on?

[Tasky]

parama, why didn't you at least explain? After all your role will be revealed soon, so why not explain your move straight away and give us (maybe) useful info

[Tasky]

UNVOTE: VOTE: smargaret

[Tasky]

WTF?!
so much spam.

just one question:
Fate, why are you voting Parama over smargaret? she is scum, you know that and yet you vote for a dubious scum-read.

[Tasky]

why are you voting a SK-suspect when there is still scum left?
additionally, I have a strong reason to believe that there is no SK. so either you attack Parama for being mafia, or you unvote him.

[Tasky]

I linked a few of my town games, by no means all of them, and not entirely the most recent. If I'd linked my scum games, they'd be different again.

I don't like not knowing what my role is.

Result = Apathy

And your 'selective lurking' = my poor memory, in so far as I forgot I was in this game.

???

[Tasky]

CLAIM: Compulsive Vigilante

I targeted Mafuyu N0, she died N1
I targeted BE N1, he was lynched and there was no NK N2.
this makes me seriously believe that I am in fact a delayed vig.
I don't know if I should claim my N2 target yet.

this is why:
a) I believed BE wasn't a good lynch as he would have died anyway
b) I do not believe there is a SK, since except the N0 kill there was no other NK apart from mine
c) I find it possible that scum has no NK. this would probably mean there are more of them and explain the high hitting percentage with the kills.

now, get off my wagon and start looking for scum.

[Tasky]

I am not going to announce who I will kill. conversely I will not kill on demand. that only makes scums life. they could have whatever sort of strange PR's.

I can agree with Fate's range, but I want smargaret and chronopie in there too.

[Tasky]

oh, fate, tell me. why is parama still on your list? didn't you accuse him of being SK? well, since we now know there is no SK, do you think he is scum?

[Tasky]

oh, fate, tell me. why is parama still on your list? didn't you accuse him of being SK? well, since we now know there is no SK, do you think he is scum?

Also from your POV the daykiller SHOULD be a SK, you eliminating that possibility makes it pretty clear you're the SK.

Jus' sayin'

<3

I was talking about the night-killer.
since I am responsible (probably) for the NK's, it can't be a SK.
of course there still could be a day-SK. but have you ever heard of a day-SK?

Tasky, where did you pull that 60% probability from yesterday?

as I already said, it was just a felt probability. a little more than half, but far from certainty.
If I had to guess, after the no-dead after the BE lynch, I'd say 80% that I am really a delayed vig (and not, e.g. a "naive" vig.)

[Tasky]

I have no problem being directed by town, as long as I get a list of at least 4/5 people

[Tasky]

Either this will confirm me as town, or it will confirm Fate as scum.

if this is true, then Fate should fulfill smargaret's request and tell whether or not he made a night-action.
in case smargaret won't then be able to confirm either him as town or Fate as scum, we simply lynch smargaret.

I think trading the information of whether or not he made a night action for:
either a confirmed scum (Fate)
or a confirmed townie (smargaret)
or a confirmed scum (smargaret, if he can't backup his claim)
is a gain in any case.

[Tasky]

Now comes the awkward silence portion of the debate.

Apathy is the only mafia casualty then, and Tasky is a delayed SK and the town has a dayvig. Mafuyu was BLOWN UP... a SK related death (bombs). There's most likely a mafia janitor still alive that when killed will reveal Apathy's role.

If we assume 1/4 mafia with an SK, we'd have 2 mafia left alive along side the now known SK. We have had (probably) no cop/doc flip beyond the JoaT (probably due to not knowing apathy's role). I'm feeling that a massclaim might be in order. There are obviously some protective roles, so we'll have a few days where the dayvig can hit possible scum picks giving us two lynches to find the last two scum.

Tasky won't be able to win at this point. I think he might be our best bet for a lynch today. He has no incentive to follow the will of the town, and we'll have to kill him eventually anyway.

unvote, vote: Tasky

look, I AM TOWN.

I will follow the will of the town as I want to win this game.
look, even if I way a SK, I would still be helping town, so there is no reason to lynch me today
I can understand that you cannot trust me and won't leave me until endgame, but it is TOTALLY STUPID to lynch me right now as you would lose one or maybe two kills decided by town on scum.
I don't know if the day-killer is a SK, it could be considering the kill-flavour. but I think trying to outguess the mod right now is nonsense.

also, look it this way:
sooner or later we will have to massclaim, right?
then, in that situation, I can NK the day-vig and then the next day he kills me.
that way we are sure there is no SK remaining and we don't need to waste a lynch (or actually two) later. whoever of us doesn't follow the plan, simply is a SK and will die killed by the other.
if there was a SK between me and the daykiller he couldn't win that way, BUT we would have the advantage of having two killers at least one of whose is PROTOWN and the other is in worst case NEUTRAL for one or two more days.
don't forget that even if there was a SK, he would have the same incentive to kill scum as town, so the best strategy is to keep both killers alive as long as possible and have us kill each other before lylo.

[Tasky]

the law has finally been shit-tastic as well.

I have no idea what this means. I'm going to repeat my request that you use lots of short, simple sentences to make translation easier.

he said that he (KoC) had shitty reads in the end.

[Tasky]

since chronopie disappeared I will hammer now, chronopie always has been scum:

tonight I will kill a player who appears in your lists.


UNVOTE: VOTE: chronopie.

[Tasky]

my N2 target was M=W. Since KoC didn't die, I assume my delayed vig hypothesis fails and I am in fact a naive vig who doesn't kill at all. The mafuyu death was probably a coincidence then.
that means however, that there is another night-killer around.
or of course I could have been blocked, or KoC (M=W) could have been protected.

Twomz, what does the blue color mean?

1) Chrono WAS the mafia janitor, in which case his role and apathy's role would be revealed tonight.

? I don't understand this.
why would a janitor's flip not be revealed?

[Tasky]

VOTE: KoC

[Tasky]

nice. good job, antihero.