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"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."-
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Naw, I can rusk hammering. I was being sarcastic. And the bomb is dead, so.
We're NOT absolutely sure MoI isn't black. More likely orange though. :/ tanny, if you live through this shoot KageLord/MoI.
Whatever. Let's do this.
Black is STILL the #1 threat to Yellow and Orange. Growing scumteam is always a threat.
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SO.
Kdub's death means they can recruit PRs. </3
"Enhancer". Huh.
I still have this nagging suspicion in a small part of my brain that the mods are mindfucking us and just flipping people black for lulz.
But that's probably not the case. (Though RC would totally do that.)
ANWAY.
ORDER OF OPERATIONS:
Dekes reports in and confirms my enhancement.
KageLord reports and claims."This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."-
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Dekes, did you get the Motivate from me?
KageLord, did YOU get anything from me?
@ MoI:
I'm Saint Walker, of the Blue Lantern Corps. I was assigned to Hal Jordan (who I thought would be dead in this game). My Blue Ring makes other people more powerful.
Each night I target someone, and IF THEY ARE TOWN AND TOWN ONLY they get to act twicethatnight. So it activates immediately.
N1: Plum (I read town on her, but she can be slippery so I investigated her.) I asked her if she got anything D2, which she didn't.
N2: nopointinactingup - nothing, SCUM
N3: tanstalas - nothing, SCUM
N4: Dekes - TOWN
N5: *waiting for others to confirm results* - *waiting*"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."-
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Its just, this is bastard.
A fucking cult when we knew nothing about it.
The game- now that its bastard_cult, is 15:10. Not exactly good odds.
We've come far; lynched 5 scumbags for 5 consecutive days; we've DESTROYED all NINE SCUMBAGS, and for what? So some bastard cultist that's just sat on his ass all fucking game can steal the win from under us?
Bollocks.
This is bullshit.
But fine.
We'll sit here.
I'll play the game. We're going to lynch this fucker, and we're going to win the goddamn thing. I've already done my "seriously guys, a bastardizeed cult?" to those above (probably laughing; RC: OH ANDY YOU GONNA LOSE TO ANOTHER CULT LOLOLOL HAVE FUN OH AND <333)
NO.
THIS IS NOT HOW THIS ENDS.
WE ARE GOING ALL THE WAY.
FUCKING LYNCHING SIX ANTI-TOWN MEMBERS IN A ROW.
AND WE WILL WIN THIS.
OR DIE WITH HONOR.
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Just wrote a shitload of flavor for Mordor.
Am here now.
Magna, the only reason we have to believe the Black Recruiter only recruited from N3 and on is Kast's claim. And he was Yellow scum. So that didn't work so well.
Trust me, had we NOT eliminated EVERY OTHER FUCKING SCUMBAG I would have thought it mod-driven. But we're still here, and that means one thing: there's a scumbag out there. Who we can lynch.
So. I think its worth a shot to lynch the mod. We are not No Lynching, because that's just retarded. The only reason we'd have to do that is if we KNEW he has no recruits, as he started N3 and each of them have been killed in-turn. But no. We don't know that, so he could have a second member, in which case No Lynching dooms us.
Nice thought, Magna, but its not happening.
I can agree to a mod vote.
But once KageLord gets here I'm going for the Black Recruiter- Nekron, or whoever-the-fuck he is."This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."-
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Dekes, the fact there is:
1) Mason RECRUITER
2) Mason COP
3) Blue PR
4) Blue Motivator
These all are Cops. So to say we couldn't have combated them isn't the issue. The issue is that there is a bastard cult.
Reck and Starbuck failed as hiding Masons.
I crumbed like hell because I was restricted to PRs. :/
Yay for Indigo-1.
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Things we can infer: Black Recruiter has existed since the beginning, since the ONLY indication otherwise was Kast's fakeclaim.
So he's been around; failed to recruit scumbag somewhere along the lines. We know this because they haven't won yet.
Recruits:
1: Toog
2: KK
3: Kdub
4: ??? - failed
5: ??? - failed/ last night's
THEORY:
recruiter PRs can use their powers
kdub gave recruiter gun and shot siniestro, who shot kdub
Who shot siniestro? KageLord.
kagelord is black recruiter, and used Kdub's shot to kill Kast.
Kdub was recruited inbetween SpyreX targeting him and before KageLord claimed. He could use the "1shot Vig" as the Blue gun.
Kdub would have been converted into Black, so the PR should still have worked.
So something like this, for the black recruiter's actions:
N1: Toog/KK/???
N2: Toog/KK/???
N3: Toog/KK/Kdub/???
N4: KK/Kdub/???
N5: Kdub/???
Probably targeted some scumbag down the line, got blocked or otherwise failed.
I believe in Mod-preference of roles. Namely because RC convinced me to stay in the game by bribing me with the possibility of being Mason Recruiter. I picked the wrong color as my primary.
So we're looking at:
CONFIRMED TOWN via me - DEKES
TOWNIER THAN THOU - Me
Stove is town unless the Black Recruiter is Investigation Immune, which is a possibility. But he's been fairly consistent in posting.
Magna claimed Bulletproof. Somehow I don't think the Cult Recruiter would WANT to make himself look more scummy.
Magna, are you notified when someone shoots you? Just curious.
So that leaves KageLord. KageLord, who has less than two full pages of ISO in this 84 page game. (Nevber mind I have almost 25% of all the game posts. ) KageLord who has no confirmable actions, except his shot at Siniestro which would have happened if Kdub gave him his Blue-shot. Perfect.
I'm betting it all on KageLord. Who just so happened to be away right now, and who has a MASSIVE posting delinquicy.
Even without night actions, this isn't hard:
Tells of a Cult Recruiter:
1) unconfirmable actions
2) won't claim a confirmable PR
3) investigates town
4) no NK
5) will claim VT unless they have a good FC with with non-confirmable actions
KAGELORD:
1) no confirmable actions, and since he had Kdub with him the shot at Siniestro works last night.
2) claimed JOAT. recruiter would never claim something like Cop or... Enhancer.
3) potentiality to be Stove, but hasn't been investigated
4) granted
5) CAN ANYONE SAY HAL FUCKING JORDAN?
Or, for that matter, ALBUS PERCIVAL WOOLFRICK BRIAN DUMBLEDORE?!? ANYONE REMEMBER THAT BULLSHIT?
Yeah.
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Not AS much.
1) He has NO actions, and hasn't claimed otherwise. Cult Recruiter would try to not be visible to trackers/watchers, so they'd want to fake some form of action.
2) yeah, but somehow I doubt the C.R. would willingly claim BP, since its generally something that is associated with scumbags. top-tier scumbags.
3) can't argue against this; no one's a miller here, so.
4) again, true
5) didn't claim VT. He could have easily claimed VT though.
Personally, I would have recruiter Stove once they said he was investigated. Look at Succession Mafia. The winning cult WON by following the investigations of the claimed Cops. They recruiter whoever was investigated the night before. (which was A BITCH).
I agree with the No Lynch suggestion. Unless he magically claims some form of "Oh I'm Deadman, White Lantern Extrodinaire" then its not happening.
True. Stove needs to get in here. His absence is unnerving.
Kdud would have definitely have passed a gun to his cultbags whenever he could, so he was probably recruited N4, AFTER passing the gun to Jack. Yeah, we owe Kast and Tans some for shooting each other's teams.
Yeah, I know Dekes. But if you follow me, as you all have done thus far, I will lead you to victory. We will win this.
Bastard_Cult or not, we will win this. *fistpump*
MoI has been consistent all-game, IIRC. KageLord has lurked pretty much ALL GAME, and only been really active lately, due to the "oh im HAL FUCKING JORDAN".
So yeah.
I'd feel best with a KageLord lynch. I think we all would."This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."-
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Ooooooh hey KageLord!
We know you shot Kast. The problem is you aren't a JOAT. You're lurklurk Black Recruiter, playing is safe and staying under the radar, expecting when all the yellows to be dead for the pressure to release and us to go hunt somewhere else. All of your claimed actions are non-confirmable, ESPECIALLY with Kdub being in your team from as early as N3 (which would still make sense with Jack killing SensFan). As long as Kdub was recruiter before N5 (most likely N4 IMO) you would have gotten his gun and shot Kast, both 1) killing all scum-opposition and 2) confirming your JOAT-ness. You HAD to recruit him eventually; you didn't claim ANY actions until N3; why? To avoid having to lie about your real actions (recruiting our born-and-bred townies).
Glad to know you've only skimmed. Makes me feel much better about your towniness. Now you're not just trying anymore. Hal Jordan isn't the Black Recruiter; he's a fakeclaim FOR the Black Recruiter- most likely Nekron.
Oh so now Dekes is scum? I confirmed him as town D5. So unless you're attempting to push a lynch on recruited_Dekes (only possible last night), in which case you'd be B.R. anyway, you're attacking confirmed town. Way to go!
No one else will claim the shot because you actually did shoot him. Only thing is, you didn't shoot him because you're Hal Jordan, JOAT. You shot him because BlackLantern_Kdub gave you his blueturnedblack_gun and you shot Kast with that.
I was actually hoping for the gun, tbh.
Answer: BECAUSE NO ONE THINKS IM WORTH THEIR TIME. It pissed me off; I go out of my way to make sure that I'm as open and upfront since MY FIRST POST and yet people go "oh, Andy is just crumbing and not actually some Cop that will catch MULTIPLE scumbags SINGLE-HANDEDLY". When I'm VT I usually crumb Vig, not Cop. But yeah. Here I am, crumbing D1, totally catching scum on the side and no one bothers to kill me. I'm just not a threat, I guess. Despite me being a near-Cop I'm just not worth the nightkill. Kill those Vanilla Townies, guys. They're sooooo dangerous; they might just pull a Guilty on you if you don't kill them!!!
OH NOES THE VANILLA TOWNIES ARE ALL SECRETLY VIGS AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH KILL THEM ALL AND DONT WORRY ABOUT ALL THE COPS OUT THERE!!!
*sigh* Its demoralizing to know that I'm playing near my best, AM A COP, and the scum won't even reward me with dying for my towniness.
[sarcasm]But you're right, KageLord, you're totally right. Since I'm sooooo ovtown and am still alive I MUST be the Black Recruiter, right? [/sarcasm]"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."-
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SOMEONE POSTED!
*waves back*Dekes wrote: *waves at not confirmed, but most obvtown Andy*
Don't get me wrong. I want to get Kage lynched just as much as you do. All setup speculation aside he's simply the scummiest guy out there. I'm just saying a lot of those points match MoI, too.
And I remember MoI getting cleared by both Kdub and KageLord. Something to remember.
Exactly. Cult Recruiter is usually under-the-radar in Dayplay to avoid NK and NP actions in general and also having unconfirmed night actions. "Oh yeah I investigated ABC and he's town", "oh yeah I protected DEF last night you bet".
Again, this was definitely ascumtell. Mainly flailing. "are we suuuuure Andy is ovtown? How about Dekes? anyone but me?"Dekes wrote: But good job on the half-assed suspicion against confirmed town only to backpaddle and admit it could just be OMGUS on your part.
Surprised he didn't bring up Stove's non-name-claiming deal.
GOOD POINT, DEKES.
KageLord_Recruiter: "Why is Andy alive?"
Dekes_Ovtown: "Because you protected him?? (and I did too, y'know)"
Andy_ovtown:
KageLord_Recruiter:
So yeah. I'm willing to drop a vote tomorrow, assuming MoI comes back and Stove claims.
But in all honestly, I'll feel completely secure with me and Dekes +1.
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I mean to say that when Kdub was recruited, he probably got a new Role pm with his new wincon and teammmates or whatever other important info there is; non-town cannot get blue gifts when we are blue. I'm willing to bet that Kdub's power, like his role and alignment and wincon, were altered upon recruition. So yes, he totally gave you a gun and you shot Kast last night.
You didn't know he wasn't one; you shot according to our decree yesterday. We all didn't think he'd flip yellow. We figured he'd flip black.
I know, I was just being sarcastic, hence the tags.
Except for the fact that I'm NOT confirmed town.KageLord wrote: And it doesn't seem odd to you that out of all players I would attempt to throw suspicion on obvtown? If I was final scum close to being nailed, I would almost certainly go for Stove or MoI before you two. Though, tbh, I would have recruited Andy at the first opportunity.
And if I were recruited there would be HARSH WORDS in the cult QT because I utterly HATE being anything other than town, namely because I can't actually PLAY as non-town. Hence why I picked town colors, because I WANTED TO BE TOWN.
True, but on dekes only.kagelord wrote: But the protection was apparently blocked at least last night. >.>
Btw, Andy, can you remind me of how you confirmed Dekes to yourself?
My role works on town only. He was the first one to receive the double-act, and confirmed it. So he is 100% pro-town as of D5. He might have been recruited last night and lied, but I trust Dekes enough.
And the town NOT having a Doc will mean HARSH WORDS with mods post-game.
UNLESS he happened to pick up all my role-related crumbs D2... I crumbed my character D1 and my power D2.
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All from D2:
Andy wrote: OHMIGOD FATE CLAIMZ COP.
I CALL GOING NEXT.Andy wrote: I don't know, Fate.
Motivate me.Andy wrote: You speak in riddles, good sir. I'm not sure I follow, but you've motivated me so I'll attempt to do the same.Andy wrote: Oh I wasn't claiming Cop.
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I read the bolded, Magna, I'm just saying I would have supported a mod-lynch if we thought it was viable.
I didn't take it as Gospel-Truth.
Oh Magna. You don't think I'm good enough to have played this great for this long? I'm wounded, Magna.Magna wrote: I’m almost positive that you are joking here but statements like this really make me wary.
Recruiting from the confirmed-town pool is always better than the ovtown pool. Because they're confirmed.Magna wrote: If I was looking at logical potential recruits you and Andy would be at the top of my list, followed by Stove a fair distance back. You both were under no lynch pressure and since especially since the mass color claim.
Magna.Magna wrote:I’m going to be thinking over Dekes’ point I referenced above but I don’t think inferring anything at this point is safe. IIRC Kast made his fake-claim after the first Black Lantern flip.
We have NO EVIDENCE to support the Blackmagically joined the gamesomewhere during N2/D3. So what, some town player is magically converted to Black Recruiter? The Black Recruiter existed from the beginning, but "sorry, you can't recruit until Plum is dead".
No more than I expected, to be honest.Magna wrote: My role PM does not specify and I’ve never received any PM from the Mods indicating so. When I inquired about the possibility I got the usual song-and-dance saying basically ‘Maybe, maybe not, I’m not going to tell you regardless’.
Oh hush Magna. Next thing I know you're going to lynch ME.Magna wrote: Yeah you do know that this pretty much applies to every remaining player to some degree besides yourself, right?
These are just tells. This, combined with DayPlay is an essential GUIDE to catching them.
Not that hard.
I had a choice there, and I chose selfishly.Magna wrote:After seeing the end of Choose Your Side firsthand this makes me hate you even more Andy. </3
I repaid the blood debt in Succession Mafia, where I let myself be killed in Endgame over winning with the Cult. (RC can attest to this.)
I didn't know you hated me at all, Magna.
Bolded for lulz.Magna wrote:1. You claimed to have protected Andy himself with your ‘JOAT’ power.
2. Andy’s early play and claim landed him as solidly perceived Town which would make him an obv-Doc target.
3. The question you should be asking as Town is not why Andy is alive but why Dekes (as outed Doc with enhanced powers) isn’t dead and why Kdub died. Because that is perhaps the least likely course of events in my mind.
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So I'm a tad self-centered.Magna wrote:Um, whut? I was speaking to Dekes. I'm not doubting you've played a great game. I saw Prison Mafia first-hand. I'm doubting 100% you could possibly be the Black Recruitor since you outed the limitation to your and Kdub's power before you could have know about it as said recruitor (aka Day 1).
I outed it D1?
I'll stop debating this though. I like being ovtown.
Unless they were expecting a recruitment of Jack to go through when it didn't, we need to get it down that he's probably existed since D1.Magna wrote:That said after some minor reflection there is no way in my mind Kdub could have been changed N2 with Plum's death and handed the gun to Jack on Day 3. I just don't see him taking that chance with Jack the wild-card. So, yes, I agree we've had Mr. Black from the start.
I was being sarcastic.Magna wrote: Um no Andy. Getting the recruiter is paramount since lynching a possible recruit doesn't move us forward but more or less seals the game unless the Cult is out of recruits and only numbers the Recruiter right now.
Sorry. I really am. UK still isn't talking to me...Magna wrote: I don't hate you Andy. I just was infuriated with the end of that game. AGM should have been hung from the rafters the minute he made his TERRIBLE original claim (which from my direct knowledge I knew had to be fake) and doubly so when he claimed unlynchability. Tans proved that is a complete bullshit claim that must be challenged. That you chose to give yourself over to AGM's cult as opposed to just lynching his lying ass to this Day makes my blood boil. You had a choice ....
But I definitely feel I've paid my blood debt to all of you.
I'll refrain from bringing that up again. :/
No problem. I'll be ready to vote tomorrow after Econ, so cases/nameclaims from Stove would be amazing beforehand."This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."-
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I'm voting later today; just a heads-up.
Today is going surprisingly well and winning this game after all the work and sacrifice and SCUM LYNCHES would be amazing.
Perfect end to a great day.
Stove claiming would be great, but if not that's cool; he's probably recruited by KageLord if he's just lurking right now."This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."-
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Gospel TruthMagna wrote: I started from the standpoint that we have to lynch the Recruiter today. Otherwise even if we lynch a Black recruit we go down to 4 players at night. Risking the game on lynching a minion on the hope that the leader can’t act again is not a risk I want to take."This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."-
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