Ok first I’ll catch-up with the thread …
Andrius wrote:So. I think its worth a shot to lynch the mod. We are not No Lynching, because that's just retarded. The only reason we'd have to do that is if we KNEW he has no recruits, as he started N3 and each of them have been killed in-turn. But no. We don't know that, so he could have a second member, in which case No Lynching dooms us.
Dekes wrote:Suddenly MoI's suggestion to No Lynch became very shady.
You two did read the ALL CAPS BOLD TEXT and post-script right. Please don’t suggest that my ramblings were in any way a suggestion of the route we should take.
There is no way in hell you’d get me to agree with a No Lynch today even if I felt 80% chance the Tinfoil theory was right. At this point I don't even think bothering with a 100% Mod vote is worth the time.
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Dekes wrote:It's not you, Andrius, is it?
I’m almost positive that you are joking here but statements like this really make me wary. From Town-Dekes POV Andy MUST be confirmed not-Black recruiter. You’ve now claimed twice to received Blue colored motivation from him. And he’s been claiming Blue power for Days on end and obviously not been counter-claimed. He can’t be the Big Bad Black.
@Dekes
– Your mini-case at 2094 is interesting. I will need to re-read (hopefully tonight) Kagelord. I’ve seen his play as scum and want to see if I see specific aspects that mimic that play as well as confirming your point 1.
I’d like an answer to the following question – does your Point 2 suggest you feel more strongly that Plum’s death caused a 4 person Black Lantern Corp (1 from each color) to come into existence N2 than you do in the existence of an active Black recruitor?
Dekes wrote:If we go with the recruiter theory there's a good chance MoI has been recruited. If Kdub was recruited earlier than N3 AND he's able to pass his shot to other recruitees (scary thought) then it makes sense that Jack got the blue vig shot by Kdub N3 and subsequently it would mean that Kdub continued to pass on his vig shot to other recruitees (if this is true we actually have to thank Kast for redirecting MoI's kill to KK).
Actually that’s possibly the worst line of thinking on recruits I could come up with. You don’t recruit someone who you think has any chance of being lynched. And my chances of being lynched were higher than any remaining players (up until the last Yellow flipped anyway) other than Kage.
If I was looking at logical potential recruits you and Andy would be at the top of my list, followed by Stove a fair distance back. You both were under no lynch pressure and since especially since the mass color claim.
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Andrius wrote:Things we can infer: Black Recruiter has existed since the beginning, since the ONLY indication otherwise was Kast's fakeclaim.
I’m going to be thinking over Dekes’ point I referenced above but I don’t think inferring anything at this point is safe. IIRC Kast made his fake-claim after the first Black Lantern flip.
Andrius wrote:Magna, are you notified when someone shoots you? Just curious.
My role PM does not specify and I’ve never received any PM from the Mods indicating so. When I inquired about the possibility I got the usual song-and-dance saying basically ‘Maybe, maybe not, I’m not going to tell you regardless’.
Andrius wrote:Tells of a Cult Recruiter:
1) unconfirmable actions
2) won't claim a confirmable PR
3) investigates town
4) no NK
5) will claim VT unless they have a good FC with with non-confirmable actions
Yeah you do know that this pretty much applies to every remaining player to some degree besides yourself, right?
Andrius wrote:And if I were recruited there would be HARSH WORDS in the cult QT because I utterly HATE being anything other than town, namely because I can't actually PLAY as non-town. Hence why I picked town colors, because I WANTED TO BE TOWN.
After seeing the end of Choose Your Side firsthand this makes me hate you even more Andy. </3
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Kagelord wrote:Question: Why is Andy still alive? I'm not saying it's evidence of anything against him, but I just want to know what everyone thinks is the reason because I can't think of any good reason.
Your whole catch-up post was fairly suspect but this take the cake right here. I’ve read your later ‘retraction’ but this is just not consistent with what Town-Kage should be thinking.
1. You claimed to have protected Andy himself with your ‘JOAT’ power.
2. Andy’s early play and claim landed him as solidly perceived Town which would make him an obv-Doc target.
3. The question you should be asking as Town is not why Andy is alive but why Dekes (as outed Doc with enhanced powers) isn’t dead and why Kdub died. Because that is perhaps the least likely course of events in my mind.
Kage wrote:Also, the theory does assume that I knew for a fact that Kast wasn't actually a JOAT (if he was and I killed him, I would get screwed).
Using Kast’s obv-fake role-claim as ‘Evolving JOAT who skipped his Doc protect and suddenly gained Anti-Black powers when Town needed them most’ as defense for your claim is scummy. Of course you could shoot him with impunity. It was a horrible claim. Your later claim of plain old Regular JOAT would be supported by his scum flip.
Kage wrote:And it doesn't seem odd to you that out of all players I would attempt to throw suspicion on obvtown? If I was final scum close to being nailed, I would almost certainly go for Stove or MoI before you two. Though, tbh, I would have recruited Andy at the first opportunity.
Hmmm … a dash of WIFOM about how you would have recruited Andy early (before his unclaimed and then nebulous Powers were explained).
Then another dash of WIFOM saying ‘Why would I attack Obv-Town if I was scum’. Umm, why as Town would you bother making that statement anyway? Andy isn’t possibly the Black Recruiter so going after him is pointless.
"I am a leaf on the wind ... watch how I soar!"
Pretty much Geriatric game restricted at this point ... unless there are players I REALLY want to play with.
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