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I think Toogeloo's strike wasn't scummy. Acting impulsively is a null-tell. The people jumping all over him for it I find more scummy, CKD/Hresz/KageLord being prime examples. KageLord's vote post was ridiculously vague.
Kage, which do you think it is? Bad town play, or a scummy move? The vote implies that it's the latter, but it seems to me like you just mentioned the first so you'd have an excuse for if/when he flips town.
UNVOTE: Wraith
VOTE: KageLord
I still suspect Wraith, though - not just cause he's worrying about the setup/gamebreaking, but because he's done nothing else worth mentioning except chide Toogeloo for the strike (which is an easy way to buy yourself town points).-
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MoI, where did I say Toog was definitively stupid town, or that I even had a town read on him? I just think the strike is a complete null-tell.
Kage, same thing with you.
Exactly my point. And one game doesn't make a meta attack legitimate.I don't get how saying "it's a dumb scum strat" (paraphrasing here) is a real defense of Toog's actions. Wouldn't "it's a dumb town strat" be an equal attack against it? All it says is that it was a dumb move either way.-
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It's a CLEAR anti-town motivation, but anti-town doesn't make him scum.
I feel like I'm defending him too much, because I don't have a town read on him. I think his reaction to the strike shows some scumminess, but the strike itself isn't inherently scummy.
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ABR basically said what I had to say in response to this. This is a pretty baseless case. I also didn't call out Gummy for lurking - it was more towards ObliviousDruidMuncher and Baby Spice. I still think it was a valid concern.ThAdmiral wrote:
You had me as scum because I was defending wraith's position on not wanting to break the game, right? If anything AGar was defending wraith's positionExe wrote:@LOL at ThAd.
Are you going to claim that you and Agar are exactly alike? Because unless you can prove that, there is no inconsistency.more stronglythan I was.
@ everyone:Check out friend, he's done a bunch of weird stuff so far including:
- voting wraith for playstyle choice (obv he wasn't the only one guilty of this)
- defending toogeloo because the action was "anti-town but not scummy" (not actual quote, paraphrased)
- claiming gummy had been lurking after 2 days
- thinks bunnylover is "scum most likely" (actual quote) but keeps his vote on hrezs. Reason he voted hrezs in the first place? Hasn't supplied one.
- In fact points out that others (such as exe) have been contributing just as little as hrezs. Still keeps vote on hrezs.
vote: friend
Am I not allowed to scumhunt if my vote on is on another player? That's also not the problem I have with Exe, by the way. It seems like you're just skimming the thread.-
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Hrezs is a solid wagon. That's not the point I'm trying to contend. The ultimate point I'm trying to make is that you're scum - I think that's pretty clear.
I don't think you're missing my point on accident. I'm saying it's hypocritical to accuse someone of not contributing anything more than basic analysis when you contributed fluff. I find hypocrisy scummy.Exe wrote:Umm...since when in Mafia are you not allowed to accuse someone of something scummy unless you've contributed X amount to the thread? That's hardly how this game works.-
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Not true. I found the quote where you called out Hrezs hypocritical. It's because of the weak content in that vote post and the lack of content before.
And don't act like it's just "participating in the RVS." You could have talked about Wraith. Why didn't you discuss the Wraith issue instead of just messing around?-
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So you are anti-Hrezs wagon?ThAdmiral wrote:Basically because there is a lot of scum in this game I believe easy lynches are going to occur much more frequently. This is because scum will generally be happy with any lynch that is not of their own member. I am not suggesting all the scum are going to pile on every lynch, but I certainly think we won't be seeing as many divisive views on most wagons as you would in other games. My theory, therefore, is to discard the first bandwagon of the day as any subsequent bandwagon, comprised of a core of the people who weren't on the original bandwagon, will be inherently less scummy (or scum-driven) than the first one.-
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You're ignoring this:Exe wrote:Seriously, how am I wrong here? He's not reading the thread, and his entire accusation was essentially just rhetoric.
CKD wrote:Bullshit, it wasn’t a deflection…scum points for BOTH.
Vote Exe, Agar, might believe that crap (but I dont think he does), but I really doubt you...I also dont like how you are jumping on Hrez as the wagon is getting hot.-
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Hey guys. I'm just gonna go ahead and tell you guys to look at my past games. Yeah, succession mafia. Yeah, Vi's Mafia on Holy Orders. Yeah, a couple ongoing ones where I've been lynched. All as town.
And you'll see that the way I put forth my scum targets is not really in cases. I call out people. I say people are scummy without really putting it into concrete words. But it's just the way I play, and I've seen too many scum-driven wagons go through on me because of it. It's total bullshit.
I want LLD dead, but with all the strikes it's not worth it. Of the two competing wagons, KageLord is the scummier. If you really want I can try and organize my thoughts on him, but it's really not the way I play.-
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