Strategy Mafia (Town Victory!)

Maruchan · Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:54 pm

-goes to page 1 to read what security room does now that me being sent there is actual realities-

Maruchan · Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:00 pm

Andrius I think the only tunnel shown to us so far was into tipping point.

Maruchan · Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:14 pm

definitely shut door behind if you plan on lynching, since chits renew after the day starts

Maruchan · Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:43 am

I'm down for a BS lynch

Maruchan · Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:50 am

In post 2045, Zajnet wrote:Wait, why do we think Maru is town?

This is why he doesn't get potioned.

Maruchan · Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:48 pm

if we insure it then uninsure door close it should work

Maruchan · Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:25 pm

uninsured security room closed

Maruchan · Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:19 am

In post 2059, Llamarble wrote:Asking why you're town isn't cause for no-potions.
Revisiting old assumptions is healthy for town.
I want Zajnet moved to the potion room.

No but the way he asked came off as an accusation, and he generally didn't remember, which means he wasn't paying enough attention which is anti-townie behavior.

+All the asking for potions.

Maruchan · Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:07 pm

Plum, why is the door not closed?

Maruchan · Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:08 pm

In post 2092, Llamarble wrote:PLAN:
Regfan, NS, Hito go to party.
Ship everyone else out.

Maruchan watches the party room.
All the people we want to keep alive live.
WHEEEEE

Wouldn't it be safer for me to tell you all I am WOFIMing my room target so as to keep scum from planning around it?

Maruchan · Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:10 pm

In post 2104, Llamarble wrote:Eh, maru dying is better than NS dying.

Me not dying is better than me dying though, is it not?

lets get plum to close that door or ship the fuck someone else to DC to close it.

Scum have ONE more for 3 rounds free. they can't fuck us up too much.

Maruchan · Sat Sep 17, 2011 3:04 am

In post 2112, Regfan wrote:Mason claim makes this that much easier. Llarmable, my town-read on Baby is based on nothing more than her soft-claims reading as strongly town and Hito really not playing a town game at the moment, he's standing back doing a bit of nothing and his Klazam shot is still horrendous. Tclwar lynch and Plum/Naut shot tonight sound good though.

Town (Strongest to weakest):
Nobody Special, Llarmable, Maruchan, Andrius, Baby Spice, Lady Lambdadelta, Zajnet.

Third Party:
Hito

Scum (Strongest to weakest):
Tclwaren, Plum, Nautilius.

Honestly I think Hito's PR is more likely to be an SK cuz it is easier to reload, and Baby is more likely to be a town vig because it is so bulky

Maruchan · Sat Sep 17, 2011 3:05 am

Oh, and THAT is why door should've been closed.

Maruchan · Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:55 am

then we do an insured move to electirc, and ininsured move to security, then next round insured to security, uninsured door close?

Maruchan · Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:14 am

methinks Plum is scum or out of chits?

Maruchan · Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:28 am

isayplum

Maruchan · Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:52 am

In post 2005, Maruchan wrote:
In post 2004, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1994, Maruchan wrote:
When did I ever say I think I am the shit at this game?

go read all of my D1, where I said "WOW PEOPLEZ ACTUALYL THINK I AM TOWN> THIS IS SO WEIRD> I AM USUALLY CONFSCUM IN PPLZ MINDS EVEN AS TOWN".

to paraphrase: I am not THE shit at this game, I am SHIT at this game.

Maruchan wrote:therefore this post is also AtE,

I agree Maru. This post IS AtE. See, what you did is ACTUALLY AtE. You couldn't argue your way out of it, so instead you attacked me on the pretense that you're only a little newbie, and that I should know better.

Also, this is why AtE is a shit tell, because you're town. And you're using AtE. So. -shrug-

Can we get back to lynching the real scum? (I.E: Tclaw)

Did I ever attack you?

no Now you are ATEing sommuor.

THe more you pull this shit the more scummy you look.

I said I do NOT thin kI am the shit, that I think I am shit, I NEVER said I was a newbie, jsut that I am shit at this game. there is a difference.

heylukicaughtscum

Maruchan · Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:55 am

^^^

I think we need to rid ourselves of baby and hito both by the end of tonight.

Maruchan · Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:55 am

@ANdrius, TWO BLUE.

we all have 6 chits now

Maruchan · Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:35 am

Vote: Zajnet

Yeah.

This is good play.

Maruchan · Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:44 am

Why are you town?

Maruchan · Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:34 am

Sounds like a lot of fun but I have vowed to not in for any more games until I am OUT of all my current ones so.

Maruchan · Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:00 pm

Other than "Hasn't done much at all" please point out where exactly I am scummy? with links and references and quotes please.

Maruchan · Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:01 pm

Oh and go ahead and potion yourself. I dare ya

Maruchan · Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:12 pm

ME telling you to potion yourself to see who town reacts make me scummy how?

andlolnicecase.

Try summor. Like LONGER as to why I am scum. "Why is he town" is the wrong question.

Maruchan · Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:49 am

No, I have been acting how I act all the time, and everybody else has decided to treat me like I'm town.

I never said I don't want you to consider why I'm town, I said point to things I have said that make me NOT town. You need to learn2read my friend.

And your lack of doing so STILL, shows there is nothing for you to use as ammo.

Which is why I'm town.

Also, did we miss a round?

Maruchan · Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:52 am

In post 1659, Zajnet wrote:
In post 1654, Regfan wrote:"I don't like him re: the chair and
he's scummy
" doesn't count as providing reasoning for pushing his lynch.

I'd like a few answers/responses from you:

1. Who are your five strongest town-reads and your five-strongest suspects and why?
2. Why did you move yourself to the campfire without claiming it if you stated you read the thread and therefore knew we were claiming all moves?
3. If talking about strategy is a scum-tell does that mean you want to vote Hito and does that mean Feysal was mafia? If no then why else is Tclwaren mafia?
4. Why did you suggest and volunteer yourself to go to the potion room when no one had a town-read on you and meant that you claimed your role?

1. I don't have time to give all of my reasons, its 3am. I'll post more tomorrow. But here are my reads.
Town:
Maru
Llamarble
Fate
Andy

Scum:
Soda
Tclaw

Leaning Scum:
NS
Amrun

Everyone else is pretty null.

2. I hadn't read the thread yet.

3. Talking about strategy is not inherently a scumtell, but it seems to me like Tclaw has been using it to mask that he isn't scumhunting.

4. Why not? And there are people out there who have expressed a townie read on me. I'm the only one currently in the Nexus, making it me who would be moved to test Andy, and then I'll be right next to the potions room. So why not?

In post 2210, Zajnet wrote:
In post 2209, Maruchan wrote:ME telling you to potion yourself to see who town reacts make me scummy how?

andlolnicecase.

Try summor. Like LONGER as to why I am scum. "Why is he town" is the wrong question.

Why is he town is the perfect question. You have been acting like entitled town all game, and you're not actually confirmed. The above quoted post is just another example. He doesn't want us to consider why he's town, which is nothing. He'd rather us look at why he's scum, which is also nothing. Until now.

Hey what changed scumBro?

Maruchan · Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:53 am

I'll tell you what changed: You admitted early-on to not reading the first 30-some-odd pages thoroughly, and therefore (as scum) you posted up a list of reads that mirrored the town's list of reads, without knowing why you were posting it up, due to lack of reading.

If you want to know why I am town, go rad the first 40 pages of the game that you never read due to being lazyscum.

Maruchan · Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:15 am

I think its lylo guys.

Maruchan · Sun Sep 25, 2011 12:01 pm

In post 2233, zoraster wrote:
Zajnet the Vanilla Townie was killed.

Nobody Special the Town Mason was killed

You mean LyLo. 4:2 with 2 night kills means LyLo.

Maruchan · Sun Sep 25, 2011 1:52 pm

Oh yeah its vig shot, I thought we had SK shooting, not vig shooting.

muh bad

Maruchan · Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:56 pm

In post 2245, Regfan wrote:There's 1-2 scum in [Andrius, Nautilius and Maruchan]

Vote: Andrius

Maruchan · Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:57 pm

In post 2248, Andrius wrote:Ok got it I found his power.

Also, didn't ge flake from the site?

Mod disallowed me to replace out of this game, so I am keeping in for this game only.

Maruchan · Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:57 pm

In post 2250, zoraster wrote:Maru told me he'd stay in my game as I did not particularly relish finding a replacement for a 90 page game in this replacement environment.

In post 2252, Maruchan wrote:
In post 2248, Andrius wrote:Ok got it I found his power.

Also, didn't ge flake from the site?

Mod disallowed me to replace out of this game, so I am keeping in for this game only.

drats he beat me to it.

Maruchan · Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:05 am

In post 2257, Nautilius wrote:Actually, here's what I think should happen:

Andy, Maru --> Secluded Villa (6 chits insured)
Hito---> Secluded Villa, reload --> Door Control (2 chits insured, 1 Hito Chit)
Shut door between Secluded Villa and Ragetorium, and between the ragetorium and the electric chair. (4 Hito Chits)
Open the door to the panic room, let llamarble out. (1 Hito Chit)
Llamarble, Reg --> Party Room (10 chits, insured)

This leaves exactly 12 chits left over, which is coincidentally all the chits the scum have to work with. So we should be able to get all of this done, assuming scum conscription and whatnot.

Before this begins, I'm going to point out something:
If I am scum, Maruchan is my likeliest buddy.
If Andrius is scum, Regfan is his likeliest buddy.

Meaning that if I am not scum, Maru probably isn't either.
If Andy's not scum, Reg's probably not either.

But I just want to point out Andy and Reg's mutual backing up of one another and attacking of Maruchan, so you can understand the basis of my plan.

Anyways, after all this good stuff happens, I'm lynched with Andy dying by gunfire on a townflip. If I'm scum, this leaves hito with a wide open shot on Maru which would probably end the game, or, at worst, leave the section with hitoconftown and andyprobtown. If I'm town, this leaves conftownhito and 99.5%town maru safe behind closed doors. It also leaves 99%townLlamarble and Regfan outside of closed doors. If Reg is scum, he will be forced to shoot Llamarble. If Maru is scum, he will be forced to shoot hito. Meaning that if for some crazy/obnoxious reason lynching Regfan and shooting Andrius doesn't end the game, we still have leeway to survive, and hito will have the option to A) shoot maru to kill both of them simultaneously, or B) lynch Regfan the next day, a Regfan that won't be able to reach him through the closed door. As a bonus, it's a pretty safe guess that Maru, if mafia, would not have any powers at all, or a pretty good chance of having the door opening power (why lie about what you received from potions?), and thus couldn't run from the righteous bullets of justice.

Anyways, I know this is ranty(ish), but I'll whip the plan into shape when I have more time and it's not sleepytime, and answer questions in the meantime.

Always have to have path from nexus to door control. Cant close that door

Maruchan · Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:01 am

I didn't see that till after I posted that sorry. Feel free to delete it

Maruchan · Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:51 pm

In post 2293, Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:
Andrius wrote:Also no tunnels in villa when I checked days ago.

This is why you're scum, just fyi.

You claim to be the Town Passage Finder, but we know there is a secret passage in the Secluded Villa and yet you claim you didn't find any.

Bodysnatcher role PM wrote:You have a lair that is behind a secret passage to the north of the Secluded Villa.

Bodysnatcher role PM wrote:If your lair is discovered and entered, any player strapped to the table will be released in his current condition.

Considering it's fairly plausible that a scum tunnel role would make this fake claim and you had no way of knowing that the Villa did contain a secret passage at the time, yeah, you're scum.

This made me glad I replaced out.

Maruchan · Tue Sep 27, 2011 4:16 pm

In post 2326, Magua wrote:

Yeah, replacing out while you're still around the site. Well done, there.

Yeah not having time to play games, sorry bout that.

I can't log in to the site for five minutes or so every day to check on the results of games I cared about? Sometimes you can have time to visit, but not time to participate. Sorry that real life jumped up in my face when I wasn't expecting it.

And ujus buthurt my replacement caught your last scum.

Maruchan · Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:32 am

In post 2336, Magua wrote:
In post 2328, Maruchan wrote:I can't log in to the site for five minutes or so every day to check on the results of games I cared about? Sometimes you can have time to visit, but not time to participate. Sorry that real life jumped up in my face when I wasn't expecting it.

And ujus buthurt my replacement caught your last scum.

Replacing out because real life has come up is one thing.

Replacing out and then congratulating yourself on replacing out because your replacement was so much better than you is entirely another.

I wasn't congratulating myself. I was saying I was glad he was better than me, for the town's sake.

Maruchan · Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:38 pm

In post 2366, zoraster wrote:some time i'm going to run an invitational with pairs of people who can't stand each other. There will be UK and Reck, Fate and.. well, let's be honest that could be a lot of people but LLD... who else, who else?

Put Fate with me. I think the "Receive a punch in the face" comment in Reckoner's meet thread shows Fate pretty much hates my guts after my day1 quickvig diyvig of him.

Maruchan · Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:40 pm

@Zajnet, what made you start flipping so hard on calling me scum for the only reason of you not seeing why I was town? Its like early game, you agreed with everyone that I was town, then all the sudden halfway through the second to last day you started tunneling hard on me bro.