Strategy Mafia (Town Victory!)

[zoraster]

Maru told me he'd stay in my game as I did not particularly relish finding a replacement for a 90 page game in this replacement environment.

[Maruchan]

There's 1-2 scum in [Andrius, Nautilius and Maruchan]

Vote: Andrius

[Maruchan]

Ok got it I found his power.

Also, didn't ge flake from the site?

Mod disallowed me to replace out of this game, so I am keeping in for this game only.

[Maruchan]

Maru told me he'd stay in my game as I did not particularly relish finding a replacement for a 90 page game in this replacement environment.

Ok got it I found his power.

Also, didn't ge flake from the site?

Mod disallowed me to replace out of this game, so I am keeping in for this game only.

drats he beat me to it.

[Nautilius]

I'm off from school next week so hold off on stuff until then
next week = tomorrow
and the rest of the week

-Elli

Why no claim of protection?

Because I've been the head that's mostly been handling everything. We protected Reg last night.

hitogoroshi, to answer your question, there's nothing special about our role. We are a bodyguard, cannot protect through closed doors, and our protect loses priority the farther away from our target we are. It costs no chits to protect.

[Nautilius]

I can't get over the strength of town-read I get from Andrius's claim right now.

I don't even know the specifics of Andrius's claim right now. And I definitely have an opinion on it, but I'd rather hold of on comment until he full fakeclaims.

[Nautilius]

Naut is pretty much 1v1 with Andrius now barring RegfanRoleblocker, right?
Also do we think this is mylo or no?

How does RegfanRoleblocker change anything?

hito, llama are conf.town. Maru's play is townie but we shouldn't make that leap. I definitely think Naut is scum. I'm not sure whether its him+buddy or just him (is there even a way to tell?).

This tells me there's a pretty great chance of us not being in mylo. If we were in mylo, pretty sure scum-Andy would just line up all his eggs in a basket in buddying up to everyone but him.

[Nautilius]

Actually, here's what I think should happen:

Andy, Maru --> Secluded Villa (6 chits insured)
Hito---> Secluded Villa, reload --> Door Control (2 chits insured, 1 Hito Chit)
Shut door between Secluded Villa and Ragetorium, and between the ragetorium and the electric chair. (4 Hito Chits)
Open the door to the panic room, let llamarble out. (1 Hito Chit)
Llamarble, Reg --> Party Room (10 chits, insured)

This leaves exactly 12 chits left over, which is coincidentally all the chits the scum have to work with. So we should be able to get all of this done, assuming scum conscription and whatnot.


Before this begins, I'm going to point out something:
If I am scum, Maruchan is my likeliest buddy.
If Andrius is scum, Regfan is his likeliest buddy.

Meaning that if I am not scum, Maru probably isn't either.
If Andy's not scum, Reg's probably not either.

But I just want to point out Andy and Reg's mutual backing up of one another and attacking of Maruchan, so you can understand the basis of my plan.

Anyways, after all this good stuff happens, I'm lynched with Andy dying by gunfire on a townflip. If I'm scum, this leaves hito with a wide open shot on Maru which would probably end the game, or, at worst, leave the section with hitoconftown and andyprobtown. If I'm town, this leaves conftownhito and 99.5%town maru safe behind closed doors. It also leaves 99%townLlamarble and Regfan outside of closed doors. If Reg is scum, he will be forced to shoot Llamarble. If Maru is scum, he will be forced to shoot hito. Meaning that if for some crazy/obnoxious reason lynching Regfan and shooting Andrius doesn't end the game, we still have leeway to survive, and hito will have the option to A) shoot maru to kill both of them simultaneously, or B) lynch Regfan the next day, a Regfan that won't be able to reach him through the closed door. As a bonus, it's a pretty safe guess that Maru, if mafia, would not have any powers at all, or a pretty good chance of having the door opening power (why lie about what you received from potions?), and thus couldn't run from the righteous bullets of justice.

Anyways, I know this is ranty(ish), but I'll whip the plan into shape when I have more time and it's not sleepytime, and answer questions in the meantime.

[zoraster]

Cogito Ergo Sum Replaces Maruchan

Horay for Cogito!

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Yarr!

[Llamarble]

So you protected Regfan instead of the claimed mason who died???
I find that error kind of hard to believe from Nauttown.
I'll reread later though.

[Maruchan]

Actually, here's what I think should happen:

Andy, Maru --> Secluded Villa (6 chits insured)
Hito---> Secluded Villa, reload --> Door Control (2 chits insured, 1 Hito Chit)
Shut door between Secluded Villa and Ragetorium, and between the ragetorium and the electric chair. (4 Hito Chits)
Open the door to the panic room, let llamarble out. (1 Hito Chit)
Llamarble, Reg --> Party Room (10 chits, insured)

This leaves exactly 12 chits left over, which is coincidentally all the chits the scum have to work with. So we should be able to get all of this done, assuming scum conscription and whatnot.


Before this begins, I'm going to point out something:
If I am scum, Maruchan is my likeliest buddy.
If Andrius is scum, Regfan is his likeliest buddy.

Meaning that if I am not scum, Maru probably isn't either.
If Andy's not scum, Reg's probably not either.

But I just want to point out Andy and Reg's mutual backing up of one another and attacking of Maruchan, so you can understand the basis of my plan.

Anyways, after all this good stuff happens, I'm lynched with Andy dying by gunfire on a townflip. If I'm scum, this leaves hito with a wide open shot on Maru which would probably end the game, or, at worst, leave the section with hitoconftown and andyprobtown. If I'm town, this leaves conftownhito and 99.5%town maru safe behind closed doors. It also leaves 99%townLlamarble and Regfan outside of closed doors. If Reg is scum, he will be forced to shoot Llamarble. If Maru is scum, he will be forced to shoot hito. Meaning that if for some crazy/obnoxious reason lynching Regfan and shooting Andrius doesn't end the game, we still have leeway to survive, and hito will have the option to A) shoot maru to kill both of them simultaneously, or B) lynch Regfan the next day, a Regfan that won't be able to reach him through the closed door. As a bonus, it's a pretty safe guess that Maru, if mafia, would not have any powers at all, or a pretty good chance of having the door opening power (why lie about what you received from potions?), and thus couldn't run from the righteous bullets of justice.

Anyways, I know this is ranty(ish), but I'll whip the plan into shape when I have more time and it's not sleepytime, and answer questions in the meantime.

Always have to have path from nexus to door control. Cant close that door

[zoraster]

Maruchan, you have been replaced.

[Maruchan]

I didn't see that till after I posted that sorry. Feel free to delete it

[zorastermod]

Day 5, Round 1

Moves:

hitogoroshi to Secluded Villa

BLUE

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GREEN

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RED

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PURPLE

CHITS ACCEPTED.

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22:00 EDT

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[Regfan]

I just re-looked into the positions prior to the NK and Llarmable can you explain to me how Andrius and Nautilius are in a 1 v 1 exactly again because from how it looks it's also entirely possible for Maruchan to have sent in the kill.

Also, Andrius, can you fully claim again including every specific part of your role description and your actions with it please.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

<--- didn't kill anyone

[Nautilius]

So you protected Regfan instead of the claimed mason who died???
I find that error kind of hard to believe from Nauttown.
I'll reread later though.

When you're moving into college, you don't really look too closely into mafia.
Do you think that Nautscum would perceive some advantage in claiming to protect Regfan over the claimed mason?

[Nautilius]

RE: Door control problem: Then we don't close that door, but the party room doors still close. The plan will still work.

[Nautilius]

So you protected Regfan instead of the claimed mason who died???
I find that error kind of hard to believe from Nauttown.
I'll reread later though.

Also, instead of rereading, you should read the big post I made. It might make rereading unnecessary.

[Llamarble]

Regfan, it's not 1v1. I was assuming it was a 1v1 because the person I assumed Naut would have protected died, which would mean either lying-Naut or scum getting to NS first. But that doesn't work anyway since protection has higher priority than killing.

Naut, considering the claimed mason died and claiming a protect on him would get you lynched, I think there's plenty of scummotive to claim targeting Regfan.
Also plenty of townmotive to have protected NSmason last night.
How do you not even check who is confirmed town before using your protect action?

Biggest thing I don't get is why scum didn't kill Hito though.
Maybe they thought we'd lynch him or something, but that's an extra lynch we get and a kill Naut would be unlikely to interfere with.

[Llamarble]

I'm going to reread Regfan Maru Andy and Nautilius tonight.
Not having votes until then would be appreciated.

Oh also I'm the one who sent Hito to the SV.
I wanted him to reload and wanted to catch any attempt to QH in the Ragetorium.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I'm pretty much confirmed town, right? All the flipped mafia have powers + early uncalled for VT claim = town town town.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Plus, Maru is obvtown and probably terrible at scum, etc.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

About half-way through.

Nautilus' early username vote was weird.
#729-730 make me think Regfantown. (#731-732 = Maruobvtown too, by the bye)
The Klazam vigging is hilariously bad.