Flame Warriors U-Pick; Troll wins it for his team!

[Shadow Dancer]

Hmm... I don't know most of the players here... But "hi!" to those I do (most notably Amrun who's the only one I ever spend some notable time with in a game, nice to meet you again and you grew a seocnd head since last time we met )

Anyway:

vote dramonic

for never ever calling me back on Atomic mafia and running that game without me

[Shadow Dancer]

vote: scumhunter

@Sir Bastion: May I ask why your name is a clear bastardization of the amazing rock and steel type, Bastiodon?

May I ask you what the heck a "gaoth" is? Is it some kind of goth? Or a goat? Or what?

[Shadow Dancer]

OK, first impressions so far:
- Gaoth has the winds.
- Hop is silly and doesn't make much sense... But if his vote was so serious, why did you unvote immediatelly just to prod-vote Gaoth?
- Over is fencesitting hardcore... Producing posts this long with mostly useless quotes in them is unethical this early in the game! Tell me, Over, which use do

you

see in an early "Upick-choice" claim. And what exactly do you mean by "u-pick choice" the complete list that every one sent to Slaxx or just what roles we actually got?


And:

All

pokemons are crap... Please don't even try and talk to me about pokemons.

[Shadow Dancer]

Who are you? Are you a player? If yes, who are you? Is this related to some game mechanics? Or just some shenanigans on your own account?

[Shadow Dancer]

Hmm...

Yeah, let's test this out a bit:

unvote. vote Mystery

Must be either mod or god or something ...

Anyway, does "we don't need to know" mean that your real name does not appear on the player list or that you are a secondary account of some else who is also posting under his/her real account?

[Shadow Dancer]

Hmm... That does nothing... OK

vote Tragedy

Hey, CAT, I found the ideal avatr for you!

[Shadow Dancer]

Trolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll tiiiiiime.

I'd just like to take a moment to thank slaxx for giving me such an amazing role. It's a shame to waste such a role on a game with this terrible of a player base though. Seriously this game is like the retard room at a special ed convention.

vote: killerjester

because I wish I was a jester.

I see, you got the hang of the flavour.
Now, if you don't mind, tell us who your vastly superior mind has identified as the scumteam... Just so we can make this quick and get you out of special ed before it drives you insane.

[Shadow Dancer]

Newbies are so cute when they come along all like "special ed convention" and "correct respose to a waggon", *LOL* Almost as if they'd have any clue... Or amybe the "special ed convention" comment was a rare case of self-irony (sorry, that hobbit game made me real

catty

for today...) But most of all it tells me that you don't know diddly-squat about

me

... When I seem to be all self righteous than it's always for the rather trivial reason that I can afford it it, becuase, trivially I

am

right. So don't get the wrong idea that me calling out people for their blatant mindlessness is indicative of my alignment or anything but my desire to make them use their brains.

Or if you want a more general lection: Never ever take things for granted before you have seen the flip.

That being said: Why are you worried about joining the primate waggon being "hypocritical"?

@CAT: Wrong question. Right question is: Why didn't

you

have any desire to find out what a "mystery" vote does?

[Shadow Dancer]

@ShadowDancer, your intuition that my insulting the room was a response to 2 RVS votes on me is incorrect. I could give a flying fuck about votes on me at this point because well, they are RVS votes. Also, something I've noticed is that terrible players like yourself tend to use the patronizing "look at what a newbie is doing" tone to build up your own perceived notion of self-worth. Does it make you feel like you are a better player to call someone a newbie? It shouldn't. But for you it does. It's a sad state of affairs. I hope you don't get too mad at me calling out on your flaws. Such is life.

Where did I suggest that you were flaming because of RVS votes? But it is interesting that you

perceive

it like that.

Aren't you a newbie? Your join date strongly suggests you are. But you can be at ease, I don't have nearly enough of an ego to need to patronize any one to cherish it. I know what I ma capable of and what not. But it doesn't go without a certain irony that you find flaws in others that oh so much seem to plague yourself...

Hey, this is fun

But I should probably point out that "flame wars" is just the theme and not the destination of this game. So you better do something in terms of scum hunting, will you?

[Shadow Dancer]

@Bastion: So you...
...either do not vote for who you think is scum because you are affraid that people migh call

you

out for similar reasons?
...or you consider joining a waggon that you do not consider scum after all because you haven't spotted any behaviour that you would consider even coming from scum?

O_o

Please clear this up for me, it doesn't make the least of sense.

[Shadow Dancer]

Hmm... That does nothing... OK

vote Tragedy

Hey, CAT, I found the ideal avatr for you!

This vote is clearly not Amusing.
And I see you're not really bothering with the votes on you.

But I see you are bothering with those on you. So what's your point?

[Shadow Dancer]

@Bastion #73:This suggests that you considered Primate's actions town and were defending him - the post did not read like a defense at all.
But if this is so, what do you think about Jester and Cookie then?

[Shadow Dancer]

@Hop #74: It's not avoiding the question at all. And what makes you think that a sample size of just one vote would have guaranteed you to find out what mystery account is all about?!
Besides the trivial "vote does not count" result several things could have happened, p.e.
- lose vote/vote goes to mystery account
- vote goes to "mystery"'s real account
- vote is randomized
- anything else that I cannot spontaneously think of...
Also you unvoted before there was even any mod-feedback on the issue.

[Shadow Dancer]

Let's get this out of the way right now. If you have a post restriction, claim it.
We have to give a protip in our first post every Day.
So I think SD is scum because of how he's dancing around questions, correct me if I'm wrong.
walls walls walls
Come join the Tragedy wagon!

"SD is scum!"
"Join the Tragedy waggon!"
?!?!???

[Shadow Dancer]

[...]and also a big part of my post was fishing for a response from shadow dancer when I tried to cheekily point out he had played with scumhunter before, I felt that this bit was also fishing for a response from shadow dancer[...]

I never played with scumhunter before, what makes you think I have?!

[Shadow Dancer]

Uh? Who's scumhunter then?

[Shadow Dancer]

Tragedy looks reasonably town now... But CAT's contribution leave much to wish for at the moment.

unvote. vote CAT

[Shadow Dancer]

It was never intended as a good example, just something to see how SD would react (over reaction with a a bit of OMGUS would have kept me on)

What? Why should I OMGUS you over Starcraft mafia?

[Shadow Dancer]

Please stop the quote walls, every one...

[Shadow Dancer]

@CAT: As answer to your question - in short: Gut. And of course there's more than one scum, but I only got this one vote. And while tragedy's latest post acually reads like a bit of content your ISO reads like derp and OMGUS so far.

[Shadow Dancer]

Well.. Not the post that is

now

her latest that is...

And I slowly start wondering what makes you so hypersensible about feeling ignored...

Anyway, you hint that Amrun is MIA and I wonder why that is because she is pretty active in Xalxe'S Pick your Poison. I suggest you convinve her to share her thoughts about this game, too.

People that also need to show up and provide something:
-ben
-dram
-

robo

-scumhunter

That's still a lot of lurkers.

[Shadow Dancer]

Sure, will do. Might teach you to distinguish the important from the utterly insignificant...

Robo is obviously bolded because he's the worst lurker. This is exactly the kind of question that I am normally just ignoring because it should be blatantly obvious to every one reading along.

[Shadow Dancer]

So what's the point of the account? To publish PR results without outing yourself?

So what's the point

of your role fishing[/b].

Let this put straight, you really want to know the abouts of mystery, but if some one places a vote on it to inquire on the issue you see it as scummy?

[Shadow Dancer]

pr is post restriction?

Depends on context I guess, could also be "Power Role".

[Shadow Dancer]

Wait, are you serious SD? You did that AFTER someone else had already done it. Your additional vote was, essentially, a giant useless waste.

MA: We could always just ignore you.

Yeah,

GIGANTIC USELESS

*LOL*

[Shadow Dancer]

@Tragedy #193

: I am not going to seriously discuss which lurker is the worst and whether any one of them is really worse in this respect or tht than all the others. That'd be beside the point. Those people need to contribute now. All of them.

[Shadow Dancer]

SD you forgot GW, kj, and Primate on your lurkerlist.

Yes Tragedy, keep spouting cases that apply to you as well, gooooooood

I did not include people who's contributio boils down one more or less extensive post. That may change hough.

[Shadow Dancer]

Just to clarify, is your read on SD because he's scumhunting well, or just because he's scumhunting?
I'll address the rest of your post after you answer.

Are you about to make a point based on the fact that I haven't nailed down multiple scum yet based on 9 pages of game with still multiple lurkers on it?
Are you really so much wiser that you could make such a point? Or is this just hypocrisy on your part?

[Shadow Dancer]

@Cookie: You did not even ask me any questions. Unless you consider "SD is scum" a question and want me to answer to it. The answer is pretty obvious and should not surprise you: It's "no!"

[Shadow Dancer]

@every one: Please stop any further discussion about George Bush now. It is very obviously a

breadcrumb

, hence we're gonna get back to it soon enough but right now insisting to get to the bottom of it is just plain role fishing.

[Shadow Dancer]

The mafia.
Ghostwriter gives off some major scum vibes for that.

You've got to be shitting me. Scum vibes? For calling him arrogant? He was being arrogant in an annoying way. It's one of us hiding behind a fake account and hinting at cool shit, but not actually doing much in the way of helping. They want to help? They can do that in the thread the normal way. If there's a reason they need to use that account, and they are town, then fine. Honestly, this whole "he is town" thin is most likely derived from the fact that no one can actually vote him.

If no one can vote it, what's the point in eve speculating about it's alignment?

[Shadow Dancer]

No idea what you're talking about, but will do. Want some salt to it?

[Shadow Dancer]

That's not the reason. It's just my usual posting style. Also I doubt that the battery runs solely on post count... It's probably closer to word or line count, most likely taking into account how many players are active. Hence it's even more important that the lurkers finally post.

[Shadow Dancer]

Wow, Amrun

is

pissed.
Get well soon!

@Dup: You can hardly take campaign mafia as an example for my "usual" playstyle.
However, your playstyle in this game reminds me a lot of that game. It's all regfan posting and some "gorilla/shift disagrees" comments... What I basically want to see now are some posts that come form gorilla himself. Same as with CAT: Double read on Hydra is better than read on only one head.

[Shadow Dancer]

Hi Far,

RPG mafia is about to start, probably not much activity from me here today and possibly tomorrow. I'll try a major reread after that, Hopefully some of the lurkers, semi-lurkers and missing hydra-heads have shown up by then.

[Shadow Dancer]

I'd even agree with this case... If only some sapects of it were not that bad...

REASON ONE:
Duplicity is not scumhunting. He is sitting there and saying "these ppl r b town no tuchin dem!!!". There is no protown motivation for this kind of behavior. His closest semblance to scumhunting is saying "these ppl r not b untuchable ima sit onna fence YEEHA".

And your lazy sitting around and just calling some one "scum" is scum-hunting then. It's logical, at least it calls out "scum". Whereas collecting solid town reads is of course absolutely useless for town and should never be what good townies waste their time with. Really!

REASON TWO:
His townread on SD is utter bullshit. He says it's because of SD's scumhunting. SD is voting us, and we're one of Dup's untuchables. Plus, SD doesn't even have a good reason to be on us. Fakeread is fake.

Why does this read as pure OMGUS again?

REASON THREE:
He's trying so hard to derail the SD wagon. He tried so hard to get us off Tragedy. But he just shrugs his shoulders at the votes on us. Inconsistency.

OK. Given that Dup also called CAT "town" just recently this

is

an issue.

REASON FOUR:
He was probably THE most vocal person clamoring for Amrun. Why? Why do you want more activity from an already active slot instead of from lurkers? Why don't you get gorilla to post, because I'm pretty sure he hasn't posted ONCE yet.

Because you are a Hydra and not just SleepyDeepyCrewSolo. It's that simple. Silent hydra heads are bad!

REASON FIVE:
Let's get this part out of the way first- he put words in SD's mouth. 
But it gets worse. He claims he knows how the battery operates, and that it's by postcount. He uses SD's multipost as an excuse to derail that wagon. But not the votes on us, even though we also multipost. More inconsistency. 
And that's not all. Order now and we'll double the inconsistency! So Mister Duplicity, the battery operates on postcount you say? This needs it's own mini-list:
1. Why not share this earlier?
2. How do you know this?
3. If you're so worried about getting deadlined, why don't you just spam it up?
4. If multiposting is protown, how come you don't do it?

I have my thoughts about thes points one but need dup's answer first...

[Shadow Dancer]

Actually

unvote. vote scumhunter

for now.., Lurker hiding behind a post restriction... BAD!

[Shadow Dancer]

Sir Bastion, I've no idea how you expect us to continue to push a case on you when you've been lurking for the last 3 pages, but okay.[...]

Hmmm.... How about "disappears under pressure"?

[Shadow Dancer]

Shadow Dancer (4): Oversoul, GhostWriter, Ethereal Cookie

It should be "Shadow Dancer (2): GhostWriter, Ethereal Cookie"
Over unvoted in #224.

[Shadow Dancer]

Forgot to bold that...

Shadow Dancer (4): Oversoul, GhostWriter, Ethereal Cookie

It should be "Shadow Dancer (2): GhostWriter, Ethereal Cookie"
Over unvoted in #224.

[Shadow Dancer]

?!?!? Explain that, dram.

Time for a reread. Expect it this weekend.

[Shadow Dancer]

Hui, 14 pages... I really need to work on this now.

[Shadow Dancer]

Other stuff turned up... SO nothing new from me today... Sorry.

[Shadow Dancer]

Seriously, when I see those walls on this page I wanna vomit over my keyboard. What is wrong with you guys?

Definitely not catching up today

[Shadow Dancer]

*headpalm*
Can you actually imagine that there are people out there who at some days might just not have the time to invest hours into mafia?

That I am passive (

not

active lurking, you should probably ask some one with some experience to define tha term for you) in all of my games should tell you that it very likely has nothing at all to do with my alignment but has in fact to do with my current schedule that just does not allow me to put the work into this game today that would be required to make a meaningful post at this state of the game. It's pretty senseless for me to give my opinion on anything if I haven't even caught up yet. You should easily be able to agree on that.

And you definitely cannot complain about a lack of contribution on my part so far. So your complaining is pretty pointless. I'd suggest you better go after some

real

lurkers if there still are any, eh?

[Shadow Dancer]

OK... Let's see this game is remarkably... I'd rather say depressingly fruitless to read...

@Bastion: People already pointed this out, but you dd not change it anyway - if you can't resist the urge to produce quote walls, at least name tag your quotes... I mean... Why? Normally the name tags are already there, with link to the post and all, you know, why

remove

them?

@Dram:

WHAT THE HECK IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?!

Would join that waggon. If anything it wouldn't be any loss at all...

Over seems a bit to avoid conflict. Could be scum trying to lie low... But really only one of many many players that are right now possible scum...

@CAT: Is there any reason why you are repeatedly calling Goath "Goat", even after he calls you out on it? Seems like uneccessary taunting.

cookie looks remarkably bad in ISO... Reads almost like trolling, but I doubt it is a post restriction... Also note the discrepancy between these two quotes:

Well of course I didn't give much of a response to your question, given it was a terrible question. It served absolutely no purpose, so I just answered it truthfully. [...]

[...] SD still ignores answering things directed to him from me. [...]

So if he doesn't answer every dinky question it's of course appropriate, but if some one else does it it's clearly a scum tell... And that's about the only concrete reason he ever gives for his vote on me that he has ever specified...

[Shadow Dancer]

unvote. vote cookie

[Shadow Dancer]

I call him Goat because that's easier. Is there a problem?

Do you actually enjoy offending people?

[Shadow Dancer]

I call him Goat because that's easier. Is there a problem?

Do you actually enjoy offending people?

Er... That quote was clearly not a

blunt answer

but a justification for

no answer at all

...
And it's not that Cookie had done much else that could be called "productive". His next vote is on Dram... Not too much wrong with that per se, but it's just an easy waggon hop.

[Shadow Dancer]

I read him as townie because even with the sarcasm, he still comes off as though he is scumhunting. Also, its not the first time I have seen a townie play like this, *coughchesskidcough* and in my mind scum don't just attack people, sarcastically or otherwise, since they try to not rock the boat.

A WILD RATTATA APPEARS! HYPER BEAM THAT SON OF A BITCH!!!!

Yeah...

Chesskid

... That's an exception, not the norm... Unless Cookie has consistently the same kind of meta. Has anybody played with him brfore? Has he?

[Shadow Dancer]

How is it similar? Cookie is kind of active lurking with some badly justified aggon hops i between whereas Dramonic is pretty much a non-entity in this game. The only thing they have in common is that they're good lynches right now.

[Shadow Dancer]

So your only defense against being a good lynch right now is... Being a good lynch right now (but that other guy... !!!!)
OK. Deal!
Let's get through with this.

[Shadow Dancer]

And where are all the people?!

[Shadow Dancer]

*Meeeeaow?!?!*