Flame Warriors U-Pick; Troll wins it for his team!

[Gaoth]

vote: scumhunter

@Sir Bastion: May I ask why your name is a clear bastardization of the amazing rock and steel type, Bastiodon?

[Gaoth]

...
Gaoth, bastion is an actual word <_<

Obviously a word which came from the sheer defensive wall that is Bastiodon!

vote: scumhunter

@Sir Bastion: May I ask why your name is a clear bastardization of the amazing rock and steel type, Bastiodon?

Unvote, Vote: Gaoth

That's not an amazing rock/steel type pokemon! And what kind of a bastard

are

you!?

What are you talking about!? The fossils from gen IV are quite clearly the best since gen I, if not better, barring archeops in gen V, and should be treated with respect! Bastiodon's defenses cannot be rivaled, and should be respected!!!

vote: scumhunter

@Sir Bastion: May I ask why your name is a clear bastardization of the amazing rock and steel type, Bastiodon?

May I ask you what the heck a "gaoth" is? Is it some kind of goth? Or a goat? Or what?

Gaoth comes from the Scotch Gaelic word for "high wind," so imagine my answer to this question is my Pideot hitting you with Hurricane. That's what a Gaoth is. OHKO.

[Gaoth]

EBWOP: Pidgeot! I'm such an idiot! Please forgive me, my beloved Pidgeot!!!

[Gaoth]

tbh, i've seen so many people come in and talk about how many/which people they know during RVS that i was starting to think it was just a part of it. I personally don't think its scummy here. your reason for voting him is largely based on the way that you read into what he said.

I hope i satisfactorily responded to your unnecessary goading, hoppipster.

[Gaoth]

Just about to head out to a poker tournament but should be back later today. Setup wise I'm leaning towards this likely being a 4 scum and one third party setup with heavy amounts of power roles. Reasoning behind why can be explained if needed but most of it is Slaxx-hosting-meta-related. Right now I have a few weak town reads but no real scum reads and I want to have a discussion with Gorilla before I consider outting those. I think I know who Mystery Head is and believe they're town so the voting on them should stop, similarly the Shadow Dancer case is incredibly weak and although I love the initiative of trying to push out of RVS piling votes on him isn't the right way of doing it.

The U-Pick claiming is sub-optimal, the choices that people made are not related to their alignment at all since they were picked previously meaning reasoning behind the choices or the choices themselves will garner us no real information. Sure it may lock scum into a selection of four potential roles but at the same time as seen in Any Band mafia will just be claiming their own abilities as town abilities and thus discussion on whether we should claim now needs to cease.

Also can the quote walls stop pretty please.

Seriously here,

FoS Dramonic

Also, if anyone would like some brownie points, talk about how ever since Gen III, especially Gen V, the new pokemon have been very derivative of old ones, like Golem and Gigalith.

[Gaoth]

Let's see what I missed while I was asleep. No to the suggestion to claim Upick choices. This Shadow wagon is pretty messy and I get the feeling there make be scum on it unless he's scum himself.

I doubt it's Hoppster because any real scum would've stuck around to see if the wagon takes off after laying down the first serious vote of the game. I also doubt it's Oversoul, because he seemed to go through Shadow's post to pick them apart and give a solid opinion. That leaves Primate and Bastion, both players didn't really find anything majorly scummy about Shadow, but voted him anyway off of partial leads. I think it's likely one of these two players is scum.

Out of those two, I feel Primate was trying to force something scummy-looking out of Shadow's #21.

VOTE: Primate

Hello, townie Killerjester. But let me also ask this, given the above reasoning and my desire to not misrepresent it.

Is it possible bastion is scum too, forming some kind of bastiodon-primape scum team rocket?

Do you think bastion and primate could both be scum, or just primate?

Oh, and Oversoul, thanks for this. Nice to know someone out there doesn't share the intelligence level of Misty's Psyduck:

And no. Pokemon is the shit. You have no childhood if you think otherwise.

[Gaoth]

I could join the Primate wagon but that'll be a tad hypocritical so I'd like to ask Gaoth why he FOS Dramonic but quoted duplicity? I am having trouble seeing how the two are linked looking at them in ISO?

Oh, you gotta be fucking kidding me. I feel like a Slowpoke now. I meant to FoS Duplicity, Dramonic has nothing to do with it.

I never considered joining his wagon, but I had unfortunate timing posting when a wagon had just formed on primate and that my name popped up on that wagon, most notable by Gaoth coupled with the unfortunate scenario that while I have people rubbing me in uncomfortable manners (again Gaoth) nobody stands out as an productive alternative vote. Robocopter and scumhunter are still somewhat RVS with their votes and I havnt given much time to the tragedy wagon yet.

I was asking for clarification of Killerjester's post, not tying you and primate together. In fact, it was killerjester who insinuated that you might be scummy in the least bit. In my asking for clarification of that post is how/when you got tied to the primate wagon, but more tied to primate than his wagon. also, you mentioned joining the primate wagon in the post quoted here first.

Exactly where am i rubbing you in uncomfortable manners?

[Gaoth]

@ Bastion: I find it extremely ironic that in asking killerjester to clarify if he thought you and primate were a scum together or just primate was scum i somehow made the assertion that you guys are a scumteam. it was not what i was saying. i was trying to make sure i understood what he was asking, and somehow exactly what i needed clarified has only muddied up your waters.

@Duplicity: your first post read like scumreg. I wanted more posts before i laid a vote down. that is all.

Nidorino.

[Gaoth]

My observation is that Catfish voted without giving a reason (in his vote post), and then shadow hopped on without even trying to justify his hop on. I would accuse them of continuing RVS, but they have both made comments about being out of RVS. Catfish is voting for Tragedy for fluff and such (am i reading this right?), and Shadow has not offered a reason?

So, Cat is voting a weak scum tell, and Shadow is sheeping.
Cat is voting a scum tell, makes me think he's not scum at this point.
Don't think Shadow is scum. If he was, i gotta believe he would have voted a larger wagon.

Also, not sure if Shadow calling SH a newb is flavor or serious....
Furthermore, since i saw Shadow's proposed avi for Catfish several,

several

times, i propse this instead:



pedit:@Duplicity: Yeah, looks like I was right, wasn't I? I'm gonna be honest. I underestimated you, and (nearly) paid the price. I'm not gonna call you out on my meta read, since I did that last game and allowed scum to play me into their hands.

[Gaoth]

@Duplicity: Yeah, looks like I was right, wasn't I? I'm gonna be honest. I underestimated you, and (nearly) paid the price

. I'm not gonna call you out on my meta read

, since I did that last game and allowed scum to play me into their hands.

@Duplicity:

Your first post read like scumreg.

I wanted more posts before i laid a vote down. that is all.

I understand you may be paranoid of me after our last game but can you please explain the bolded along with what about my first post you found similar to regscum.

To be fair, your right. There is an amount of paranoia in this. Another reason why Fosed you rather than voted.

And I'm gonna spell it out again. I'm extremely reluctant to say something like, for example, "'Nico is lurking more, this must be townlurkernico' so that nico can lurk harder to gain even more town cred."

Essentially, its posting style. In my experience and my opinion, townreg is very elegant and outspoken (paragraph breaks, neat reads lists, whathaveyou), where as scumreg tends to drop blocks of text with no semblance of order, and is much more diplomatic. Your first post, and second, fall into the the latter category.

[Gaoth]

EBWOP: SNORLAX!!!!!!!

[Gaoth]

^^ I would like some CATFISH explanation for post 92 as well.

[Gaoth]

EBWOP: Squirtle.

[Gaoth]

Okay, so, I pulled an all nighter, and can barely see straight, much less sort through this thread. I will be back tomorrow, once I have some sleep in me. until then,

unvote: scumhunter

vote: CATFISH

All this nonsense about George is just that, nonsense, and since your post restriction is apparently a one and done per day kinda thing, i assume the sarcasm concerning how many scum reads you have was also nonsense.

Now, if you will excuse me. GENGAR! USE HYPNOSIS!

[Gaoth]

Oh, you gotta be fucking kidding me. I feel like a Slowpoke now. I meant to FoS Duplicity, Dramonic has nothing to do with it.

> Dram doesn't have to do with it
> Possible defending for scumbuddy
> Trying to get scumbuddy off the blame
= SCUM?

No, I meant to FoS Duplicity because I'm a paranoid freak about Regfan's posting style. If you go back to the post the quoted post refers to, you will see that I quoted Duplicity and then without any explanation FoSed dramonic. It was a mistake on my part, something bastion has already called me on. Nice misrep though. And the fact that you didn't outright accuse ME of being scum, but rather "whodunnit?" is scummy in and of itself.

And is there a reason I had to claim this quote as my own?

Also, does anyone else think that Simisage was the coolest of the monkey trio in Gen V?

[Gaoth]

Oh, the question was why I suspect her for the GB mentions? I thought CF was asking whether I was bad or scum. TBH, its because its a stupid piece of fluff that catfish won't let go, and it's getting really annoying (much like my Pokemon references are), and makes me think that its being done simply to fake hunt and go after a player.

GET YOURSELF A FUCKING TORTERRA.

[Gaoth]

36 - George mention. Why?
39 - Explain why a player looks scummy and tell him to fix it
46 - Tell another player not to do the above (as well as some BS about getting your name right, something I believe a fair shot at complaining about.)
64 - Mention, albeit a quote, of George, but you are still asking for it
92 - Want Post Resriction claim but said no to flavor claim in earlier post. the two are probably related. Why no to one but not the other?
130 - Sarcasm is unwarranted and undesired
138 - George mention. Why does it matter?
144 - A bullshit question, and you know it, directed at me, and the beginning of your OMGUS.

You're paying way too much attention to Mystery when it has become obvious its not gonna do any good.

Oh, and CATFISH, I will no longer be responding to name other than Gaoth, so i appreciate 204.

[Gaoth]

EBWOP: Bulbasaur

[Gaoth]

/proddodge. Will read through and get some content tomorrow night. out of town.

[Gaoth]

sorry everybody. got back later than expected and was met by more work than i thought. will catch up tomorrow.

[Gaoth]

Now playing catch up. Much like stupid wobbuffets need to do. slow ass mo fos.

[Gaoth]

CATFISHpost 278
I know it was a while ago, but would you mind explaining?

Oversoul post 284
If he was, what town motivation is there for pointing it out? Do not like.

Farside post 285
I have played three games consecutively with regfan, one in which we were mason's together. The last game was a scum regfan after two town regfan games. at the begging of scumreg game, I had a town read on reg, but this was based off his leadership as I saw it. Post game revealed that he had me as a puppet from the word go. Upon further review, I have concluded that his POSTING STYLE tends toward scumreg this game rather than town reg. For an example of what I mean, compare

Townreg posting to Scumreg posting in my experience with regfan. He tends to be very direct as town but browbeats with long winded explanation as scum IN MY EXPERIENCE, which is where my read/paranoia come from.

Scumhunterpost 289
I have to agree with you here. Benmage is textbook fence sitting and its disgustingly scummy.


Farsidepost 309 I lol'd

Reads (in no particular order inclusively)
Town: Ethereal Cookie, scumhunter, GhostWriter, Shadow Dancer, Hoppster, Sir Bastion
Null: Robocopter87, Dramonic, Primate, Killerjester, Tragedy
Scum: Duplicity, Benmage, Oversoul, CATFISH

Sticking with CATFISH for now.

Oh, and the hate directed at Scumhunter is laughable. He may be a troll, but he's an experienced troll.

P.S. I recently caught both a Lugia and Kyogre in HeartGold Version with Dive Balls, and then named them after Greek ocean deities (Aegaeon and Oceanus respectively). SO. FREAKING. COOL!

[Gaoth]

EBWOP: Exchange Farside22 for Killerjester on the reads list. Also, Fucking Magnezones, how do they work?

[Gaoth]

Sorry. In fairness, I should have gone back to the original post. But here it is! Bolded are my summarizations.

Ive read a couple more pages... still trying to catch-up. Off the top of my head....

Still don't like Hopp...but waiting for a response for more. Liking SirBast less and less the more I read of him. I think Oversoul irked me earlier. Those 3 are my top scumreads right now I suppose.

You use the word "like" quite a bit when commenting on plays....as well as irk. These are extremely soft ways of calling something scummy without saying, "you are scum." You either don't find these players scummy, or you just want us to think you do.

EC seems like our VI.

Why not call him town then?

Cat uncertain...

Seriously...

Duplicity.. back n forth there. I want to say town.

"back n forth" So, like, over the fence? You want to call him town, but you don't....

Primate reads the most vet. I'll be relooking here when I get caught up.

Okay, so? Whats the read? I don't think you have given one yet.

Thats why you are fencesitting in this post. Furthermore, direct your attention to Benmage 342. Where exactly have you "Done this"?

In other news, I saw this post on Reddit that had all the Eeveelutions next to pictures of celebrity females. How cool would it be to name a bunch of Eeveelutions after these people?! For example, a Glaceon named after Ramona from Scott Pilgrim (cause of the blue hair style)!!

[Gaoth]

Its probably whoever gets there first, that was the mechanic in Post-Apocalyptic Mafia (aka the previous Slaxx mod). Gonna reread both dram and EC. You know what rocks? Absol.

[Gaoth]

Read the Dram ISO and was like, lol, is that it? While I see nothing super scummy in the 11 post iso, it can be said that he is making no attempts at defending himself whatsoever. I mean, he's gotta know he's gonna get lynched. Why not offer some defense?

EC's ISO i found to be incredibly townie. Make those votes go away.

From one Ace Trainer to what I assume to be a group of Youngsters, let me say this. Electric type pokemon are the best. Case is point, Ampharos.

[Gaoth]

I read him as townie because even with the sarcasm, he still comes off as though he is scumhunting. Also, its not the first time I have seen a townie play like this, *coughchesskidcough* and in my mind scum don't just attack people, sarcastically or otherwise, since they try to not rock the boat.

A WILD RATTATA APPEARS! HYPER BEAM THAT SON OF A BITCH!!!!

[Gaoth]

I'm voting CATFISH because I honestly believe "them" to be better lynch. Lurking doesn't always mean scum, just like snarkiness doesn't always mean town.

[Gaoth]

Hey gang! just checking in to let you know its midterms week and I'm Swamp(ert)ed...it will tomorrow evening at the earliest before I can catch up.

[Gaoth]

Does anyone have scum meta on primate?

[Gaoth]

Sorry, I have been incredibly busy. After catching up, I've decided a couple things.

CATFISH is likely town. The case on dramonic was too big and mildly unwarranted; can't see scum pushing a townie that hard.
Duplicity is most likely town. This could change if more PRs out, but so far I think their weakish power is townsided with respect to balance.
The graphics on Pokemon LeafGreen seem very primitive compared to Pokemon White.
Primate and Dramonic could both be scum, but of the two, I find Dramonic to be scummier.

Vote: Dramonic

My vote will rest here unless someone can convince me as to why Primate is a better lynch, cause I'm not seeing it.

[Gaoth]

Slaxx used Prod!
It's super effective!
Gaoth used Proddodge!
It wasn't very effective....

[Gaoth]

In regards to Duplicity's 766, I say:


that said,

Unvote Dramonic

Vote Primate

and here's this

Town:

Sir Bastion, scumhunter, CATFISH, Duplicity

Nulltown:

Quilford, Farside22

Null:

Dramonic (could really go either way, but not comfortable with it this lynch today anymore)

Nullscum:

Ghostwriter

Scum:

Oversoul, Primate

[Gaoth]

@Mod I'm voting Primate not Dramonic. What's that preview button for?

[Gaoth]

Unvote

Draminic not hammering has me conflicted. On one hand, it could be scum looking for town cred by not hammering. On the other hand, it could be scummy town avoiding a chance to look scummier.

Any thoughts on this?

[Gaoth]

I'm gonna trust SirB's cop report on Quilford.

Looks like Dramonic's refusal to hammer the townie could be scum motivated (and I think was indeed).

I don't think we should completely clear Duplicity. Just because he's a neighborizer doesn't mean he's town.

You can only catch 127 of the original 151 pokemon in LeafGreen Version PreNational Dex. seems like a small-ish number.

[Gaoth]

Hey, you all need to quit being such fucking Bidoofs if you honestly think I'm scum. Seriously, look somewhere else.

News: I'm Duplicity's neighbor. Personally, I think this was his attempt to manipulate me just as he did during PA mafia, and to get interactions out of thread that he can try and incriminate me with.

I'm a Vanilla Townie (and btw, Duplicity told me he could only neighborize vanilla players [this being the "weak" part of his PR], so you have to believe the Vanilla part of this, at the very least). My flavor is Fanboy with a post restriction of referencing pokemon in at worst every other post. I don't think Slaxx would give scum a PR which draws so much attention. This is the same reason why I believe SH's Miller claim. Has this been my most townie play? No. But it is also my first time playing VT. (Past game roles, in order: Goon, Doc, Mason, Mason)

So without further ado,

Vote: Duplicity

This isn't changing.

[Gaoth]

Look, I'm not the kind of guy to pull the "lynch me and you'll be sorry" Fearow mongering, but I'm Town. Get the fuck over it Duplicity. Congrats, another of your reads gone awry this game.

I wasn't aware mass claim had started.

[Gaoth]

@Scumhunter - He knows he can manipulate me, he did it last game

@Duplicity - I think it would be easy for you to fake reads on Townies and then be like "Jeez, my reads are terrible this game."

Too upset to make a poke-pun. Just know that my anger burns with the heat of a thousand Pontyas.

[Gaoth]

@Scumhunter - He knows he can manipulate me, he did it last game

Don't avoid the question. Which post and where in the QT did I "Manipulate you"?

The act of Neighorizing me was the maipulation in and of itself, quite personally. That act, combined with benmage's rolecop report made me make a snap judgement about your alignment in this game. Maybe I allowed myself to be manipulated, after all the suspicion i stated day 1 i was looking for an excuse to call you town.

i want to be the very besT,
like no one ever was.
to catcH them is my real test,
to traIn them is my cauSe.
I will travel acroSs the land,
searChing far and wide.
each pokemon to undeRstand
the powEr that's inside
(gotta catch 'em All)
it's you and Me
i know it'S my destIny
pokeMon!
you're my besT friend
In a wOrld we must defend
pokemon
(gotta catch 'em all)
a heart so true
our courage Will pull us through
you teach me and I'll teach you
pokemoN
(gotta catch 'em all)
yeah
eveRy challenge along the way
with courage I will face
i will battle everyday
to claim my riGhtful place
come with me the time is right
tHeres no better team
arm and arm well win the fight
iTs always been our dream
pokemon
(gotta catch 'em all)
its you and me
i know its my destiny
ookemon
oh, your my best friend
in a world we must defend
Pokemon?
a heart so true
our courage will pull us through
you teach me and ill teach you
pokemon
(gotta catach 'em all)
(gotta catach 'em all)
(gotta catach 'em all)
(gotta catach 'em all)
yeah!
pokemon!

[Gaoth]

To try and have some fun, I suppose, you piece of toast coming out of what appears to be a Rotom toaster.

[Gaoth]

Dear Duplicity,

Please end your Dugrtio-like tunneling on me, you're acting like a Magnemite who won't quit using Lock-On when all I'm trying to do is find a Magnet.

Seriously, If you are a member of Scum Team Rocket, you can keep pushing on this Townie. If you are a simply a confused resident of Cerulean City, go for a swim at the gym to clear your head(s) and then find someone else to push on.

Sincerely,

Gaoth, Pokemon Master

[Gaoth]

@SH: I honestly think there a significant chance Duplicity is scum. Plain and simple.

However, I'm gonna propose this plan to Duplicity, who wants me strung up so bad.

Unvote: Duplicity

Vote: CATFISH

Unvote: CATFISH

Okay. I have now voted for CATFISH today. Look somewhere else. Let's lynch someone else! I'm staunchly in favor of a Duplicity lynch.

Regardless, If we don't lynch me, and the flip goes bad for us, then CATFISH has the option of viging me.

Wake up Mareeple! Duplicity is just as confirmed town as I am!

[Gaoth]

Vote: Duplicity

[Gaoth]

My new best guess is that SH and Duplicity are scum together, there is some sweet bussing going down because Duplicity is confident of their grasp on the town.

Other than that, I feel like staying in this game is a supreme disservice to the town, but I feel like I'm too invested to replace out. I apologize for my lack luster play this game, but school and mafia are hard to mix.

And if you need to ask why we should lynch Duplicity, I suggest you ask, Wynaut?

[Gaoth]

@Duplicity: Sorry, I thought I recalled you saying late game miller claim was scummy. Did that not happen? You're right, his neighborizing you in that game was a null tell, but i'm saying that given our past experience, especially last game, you neighborizing me is scummy, considering you have much more history, respect, and joy at playing with someone like Scumhunter. Why pick me? Because you didn't need an extra QT to talk to Scumhunter. You got me to reevaluate my scum read on Dramonic in favor of a scum read on Ghostwriter (They were both town!). I gave you my complete list of reads, and you basically told me they were shit. Is it possible Oversoul is scum? Yes. He's been (openly) sheeping you, and right now even though he suspects I'm town, he's willing to lynch me, someone he thinks is town. But I'm sold on you and Scumhunter.

@Scumhunter It was a huge coincidence that I check the game right after you had voted me. Admittedly, it looks bad, but it doesn't change the fact. I'm assuming the shitbag comment was part of your PR and will not take it personally. I think anyone can tell my play thus far has been a pile of Trubbish.

[Gaoth]

Hey, I'm not "lurking" I'm just acting like a Slaking! In all seriousness, bacon, narwhals, proddodges, home for thanksgiving, quite. I may be able to get to this until tomorrow afternoon.

[Gaoth]

I'm sorry Duplicity, I'm not sure what you want an answer to. Could you please restate it succinctly? Also, I would be happier with an Oversoul lynch than a farside lynch. just throwing my two cents in.

SH's miller claim has really Muk'd things up, innit?