Animal Rescue: petsPick (Game Over!)

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I'm here! Can we vote for "Roxi"?

[glowball]

VOTE: Roxi


I'm curious now.

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Damn.

Mmkay, I like a Quilford wagon since he's got so much, yet so little to say

VOTE: Quilford

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Also, this is petsPick!

Tell me about your actual pets, no details of course. Just sharing, I'll go first. I have a puppy she's about 1.5 years and I LOVE HER she is fluffy and adorable!

[glowball]

I just wanted to talk about my pet

[glowball]

Also, this is petsPick!

Tell me about your actual pets, no details of course. Just sharing, I'll go first. I have a puppy she's about 1.5 years and I LOVE HER she is fluffy and adorable!

This is a terrible idea. This equates you claiming a fluffy and adorable puppy. How is it possible that you do not realise this? And besides, this is fishing. Say that someone tells you that his dog is a German Shepherd who can find anything when he follows his nose. You will just assume that this person is likely a cop. Now I am forced to wonder which one is the explanation of your behaviour. (1) Reckless town - who just won the "VI of the game" trophy despite quil's efforts or (2) fishy scum.

I'll own the VI trophy. I honestly didn't think anything would come of it, I also didn't think calling my dog fluffy and adorable(common characteristics of dogs ^_^) would make you think anything other than null. I mean it's a shame not to talk about our pets when this is petsPick. I didn't expect details like your German Shepherd example, I expected things like mine. "Oh I've had my dog/cat/hamster/whatever for "this" long and they are black and fat". Cute stuff, nothing I would find particularly helpful or damaging to anyone.

I mean if someone is going to assume my role based off of "fluffy and adorable" then they would be giving me some competition for that trophy.

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You're really that gullible, Sotty? since when? Xvart explains it exactly as it is. I don't care about Quilford having a town read on you. The problem is that there was absolutely nothing there to declare a town read based upon. It is a scummy tactic because it's not a legitimate read (he claims they are not random after all!). It's one thing to call someone scummy early game over something minor as a way to get the ball rolling, and it's something entirely different to buddy someone by calling them town over nothing...which apparently worked on you.

While I can understand the premise of the lewarcher wagon, that certainly shot up fast. I at least suggest we don't throw anyone to L-1 quickly while Roxi is waiting in the wings. If scum control that animal, we need to watch out for quick hammers.

You really think scum would quick hammer this early and reveal their extra vote. They'd surely be gone the next day.

[glowball]

posting to say I exist but not reading this game til tomorrow

It's tomorrow, and you're the only one not voting and neither is "roxi" so I'm assuming the vote belongs to you?

IDK... care to comment on this?

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What's bothering me is that Lew's role claim doesn't seem to be even slightly beneficial to town.

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You're killing players based on whether the animal is a dog or a cat. I'd hope all of the scum weren't cats, that'd be a pretty silly set up.

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how so? I am half a vig, half a flavour cop.

You're killing players based on whether the animal is a dog or a cat. I'd hope all of the scum weren't cats, that'd be a pretty silly set up.

and? who said all scum are cats???

NO ONE! That is the problem

Didn't you say that if you investigate a player and they are a cat, they die? How is that helpful to town, unless cats are scum? It's not, you'll just be killing off townies that have cats.

[glowball]

it's beneficial to town if scum are cats

which we have no evidence to assume that they are

so yeah, I'm gonna go with the "then lynch me" option

Exactly.

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I don't believe he claimed vig. He claimed like "weakish" scumrolecop.

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lewarcher as some kind of "dog that hates cats SK" is starting to look more and more plausible. Get rid of all the cats in the game and achieve third party wincon.

I agree and I'm ready to lynch him.

What is he at right now?

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I don't TRY to be anti-town. That shit just comes naturally.

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and hammer it was. Whatev, guys. Ending the first day so quickly is stupid. Go town.

I don't buy this at all.

VOTE: Lewarcher

and NO that wasn't a hammer, Vi unvoted so save the fake hammer response.

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oh goodness am I missing something? WHERE did he claim VIG?

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Mmkay as "funny" as that is, it's not helpful but whatever Reck, be a dick.

NINJA'D

Spoiler: Lewachers Claim

I have re-read my ISO and I really don't understand the case on me.

Well, Vi: appear self-confident and everyone will think you know what you are doing, huh? This is the most unfounded and quickest wagon I have ever seen

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Fine. This is my full claim.

I am Mao-Tse-Tung, and I am a

town assassin cat

. Each night I can decide to visit a player. If that player has a cat, I will kill him. If that player has a dog, I will die. The flavour is connected with the real biography of my former cat Mao, who was killed by a dog.

In order to avoid a short day 1 and a stupid mislynch, I will accept to do as follows:

You unvote me, and tonight I will visit someone who will claim to have a dog (no full claim required, any dog will do). By doing that, I will be dead and flipped on the morning of day 2. You will quit wasting your time tunneling me, I will be dead anyway and today we can go on playing and discussing other cases. Despite Vi's tunneling, we might end up lynching someone who is actually scum. Also: I will get more time to analize the wagon on me and leave a legacy of reads.

I know it's weird, but it's the only strategy occurring to me.

Nothing in there says "vig" it just says he kills or gets killed. Aside from the kill factor nothing is even slightly "vigish". It's weak rolecop at best. I mean it's pretty obv that he's third party especially considering his claim says NOTHING about hamsters and rodents can be pets. WHAT THEN?!?!?!?!

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Ugh... I'm tired. Lewarcher is obvlying. Stop calling him a vig and then getting mad at me for not realizing what the hell is going on.

NINJA'D

OR AMRUN... he's lying and nothing happens.

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You would have to believe part of his claim. I don't believe it at all, it doesn't account for multiple pets or pets other than cats/dogs.

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You would have to believe part of his claim. I don't believe it at all, it doesn't account for multiple pets or pets other than cats/dogs.

Then that will sort itself out... It's not a claim that makes sense to lynch today. I will oppose it until the eventual end of the day.

Anti town is ANTI TOWN. I'd rather not run someone else up Day 1 and that person claim something that isn't "a claim that makes sense to lynch today". Lewarcher might be scum, he might be SK what is obv is that he isn't town and that's better than potentially lynching a townie to see what happens.

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WHY ISN'T LEW LYNCHED?!?!?!?!

Come on guys. Just lynch him and be happy!

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oh was that for real? Okay then... this sucks.

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Amrun, you seem different...

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Amrun, you seem different...

How so? I didn't let them lynch your arguably worse claim in Modern Family mafia, either. 'Cause it's dumb.

p-edit:

lol

That's true, but your attitude seems off.

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I hate it when I agree with a wagon but the reasoning/people on the wagon are flawed. JasonT is making no sense which is making it hard for me to get behind this wagon.

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I hate it when I agree with a wagon but the reasoning/people on the wagon are flawed. JasonT is making no sense which is making it hard for me to get behind this wagon.

What is not making sense to you?

What your motivation is for connecting me to Llam. You went out of your way to find a connection, you're forcing it. There are several players in this game that I haven't mentioned at all yet you use that as another reason to connect me to Llam. What if I said "Jason is awesome" 100x? Then WE have a connection too, right? GOODNESS.

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It just seems like you are trying to line up lynches by connecting me to Llam weakly. Scum defend Town. Town defend Scum mistakenly. Scum defend Scum. Town defend Town. The fact that you are pushing that one point so much is forcing me to take a second look at you.

[glowball]

He has been defending Glowball non stop
Glowball has not mentioned or even referenced him.

I had the two of them as scum day 1... I see this as a connection to further my read on them both as scum.

Exactly, JasonT you are looking for reasons to add to both of us being scum. It's confirmation bias.

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Nah, I'm not sure about lynching Llamarble. He's at L-3!!! That was quick, scum is on that.

VOTE: JasonT

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He has been defending Glowball non stop
Glowball has not mentioned or even referenced him.

I had the two of them as scum day 1... I see this as a connection to further my read on them both as scum.

Exactly, JasonT you are looking for reasons to add to both of us being scum. It's confirmation bias.

thats how you look for scum, you make connections between people.

Except you aren't looking anywhere else.. You already think we're both scum so when I write something you are waiting to find ANYTHING scummy about it- obv by the weak "connection" Llam and I have.

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I hate it when I agree with a wagon but the reasoning/people on the wagon are flawed. JasonT is making no sense which is making it hard for me to get behind this wagon.

Why do you agree with the wagon yet disagree with everyone else on the wagon? What is it about it that makes you

want

to support it?

Llamarble has been pretty scummy, but after re reading it could just be the hard pushes for him that make him seem that way. I need to really sit down and look at all of it, I just get on alert when the arguments to call someone scum involve me being scum as well when I know that's not true.

Except you aren't looking anywhere else.

. You already think we're both scum so when I write something you are waiting to find ANYTHING scummy about it- obv by the weak "connection" Llam and I have.

Oh really??

Yea, I am now quite happy there is a connection between Glowball/Llamarable. I had both as scum yesterday.

I still want to take a look at Ghostlin also today.

vote: Llamarable.

Don't agree with Sotty about tripod being a good vote, I have him as town.

Cogito is someone also I believe should be looked at today.

Saying it and doing it are two different things. Thanks, though...

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Llama is already so much better today. I like his VP pressure a lot.

Unvote

Exactly, JasonT you are looking for reasons to add to both of us being scum. It's confirmation bias.

Talk me thought what you mean when you say "confirmation bias".

He has it set in his mind that we are both scum therefore he's no longer truly scumhunting and rather scumTELL hunting to add to his case. Scumtells don't always make scum, we've all seen townies lynched for "scummy" play. He's got nothing showing scum motivation, at least from my end, he's just pushing us both as scum poorly.

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Glowball - tell me about things other than Jason please.

Well, I had dinner with my family last night it was pretty awesome. I mean what would you like me to tell you? This question is lame. Be specific, and tbh I am still sorting out my reads but I don't think to highly of you if that is what you are looking for.

[glowball]

So you want... reads? I have none worth sharing at this point. I'll let you know when I do.

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I HAD a reason for avoiding Sotty's queston- thanks for ruining that.

Also, thanks for proving my point yet again.

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And what point would that be.

And what would be this reason for avoiding questions?

My point is that you are in confirmation bias and it doesn't matter what my reason was, it won't satisfy you because you are convinced I'm scum so why waste my time?

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hahahahahaha, I avoided a Sotty question as well, good to know you're paying attention >_>

Anyway, JasonT there is no case to answer. You've fabricated a connection between Llam and myself that is your whole case.

[glowball]

glowball has a point that the VP wagon did spring up a little quickly. That doesn't necessarily mean something, but I'd still like to see more counterwagoning today than happened yesterday.

VOTE: Jason

Glow's point had nothing to do with the VP wagon, I was talking about the Llamarble wagon.

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I think I get what DDD is getting at and I can't say I disagree completely. When I let my mind wander I look into WIFOM, but never as the main reason for someone being scum. I also think it's a bit early, tbh.

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Mmkay so posting for activity, but I really don't understand this Ghostlin thing so I obviously need to focus and read more.

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Mmkay so posting for activity, but I really don't understand this Ghostlin thing so I obviously need to focus and read more.

OK, so you're active lurking right now. Can I ask why you're not as interested in the wagon you might be on Day 2 rather than Day 1?

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I don't like jason due to the hideous amount of confirmation bias that he attempted with glowball at the end of the day. I'm not thrilled with VP Baltar and glowball mailing their stuff in, and there was at least one day where I wasn't on site anywhere for any four of my games. I'm curious to know one thing from Xvart, who is really the only person that hasn't posted a oneliner most of today: do you think glowball and jason are scumbuddies together and why, considering his stance that she was scum with someone else?

What? Are you saying that I am LESS interested than I was last day phase? Also, what are you getting at? It seems like you wish to cast suspicion in my direction while your wagon builds, you want to place a vote place a vote. I don't have time for people who wish to feel around... Step forward if you have something to say about me.

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What? Are you saying that I am LESS interested than I was last day phase? Also, what are you getting at? It seems like you wish to cast suspicion in my direction while your wagon builds, you want to place a vote place a vote. I don't have time for people who wish to feel around... Step forward if you have something to say about me.

OK. You posted a proddodge. I appreciate you wanting to review my case, but you still posted a proddodge while I'm being accused of generally flaking in this game. I'm calling you out for posting a proddodge when I don't remember you doing this yesterday.

So you're using me as a defense? Wtf?

VP-

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VP- there is no drama, just wondering what is going on... and there's no need to call me useless when I'm here answering questions allowing all of you to get a read on this slot if you must.

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OK. You posted a proddodge. I appreciate you wanting to review my case, but you still posted a proddodge while I'm being accused of generally flaking in this game. I'm calling you out for posting a proddodge when I don't remember you doing this yesterday.

So you're using me as a defense? Wtf?

I'm using you as an example of someone who was heavily active and has posted nothing of import most of today. While I've been singing the praises of Llamarble is scum a lot of today, even when people have jumped off the wagon due to mysterious townreads on him suddenly. If you'd like, I could point out that Quil's not posted a lot since the census results either.

Except I wasn't heavily active last phase either, and throwing my name or anyone else's to the forefront to defend yourself is suspect. I did post what I felt was important and that was Jason scum, yet while people ponder Jason/I as a scum team, I am not seeing any votes. I want Jason lynched. I am not too pleased with how Ghostlin is acting so I could get behind that lynch if it weren't for some of these people pushing it. I'm going to have full reads tomorrow after noon- hold me to that because it's obvious you guys need me to lay out what is going on in my head as I read.

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Okay I am not very good at explaining how my brain works but I will try my best to at least give you some indication of where I am at.

Scum:
Jason
CES
Xvart

On my radar:
Ghostlin
VP
Llamarble
Vi
Amrun

I am never really good at explaining how I get reads on people, which is probably why I'm so bad at this game but there are my thoughts.

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Mmkay so should Llam turn out to be town, Vi deserves death.

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Mmkay reasons why my lynch shouldn't even be considered today:

Scratch that! There's really only one main reason, my lynch won't help you with anything at all. When I flip town you'll have just as little information to go off of as you do now.

It's pretty obvious that Jason should be lynched, since he's scum and it gives us information. Llam COULD be lynched solely based on the information we'd get. I have no idea how you people are equating my laziness to scumminess, I've been busy and genuinely trying to get reads. Just because I don't post every single though I have down here doesn't mean I am scum, it's how I play and some information doesn't always need to be shared.

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Actually I takke back my previous statement, if we aren't going to lynch scum (Jason) then lynching me is fine.

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Okay let's get one thing straight. I didn't ask to be lynch nor do I think that I should. I hate when multiple people get run up to claim and it seems like this is where that is headed. People want Llam to claim and if he isn't lynched and we as a group can't get to scum, I'd sacrifice myself over having anyone else have to claim. I mean that may be hard for you to understand but there are slots here that I believe are potentially more useful than I am.

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Can someone tell me why we aren't lynching Jason?

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Actually right now I am more comfortable with a Glowball lynch than Llam.. at least he is trying to play the game. She is just sitting on sidelines screaming for a lynch of anyone... D1 and D2.

unvote
vote: Glowball

Actually I don't want ANYONE lynched. I want YOU lynched. If that quote of nothingness on this page is a "case"... no I won't be making one of those. If I actually sit down and go through all of your posts to make a case it will be when I have time. No one pressured me for my reads, in fact a wagon hasn't even ever been formed against me. I don't like to share all of my thoughts because frankly I can't always explain them. There's a tone to your posts, there are your actions towards other players and vice versa. It's something that I think takes a lot of time to explain and I prefer to let the chips fall before I go all in.

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Actually right now I am more comfortable with a Glowball lynch than Llam.. at least he is trying to play the game. She is just sitting on sidelines screaming for a lynch of anyone... D1 and D2.

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vote: Glowball

Actually I don't want ANYONE lynched. I want YOU lynched.

If that quote of nothingness on this page is a "case"... no I won't be making one of those. If I actually sit down and go through all of your posts to make a case it will be when I have time. No one pressured me for my reads, in fact a wagon hasn't even ever been formed against me.

I don't like to share all of my thoughts because frankly I can't always explain them

. There's a tone to your posts, there are your actions towards other players and vice versa.

It's something that I think takes a lot of time to explain and I prefer to let the chips fall before I go all in.

bold red: in other words, fence sit and wait for a wagon to form, and jump on.
bold blue: Again, just shouting for a lynch without any reasoning to anything. You did the same for Lew on D1.
bold green: then you need to try harder. If you really want me lynched, you sure as hell better do some explaining and if you are not going to do that, then you are not going to get me lynched.

I'm not getting you lynched today whether I form a case or not.

[glowball]

Saulres is town. This makes me happy.

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Apologies, I have been less involved/committed than I should be. Just Nov/Dec tends to be a difficult time for me and I didn't realize. I promise more insights after Thursday and that means like legit posting instead of minimal comments I have been making.

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Heh. I can't understand Vi even if she's not posting with a post restriction

glowball, why are you happy that I'm town? Last time we played together we were both town and the scum had a clean sweep.

I'm happy anytime I have a strong town read on someone. It makes scumhunting easier.

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Mmkay so should Llam turn out to be town, Vi deserves death.

I really don't see why you weren't vigged last night.

I'm just too darn precious and/or adorable. People love me

Also, don't give Vi credit for calling Llam on BS contradictions when I was saying that since early o'clock. Hate on me if you're gonna hate.

Llam would be the LAST straw in regards to Vi, there is more to it.

It's pretty obvious that Jason should be lynched, since he's scum and it gives us information.

What information is that exactly?

The kind of information that I don't divulge before flips and before the night phase.

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Mmkay so should Llam turn out to be town, Vi deserves death.

I really don't see why you weren't vigged last night. Also, don't give Vi credit for calling Llam on BS contradictions when I was saying that since early o'clock. Hate on me if you're gonna hate.

Maybe because we lynched the vig, derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp. What is the point of this comment?

Technically speaking, if we hadn't lynched lewarcher and he did target me he would have died because I have a dog, remember?

[glowball]

Forgot to do this

V/LA until Friday

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Mmkay as promised I am going to be more committed to this game now that Thanksgiving is over. I am all set to re read the last 42 pages and post before deadline in 3 days.

IN FACT:
Personal Deadline- Tomorrow by 11:30 PM PST

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OKay I am re reading the game and I have a few derpish questions, but humor me please...

Did CES ever address his fake governing and why he would do something like that day 1?

Jason, what is your current read on Llam?

Is it weird that I want to say there were no scum on the Day 1 lynch? The SK (prob DDD) is probably on there though. Which leaves Sotty, Amrun,CES, Jason, xvart, Llam. Llam is probtown. Oh look even after re reading I have the same suspects although one of them is innocent...

The Ghostlin wagon is stupid, just like the Llam wagon was and there seems to be some sort of voting block with Sotty, CES, and Amrun when I ISO'd the mod's vote counts. It's rubbing me the wrong way.

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Did CES ever address his fake governing and why he would do something like that day 1?

Post 603

The Ghostlin wagon is stupid, just like the Llam wagon was and there seems to be some sort of voting block with Sotty, CES, and Amrun when I ISO'd the mod's vote counts. It's rubbing me the wrong way.

Deadline is coming up. So either you need to argue why you're in favor of a no-lynch because you aren't putting forth any other option.

Thanks, and I am still reading! I am in favor of a Jason wagon, he's scum and needs to die.

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Jason lynch > Ghostlin lynch because a probscum lynch is better than a probtown lynch.

Read Jason's ISO. Hell, just read his first post of the game. He's scum.

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Jason lynch > Ghostlin lynch because a probscum lynch is better than a probtown lynch.

Read Jason's ISO. Hell, just read his first post of the game. He's scum.

you also contradict yourself here

Prob Scum

is scum

which is it?

Are you really trying to form something from me saying "probscum" over scum? I think you are scum Jason. I want you lynched. Can you answer my question please?

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Jason, what is your current read on Llam?

this? I think it is very clear my position on Llam already.

Obviously it isn't. Could you tell me what you think of Llam at this point in the game?

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"In post 969, jasonT1981 wrote:"
^ That was your most recent post about Llam? Over 100posts ago, yeah I needed an update, reads change.

Now you aren't voting him, why? Why would you settle for a Ghostlin lynch when you want Xvart and I looked at tomorrow and you also still think Llam is scum regardless of his claim.

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"In post 969, jasonT1981 wrote:"
^ That was your most recent post about Llam? Over 100posts ago, yeah I needed an update, reads change.

Now you aren't voting him, why? Why would you settle for a Ghostlin lynch when you want Xvart and I looked at tomorrow and you also still think Llam is scum regardless of his claim.

bloody hell.....

I can have more than one suspect, but only one vote.

Yes, but if I am a higher scum read why not push my lynch harder. Why not push Llam's lynch or even xvart's? It seems like you have stronger scum reads on us than Ghostlin but you are just settling for any lynch today and trying to set up lynches for tomorrow.

[glowball]

The LLam wagon crumbled, so therefor I am voting somenoe else I suspect as scum, given Llam is not a viable lynch today.

Your first post screams scum explaination for RVS. Which is funny because it's on xvart, one of your suspects. Given your scumminess this implicates him as well, which means you are probbussing for cred.

Now, you are voting Ghostlin because the Llam wagon crumbled? Not because he's your easiest chance of not gettiing lynched today, you can't tell me you haven't noticed the competing wagons.

[glowball]

the competing wagon is me???? LOL.

No, just because I vote Xvart in RVS, then suspect him later... does not implicate anything. You are pushing crap and tryign to distract from other things going on in this game. I am not tunnelling, unlike yourself.

Hmmm let's see:
It's close to deadline
You're scum
Ghostlin wagon sucks

So, yeah I'm tunneling on you because I'd rather lynch scum before deadline. I'm not to going to settle for any lynch which seems like at this point you would.